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Oh my: NOW inducts Letterman into its “Media Hall of Shame”

posted at 8:25 pm on June 11, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Credit where credit’s due.

Comedians in search of a laugh should really know better than to snicker about men having sex with teenage girls (or young women) less than half their age.

The sexualization of girls and women in the media is reaching new lows these days — it is exploitative and has a negative effect on how all women and girls are perceived and how they view themselves. Letterman also joked about what he called Palin’s “slutty flight attendant look” — yet another example of how the media love to focus on a woman politician’s appearance, especially as it relates to her sexual appeal to men. Someone of Letterman’s stature, who appears on what used to be known as “the Tiffany Network” (CBS), should be above wallowing in the juvenile, sexist mud that other comedians and broadcasters seem to prefer.

On that point, it’s important to note that when Chelsea Clinton was 13 years old she was the target of numerous insults based on her appearance. Rush Limbaugh even referred to her as the “White House dog.” NOW hopes that all the conservatives who are fired up about sexism in the media lately will join us in calling out sexism when it is directed at women who aren’t professed conservatives.

People on Twitter are grumbling about that last paragraph but (a) given how peeved the sisterhood will be that they’re defending Palin, surely you won’t begrudge NOW some sort of ass-covering knock on conservatives here, and (b) their point is, unfortunately, too often valid, as a scroll through righty blog comments about Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton (at least before 2008) will attest. A compromise, then: The right will join in calling out sexism directed at liberal women when the left stops treating conservative women as “inauthentic” or traitors to their gender because they happen to be pro-life. Deal?

Meanwhile, Michael Steele hints at a boycott of Letterman’s show. Really? Even an awful joke is still a joke. I think the PR beating he’s taking is enough.

Update (Ed): Since NOW has been good enough to put principle above politics, then I can do the same by agreeing that conservative pundits should leave menstruation out of their criticisms of Sonia Sotomayor.  If we complain about the belittling and sexualizing of conservative women in politics, then G. Gordon Liddy should stick to the substantive issues in the Sotomayor nomination.  I hadn’t heard about that one until I clicked over to NOW’s site.


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Good to hear. They were silent when the BS was being heaped on Hillary, and I know I certainly lost all interest in any of the formal women’s groups.

They probably got the message, big-time.

AnninCA on June 12, 2009 at 12:16 AM

Google “rape jokes.” Palin at the top of the first page. UK Yahoo News: “The former vice presidential candidate hit back after he called her “slutty” and appeared to suggest her 14-year-old child slept with a baseball star.”

When a grown man sleeps with a 14 Yo, that’s statutory rape, even in most southern states.

alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:18 AM

When a grown man sleeps with a 14 Yo, that’s statutory rape, even in most southern states.

alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:18 AM

I don’t know if you are making a jab at SouthernGal, but I’ve never thought of statutory rape as being more prevalent in the South.

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:19 AM

Nope, not stupid, just old and blind.

Knucklehead on June 12, 2009 at 12:15 AM

These days, that makes you Soylent Green. Knuckle sandwiches never tasted so good!

alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:20 AM

The world has taken a turn for the surreal when the NOW defends a conservative.

csdeven on June 11, 2009 at 8:32 PM

It’s beyond surreal.
It’s a sign of the Apocalypse.

soundingboard on June 12, 2009 at 12:21 AM

Yeah, I got to admit I don’t know a lot of observant Jewish trolls that remember to write “G-d.”

Might be a good act ;)

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:09 AM

Did it ever use G-d or God? I think I missed that.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 12:21 AM

Go run to your G-d.

SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:23 AM

I don’t know if you are making a jab at SouthernGal, but I’ve never thought of statutory rape as being more prevalent in the South.

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:19 AM

Until as recently as 2005, the age of consent in many southern states was 16, while you could marry at 14 with parental consent.

alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:26 AM

Google “rape jokes.” Palin at the top of the first page. UK Yahoo News: “The former vice presidential candidate hit back after he called her “slutty” and appeared to suggest her 14-year-old child slept with a baseball star.”

When a grown man sleeps with a 14 Yo, that’s statutory rape, even in most southern states.

alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:18 AM

The implied consent is, likewise, profoundly offensive. It was doubled-down the following night when the pervert “joked” about the same child being prostituted. “Sleeping with” somehow just doesn’t capture the disgusting nature of these attacks.

littleguy on June 12, 2009 at 12:26 AM

Whomever said that this sexist crap would go too far…….

Kudos. You were RIGHT!

It’s fascinating to see the creeps defending Letterman. Predictable, and shameful, eh?

AnninCA on June 12, 2009 at 12:28 AM

Now, I know I’m asking for a miracle, but when will they condemn the violence against women in the Muslim world?

MadisonConservative on June 11, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Re: My preceding post.

That would be the final sign of the Apocalypse.

End of days!

Game over man!

soundingboard on June 12, 2009 at 12:28 AM

Hey southern gal did you get upset when Muslims kill their wives or daughters because they looked the wrong way and brought shame to their family? This NOW gang sure is selective and cowardly when they can’t even attack this type of behavior even when it happens in the USA. The NOW gang is useless by their selective “outrages”.

garydt on June 12, 2009 at 12:29 AM

It’s beyond surreal.
It’s a sign of the Apocalypse.

They lost a lot of donations for failing to speak out during the primary regarding the sexist treatment of Hillary.

And there are more than a few congresswomen who sure hope that loyal Dems forget that they pretended nothing was happening.

AnninCA on June 12, 2009 at 12:30 AM

There are actually pedophile age of consent reform groups who are very heavily invested in the outcomes of legal amendments in Kerala, India, France, Canada, the UK and Georgia (US).

alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:30 AM

Blogless (better known as humorless), Loxodonta,
.
I was just illustrating the kind of humor that Letterman would say was only a joke.
.
If you saw the MSNBC interview of Jon Ziegler about this topic, you would know what I mean.
.
Do you profess the same degree of outrage for Letterman’s vile jokes?

FactsofLife on June 12, 2009 at 12:31 AM

alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:30 AM

Do yourself a favor and stop using Wikipedia as your source. The big dogs here will never take you seriously if you do.

Just advice from an old person. Wikipedia sucks.

Knucklehead on June 12, 2009 at 12:34 AM

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:23 AM

Can’t say. Have been told it’s the reincarnation of an anti-Semitic troll. Perhaps it’s part of the camo. If you trace its comments through the Holocaust Museum thread, it shows no signs of empathy for the location of the crime or any of the victims, is only making political trolling. Then, many posts and hours later, it pops up with a claim of being Jewish to hurl at another poster as a means of implying bigotry.

This one is going to require careful study. I suggest all but those in top form avoid it. So please, Upstater85, don’t forget to remind me as I’m prone to be forgetful of such good advice.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 12:34 AM

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 12:34 AM

;)

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:37 AM

It’s a sign of the Apocalypse.

soundingboard on June 12, 2009 at 12:21 AM

I’m waiting for people to start being quickened to heaven.

csdeven on June 12, 2009 at 12:41 AM

NOW hopes that all the conservatives who are fired up about sexism in the media lately will join us in calling out sexism when it is directed at women who aren’t professed conservatives.

Um… and your record for defending conservative women is just stellar right?

No, you waited until now and then used it as a means to attack a conservative. So maybe get a better track record and rebuild that credibility a little more before making these kinds of demands. You’ve made a first good step, but you’ve got a long what to go NOW.

Scrappy on June 11, 2009

at 8:53 PMExactly right. Dragging Palin and her family through the mud during the campaign was A-OK.

Like I said in another thread, I have to laugh at conservatives being so PC and feminist.

SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Of course you find it funny. It’s not a matter of principle to you; like NOW, it’s just something you reach for when you have nothing else.

ddrintn on June 12, 2009 at 12:44 AM

I started boycotting Letterman when he stopped being funny.

He’s been a cranky partisan zombie hatchetman for years.

NOW is mistaken that he was insulting young women or any women.

He was trying to destroy Palin using any ammo available.

Tossing off “wink”, “crack”, “knocked up” and “slutty“~ and whatever else might get a rise from his limp audience.

He just made a slight tactical error in not having noticed that Willow, the 14 year old daughter, was with Sarah at the ballgame, and not her [apparently] legal-to-slander 18 year old child.

NOW merely wants their buddy Dave to keep the Palin-destructive invective more effective, and not get caught with his WORLDWIDE PANTS down in such witless sex jokes.

profitsbeard on June 12, 2009 at 12:44 AM

He just made a slight tactical error in not having noticed that Willow, the 14 year old daughter, was with Sarah at the ballgame, and not her [apparently] legal-to-slander 18 year old child.

It was inappropriate, even had it been Bristol.

His sexism was unacceptable.

AnninCA on June 12, 2009 at 12:46 AM

Carlin was wrong if he said “rape is funny,” but he’s free to say that so long as I’m free to completely disagree (verbally).

Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Try listening to the bit, which I think is still on Youtube. It’s less about rape than about the idea that there are certain things you can’t joke about. His point is that it all depends on the context and the skill of the joke.

Both of which Letterman failed miserably here, of course.

Jim Treacher on June 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM

FactsofLife on June 12, 2009 at 12:31 AM

Do you profess the same degree of outrage for Letterman’s vile jokes?

Yes. Yes. And yes. I can go on, if you want.

If you saw the MSNBC interview of Jon Ziegler about this topic, you would know what I mean.

I did not see that clip as I don’t have a TV, don’t have access to one, and don’t provide MSNBC with any web traffic.

I do have a sense of humor, but I am old fashioned. So, I find no humor in jokes about rape, period, full stop. I find jokes about raping women more offensive, and raping children even more offensive and raping girls the most offensive. I didn’t like the racial aspect of your “joke” either.

Perhaps your intent was simply an eye for an eye by making a joke about Obama’s children. The thing is, I will not go there when it comes to murder, rape, terrorism, etc., and find such actions and jokes about them, regardless of intent, to be always unfunny and morally wrong. And that’s regardless of the political affiliation or race of the victims or perpetrators.

However, as I am an odd old man who sometimes misunderstands things, perhaps I have misunderstood your post at 11:27 PM. Or, perhaps I am just a grumpy old humorless man at this point in the evening.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 12:57 AM

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 12:57 AM

Na, we didn’t misunderstand. The idjit made a nasty, sicko comment. I don’t care what reason it gives for making that comment, it ain’t normal. Who the hell says something like that? No decent person I know.

bloggless on June 12, 2009 at 1:00 AM

bloggless on June 12, 2009 at 1:00 AM

Thanks. I’m waiting for a response before I post anything else.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 1:02 AM

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:37 AM

You really are a good young man. With a few exceptions that I promise not to mention to your parents.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM

Update:
Right-wink nut murders Holocaust Museum guard – 508 comments
Letterman – 2,628 comments

Priorities.

benny shakar on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

It was inappropriate, even had it been Bristol.

His sexism was unacceptable.

AnninCA on June 12, 2009 at 12:46 AM

I know we have many disagreements, and at times I cannot figure you out at all. But thank you very much for being consistent on this issue.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

Try listening to the bit, which I think is still on Youtube. It’s less about rape than about the idea that there are certain things you can’t joke about. His point is that it all depends on the context and the skill of the joke.

Both of which Letterman failed miserably here, of course.

Jim Treacher on June 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM


This?

Eh, I don’t know. If I was a rape victim, I don’t know if I’d like to sit through him describe a “good” rape joke.

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 1:07 AM

Priorities.

benny shakar on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

You haven’t read through this have you…? Go take a look at what your pall SouthernGal is writing. She was talking about the “ovens” earlier.

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 1:09 AM

You really are a good young man. With a few exceptions that I promise not to mention to your parents.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM

Heh…

Thanks.

We all have our shortcomings, so yeah, maybe I should clean up my act more ;)

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM

Update:
Right-wink nut murders Holocaust Museum guard – 508 comments
Letterman – 2,628 comments

Priorities.

benny shakar on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

Trolls on the Letterman threads. But not a single post from you about the murder at the Holocaust Museum.

The lessons of the Holocaust are simple to understand,
however hard they are to live.

Never blame others for your troubles.

A society is as large as the space it makes for the stranger.

Cherish life.

Fight for the rights of others.

– Jonathan Sacks, Britain’s Chief Rabbi, 2005

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 1:15 AM

I ENJOY political humor. I like Jon Stewart. I never miss an Ann Coulter column. Both, opposite, make me laugh. They can be exceptionally witty, which I appreciate.

Even when I disagree.

But…..calling a woman slutty?

There’s nothing clever about that. It’s just trash-talk.

Letterman angered me a lot in the primaries over his treatment of Hillary. He lived up to my very low expectation with this episode.

Driven off of TV? Heck no. That kicks him into being a martyr.

I’d much prefer to watch him shrivel up.

I can’t wait to see some of the stronger-minded female guests gracefully keep nailing him over and over and over on this.

AnninCA on June 12, 2009 at 1:19 AM

And, yes, all puns were intended. :)

AnninCA on June 12, 2009 at 1:20 AM

“I can do the same by agreeing that conservative pundits should leave menstruation out of their criticisms of Sonia Sotomayor.”

Can we still do poop jokes? Because we’ve got a son in third grade, so I’ve got a lot of them.

Kevin M on June 12, 2009 at 1:44 AM

Can we still do poop jokes? Because we’ve got a son in third grade, so I’ve got a lot of them.

Kevin M on June 12, 2009 at 1:44 AM

I’d say poop jokes are in a totally different category.

I can’t imagine telling a third grader a menstruation joke.

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 1:48 AM

I was listening to an afternoon radio talk show, and their daily poll question was “Should David Letterman step down from his late night talk show?”.

My answer to that is “No.” We have something called freedom of speech in this country. I love Palin more than probably any other potential presidential conservative candidate out there. However, Letterman was expressing his views, and can’t be denied that.

He pulled an Imus. And his viewership ratings will probably irreparably suffer now, but that is at his own hand. I didn’t agree with what Imus said way back when, but he expressed his stupid opinion, and his career was changed from then on because of his rants. It was his doing. I didn’t believe at the time that Imus should have been pulled off the air for expressing his first amendment priviledges either.

Now, the American audiences will choose whether they want to tune in to Letterman because they are free to make their own decisions on what they watch. Letterman’s ratings will probably fall lower than Couric’s, but that will remain to be seen.

It is more likely than not that he just jinxed what’s left of his career. Poor move on his part.

ErinF on June 12, 2009 at 1:53 AM

Okay wait…you said…

Deal?
With leftists?

Good luck.

Bloo on June 12, 2009 at 12:11 AM

You’re more likely to have an engaging conversation of huffpo than to actually make a deal.

ConservadorRebelde on June 12, 2009 at 2:01 AM

Can we still do poop jokes? Because we’ve got a son in third grade, so I’ve got a lot of them.

Kevin M on June 12, 2009 at 1:44 AM

I’d say poop jokes are in a totally different category.

Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 1:48 AM

OK, but I draw the line at flatulence jokes. They stink.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 2:07 AM

Right-wink nut murders Holocaust Museum guard – 508 comments
Letterman – 2,628 comments

Priorities.

benny shakar on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

Uh, he wasn’t right-wink, he was left wink.

atheling on June 12, 2009 at 2:08 AM

This is why I’ve always loved Jay Leno more than Letterman.

However that being said, I hate hate hate hate hate hate to
say this. Letterman still has a right to free speech and to
make fun of whom ever he wants.

I mean COME ON REPUBLICANS I LOVE SARAH PALIN TOO! But she
does look just like a Porn Star I’ve seen somewhere before.
Whoooooppss! Too much info? Oh well.

We should be more upset about the double standards. However
when Michael Savage was nearly banned by England for his
free speech, it would be hypocritical of me to say “Lynch
Letterman!”

I mean yes in bad taste, I would have said, “Number 2 she
goes to the mall to update her ‘Hot Librarian Teacher’ look
outfit”

rednebulastudios32 on June 12, 2009 at 2:13 AM

Letterman has been a tool for years now. It’s too bad really. His stuff while at NBC was classic. Unfortunately, he won’t be canned. He’s too powerful at CBS. They’ve got little else besides him. Couric is a wreck. She’ll go before Dave will.

I wouldn’t mind both of them being removed.

PunditGuy on June 12, 2009 at 2:14 AM

Right-wink nut murders Holocaust Museum guard – 508 comments
Letterman – 2,628 comments

Priorities.

Shakaaaaarrrrr, get your facts straight. The Holocaust Museum shooter was anti-Bush, anti-America, anti-right-wing-talk-show. I’d bet a year’s salary he votes dimrat down the ballot.

B.O. the president is anti-Israel and anti-Jewish, as are most left wingers. B.O.’s pastor thinks saying “them Jews” is perfectly acceptable while claiming to be a man of God.

You are such an idiot.

ErinF on June 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM

To prove no hard feelings and that I like Sarah Palin too I made this video before the election. Which nobody saw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T4QTb7rt6M

Sarah Palin Music Video also a John McCain One.

rednebulastudios32 on June 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM

I know we have many disagreements, and at times I cannot figure you out at all. But thank you very much for being consistent on this issue.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

The reason you can’t figure her [AnninCA] out is because she is a CONCERN TROLL. The opinions she expresses here are TOTALLY artificial. She is trying to suck us in so as to influence us.

Don’t believe me? Look thru the archives over on No Quarter. She drove everyone over there crazy. No Quarter is a site for Hillary and is anti-Obama. They wer pro McCain. So if she drove everyone crazy over there then you can infer she was not for Hillary OR Sarah OR McCain.

Yet on this board she claims to have voted for McCain.

THAT IS WHY YOU CAN’T Figure her out. She is gaming you.

Geochelone on June 12, 2009 at 2:18 AM

I see the words, the statement, and it’s from…NOW?

Is this for real, or is it time for me to switch allergy meds?

This is more surreal than Dali…

I mean have we finally won? Hammering the left on it’s double standard when it comes to women?

Is it possible they’ve finally seen the light or is this just an empty gesture that an ever dwindling NOW is throwing out to try and recover the lost membership, and shrinking national relavance they’ve suffered from being exposed as nothing more than a front group for the Democratic Party?

Time will tell…the lefties aren’t done with Sarah Palin, not by a sight. I’ll believe it’s for real if they continue to defend her from smears but also defend the rights of Sarah Palin and women like her to have beliefs that may run counter to their’s and accept those women as equals in a true feminist movement.

Even then, they’ll never gain any lasting credibility until the confront the treatment of women under Sharia. That’s the next hurdle.

Still, if they mean it, this is at least a start in the right direction.

SuperCool on June 12, 2009 at 2:20 AM

Shakaaaaarrrrr, get your facts straight. The Holocaust Museum shooter was anti-Bush, anti-America, anti-right-wing-talk-show. I’d bet a year’s salary he votes dimrat down the ballot.

B.O. the president is anti-Israel and anti-Jewish, as are most left wingers. B.O.’s pastor thinks saying “them Jews” is perfectly acceptable while claiming to be a man of God.

You are such an idiot.

ErinF on June 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM

Benny’s just a troll. Pay it no mind.

SuperCool on June 12, 2009 at 2:22 AM

Geochelone on June 12, 2009 at 2:18 AM

Thanks. I will explore those data. People can be very complicated puzzles.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 2:33 AM

Is it really true that Rush called Chelsea the “White House Dog?” I don’t listen to Rush often, but when I do I never hear the things that some people claim to hear him say. Going after a teenage girl doesn’t sound like something Rush would do.

George Bruce on June 12, 2009 at 2:36 AM

Thanks. I will explore those data. People can be very complicated puzzles.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 2:33 AM

I could be wrong but I distinctly remember her handle, and even her posting style (one sentence per line with a double return) for the simple reason that her opinions were all over the map. No Quarter was a PUMA site and I was pro PUMA (for Sarah and McCain) I seem to recall that AnninCA was called a troll over there too and many were bothered by her. At times she appears candid and honest and then a new personality seems to emerge with a stream of thought that is self contradictory. She often admits it; that her points are too subtle for most to understand them. The liberal mind is hard to fathom.

Geochelone on June 12, 2009 at 2:43 AM

Right-wink nut murders Holocaust Museum guard – 508 comments
Letterman – 2,628 comments

Priorities.

benny shakar on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

And you were all over the thread condemning the terrorist Muslim that shot two Home Town Recruiters weren’t you.

Will you please just go someplace like HuffPo or DU where what you say makes sense to someone?

hawkdriver on June 12, 2009 at 2:45 AM

Is it really true that Rush called Chelsea the “White House Dog?”

No. Al Franken lied about the incident.

Read this

http://lyingliar.com/?p=17

Geochelone on June 12, 2009 at 2:50 AM

Geochelone on June 12, 2009 at 2:43 AM

I’ve gone to the site and have seen the name and the word patterns are the same. But it will take some time to explore.

I don’t recall reading posts from you. Whenever you wish, please feel free to help me with my cluelessness. Are you available full time?

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 2:50 AM

Letterman will be fine. He’s a liberal. Or at least he plays one on tv.

That’s the difference between him and Imus.
If Imus was a liberal he’d still be at WFAN.

It’s a double standard and it’s not changing any time soon.
It’s really something to me to see women defending him, tho.
We all know that if somethign was said like this to a liberal woman’s daughter, the sh*t would hit immediately.
But how women in this country can stand back and make light of it and defend it, simply because they have to defend a Liberal is really sad when you think about it.

Ideology trumphs all else now. What side yo come down on is based on whether you voted for Obama or McCain.
What a sad state.

B Man on June 12, 2009 at 4:15 AM

I keep hoping NOW will remember that they are a group of women, and fight to defend women and girls who are really in peril.
.
Won’t happen but I keep hoping.

darktood on June 12, 2009 at 4:24 AM

Until as recently as 2005, the age of consent in many southern states was 16, while you could marry at 14 with parental consent.

alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:26 AM

You are an idiot. Do you just make stuff up? Or does someone feed you this crap?

You’re from Massachusetts aren’t you?

Squiggy on June 12, 2009 at 5:26 AM

Rush Limbaugh even referred to her as the “White House dog.”

And he could see Russia from his house, too.

Amazing how there’s absolutely no consequence for lying out your ass anymore.

Squiggy on June 12, 2009 at 5:28 AM

Seems that Letterman will have to clean up his liberal act for a couple of days.

For the time being liberals will confine their humor to the following categories until the outrage over their penchant RAPE and Protestation jokes blows over.

1. Special Olympics jokes
you know retards are funny to libs, ask Barry.
2. Lipstick on Pig Jokes
you know women are pigs, thats funny to libs, ask Barry.
3. Slumdog jokes
you know racism is funny, ask the lib press core
4. Christian mockery jokes
you freedom of religion is a big joke to libs
5. Jokes about Kidneys failing
you know death is hilarious, ask Wanda Sykes
6. Palin and incest Jokes with Todd have sex with Piper
you know, ask SNL

Geochelone on June 12, 2009 at 6:47 AM

I gave up on NOW years ago when they went on the offensive against Millicent Fenwick. NOW supported Lautenberg and did nothing to criticize him when he attacked Fenwick because of her age. Lautenberg, one of the most liberal members of the Senate, is now 85 years old – 13 years older than Fenwick was when he made her age an issue. Talk about hypocrisy.

Logic on June 12, 2009 at 6:52 AM

In older times a Southern Gentleman would have walked(strode) up to lettermen and berated him in public with eloquence.
Maybe we could get Fred to show us how this would be done today.

To letterman’s face.
“You Sir are a dispicable disgrace to yourself,your family,and a blot on the entire industry,have you no shame Sir? Cowards attack women and childred,you Sir are a Craven Coward hiding behind a prompter” etc.

Col.John Wm. Reed on June 12, 2009 at 7:00 AM

Rush Limbaugh even referred to her as the “White House dog.”

I don’t remember Rush doing anything like that. I do remember there was something about Chelsie in Rush’s TV show one time,,, but it wasn’t so blatant as that.

JellyToast on June 12, 2009 at 7:11 AM

Since NOW has been good enough to put principle above politics, then I can do the same by agreeing that conservative pundits should leave menstruation out of their criticisms of Sonia Sotomayor

I don’t know about that one, Ed, though I’m not a conservative pundit but just a HA commenter (which is the next best thing). Taking one look at Ms. Sotomayor in action and it’s clear to me, as a woman who works with a bunch of 50+ women and closing in on that demographic myself, that she’s got that post menopausal thing going on, and it ain’t pretty.

CarolynM on June 12, 2009 at 7:13 AM

Half their age? Bristol and Willow are about a tenth of Letterman’s age. Or maybe that’s just how he looks

drjohn on June 12, 2009 at 7:15 AM

speaking of unfunny late night “comics,” I watched Conan on the Tonight Show for the first time last night. He was awful. He bombed. NOt a single funny line, but lots of dopey mugging for the camera.

NOt likely I’ll waste any more shuteye on that bore.

james23 on June 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM

That NOW had to come out against Letterman’s comments (they hardly qualify as jokes) shows how obvious the double standard has gotten.

I was impressed that NOW had to go back over 15 years to find a counter-example from a major figure on the right to compare with Letterman. They also failed to note how the Chelsea rule expired as soon as a Republican president with teenage daughters was in the WH.

wordsson on June 12, 2009 at 7:20 AM

What’s funny is that if the double standard “We don’t poke fun at Messiah because there’s nothing to poke fun at” or “He’s too important – serious – etc” were not in effect, I think there would be less outrage here. I hope advertisers are bailing out of his show by the truck load. And with Perky Couric’s ratings in the toilet, what a week.

Marcus on June 12, 2009 at 7:40 AM

Liddy starts out the segment by accusing Judge Sotomayor with making racist comments and criticizing her membership in the group National Council of La Raza, which he says means “the race” in “illegal alien”. (By the way: the organization says a closer translation of La Raza would be “the people” or “the Hispanic people of the New World.”)

Nice rationalizing and spin, La Raza! Every translator I tried says La Raza = ‘the race’.

rockbend on June 12, 2009 at 7:59 AM

Not to be alarmist, but when I looked out my window just now, I think I saw four pretty ugly guys on horse ride by. Just an FYI.

Actually, NOW deserves kudos for saying this.

Physics Geek on June 12, 2009 at 8:13 AM

In the past five years Letterman has become less funny and more political and mean-spirited. It’s obvious that his best years are behind him.

He is like a former great pitcher whose fast ball has dropped from 95 MPH to 75 and didn’t know when to hang it up. He is using whatever junk he can come up with just to hang on.

And, it looks like Conan O’Brien is gonna eat him alive.

bw222 on June 12, 2009 at 8:14 AM

Truly, the apocalypse is nigh.

Jaibones on June 12, 2009 at 8:15 AM

Governor Palin was just on NBC with Matt Lauer. She did very well in defending her children and standing up for women everywhere who are sick of the crap.

shomegirl on June 12, 2009 at 8:24 AM

ErinF on June 12, 2009 at 1:53 AM:

I was listening to an afternoon radio talk show, and their daily poll question was “Should David Letterman step down from his late night talk show?” My answer to that is “No.” We have something called freedom of speech in this country. I love Palin more than probably any other potential presidential conservative candidate out there. However, Letterman was expressing his views, and can’t be denied that.

Erin, we do have freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc., in this country. What that means, though, is that the government is not empowered to inflict consequences on speech. It does not mean, nor was it intended by the Founders to mean, that speech should be without consequence. Letterman does indeed have every right to say whatever he wants, but his ability to disseminate his views is dependent upon employment by a private corporation (CBS) which contracts with other private corporations to fund its activities (advertisers), which in turn do so to try to engender the goodwill of millions of private individuals (viewers). Just as Letterman has every right to say what he wants, the viewers have every right to express their intention to terminate their voluntary, private business relationship with Letterman’s employer and advertisers if he remains employed by CBS. Note how the government remains uninvolved in any part of these transactions, and thus how the right to free speech is not implicated. At the point that CBS would (hypothetically) drop him, Letterman would still be perfectly free to drag his soapbox out to Central Park and speak on to his heart’s content, unimpeded until he inevitably violated some obscenity or indecency law. The right that Letterman does not possess is the right to CBS’s microphone and cameras, or to use of their broadcast license — that is a privilege afforded him by his business relationship with CBS, which CBS has the right to terminate subject to any extant contracts, and input on which CBS’s customers have the right to provide. In short, it is a common fallacy to equate private action to rid the airwaves of an offensive presence with censorship, when in fact not only is it not implicated by the First Amendment, it is an activity protected by the First Amendment, and a necessary cultural corrective without which the freedom enshrined by the First Amendment would become license.

loneloc on June 12, 2009 at 8:25 AM

ALLAH! Michelle is going to mad at YOU! Did you REALLY equate the ramblings of people like me about liberals with what people like David Letterman say about conservative woman on a national network?! Have you been watching O’Reilly again?

Redglen on June 12, 2009 at 8:28 AM

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FactsofLife on June 12, 2009 at 12:31 AM
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Do you profess the same degree of outrage for Letterman’s vile jokes?
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Yes. Yes. And yes. I can go on, if you want.
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If you saw the MSNBC interview of Jon Ziegler about this topic, you would know what I mean.
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I did not see that clip as I don’t have a TV, don’t have access to one, and don’t provide MSNBC with any web traffic.
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I do have a sense of humor, but I am old fashioned. So, I find no humor in jokes about rape, period, full stop. I find jokes about raping women more offensive, and raping children even more offensive and raping girls the most offensive. I didn’t like the racial aspect of your “joke” either.
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Perhaps your intent was simply an eye for an eye by making a joke about Obama’s children. The thing is, I will not go there when it comes to murder, rape, terrorism, etc., and find such actions and jokes about them, regardless of intent, to be always unfunny and morally wrong. And that’s regardless of the political affiliation or race of the victims or perpetrators.
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However, as I am an odd old man who sometimes misunderstands things, perhaps I have misunderstood your post at 11:27 PM. Or, perhaps I am just a grumpy old humorless man at this point in the evening.
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Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 12:57 AM

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I never intended the “joke” that I posted as a real joke.
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I didn’t see the Jon Ziegler interview on television either. The video is posted right here in Hotair under the title “Video: Ziegler gets his mike cut off by MS-NBC”
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The thrust of what the MSNBC tool was saying was that anything is ok as a joke and my point was that if they saw my “joke”, they would surely have gone ballistic.
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I in no way intended this as a true “joke” but as a jab at the hypocrisy of the Liberal media that allows anything to pass against Conservatives.
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The truth is that their descent into this ugly slander is indicative of their fear of Palin and this perhaps the one good thing that comes out of this.

FactsofLife on June 12, 2009 at 8:30 AM

I never thought I’d say “Well done” to NOW but they deserve it.

Well done NOW.

Having said that, NOW, wake up and realize that “defending” a woman’s right to choose (in the way that you do) does not empower women but men. And it does so to empower men to disrespect women.

Respect a women by taking the time to get to know her. Then prepare both of yourselves for a lifetime committment and realize what’s expected of yourself during that relationship. Then get married.

shick on June 12, 2009 at 8:39 AM

speaking of unfunny late night “comics,” I watched Conan on the Tonight Show for the first time last night. He was awful. He bombed. NOt a single funny line, but lots of dopey mugging for the camera.

NOt likely I’ll waste any more shuteye on that bore.

james23 on June 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM

Consider yourself lucky, James. You only wasted a few minutes of your life. The only good thing about the Tonight Show these days is that it will cure relentless insomnia.
I cannot understand why NBC thought that this was a good move. This is another unfunny person. As the days go by O’Brien will find a way to get himself into the spotlight ala Palin jokes. I don’t think he can help himself. The “Bush is stupid meme” turned me off ages ago. Same with Leno. I would love to see Red Eye bumped down to a reasonable hour. They are mildly amusing and I do get to smile once in a while.

BetseyRoss on June 12, 2009 at 8:58 AM

Hey, C4P has the video up of the Guv on the Today Show.

Wow, she is rising up to the challenge.

She looks good and puts in a great interview, not the lighter stuff.

I can’t wait for Allah’s “It’s on: Pitbull puts on lipstick and joins primary. Mitt pees pants.”

Sapwolf on June 12, 2009 at 9:05 AM

How old is Dave? We should have a mandatory retirement age for late night comics…50 oughta do it.

angryed on June 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM

G. Gordon Liddy is hardly the spokesperson for any group other than corrupt government officials, so obsessed with power that they abuse their authority, who’ve been caught and successfully prosecuted.

No surprise to find Liddy’s misogyny.

As per Chelsea Clinton being referred to as a dog while a kid, that was ugly. I’m glad I didn’t used to listen to Rush back when. I doubt Rush would defend his bad humor expressed in his younger years. It would behoove him as a matured adult now to apologize for digging on Chelsea’s bad looks during her puberty, particularly considering his own physical appearance given his present age and related conditions.

Letterman remains a dirty OLD man, unable to accept personal responsibility as he demands his media “right” to remain forever a juvenile delinquent.

Letterman deserves as strict a reprimand from his colleagues, advertisers, and viewers as the worst media offender on air has EVER received. Demanding a retraction and absolute apology is only ONE condition. Requiring his prostrate humility is necessary, as Letterman exhibits cruelty to children and to Women that most can not survive without feeling raped in public, perhaps insecure even at home, afraid to go to school, afraid of peers because of Letterman’s deviant misogyny. Letterman should be forced to endure the very level of degradation and public humiliation that he shoves onto innocent people. Only then will juveniles who take their lead from Letterman’s ilk realize that sexually abusing children, women, PEOPLE, is NOT acceptable even in popular American culture.

maverick muse on June 12, 2009 at 9:12 AM

Wonder when Letterman will start sex jokes directed at Obama’s children. That would definitely be “over the line” comedy.

Not holding my breath.

Oh, I’m not suggesting he start. That would be wrong too. I’m just pointing out the inconsistency.

shick on June 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM

The Conan Show started out without much to brag on ratings. Since Letterman’s overt sexual abuse of Women and Children, Conan’s ratings are up significantly.

Jay Leno, looking forward to revisiting your Headlines and Jay Walking after your vacation and Prime Time schedule.

maverick muse on June 12, 2009 at 9:18 AM

How old is Dave? We should have a mandatory retirement age for late night comics…50 oughta do it.

angryed on June 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM

50? You must be a youngin like myself, 39. 50 doesn’t seem so far away now.

Don’t be so quick to write off your elders.

shick on June 12, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Right-wink nut murders Holocaust Museum guard – 508 comments
Letterman – 2,628 comments

Priorities.

benny shakar on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

Uh, he wasn’t right-wink, he was left wink.

atheling on June 12, 2009 at 2:08 AM

LOL!! Thanks atheling, I needed the laugh this morning!

4shoes on June 12, 2009 at 9:20 AM

How old is Dave? We should have a mandatory retirement age for late night comics…50 oughta do it.

angryed on June 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM

Johnny Carson knew how to exit with dignity.
Jay Leno exhibited grace in being rescheduled to an earlier prime time network schedule.

Letterman remains a bitter old man, clinging with every ploy in his arsenal, hanging on by his nails, using sex abuse of women and children to prove his loyalty to Obama’s media machine to keep him “relevant” to Obama supporters as their hatchet man.

Good for NOW to rebuke Letterman. Note well how many days they waited to poll the nation’s response, whether they SHOULD in order to manipulate their own power structure to appear as moderators. Note well the TIMING of NOW’s involvement to protect women in general, coinciding with Sotomayor’s nomination, to rally support for Sotomayor by usurping the momentum from outrage over Palin’s daughter being sexually abused on national television.

maverick muse on June 12, 2009 at 9:27 AM

Can’t say. Have been told it’s the reincarnation of an anti-Semitic troll.

Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 12:34 AM

You were told she was *not* Nice 342

And yes, she is a troll.

Blake on June 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Born April 12, 1947
Letterman is a 62 year old dirty old man.

maverick muse on June 12, 2009 at 9:30 AM

kudos for NOW. Let’s hope that trend even more towards supporting the rights of ALL women, regardless of political bent, in the future.

hawksruleva on June 12, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Right-wink nut murders Holocaust Museum guard – 508 comments
Letterman – 2,628 comments

Priorities.

benny shakar on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

That’s right. Controversy generates more hits. There was no controversy over the murder of the guard. Everyone condemns it. The gunman was immediately shot and will probably die without standing trial.

No one tolerates antisemitism except the left. You freaks are rife with it.

Blake on June 12, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Letterman’s wife better watch him around their little boy.
Hey Dave, is THAT funny???!!

Letterman’s wife is very popular when the fleet is in town.
Hey Dave, you can use that one on TV tonight, no charge!

Dave Letterman has fostered an Oedipus Complex his entire life. Of course it was encouraged by Dave’s Mother.

Hey Dave, another knee slapper you can use tonight!

These will sound great with your pinhead audience cheers and the laugh track.

Jeff from WI on June 12, 2009 at 9:37 AM

except they got it wrong about Rush… he never did it…

LIMBAUGH:David Hinckley of–of the New York Daily News wrote this, and what he has–he’s got–it’s very strange. He says, In: A cute kid in the White House. Out: Cute dog in the White House.’ Could–could we see the cute kid? Let’s take a look at–see who is the cute kid in the White House. (A picture is shown of Millie the dog)

LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) No, no, no. That’s not the kid.

(Picture shown of Chelsea Clinton)

LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) That’s–that’s the kid. We’re trying to…

max1 on June 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM

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