Doctors oppose “public plan” in ObamaCare
posted at 2:15 pm on June 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The AMA has a long history of supporting government-subsidized health care, but has always drawn the line at a system of socialized medicine, ie, single-payer. The current plans wending their way through the House and Senate would normally have gotten enthusiastic support from the AMA, but the association has balked at a key proposal from the administration:
As the health care debate heats up, the American Medical Association is letting Congress know that it will oppose creation of a government-sponsored insurance plan, which President Obama and many other Democrats see as an essential element of legislation to remake the health care system.
The opposition, which comes as Mr. Obama prepares to address the powerful doctors’ group on Monday in Chicago, could be a major hurdle for advocates of a public insurance plan. The A.M.A., with about 250,000 members, is America’s largest physician organization.
While committed to the goal of affordable health insurance for all, the association had said in a general statement of principles that health services should be “provided through private markets, as they are currently.” It is now reacting, for the first time, to specific legislative proposals being drafted by Congress.
The AMA wants the legislation to focus on leveraging private-market insurance instead of government-backed plans, and for good reason: they’ve dealt with Medicare. Many doctors have given up on Medicare altogether, refusing to take any new Medicare-insured patients, because Medicare doesn’t cover the costs of providing their service. Medicare is also a paperwork nightmare, as I can attest from first-hand experience. They often withdraw payments already given to doctors a year or more later over some hiccup in their internal accounting. The headaches of getting reimbursements makes Medicare business unprofitable.
However, as the New York Times’ Robert Pear reports, the public plan is the key element to ObamaCare. The White House claims that they want to use it to keep insurers “honest,” but competition and sensible regulation do that. They want to have an option to offer a loss-leader plan that will undercut the private insurers on price so that they will get forced out of the health-care sector, which will leave a single-payer plan in place by default. The AMA understands this better than anyone, and will mobilize to keep from getting locked into a Medicare nightmare with no escape.
To a certain extent, though, the AMA brought this upon themselves. Pear also reports that they broke with a trend of supporting Republicans in national elections in 2008, giving 56% of their donations to Democrats. They got the Congress and the White House they wanted, even though Obama and the Democrats made it perfectly clear how they envisioned ObamaCare. I’m glad to see the AMA fighting this, but they deserve the Captain Louis Renault Award for their shock, shock! that Democrats want to impose socialized medicine:
Well, at least they’re blowing the whistle now.
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What we need to do is discourage greed.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 3:25 PM
13?
mankai on June 11, 2009 at 3:25 PM
And encourage more unicorn adoptions.
mankai on June 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM
I think you’re right, mankai, re: SG’s age. No one who has actually been out and worked in the real world would be so clueless.
If you refuse to pay doctors, doctors will stop practicing medicine and go into some other line of business (this is already happening, btw), which will cause a constriction in the supply of health care providers…which, in turn, will lead to longer waiting periods which in some cases will prove fatal. And the doctors that are left will NOT be the “cream of the crop”, so to speak.
Basic economics. Why is it that Dems want to ignore that?
ElvenPhoenix on June 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM
I don’t think that has ever worked. Do you have any examples of where this has succeeded?
tneloms on June 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM
As long as this person is serving his fellow Americans, he or she will be doing the right thing.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Dear God. To think this is the future of our country. Please, honey, stop showing your ignorance. It’s embarrassing.
Also, I’d like to join the list of folks whose bills you are going to pay. Where do I sign up?
txag92 on June 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Don’t worry. It will. We’ll have doctors who don’t care about money, can’t perform up to par (but are pushed ahead, anyway, for affirmative action – of which we already have far too many) and are generally incompetent and dangerous. It’ll be your dream world.
Just think of the paradise we’ll have – a whole set of doctors who know as much about medicine as a Precedent who thinks there are such things as “profit and earnings ratios”. A veritable leftist heaven.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Yes, and the standard for how much they are serving their fellow Americans is free market COMPENSATION.
And the great thing about the Capitalistic system, is that it does this without any meddling from the government.
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM
I work for a healthcare system. You have no idea what doctors really make, what their expenses are, how much insurance they have to carry for lawsuits, employees they have to pay, equipment they have to buy, continuing education they recieve to stay at the top of their game which is to provide excellent healthcare to their patients.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
ladyingray on June 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Start with ACORN.
…and I don’t see unions fighting for lower wages anywhere.
mankai on June 11, 2009 at 3:29 PM
The AMA is pretty corrupt as well. The reason they don’t like this idea is because they call for an increase in doctors. The AMA artificially keeps the numbers of doctors low so that they can keep their rates high – and blame the rise in the COST of health care on insurance companies.
The administration calls for more doctors. That’s specifically what the AMA is designed to prevent. Of course they don’t like it. . . but they won’t tell you that is why.
We need more doctors whether we have Universal Coverage from the government or not. The AMA will not allow their sovereignty to be taken out by a mere president.
ThackerAgency on June 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Poor unicorns.
WashJeff on June 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM
We need to discourage liberals from breeding.
kahall on June 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Great question!! Bet your she doesn’t answer it.
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Great idea, the Black Book of Communism documents the way that’s done.
Where should we build our gulags and re-education camps for those who refuse to get with your “hope and change” program? Montana is empty and has the proper climate.
Or should slaving away for the benefit of others be entirely voluntary?
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Great question!! Bet
youryou she doesn’t answer it.Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Yes, through the lowering of standards. That will work out great. What I want is a doctor who “doesn’t do well on standardized tests”, like Sotomeyer or Michelle Obama. So I can get a lawyer like Sotomeyer or Obama to sue them when they botch operation after operation. If I survive.
Good thing we have a seemingly endless supply of lawyers, however. We’re up to our armpits in them and somehow, they are all highly compensated it seems. Why is that, exactly?
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Don’t blame SG… I don’t think she’s old enought to vote.
mankai on June 11, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Has anybody considered writing up a list of the current Statist Trolls around here?
I’ve noticed that new ones seem to show up from time to time and eventually get banned and new ones take their place.
Right now I can think of a couple for the list.
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Since when does that matter?
You can vote 10 times on election day if you’re a Democrat, whether your five years old or in the cemetery.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM
I hope she’s at least old enough to work… I want to discourage her from being greedy, so I’m going to graciously let her pay my bills. This will give her the chance to serve her fellow American.
I’m tearing up… I’ve got to go!
mankai on June 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM
SouthernGal:
Human Economics 101:
If you want more of something, reward it. If you want less of something, punish it.
This works in parenting, employment, job creation, innovation, creation…etc, etc. When you truly understand this you will understand how asinine you are being saying that medical professionals (who attend school for years and saddle themselves with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt) should practice their profession without being compensated for it.
Anytime someone receives something for nothing there is the perception that it has no value. Just look at any government subsidized housing. The place can be pristine prior to having residents – then is reduced to trash status by the time the recipients of the governments largess move out. Check it out sometime, as it might open your eyes.
ElvenPhoenix on June 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Why ban them? The provide constant proof to refute the idea that a left wing intelligensia, actually exists.
The vast majority of leftists are mindless, inane drones and allowing them to speak their “minds” only strengthens our case against them.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM
I believe the culture of stupid in the average-joe sector must come to an end. Alas, SG is not a full-on Socialist, she is just a pathetically average example of the end result of our current educational system. Thoroughly unable to reason or think logically. Everyone should keep their responses to her very simple, it would be cruel to make her head explode.
Puddleglum on June 11, 2009 at 3:41 PM
I seriously doubt she’s earned an actual paycheck in her life, at least not for anything above a minimum wage summer job at the Gap.
I was a leftist until I actually had to live in the real world. This gal is obviously under her daddy’s care.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Here is what is needed: TORT REFORM – this is why the doctors order every test in the book if you come in with a headache. Afraid of trial lawyers and the insurance costs for doctors is outrageous.
Portable Insurance Across State Lines – would open up the insurance market for competition.
Walgreens, Target, Walmart and others are opening up clinics in their stores to see patients with flu, virus issues and other minor things that usually clog ER’s. The cost is about $50 – what the co-pay is for the ER. Makes sense and it’s the “free market”. Capitalism, remember that?
Obama is a statist, a liar and a thug. BYW…. Most doctors make right around $150,000 a year with an established practice. They work long hours. Cardiologists and other specialists make quite a bit more. Hospitalists are now the rage taking the pressure off the doctors. Pretty soon there will be hardly any doctors. Medicare patients are not being accepted – they don’t want to deal with the Government. Therein lies the problem here THE GOVERNMENT…. These liberals in Washington hate this Country and want to control you. Wait til they can say “you eat at McDonalds? You can’t be treated”. Control, control, control.
suzyk on June 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Those seem like ideas that could work… but we’re not interested in ideas that work… we want ideas that make us feel good (until we need medical attention, that is).
Universal Unicorn Insurance!
mankai on June 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM
OK, so the guys/gals who want beemers bow out. Big deal?
100% of ALL my medical issues to this date could have been handled by a nurse practicioner.
Frankly, I’m a complete bore medically.
AnninCA on June 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Do you have a source for this? I don’t disagree, but I have never seen evidence that it wasn’t just keeping entrance standards high.
pedestrian on June 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Exactly and the Democrat Congress will get to that issue, right after they pass the “Swine Fly” Bill.
The only people Democrats love more than goldbricking union members are thieving lawyers.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Do you have the foggiest idea what it takes to be a doctor?
pedestrian on June 11, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Greed in healthcare must be discouraged.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Oh no, I’m not saying that they should be banned – unless the ‘management’ seems fit to.
I’m just suggesting that we have a cheat sheet – a Current Statist Troll List [CSTL] or some such as a quick reference.
It’s usually pretty obvious after just a couple of postings who these people are, and sometimes it would be useful if others consider them to be trolls with regards to whether and how to respond to them.
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Well, there you go then. You haven’t needed an expensive specialist yet. Therefore, no one needs one.
Let’s get rid of silly, greedy specialists like Oncologists.
If you get cancer, you can ask your Nurse Practitioner to give you a Motrin and on your death bed, you can tell us all how you are glad that you helped bring down the cost of health care.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Why do you hate Joe The Plumber? Are you a socialist or a queer or something?
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Whether or not greed has ended is not the point.
The point is that it must be discouraged. All true conservatives and patriots believe greed is evil.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM
With every vacuous sentence, they prove their utter inanity, hence no cheat sheet is necessary, in my opinion.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Pre-med college classes were hard. Med school was harder and just as long, and internship and residency were even tougher and longer. You don’t think so? Try it. Then run your own office, pay your staff, their health insurance payments, your malpractice premiums, supplies, taxes, and continuing education fees. Then complain about how much doctors make. Don’t forget the $100,000+ in student loans. My brother-in-law is a plumber and makes more than I do, without even a college degree. How long do you think the best and brightest will endure that kind of grueling training and debt if Obama caps their income at ever-lower levels?
EyeSurgeon on June 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM
You. Are. A. First. Class. Idiot.
Knucklehead on June 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM
And you are?
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Nonsense. True conservatives and patriots know that greed is in the eye of the beholder.
I am sure that there are many people who would consider how YOU live your life to be incredibly greedy. If you live in America, you enjoy a standard of living that few people who have ever existed could possibly have imagined.
True conservatives and patriots believe in free association and freedom. Not having some nanny state where the government decides who is and who is not “greedy”.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:57 PM
I am saddened that conservatives believe greed is good.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Google American Revolution, Boston Tea Party, Taxation Without Representation, Stamp Act, etc. then get back to me.
MMMKay?
cs89 on June 11, 2009 at 3:58 PM
The point is that greed must be discouraged, especially where health of Americans (USA! USA! Americans rule!) are concerned. We all agree on this.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Greed = evil?
It can be argued that excessive greed is evil or can lead to evil, but you seem to conflate greed with wanting to be compensated fairly for work which one has invested years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in to obtain the expertise required.
Grow up. Live in the real world and you’ll learn soon enough that it is not fair when someone steals from you to give to someone else.
ElvenPhoenix on June 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Great question!! Bet you she doesn’t answer it.
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Here we go again:
Again: Has any economic system that does this ever SUCCEEDED?
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 4:00 PM
SouthernGal has to be a trust fund baby. She’s too stupid to do any meaningful work and she has the time to troll all day.
Blake on June 11, 2009 at 4:01 PM
You. Are. An. Idiot. Troll. And. A. Commie. Pinko.
Knucklehead on June 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Sadly, she is an accurate representative of the majority in the recent election. At least she is here and has a hope of learning something.
pedestrian on June 11, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Define it. You’re tossing around “greed” without a definition.
FYI, most doctors operate their own office, for which they have to pay rent. They hire their own assistants, nurses, and office personnel, whom they have to pay. They have to take Continuing Education courses to maintain their licenses (which can be quite expensive), and also have to pay a licensing fee to the state. Oh, and don’t forget malpractice insurance. One reason the number of OB/GYNs is declining so drastically is the ever-increasing malpractice premiums.
So. SouthernGal. What do you think a doctor should make? Let me tell you, $150,000/year may not cover all the expenses. So should a doctor go into debt (which they already have extensive amounts of due to the cost of medical school) to “serve” mankind?
(For some reason “To Serve Man” popped into my mind…)
ElvenPhoenix on June 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM
You are right, so why aren’t Democrats going after the “greed” of lawyers?
When a man is on trial for his life, why doesn’t the court appoint a $500 trial lawyer and force him to provide a defense, instead of appointing some guy who barely passed the bar two months ago?
Seriously though, “greed” cannot be defined. By certain standards, the way you live your life is greedy. If you have a definition of greed, please provide it.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Everyone note that when the Statist Troll is LOSING the argument, they resort to obfuscation and name calling.
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Thank you.
I look forward to learning about conservatism and its contention that greed and profit in healthcare at the expense of working families is a good thing.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Sadly, noe!!!11!!! She is suffering from a terminal case of stupidity.
Blake on June 11, 2009 at 4:07 PM
I didn’t mean to ask when has ending greed ever worked. I was asking for examples where discouraging greed has led to good consequences. One example to the contrary is free market capitalism, which harnesses greed to achieve very good results. Examples from Europe that depart from the capitalism model do not discourage greed, they just don’t harness it in the same way. I don’t think it’s correct to say that Europeans doctors are less greedy than American ones. They just aren’t able to make as much money.
So, do you have any examples where greed is actually discouraged, and where this has led to good consequences? If not, it’s hard to really argue that discouraging greed is a good idea, especially when there are plenty of examples to the contrary.
I definitely disagree. Most conservatives would probably say that greed is an inevitable force that can be harnessed through capitalism to create a great society.
tneloms on June 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM
SG does not believe that doctors are working people with families, a mortgage, car payments, etc. SG seems to think that they are saints that live on air, not requiring food, shelter, or a quality of life.
I hope SG becomes a doctor, then has to contend with Obamacare, long hours, and next to no paycheck. Maybe then she’ll wise up.
ElvenPhoenix on June 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM
What is your definition of greed?
Because there is no universal definition, are you capable of understanding that?
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Who is more greedy?
The person who works to educate themselves or start a business that employs people or invents a new product that helps mankind.
Or, a low-life politician that produces nothing and can only STEAL from the productive to buy votes and keep their sorry rear in office?
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Oh, lord! Do you have any idea how many people that dingbat would kill?
Blake on June 11, 2009 at 4:12 PM
I believe the fact there are people out there who are discouraging greed is a good consequence in and of itself, for it means that there are good people out there.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Speaking of greed, how about Michelle “Abs” Obama getting paid $300k for being married to Obama?
How about all her whining about how hard it was for her to pay for her loans, mortgage, piano lessons while taking in millions of dollars?
How about the fact even though they were millionaires, that when it comes to charitable donations, the Obamas only significant donation was about $20+k to their racist church?
Blake on June 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM
The real question is who is more “greedy”, the individual who trains for years and who educates himself to the point where he can save countless lives and who is well-compensated for it?
Or the people who do nothing with their lives and who exist solely due to the kindness of others.
Personally, I believe the able-bodied “homeless” and the people on welfare are “greedy”. They only take, they give nothing.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM
I know it when I see it.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:17 PM
You do?
I do to.
I see it in the face of every able-bodied homeless bum who asks me for my spare change.
I see it in the face of every worthless trial lawyer who charges $500 per hour.
I see it in the face of every brainless leftist who believes that he or she is qualified to decide what constitutes greed and that the rest of us should live by his or her standards.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Oh dear. You insist on proving my point.
Puddleglum on June 11, 2009 at 4:20 PM
But can’t (or won’t) define it?
cs89 on June 11, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Right. Everytime you look in the mirror.
Blake on June 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM
SouthernGal is the reincarnation of getalife saying the same thing over and over.
Damned open registrations.
txsurveyor on June 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Wow, you’re a homophobe/gaybasher, too.
Blake on June 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Of course not. Even she knows that her own inane argument is doomed to failure.
Kind of like an Obama speech, no actual questions are permitted, you just have to flow with the generalized lunacy of the premise.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
And the troll girl just posted that she’s Jewish.
Knucklehead on June 11, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Um, one of my first posts was that I’m Jewish.
Try to keep up.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Congratulations on that and you’re southern too, how’s that working out.
Back to the real world, what a Jewish southern gal’s definition of greed?
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Whats with this line from the author in the piece?
Are we supposed to be frightened or something?
doctor horton on June 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM
I don’t believe SG is Southern at all. I think she’s trying to make those of us that are Southern women look bad.
ElvenPhoenix on June 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Sorry, but that’s kind of irrelevant to the topic at hand – let’s not sink down the level of the Statist troll
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Utopia isn’t even a realistic goal for a fantasy film. This is reality.
Doctors pay for medical school. It’s even longer in school to specialize. I guess in your utopia that’s free too.
Doctors spend an amazing amount of time in unpaid training, working as interns in hospitals with insane, almost dangerously long shifts, getting abused regularly by tenured doctors…I guess they should tolerate this and not get compensated, just for humanity’s sake right?
Nobody else in the world works at their job or career for money, so doctors should be on call with hospitals and run practices for minimum wage in your utopia, right? Just because they want to help people get well, they shouldn’t expect to get decent compensation.
Well guess what toots….be prepared to go on a waiting list, not just for regular doctors willing to put up with your slavery like attitude of utopian ideals, get ready for the waiting list times 1,000 when you need a specialist.
THEN get ready for a pack of substandard, underpaid bumbling, overworked students attempting to diagnose you in a pack as they breeze by your hospital bed. Get ready for the misdiagnosis or no diagnosis or wrongly prescribed medication…if you get any at all. Get ready to be told that this illness, although suddenly having erupted, is all your fault because you didn’t practice preventative care, therefore aren’t eligible for the proper treatment. Just blow into this cardboard tube, you’ll be fine. Also, don’t plan on aging to age 50, because after that you’ll be 10 years beyond priority to even get on the 5 year waiting list to treat your illness.
Yay. Welcome to utopia.
Oops, almost forgot…since medical care is so expensive and everyone is getting it at low cost, in exchange for saving your sorry butt we’re going to confiscate your property and bank accounts, k? K.
Have a nice day!
Spiritk9 on June 11, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Like I said, I know it when I see it.
And to the person who said I see it when I look in the mirror, well, that’s true. I am the greediest person I know, and it is not something I am proud of.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM
SG why don’t you answer the question I posed:
Who is more greedy?
The person who works to educate themselves or start a business that employs people or invents a new product that helps mankind.
Or, a low-life politician that produces nothing and can only STEAL from the productive to buy votes and keep their sorry rear in office?
Chainsaw56 on June 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Mandatory health care will lead to mandatory health.
Eugenics here we come.
Dhuka on June 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Well maybe you should cleanse your soul and not hang around all these conservative blogs belching out your moonbat talking points.
Knucklehead on June 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM
How do you purport to base the law or even a philosophy on “I know it when I see it”?
And yes, you are greedy. So is everyone else. And they always will be. What the free market does is to harness the greed inherent in human nature, to benefit others. If you work hard and become a doctor and help people, you get well compensated.
In the system you are suggesting, the greedy people will be the people running the government. That is how what you’re suggesting, has always and will always work out. Because the government will be where the money is.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Or laboring for free, to benefit others.
In the time she’s spent moaning about “greed”, she could have cooked up some soup and handed it out to the “homeless”.
If she wants people to work for free, she can start by setting an example.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Why is “homeless” in scare quotes?
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Is this for real?
Let me share a story (not for sympathy, just the truth). I just graduated medical school 2 weeks ago. Average debt is $182,000 from my school, at the current student loan interest rate of 6.8% over 30 year repayment (which is what most people have to do) that $180K turns into over $400,000. Then after medical school everyone has to do a residency (3 years at the shortest up to 7-8 years for things like neurosurgery). As a resident one makes between $45,000 to $50,000 a year working 80 hours a week. The Democrats are currently working really hard to get rid of student loan deferments during residency, because clearly on the aforementioned salary one can afford $1000 a month just on student loan payments (yes that’s the monthly payment even on a 30 year term). In my residency I will get an average of one weekend free a month and am scheduled to work July 4th, Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Eve this calendar year. Only after residency does one start making money, but you’re still working way over 40 hrs a week, and work weekends and holidays. Do I want people to feel sorry for me? No! I chose this life and despite the difficulties am ecstatic that I achieved my goal of becoming a physician. What does make me furious is the suggestion that wanting to be compensated for all the aforementioned hard work makes me greedy.
drmanyee on June 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I guess since you’re a moonbat, YOUR greed is ok, as long as you don’t actually have to work for anything. After all, if you get a hangnail you’ll probably sue for malpractice, and that won’t cost the system anything either.
Your greed is justified, nobody else’s is. Right?
Just out of curiosity, what cave on what island do moonbats like you come from? I want to see what I can do to get that island to erupt, obliterating your nauseating population.
Spiritk9 on June 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Why not answer the question instead of asking stupid questions about quotation marks? Is your college professor absent today and can’t feed you assinine talking points?
Knucklehead on June 11, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Are you saying homeless people don’t exist and that it isn’t a real problem?
I’ve seen so many homeless veterans, it is so sad.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:47 PM
To protect your delicate eyes. What they really are, are greedy, vile bums.
You see, while you demonize productive people who dedicate countless hours to training in order to save lives, I choose to demonize lazy, worthless people who spend their lives as parasites, menacingly asking people for “spare change”.
They contribute nothing, take everything, yet I’m sure you consider “the homeless” to be the salt of the earth. And they’re people who do nothing that benefits anyone but themselves.
Meanwhile, people who work countless hours to save lives, are “greedy”, in your eyes, for not wanting to do it for a salary YOU think is appropriate.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM
She can’t answer because her request for new talking points is in a long queue at KOS.
Spiritk9 on June 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Israel.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Oh my g-d.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Well then, I’m buying you a ticket to Gaza.
Byeeeee!
Spiritk9 on June 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Ask them to produce a DD-214 and you’ll get a blank stare.
I worked for the VA, there are more phony “veterans” among the homeless than you can possibly count. We treated many of them for years, before someone actually had the gumption oto ask them to produce a certificate of discharge.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM
So, you’re going to pay them to go to medical school? I like it better when they pay for it on their own. And if they’re out for a profit, then they’ll make sure they don’t screw up. Cuz when they do, it’ll kill their profits. In a profitless world, there’s no negative consequences for poor performance.
How about chefs? I mean, they’re profiting at the expense of starving people.
How about school teachers? Those folks are getting raises all the time, and tenure. Are they being selfish?
People deserve to make as much money as they want to make. If you don’t want to pay somebody, find a beggar/doctor for YOUR next procedure.
hawksruleva on June 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM
NoDonkey…
I just…wow…
wow.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM
I see you’ve fallen for the John Edwards propaganda and talking points.
Wow, just wow. OMG. Wow.
Knucklehead on June 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Please tell us how “the homeless” are superior to “greedy doctors” in your eyes, this should be entertaining.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM
I am speechless at the lack of empathy for homeless people exhibited here.
I knew conservatives were mean, but wow. Wow.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Thanks for trying to educate her. :)
Blake on June 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM
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