Democratic mutiny over Waxman-Markey?
posted at 12:55 pm on June 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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The Hill reports that the Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade bill faces growing opposition on Capitol Hill — where it counts. Rep. Collin Peterson (D-MN), chair of the Agriculture Committee, says that he has a list of 45 Democrats willing to vote against the bill over its ag policies alone. Peterson says that the list is growing, not shrinking:
More and more Democrats are ready to vote against Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s climate change bill, according to a congressional committee chairman who opposes his leader.
The House Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) said Wednesday that he’s at an impasse with the lead sponsor of a climate change bill strongly backed by Pelosi (D-Calif.), and that his list of Democratic members who would join him in voting against the measure is growing rather than shrinking. …
Peterson has warned that the bill put together by Waxman and Energy and Environment subcommittee Chairman Edward Markey (D-Mass.) will fail if agriculture-related provisions aren’t altered, and he’s said he has as many as 45 votes on his side. That number of Democratic defections would certainly doom the prospects of passing the bill in the House.
And while the Agriculture chairman said he’s working to resolve those differences and not intentionally trying to torpedo the legislation, he noted that skepticism toward the bill is growing, not shrinking.
“I’m just estimating the number of votes that will be against this,” Peterson said. “I suspect that the list has grown as more members have gotten a chance to look at this. I mean, my list has grown.”
On this issue, the policy breaks across regional as well as partisan lines, which gives opponents a better shot at stopping it. Republicans have mostly opposed the C&T system, with only a few exceptions in the House, and none explicitly thus far in the Senate. However, that wouldn’t be enough to stop the bill in either chamber. The key to opposing the bill is in the regional interests at play in Congress.
Peterson, a moderate, represents the agricultural areas of Minnesota, and the Midwestern faction in Congress of either party will not allow farmers to get shafted by a C&T system. All such proposals call for restrictions on what have been highly successful farming strategies in favor of “green” initiatives that are more expensive and less efficient (which is why they’re not being used now). Family farmers already live on thin margins for their businesses, which are usually heavily leveraged; they can’t afford to take losses for the sake of ecological fads.
The coal-producing states are another potential source of bipartisan opposition. The C&T system proposed by Waxman and Markey (and Lieberman and Warner in the Senate) would radically restrict the coal industry in a short period of time. Obama himself bragged that he would put coal-generating plants out of business during the campaign. This would cause an explosion of unemployment and severe economic pain on top of what we are already experiencing in these states. Elected officials from these states cannot blithely sign away the economic future of their constituents — not unless they want an early retirement.
Peterson’s list will continue to grow as the economic realities of C&T become apparent. We need to make sure that they do.
Update: Jim Geraghty notes that the job losses would start immediately:
If climate-change legislation passes Congress in its current form, Lion Oil Co., an El Dorado refinery, will have to shutter operations within a year and lay off 1,200 workers, a company executive told a congressional panel Tuesday.
Passage of the bill “will make our survival impossible,” Steve Cousins, vice president of refining, testified before the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and the Environment.
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Until Waxman, I had never seen a man who looked like an amusement caricature of himself.
/ihopehefails.
bluelightbrigade on June 11, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Fixed it.
bluelightbrigade on June 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM
“Real” jobs according to Democrats consist of people signing up people to vote Democrat, community organizers, union jobs where you work approximately 1/2 hour per day, singers, actors, drug addicts working on “green” solutions and lawyers who spend their days getting rich by suing productive people.
Everyone else is just a goldbricker, according to Democrat Party scum.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 2:43 PM
I despise the phony SOB Markey… He’s even a bigger A-hole in person – as hard as that is to believe.
TheBigOldDog on June 11, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Is it me or does this guy look like Rat?????
He has that rat looking face!
xler8bmw on June 11, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Markey wants to destroy America the way him and his fellow corrupt buddies have destroyed Massachusetts. They all belong in jail.
TheBigOldDog on June 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM
That is really unfair to rats, many of which are quite cute (not the feral variety, but the rest).
califcon on June 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Sometimes the truth is reflected in the face.
TheBigOldDog on June 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM
In a “sane” world C&P would have been DOA. Of course, in a sane world Waxman would never have been given the committee drafting the legistation. Of course, in a really sane world Waxman would not even be in congress.
duff65 on June 11, 2009 at 2:53 PM
All pigs are created equal, however some are more equal than others.
BubbaGun on June 11, 2009 at 2:59 PM
And to think this guy is married.
txag92 on June 11, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Too bad, I was hoping the dems would come in trying to force this down our throats.
It would have been the straw…looks like they, yes, even they, have limits to their foolishness.
right2bright on June 11, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Liberals – especially the home-grown California kind – usually vote for style over substance (see BHO and Gavin Newsom for recent examples), but this guy falls a far cry shorter than most on both counts. He must photoshop his campaign materials pretty well.
Waxman, Pelosi, Boxer… they all make me embarrassed to be from California. Oh, yeah, and the entire CA State Legislature does that as well.
PoodleSkirt on June 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM
That comment is super-cereal!
PoodleSkirt on June 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Waxman = poster boy for the Demon-Rats
james23 on June 11, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Markey is at his best when trying to strong arm the local library clerk.
He is from the Bwarny Fwanf school of “Do you know who I am”?
Amazed on June 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
I love this bill…coal production is knee-capped, coal fired power plants and oil refineries fizzle while coal provides 50% of our power. Power rates and all fuel costs go through the roof and the resulting rolling blackouts make Cuba look like a paragon of industrial progress. 50% to 100% increases in the price of all goods and services result, which are already out of reach because interest rates have already crippled the consumer price index. We’d build more solar and wind power generation, but there is no stable electrical power supply anymore to run the plants. Besides, raw materials to build wind mills, solar panels, and Priuses are so costly to produce, that no one can afford to build and purchase anything. Hey, maybe China will sell us this stuff!
Wyznowski on June 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM
You don’t suppose Waxman and Pelosi are gettin it on there in D.C. do ya? If’n they are I sure can’t wait to get a look at their offspring!
dhunter on June 11, 2009 at 4:00 PM
This is the “You talking to me?” guy that didn’t even KNOW what was in the legislation, when asked a question regarding the contents of the bill. He left it up to “experts”.
lovedinthekeys on June 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM
The Democrats know, or better know, that the wind is shifting. And while a concubine media may “shine them on” – what’s going to be masked is the fact that the winds have not only shifted – but they’re coming up to hurricane force.
They can support Obama – but they are going to get thrown out next year if they do. His policies have already failed – the stimulus – has done harm – not good – and for the harm – our children and grandchildren are now broke.
So this man is “Obama the Destroyer” – they’d be wise to start back-talking him now.
HondaV65 on June 11, 2009 at 4:14 PM
I saw Waxman on an old Twilight Zone episode. Where the “ugly woman” is a beauty, and the rest of the world looks like pig nose Waxman.
Jeff from WI on June 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM
I can only hope that C&P dies. I’ve been trying to teach my “long legged dogs” (cows) to sit and fetch because dog farts are not taxed by C&T. Cows don’t learn very fast ;)
MidWestFarmer on June 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Barney Frank is going to join them for a threesome and the film they produce will be used to punish those evil corporate executives.
The good news is, that the film will be far more enjoyable than the legislation that these deranged idiots produce.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Plus windmills and solar panels are under continuous assault by the environazis of the left because they affect the habitats of rodents like Waxman.
eaglewingz08 on June 11, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Don’t get too cocky yet. Even if we can defeat it in congress the “0″ has the EPA waiting in the wings to impose impossible standards on industry regarding CO2 “pollution”. We are so screwed either way.
chemman on June 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Very true, and they’ve already started. The executive order he signed, way back, which allowed California to start imposing their lunacy on the rest of us (indirectly) paved the way for CA to dictate car standards based on the global warming nonsense.
And the way the insane and traitorous left has taken to calling CO2 “pollution” (what a friggin’ joke) has prepared the field for their next moves to kill US industry, with or without Congress.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Waxman having sex with Pelosi….doing the work
Americansno other human will do…..Thanks, Henry! The pressures’ off everyone else now….
BobMbx on June 11, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Wait till they find out that oxygen causes those nasty rust stains…….then we’ll really be in trouble.
BobMbx on June 11, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Oh….the beauty of the Constitution shines through all evil….
Congress controls the checkbook……no check = no executive branch program…..take back Congress and we’ll stop the pain. Dead.
Thrust…parry….touche` Pussycat!
BobMbx on June 11, 2009 at 5:06 PM
I have emailed both my senators IMPLORING them to oppose this horrible bill. For heavy ag states like mine, this legislation is, as the man posing as President likes to say, a “boondoggle”.
Cornhusker on June 11, 2009 at 5:11 PM
I think Waxman is the Pig man that Kramer found in the hospital on Seinfeld.
Kramer: I’m tellin’ ya! The pigman is alive. The government’s been experimenting with pigmen since the fifties.
Jerry: Will you stop it. Just because a hospital gets a grant to study DNA doesn’t mean they are creating a race of mutant pigmen.
Kramer: Oh, Jerry. Would you wake up to reality! It’s a military thing. They’re probably creating a whole army of pig warriors.
bryan2369 on June 11, 2009 at 5:12 PM
I know I’m not the only one wondering what Mrs. Waxman looks like . . .
http://tinyurl.com/lvnr7l
califcon on June 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Waxman is simply posing for an illustration of the new car coming from GM next year: “The Waxman”
This beauty will have a huge grill (buck teeth) and giant air intakes on the hood (nostrils). Optional bugers hanging out are $500. Avilable only as a convertable, to complement his shiny head. Instead of new car smell, it will smell like s**t.
The Waxman will run of cap and trade carbon credits, purchased from AlGore, or a new company formed by Waxman and Markey.
Cleveland Steamer on June 11, 2009 at 6:15 PM
The ag issues. In the tax and trade bill, we see that city slickers know more about farming than farmers. The farmers don’t know as much and won’t listen so we tax them. From an agricultural view point, parts of the bill are clear fraud. Other parts are just the government trying to take a cut on food production. If we have dairy products, the government wants 10% of the milk revenue. all this goes up with price to the consumer or the farmer stops producing. He doesn’t want poor people to drink milk. It is cereal or milk. Not both.
To survive in farming, one has to be a student of managing costs and revenues. It looks like many produce products, import salmonella sandwiches because they don’t have taxes built in the price. This tax is actually placing a tarrif on buying american food. A farmer may not have been to law school, but at least they read the bill waxman named and hasn’t read.
seven on June 11, 2009 at 6:15 PM
I swear that guy’s face always reminded me of something. I think you hit it on the nail!
JellyToast on June 11, 2009 at 6:16 PM
This is the joke that our Congress made of this bill. Its a 2.5 min video but worth watching to see what a joke they are and how dumb they think we are. From Capitol Briefing.
mph on June 11, 2009 at 6:30 PM
They are all just disgusting. It infuriates me more than I can say that those clowns laugh and joke around while they push through bills they haven’t even read – bills that steal our property, our liberties and strangle the economy further.
Rae on June 11, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Rae on June 11, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Good website, thanks.
mph on June 11, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Contemptible.
Fallen Sparrow on June 11, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Ya’ll just have to quit worrying about it. Peddle your two wheelers to work under the clear blue sky. Stop by the farmer’s market on the way home. Pick up some locally grown dried beans on the way to your 800 square foot home. I don’t know how you are going to cook them though because the senior senator from Massachusetts stopped construction of the offshore wind turbine farm near his Cape Cod home because it blighted his view, and the local urban planners prohibit the burning of wood or charcoal for cooking purposes because both release greenhouse gasses. But everything is OK because Al Gore has bought his trade off certificates and can burn any fuel he wants in his Cadillac Escalade as he drives to his 40,000 square foot house with the dark shingles on the roof. It’s a wonderful world.
georgeofthedesert on June 12, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Two words for Waxman: Extreme Makeover. OK, two more: electroshock therapy.
bigjack on June 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM
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