Oh my: NOW inducts Letterman into its “Media Hall of Shame”
posted at 8:25 pm on June 11, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Comedians in search of a laugh should really know better than to snicker about men having sex with teenage girls (or young women) less than half their age.
The sexualization of girls and women in the media is reaching new lows these days — it is exploitative and has a negative effect on how all women and girls are perceived and how they view themselves. Letterman also joked about what he called Palin’s “slutty flight attendant look” — yet another example of how the media love to focus on a woman politician’s appearance, especially as it relates to her sexual appeal to men. Someone of Letterman’s stature, who appears on what used to be known as “the Tiffany Network” (CBS), should be above wallowing in the juvenile, sexist mud that other comedians and broadcasters seem to prefer.
On that point, it’s important to note that when Chelsea Clinton was 13 years old she was the target of numerous insults based on her appearance. Rush Limbaugh even referred to her as the “White House dog.” NOW hopes that all the conservatives who are fired up about sexism in the media lately will join us in calling out sexism when it is directed at women who aren’t professed conservatives.
People on Twitter are grumbling about that last paragraph but (a) given how peeved the sisterhood will be that they’re defending Palin, surely you won’t begrudge NOW some sort of ass-covering knock on conservatives here, and (b) their point is, unfortunately, too often valid, as a scroll through righty blog comments about Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton (at least before 2008) will attest. A compromise, then: The right will join in calling out sexism directed at liberal women when the left stops treating conservative women as “inauthentic” or traitors to their gender because they happen to be pro-life. Deal?
Meanwhile, Michael Steele hints at a boycott of Letterman’s show. Really? Even an awful joke is still a joke. I think the PR beating he’s taking is enough.
Update (Ed): Since NOW has been good enough to put principle above politics, then I can do the same by agreeing that conservative pundits should leave menstruation out of their criticisms of Sonia Sotomayor. If we complain about the belittling and sexualizing of conservative women in politics, then G. Gordon Liddy should stick to the substantive issues in the Sotomayor nomination. I hadn’t heard about that one until I clicked over to NOW’s site.
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More nonsense. Still not a cogent point.
Thanks for making my argument for me.
massrighty on June 11, 2009 at 10:27 PM
George Carlin said:
“Rape can be funny.”
All the whiny limp-wristed men at Hot Air whining over Letterman’s joke are the same red-blooded un-PC men who loved George Carlin’s black comedy.
As I said before, it’s a joke, lighten up.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 10:27 PM
I figured you knew. I just added it in case others didn’t.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Well said and Amen!
Now, someone needs to take Southern Cow to the glue factory.
atheling on June 11, 2009 at 10:31 PM
So you agree with George Carlin? You think rape can be funny?
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 10:31 PM
She thinks abortion is even funnier.
atheling on June 11, 2009 at 10:32 PM
I didn’t want Don Imus fired and I don’t want Letterman fired. If people don’t like the type of humor or commentary presented on a program they should change the channel.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Is this all the moral equivalence crowed has to justify their
ignorance and bigotry.
Some ugly jokes.
How does this compare to liberals wishing violence and sexual assault on someone.
How does this compare to the 24/7 cycle of calling a successful woman who actually has a record of accomplishment
(unlike Obama) a stupid whore and a slut.
How does this compare to the constant barrages of false lawsuits and false allegations that she really is not the mother of her own child by some of the leading voices in the liberal community.
This is the face of liberals in this country and how they spew their hatred of people whose biggest crime is having a different political opinion:
This is a blog post(not comment) from one of the top liberal websites(daily Kos):
Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother [Photos+Video]
by ArcXIX
Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:12:31 PM PDT
Stay classy liberals
Here is Alan Comes telling a woman how to handle her pregnancy because he is such an authority being a …..Doctor…no he’s not a Doctor.
He has actually had a baby.
No,not possible,does not posses the equipment.
Ahhhh yes, because he is a liberal talking head who apparently knows everything:
You Stay Classy, Alan Colmes
Posted by Kim Priestap
Published: August 31, 2008 – 11:50 AM
(via Wizbang)
***’Bumped***
So we have a man who has no problem shoving a metal spike in the head of a baby in partial birth abortions condemning a woman for not acting the way he wants her to when her water breaks.
Thanks for your expert opinion jacka$$.
Some of the super intelligent liberals and their sharp,insightful commentary regarding Palin:
Margaret Cho on Sarah Palin… Literally
How progressive!!!!!
Sandra Bernhard: Palin Would Be Gang-Raped By Blacks in Manhattan
Here’s some of what she says in the promo:
Yes, liberalism in action.
Salon,a leading liberal site/magazine shows some more of that liberal intellect:
Great moments in media: Salon’s dominatrix/bestiality photoshop of Palin
Yea,it’s a good thing liberals are sticking to the issues.
There is just all kinds of proof that Palin dressed up as a dominatrix wanting to have sex with animals.
Of course there is so many more examples of the hatred and bigotry displayed by the liberals who claim such a moral and intellectual high ground,this is just a few more:
Crush the Obamedia narrative: Look who’s “gripped by insane rage”
By Michelle Malkin • October 12, 2008 11:50 AM
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-obamedia-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/?print=1
Videos and art depicting Palin being beaten.
Bumper stickers calling for her abortion.
entertainers calling for her gang rape.
Over and over and over the examples all across the liberal spectrum from politicians to entertainers to liberal pundits
smearing,lying,and calling for brutal beatings and rape of someone they disagree with politically.
It’s a good thing you liberals could dig up those one-liners,it really justifies your ignorance and hate.
Baxter Greene on June 11, 2009 at 10:32 PM
I suppose you go to the Vagina Monologues for a laugh?
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Carlin was making a larger point about comedy; you cherry picked some words from it.
Again, it was a reprehensible, vile attack on someone’s daughter. Wrong. Offensive. Your defenses don’t make it any less so.
massrighty on June 11, 2009 at 10:33 PM
You go to the VaginaMonologues to get a laugh?
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Is this all the moral equivalence crowed has to justify their
ignorance and bigotry.
Some ugly jokes.
How does this compare to liberals wishing violence and sexual assault on someone.
How does this compare to the 24/7 cycle of calling a successful woman who actually has a record of accomplishment
(unlike Obama) a stupid whore and a slut.
How does this compare to the constant barrages of false lawsuits and false allegations that she really is not the mother of her own child by some of the leading voices in the liberal community.
This is the face of liberals in this country and how they spew their hatred of people whose biggest crime is having a different political opinion:
This is a blog post(not comment) from one of the top liberal websites(daily Kos):
Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother [Photos+Video]
by ArcXIX
Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:12:31 PM PDT
Stay classy liberals
Here is Alan Comes telling a woman how to handle her pregnancy because he is such an authority being a …..Doctor…no he’s not a Doctor.
He has actually had a baby.
No,not possible,does not posses the equipment.
Ahhhh yes, because he is a liberal talking head who apparently knows everything:
You Stay Classy, Alan Colmes
Posted by Kim Priestap
Published: August 31, 2008 – 11:50 AM
(via Wizbang)
***’Bumped***
So we have a man who has no problem shoving a metal spike in the head of a baby in partial birth abortions condemning a woman for not acting the way he wants her to when her water breaks.
Thanks for your expert opinion jacka$$.
Some of the super intelligent liberals and their sharp,insightful commentary regarding Palin:
Margaret Cho on Sarah Palin… Literally
How progressive!!!!!
Sandra Bernhard: Palin Would Be Gang-Raped By Blacks in Manhattan
Here’s some of what she says in the promo:
Yes, liberalism in action.
Salon,a leading liberal site/magazine shows some more of that liberal intellect:
Great moments in media: Salon’s dominatrix/bestiality photoshop of Palin
Yea,it’s a good thing liberals are sticking to the issues.
There is just all kinds of proof that Palin dressed up as a dominatrix wanting to have sex with animals.
Of course there is so many more examples of the hatred and bigotry displayed by the liberals who claim such a moral and intellectual high ground,this is just a few more:
Crush the Obamedia narrative: Look who’s “gripped by insane rage”
By Michelle Malkin • October 12, 2008 11:50 AM
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-obamedia-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/?print=1
Videos and art depicting Palin being beaten.
Bumper stickers calling for her abortion.
entertainers calling for her gang rape.
Over and over and over the examples all across the liberal spectrum from politicians to entertainers to liberal pundits
smearing,lying,and calling for brutal beatings and rape of someone they disagree with politically.
It’s a good thing you liberals could dig up those one-liners,it really justifies your ignorance and hate.
Baxter Greene on June 11, 2009 at 10:34 PM
You go to the V-monologues to get a laugh?
Is that after you’re done burning crosses at the Black Churches?
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Big talk from the group that couldn’t let go of Bill Clinton’s pant leg long enough to utter a PEEP in support of the principles it supposedly stood for. Everyone take note: sex between adult men and young girls is wrong again.
For the record, I didn’t think the “slutty stewardness” comment was all that funny, but I wasn’t offended by it. If women want to be taken seriously as leaders, they need to get beyond being shocked and outraged by stuff like that.
Infidoll on June 11, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Baxter Greene, thanks for throwing that putrid, festering bucket of s*** all over Souther Cow.
atheling on June 11, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Rape is so funny, especially when it happens violently to young children. It is a real knee slapper. Every time I think about the rape or child molestation I burst out in laughter. What a howl rape and pedophilia is. Child abuse is even funnier. LOL LOL laugh laugh laugh
/sarc
by the way: go to firedavidletterman.com and hillbuzz.
http://www.firedavidletterman.com/
Geochelone on June 11, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Letterman’s a doofus and those were classless statements (typical liberal crap I’m starting to get used to from popular entertainment)…. But I think a lot of us are starting to overreact a bit to the A-Rod/Palin’s daughter joke. I think it was clear that he was talking about her adult child who has gone through with a well-publicized pregnancy (which shouldn’t have been a media issue, but like it or not, at this point most of the country thinks of her as a teen-aged mother and she’s been outspoken about it and even sold photos of the child to a magazine).
It wasn’t as offensive and hateful as it was stupid and completely unhumorous.
Sign of the Dollar on June 11, 2009 at 10:40 PM
I hope this is the beginning of
a trendthe end for NOW.jeanie on June 11, 2009 at 8:40 PM
txdoc on June 11, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Finally someone who has a good sense of humor and appreciates a good rape joke about a 14 year old every now and then.
Rape = funny
Gang Rape = hilarious
Child abuse = howler
/sarc
Geochelone on June 11, 2009 at 10:41 PM
A young boy asked his father, “How should I say grace before every meal?”
The father said, “The proper form of grace today is, ‘Thank G-d and Hitler.’”
But, the son asked, :But father, suppose the Führer dies?”
The father replied, “Then you just thank G-d.”
Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM
SouthernGal
Wow. A new troll to mock. Thanks, Idiot!
JAM on June 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Hey, she was cracky Holocaust joke earlier.
She’s a real clown.
She still hasn’t told me her best blackface joke.
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Somebody check to see if Letterman is missing a stalker.
LibTired (KO) on June 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM
So. We still get to compare Michelle Obama to a Klingon?
I know it’s hardly a true comparison since the resemblance is so…uncanny, but…
Wait, what?
Those darn cranial ridges distracted me again…
catmman on June 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM
That might not be Southerngal’s type of humor.
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Problem is,she loves it.
lies,Hate,violence,rape,murder,all are okay with liberals as long as it’s directed at their political opponents.
But don’t you dare say Obama’s middle name or Merry Christmas.
Baxter Greene on June 11, 2009 at 10:46 PM
“For the record, I didn’t think the “slutty stewardness” comment was all that funny, but I wasn’t offended by it. If women want to be taken seriously as leaders, they need to get beyond being shocked and outraged by stuff like that.
Infidoll on June 11, 2009 at 10:35 PM”
It’s the coordinated attacks on here children that are the problem.
the_nile on June 11, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Why? You’ve already shown that you have none for innocent 14 year old girls.
Scrappy on June 11, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Oh, and color me unimpressed with NOW for doing this, well, NOW.
How many years have they let leftists hypocrisy stand? How many conservative woman, or just woman who don’t have the same politics as the NOW crowd been left out in the cold? And to qualify the statement as they did? Please…
catmman on June 11, 2009 at 10:48 PM
I know, but I can do Jewish humor. I just can’t do rape and pedophilia humor. Maybe I need to lighten up.
How about we burn it at the stake?
Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 10:49 PM
http://jeanettes-celebrity-corner.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/david-letterman417.jpg
Daves dumpy wife.
roninacreage on June 11, 2009 at 10:49 PM
First, what do you want to burn?
Secondly, yeah, that’s the attitude. Just lighten up.
I’m personally trying, but I don’t see how making fun of people being sent to ovens is funny.
I guess comedy is relative; that is, if SouthernGal finds that funny.
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 10:50 PM
A certain troll that seems to be Jewish in claim only.
Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 10:52 PM
SouthernGal is humorless. Irony is the lowest form of humor. She is not intellectually curious. She is only here to deride, impugn, distort, and incite.
My guess is that ’she’ is really ‘Ed Schultz’ LOL
daesleeper on June 11, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Unfortunately, that is true most of the time.
Elisa on June 11, 2009 at 10:53 PM
I understand totally. I’d rather not engage.
I will, however, go pray to God. I don’t think I’ve ever prayed for my country more than I have in these few months. It is scary.
Elisa on June 11, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Yo Dave, back when you were single didn’t you knock-up some slut a few years ago who eventually gave birth to your ba5tard kid?
….just askin’…………..
StimulateTHIS on June 11, 2009 at 11:01 PM
He didn’t say it always was. And he didn’t use jokes about it to attack people through their children.
Jim Treacher on June 11, 2009 at 11:02 PM
“Rape can be funny.”
As I said before, it’s a joke, lighten up.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Yeah, and don’t forget Al Franken’s Porn-O-Rama musings for Playboy where he got some pretty big laughs with his jokes about rape. I’m sure the Lib-NOW crowd thought it was pretty amusing, which is why they endorsed his campaign. Seems like he’s got just the temperment we need in the next US Senator from the great state of Minnesota.
StimulateTHIS on June 11, 2009 at 11:06 PM
I’ve been boycotting DL for years…
reshas1 on June 11, 2009 at 11:09 PM
David Letterman: “For the last time, he’s Hicks, he’s Hudson and she is my wife.
thgrant on June 11, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Nice how they try and spin it like this is the first time a republican has been attacked after the week of “Which Conservatives would we like to rape” was posted.
Rbastid on June 11, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Suuuure. “You’re getting raped. Might as well enjoy it.” Riiiight…
Do me a favor. Try telling that same Carlin skit to at least two or three actual victims of rape. I dare you. Double… No. Triple! Dare ya!
Make sure you wear a fencing helmet, though…
newton on June 11, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Hmmmm…
This is what The Andy Griffin Show would have been like…if Barney killed Andy, buried him in the basement, and had a tazer to use on Aunt Bea to keep her in line.
Okay, it is not a total slam dunk in her favor because she said she was getting in her truck, but he could have easily overpowered her or blocked her from doing so. The officer was letting his own emotions go too. Reminded me a little of Andrew Sullivan, going after Sarah Palin (only difference being Sarah Palin could probably physically kick this cop’s and Andrew Sullivan’s ass at the same time).
Mr. Joe on June 11, 2009 at 11:16 PM
I have an even better one for ya!
Why not tell that to the PARENTS of rape victims. In particular, the parents of those rape victims who are in their teen years, and especially those under the age of consent in any of the fifty states. I dare ya!
Then watch Todd Palin wield a hockey stick at ya!
newton on June 11, 2009 at 11:17 PM
It doesn’t matter what he said. Rape isn’t funny – ever.
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:20 PM
I don’t think you’re female.
capitalist piglet on June 11, 2009 at 11:20 PM
I wasn’t listening to Rush at the time, but calling Chelsea Clinton the White House dog made me laugh out loud when I read it in the pr.
blue13326 on June 11, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Misogynist, Skin-head, “Jewish,” Southern-Yankee, womyn, troll.
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:23 PM
While I do sometimes cringe at the snark regarding Michelle Obama and Meghan McCain, I am not sure how Linda Tripp got thrown in there. I thought it took guts for her to go up against the Clinton machine.
coyoterex on June 11, 2009 at 11:24 PM
She got confused which blog she was on…
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:27 PM
For all those Liberals who say these are just jokes, what would they say to the following joke?
.
How do you know that there are no more racists since Obama was elected? Because his daughters were just gang raped by white conservatives.
.
Ha, ha, ha – what a funny joke.
FactsofLife on June 11, 2009 at 11:27 PM
The only thing I know for sure so far, is that this one is extremely vile. Cringe, shudder and sick stomach producing.
Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 11:27 PM
There’s no way to control what other people laugh at. I like sick humor sometimes, but not when it’s being used to attack people’s children.
Jim Treacher on June 11, 2009 at 11:29 PM
SouthernGal dresses like a slut, to make up for her pea brain commentary. It’s not workng, Honey.
luvstotango on June 11, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Is that piece of crap still here? I had to walk the dog and clean up his crap and now I have to listen to SouthernTrolls crap too?
Knucklehead on June 11, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Of course there’s no way to control this. There’s no way to control what people like, love, hate, &c – well, one can try, but it’s call North Korea.
That said, it doesn’t mean it’s right to crack jokes about rape, killing, and other forms of brutal violence. We can stick up for what’s right. There are differing levels of sick humor, and some are just too vile – always have been and always will be. Carlin was wrong if he said “rape is funny,” but he’s free to say that so long as I’m free to completely disagree (verbally).
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Can you taste it?
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Women will never be equal until we beat this crap right out of men.
bloggless on June 11, 2009 at 11:36 PM
HEY ALLAH, THIS POST REALLY NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.
bloggless on June 11, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Ya and it don’t taste good. I just read the rape joke.
BOR will love it/ Evidently AP and Ed are ok with it.
Knucklehead on June 11, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Maybe we shouldn’t laugh at anything. Surely that would make the libtards happy.
platypus on June 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Yeah…
She made a Holocaust Joke too.
This is like wolfboy saying Palin deserved to be hunted or eaten…
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Yeah, kinda gross.
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:45 PM
I think old factoflife signed up several times for open registration. How else to explain the silly attempts at trying to act like an evil conservative.
bloggless on June 11, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Look I think letterman should be nominated for one of those “father of the year” awards that lame groups give to lame “celebrities”.
It cracks me up he considers himself a FATHER.
DVPTexFla on June 11, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking
Either way, that’s despicable. Eh, but I guess I’m just not seeing the comedy in it.
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:50 PM
There is no such thing as a rape joke. There are only sick a-holes who post this crap hoping that Bill O’Reilly will feature their post on his show.
bloggless on June 11, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Oh, and he probably will.
He’ll use it as his way to get in good with Palin’s Non-HA fans by smashing on US!
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Last Father of the Year I can recall was John Edwards. And we all know how that turned out, don’t we?
bloggless on June 11, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Sad to see conservatives get their panties in a knot over a joke.
Political correctness will be the death of us.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 11:52 PM
I suspect bloggless is a lib toady leaving turds here to be used against conservatives.
atheling on June 11, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Well either AP or Ed’s online cause they removed a post by one of our best members who made an ugly typo. SouthernTroll just made an appearance in the QOTD thread.
Knucklehead on June 11, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Can you imagine just how much flack the NOW gals had to be getting from even their groupies for them to make any comment. Maybe just maybe little man may have gone to far…maybe?
DVPTexFla on June 11, 2009 at 11:54 PM
So you admit that rape is a joke?
You admit you like Holocaust jokes?
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Okay, all we need to do now is stop all the male bashing in the media and we can all live in bliss with nothing left to joke about except skyrocketing unemployment and generations of debt. Happy days!
Dollayo on June 11, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Yeah, I saw that.
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 11:55 PM
You slay me.
bloggless on June 11, 2009 at 11:56 PM
To me, this is not funny or acceptable.
Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 11:56 PM
She thinks abortion is even funnier.
Too bad her mother didn’t. Then she’s be “Southern Biowaste.”
alliebobbitt on June 11, 2009 at 11:58 PM
I’ll give credit where credit’s due, even if NOW had to be shamed into it thanks to us making it something they couldn’t ignore. I guess that’s some progress.
It must have really pained them to have to write that.
Gator Country on June 11, 2009 at 11:58 PM
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Who’s “us?” Didn’t you acknowledge being a lib on another thread?
cs89 on June 11, 2009 at 11:58 PM
You can’t find anything to mock in this administration, even with Biden, but you’d stoop to rape jokes about a teenager?
alliebobbitt on June 11, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Learn to use the system.
bloggless on June 11, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Not only did we get a whole new bunch of trolls, but ugly ones to boot.
Take it somewhere else ElenaBobbitt.
Knucklehead on June 12, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Carpetbagger, in other words.
alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:02 AM
That seems a little nicer than what she really is. Ho many Misogynist womyn do you know?
Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:03 AM
*Ho=How
Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Who is “ElenaBobbitt” and who are you?
alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:04 AM
“Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.” H. L. Mencken
alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Since NOW is nice enough to remind us of an insult someone said 15 years ago, can we get them to be outraged at some Democrat who called Nancy Reagan a ho back in 1982? I mean, it would be just as relevant.
Speedwagon82 on June 12, 2009 at 12:06 AM
It. Who knows what? I’m also working on the Jewish anti-Semite trick.
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 12:06 AM
If I have to tell ya, then you’re too young to know.
Knucklehead on June 12, 2009 at 12:07 AM
Yeah, I got to admit I don’t know a lot of observant Jewish trolls that remember to write “G-d.”
Might be a good act ;)
Upstater85 on June 12, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Okay wait…you said…
With leftists?
Good luck.
Bloo on June 12, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Her name was Lorraine. I bet you don’t even feel a little bit stupid, either.
alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 12:14 AM
He’s doing his McCain imitation.
atheling on June 12, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Nope, not stupid, just old and blind.
Knucklehead on June 12, 2009 at 12:15 AM
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