You’re fired: Trump cans Miss California; Update: They wanted me to do Playboy, says Prejean
posted at 5:45 pm on June 10, 2009 by Allahpundit
Turns out the beauty queen’s a prima donna. Who knew?
Sigh. I wanted this one to be different.
But it was Trump who gave the final OK to fire her, FOXNews.com has learned.
“I told Carrie she needed to get back to work and honor her contract with the Miss California Organization and I gave her the opportunity to do so,” Trump said in the same documents. “Unfortunately it just doesn’t look like it is going to happen and I offered Keith my full support in making this decision.”…
According to a source, Prejean has aspirations to write a book and pursue other opportunities, which she will be able to do now that she has been released from her duties as Miss California.
I’m tempted to say we got suckered here, but if she was trying to get fired all along, the time to do it would have been last month when she could still claim political martyrdom. Instead she got bagged for insubordination. An e-mail from Prejean to the state pageant director, also via Fox News:
When asked to go through the proper proctol and provide details so events could be set in a master calendar, Prejean responded: “You do not cooperate with me, and you pick and chose the things YOU want me to do. That is not happening anymore. Stop speaking for me. I have MY own voice. What are u gonna do fire me for volunteering for the special olympics hahaha ur crazy No I am doing this appearance. You do not need details. Its for the SPECIAL OLYMPICS!!! You just need to know I will be doing it alright,” before insisting that Miss California officials provide “full security as per her request.”
Said Trump to TMZ, “To me she was the sweetest thing. Everyone else — she treated like s**t.” Exit question one: Is the bloom off the rose? Doesn’t mean she can’t or won’t have her right to dissent on gay marriage defended, but the image of sweet, unassuming Carrie is, I dare say, shattered. Exit question two: Interesting how it was Fox News that dished the dirt on this when it was the Foxies who chased her down for guest-hosting duties. Was the info selectively leaked to FNC to enhance the embarrassment for her? Or did she alienate people there too and this is a measure of revenge?
Update: Carrie fires back. Let the clusterfark continue!
Prejean claims pageant honcho Keith Lewis actually asked her last month if she would take two gigs — appearing on “I’m a Celebrity … Get Me Out of Here!” and Playboy. Prejean says Lewis told her Playboy offered $140,000 for her to pose semi-nude. She rejected both offers.
A few minutes ago we talked to Lewis who said he was not pushing her to take either gig — but merely passing the offers along. Lewis said Prejean had insisted they not turn anything down without running it by her…
Prejean says, “What’s behind this I think is a political debate. They don’t agree with the stance that I took [on Prop 8]. Shana [Moakler] is trying to bash me. They don’t like me. From day one they wanted me out and they got what they wanted.”
Prejean also told us she couldn’t believe Donald Trump would say she treated people in the pageant “like s**t.” For the record, Trump did tell Harvey Levin that on the phone earlier today. Prejean said if Trump really feels that way she’s sorry, adding: “I’ve shown respect for every party involved, even when they haven’t shown it back.”
Er, wasn’t the original pretext for firing her that she posed “semi-nude”? And now, according to her, the pageant itself wanted her to do a semi-nude shoot in Playboy? I’m skeptical.
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I don’t get it. Where’s the heartache?
Oh yeah, and where are the emails that were sent to her?
Darth Executor on June 10, 2009 at 6:23 PM
No, the most shocking things is you mouth all the leftist talking points drivel and you still can’t get a position in the Obama administartion, nor even a blogger position at Huff-N-Puff or even Daily-Koskos-for-Koskos-puffs.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Agreed, 24-hour rule, folks.
What were those events the pageant people wanted her to do and she didn’t?
How much advanced warning did she get about those events? In other words, did someone wait for all the flyers to be printed, etc for one appearance then tell her she had to be somewhere else?
How frequent were the events she was supposed to appear at? Were they deliberately putting her on a tighter or looser schedule than past pageant winners?
Sekhmet on June 10, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Don’t forget that the CA pageant director was a Playboy centerfold – yes, the one who was acting as if Prejean’s pictures were so awful.
progressoverpeace on June 10, 2009 at 6:24 PM
I’d dribble a basketball through a minefield just to hear her fart through a walkie-talkie.
misterpeasea on June 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Gay agenda or her word?
I go with her word.
jukin on June 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM
If you find any religious books that say that – burn them.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM
That wasn’t the point. The desire to destroy her wasn’t because she may or may not be an unpleasant person. It was because she didn’t give an orthodox political opinion. That hasn’t changed.
ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Might want to read the new testament verses about modesty, sensuality, and exploiting people with your attire.
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Wow, Jetboy trying to prove that everyone who doesn’t tow his fascist line is a bad person.
What a surprise.
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 6:27 PM
I’m not convinced she wrote the emails. They’ve been out to get her. I wouldn’t put it past her enemies to trump this up. (no pun intended) I’d like to hear more about this.
texanpride on June 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM
manofaiki on June 10, 2009 at 6:22 PM
I didn’t think anyone with a brain should waste their time with that two-bit ass wipe of a publication to begin with, even before Cimbalo’s deplorable squawking, so . . . yeah.
Ryan Gandy on June 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Prejean/Trump/Ms California smackdown…this will be fun.
There has to be a paper trail that will come dripping out.
cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM
She got Palin’s support because Palin knows what it’s like to be the target of bottom-feeders like yourself.
ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM
I see a movie in this!!
canopfor on June 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Why skeptical, better to pose nude as Ms. California, then little young chick trying to get her foot in the door of a modeling career.
Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM
I prefer to do my own research and come to my own conclusions.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Do people really “talk” like that in emails?
SouthernGent on June 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM
maybe she could head CHRYLSER FIAT????
Nah….way over qualified…
SDarchitect on June 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM
My,my,so many so quick to trash her.
Thanks, but my $$ on her.
katy the mean old lady on June 10, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Isn’t that what I just told you to do?
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Wow. I bet Christina is a feminist too!
Anyway, she probably should have towed the line, but if they were making it miserable, b/c they knew if they did she would go AWOL, then he played her. Sounds like they pushed and she pushed back, but Keith was holding the cards. Sucks for Carrie, but she’ll be ok.
JAM on June 10, 2009 at 6:31 PM
You should see megs mccain/madison conservative’s emails.
LOLZ!
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Who knows, maybe the notoriety got to her head and she thought she could do whatever she wanted. Or, maybe she’s a good girl who got railroaded by a bunch of sex addicted retards. We may never know.
rollthedice on June 10, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Do you find them intellectually threatening?
Reminds me of the HA post yesterday about conservatives being more likely to read opposing views because we’re more secure in our opinions.
jgapinoy on June 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM
What reason would Trump have to lie about Prejean? Obviously Trump gave her chance when everyone was attacking her. He didn’t have anything to gain by giving her a chance first time around.
Christina_M on June 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM
They’ve been gunning for her since she upset the very homely, obnoxious and foul anti-Christians Perez Hilton and Michael Musto. Perez Hilton should have been fired on the spot. Shame on Donald Trump.
sinsing on June 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM
“No no… see I played entirely by the rules and just passed on offers that were made to her because she insisted everything go through her.”
Yeah this just confirms my suspicions that they waited for anything to fire her on and Trump happily trashed her in the press to distance his organization from her.
C’mon, which better promotes the stated values of the Miss USA organization?
An appearance on “I’m a Celebrity … Get Me Out of Here!”
Partial nude shot in Playboy
or appearing at the Special Olympics that she obviously setup to do herself?
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 6:33 PM
I won’t look in that text because I do my own research?
jgapinoy on June 10, 2009 at 6:33 PM
sinsing on June 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM
That
heit was invited back to do the pageant again next year turns my stomach.Ryan Gandy on June 10, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Let’s switch roles here between Carrie Prejean and Perez Hilton. Let us say that men had pageants. It is actually not that much of a stretch because men actually do have “pageants” – think body-building. Let us say that Perez Hilton was a contestant in one of these body-building “pageants”, an expanded one to include some of the addons that women’s pageants have, like where the contestants actually talk rather than just strut and pose. I know it’s a stretch but maybe Perez Hilton had been lifting weights 10 hours a day, 7 days a week for years. Let us say that Carrie Prejean was one of the judges. Why she would reasonably be selected as a judge, I don’t know, but it would be a lot less strange than a gay man being selected to be a judge at women’s pageant.
Now, let us say that judge Carrie Prejean goes off on her own personal agenda and asks Perez Hilton the politically charged question of what he thinks about gay marriage. Perez Hilton then gives a simple, honest answer in a way he hoped would not offend anyone. He probably has at least some idea that it is not the answer that Judge Prejean, with her agenda, wants to hear, but he wants to be honest and not lie to/schmooze the judge/judges. He basically says that he favors it but does not at all criticize those who are against it.
Then Carrie Prejean throws a hizzy fit and marks Perez Hilton with a big F for the whole pageant and proceeds, along with her followers, after the pageant is over, to viciously slur Perez Hilton for it. In response to her slurs, the invasions of his and his family’s privacy, and other ongoing attacks, Perez Hilton does not responded with a single slur against straights, nor does he attack anyone. Instead, he responds graciously and with forgiveness.
For just a couple of so many examples, would David Axelrod have piled on and talked about naming the White House dog Perez with big laughs from the press or would Bill Maher have piled on and gone on the attack against Perez Hilton? What would people have thought if they did?
Anyone [that means you, Jetboy, not TTheoLogan) who does not get the moral of this “story”, I can’t help you, I don’t think anyone can.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:35 PM
You can bet if she was a Leftists she’d be getting the benefit of the doubt. There’d be all kinds of theories about how they set her up to take her out. But, she’s on the Right to some degree so the bloom is off the rose. That’s just how it goes here.
TheBigOldDog on June 10, 2009 at 6:35 PM
If he fired her for giving an honest answer to a question he called into question the entire point of the pageant (that it’s not a sex object thing, it’s about honor, integrity, yadda yadda). He’s also alienate a good chunk of his base.
Now, he placates the homosexual lobby (ooh, she’s bad) while still maintaining the organizations’ integrity.
Win – Win for him.
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Why is Allah jumping to conclusions that she’s a prima donna?
Who released the emails? The pageant people? Hmmm … well I guess she’s a bitch then like they say – certainly they have no reason to hold back any information that might shine a positive light on her. I’m sure if it were their fault – they’d pipe right up about it.
Why were they giving her crap for working with Special Olympics? Yeah – her words are harsh – but … it’s not like she was demanding to appear at Rev. Wright’s church.
Oh wait – that would have been blessed!
HondaV65 on June 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Good point.
Ryan Gandy on June 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM
You got it.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Ya know,somebody should have had Miss Prejean
do a car commercial,like say,for the new Chevy
Camero,
it would sell cars,a win/win scenario!!
canopfor on June 10, 2009 at 6:38 PM
I expect nothing different.
TheBigOldDog on June 10, 2009 at 6:38 PM
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM
And what the sweet frak do you think research is accomplished by doing, looking in your toilet bowl?
Ryan Gandy on June 10, 2009 at 6:38 PM
This was a setup. They wanted her out, so they offered her a job they knew she would turn down and then fired her for not honoring her contract.
Cockroaches.
Trump had this planned all along. He’s smart enough to know that if he had fired her weeks ago when this all broke out, that he was open for a lawsuit, so he made it look like he supported her and then set her up at a later date.
It’s really not that hard to figure out.
Gregor on June 10, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Why would some all powerful being create creatures capable of reason and then somehow expect that they act in a manner contrary to their creation?
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:40 PM
It is here.
TheBigOldDog on June 10, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Because she opposes gay marriage (like Obama and Bill Clinton, to name a few) she’s a “crusader against homosexuals”?
Buy Danish on June 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Practically from the moment that Carrie Prejean answered that question about gay Marriage, she was verbally assaulted, had her privacy invaded, was trashed in the MSM, and treated to the same misogynistic slurs and fantasies that we’ve seen done by Playboy and David Letterman against conservative women.
But now that she’s been fired by the organization that set her up and failed to back her up, we’re to believe them and not her? We’re to believe this isn’t a part of the same campaign against her?
Why should anyone believe people who trashed this woman, or excused her trashing, or simply stood by silently while it was done? The doubts and gloating being expressed seem to fit into the same pattern of abuse and innuendo.
Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM
No, but to each his own I suppose.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Coyoterex, that even gave ME heartburn, and I threw up a little in my mouth thinking about Ja-No’s bath water.
HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Ask Cain about that. Jealousy is a totally human trait.
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM
I hear they’re hiring at Playboy, Bunny. Bad writer needed to be scapegoat for half-dead, whoremaster.
HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM
and the sgaf come out of their hole. <=
redrock on June 10, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Yea, to bad she can’t be such a liberal class act like
Rosie oDonell,Joey Baher,Jenean Garafalo,and Megan Fox.
Where did this come from.
Now she has shattered some persona that someone else labeled her.
I saw her as a strong,independent,sharp,opinionated,gorgeous woman.
Everything liberal women are not.
It is not hard to fire somebody if you really want them gone.
Anybody in management knows that you can set standards and impose policies that will make it impossible for somebody to stay employed.
“your 5 minutes late.
That’s your third time.
Your outta here.”
She is probably glad to be gone and does have many opportunities awaiting her.
If she comes off bitter or defensive in her E-mails,it probably has a lot to do with dealing with people who have done nothing but undermine her combined with the hatred and bigotry she has experienced from the media and other outlets.
My hope is that she comes out a winner and on top after all of this for her sake,and for the point of not allowing hateful bigots that make up the liberal groups in this country to get any satisfaction from their smear campaign.
Baxter Greene on June 10, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Once you spot Trump as the dog he is, it all falls into place.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Jetboy hates and maligns anyone who doesn’t tow his fascist line.
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM
You better buy yourself some flowers, MB.
HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM
140 grand for Carrie Prejean to get nude? Didn’t they give Jessica Hahn millions? That offer was an insult.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Who cares? She could do much bigger things anyway.
therightwinger on June 10, 2009 at 6:48 PM
You’re kidding right? The Donald…controversy…unending publicity…
And he didn’t even have to lie. The whole thing could have been contrived by the Miss California organization. Lots of assignments they knew she would reject, remarks that could be misconstrued (or outright taken out of context) other things not quite as salacious by themselves, but when put together…or it could all be her doing. Regardless, Trump gets the publicity.
Yeah, this could turn out to be really fun. All sides will have a story and their allies to keep this going. Just so long as there is paper to go with it.
If it looks like Prejean is right, Trump could come back are fire the Miss California pageant board. And get more publicity.
cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Put not your faith in princesses.
nk on June 10, 2009 at 6:50 PM
I’d still crawl a mile on my stomach across broken glass and razor blades in order to stand in line to put my testicles in a blender just to get a chance to drink her bath water……..
Seven Percent Solution on June 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM
.
Don’t hold back…..please tell us how you really feel.
BTW: She has me @ Hello.
Americannodash on June 10, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Wow, sounds like megs is out of lip gloss again.
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 6:52 PM
You should just assume all hot chicks are evil.
Speedwagon82 on June 10, 2009 at 6:52 PM
One really must question the logic of having faith in an all-powerful, all-good God who creates grossly defective creatures and then blames them for his own screwups.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:52 PM
I’m still here for you, babe!
yubley on June 10, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Jetbaby does not come across as smart enough to even have his own “line”.
Sounds like one of the typical liberal sheep who praise the Hillary Clinton’s and Elizabeth Edward’s as “real” women while they play sloppy seconds to any woman that their husbands can get their hands on.
Baxter Greene on June 10, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Ha! He had oodles of publicity to gain, but what “lie” are you talking about? C.P. didn’t accuse Trump of lying, she expressed disbelief.
Buy Danish on June 10, 2009 at 6:53 PM
The ones I keep getting from you in the mail are good enough. It’s the thought that counts.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:54 PM
I’ve asked you multiple times to stop responding to me if your only responses are trolling. Once more: knock it off.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 6:54 PM
So in other words, you believe in punishing a 60 year old man when his 30 year old son kills his girlfriend after getting dumped.
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 6:54 PM
A naked picture was worth a lot more back in Jessica’s day, when they could actually sell print copies at the newsstand.
dedalus on June 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Never had your child do bad things on ya?
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 6:57 PM
TTheo & Baxter,
Having had several “HA-conversations” with him, I think JetBoy is generally reasonable & thoughtful. Yes, he’s sadly mistaken about the mixing of homosexuality & Christianity, but he seems to be a nice guy.
jgapinoy on June 10, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Absurd.
Can any right minded person think that the Miss California people WANTED her to pose for Playboy?
Carrie blew it with that one.
Too bad, I was with her in her support of Prop 8 but she looks clueless now.
The Final Cut on June 10, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Well, those certainly are other words. Are they ever.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Just to remind everyone- we are talking about a woman who did little more than take part in a BEAUTY PAGENT, take part in topless photoshoots, get breast implants, and contributed next to nothing to anything.
I’m sure she’s great and all, and the whole Christian/anti-gay marriage attacks were ridiculous, but does anyone really want to go out of their way to back this sort of girl? I’m sure we could find literally millions of people who would be better spokespersons for the cause.
Did ANYONE on the entire planet ever even care what her opinion was on gay marriage? Sorry, but after a woman with breast implants popping out of a tiny bikini struts around in a “who’s the prettiest contest,” I sorta don’t give a crap what she thinks on any important matter.
TheBlueSite on June 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM
I always blame
his mommyself.MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 7:01 PM
If it’s between taking the word of a woman who boldly stood for marriage in front of a huge and somewhat hostile audience or the bureaucratic and corrupt Miss California organization I’ll take the word of the babe.
Trump is known to be a jerk anyways.
True_King on June 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Probably what it comes down to. The job of being Miss California probably entails micromanagement from the organization while appearing at a lot of non-glamorous events. For most Miss Cali’s that is the only exposure they have available. Carrie could book her own gigs and negotiate her own compensation and accomodations. There is a lot of room for conflict between her and an organization that is used to having a monopoly on the pageant winner.
dedalus on June 10, 2009 at 7:06 PM
ODIN! Hear my call
My soul belongs to thee
FIRE! On my sword
Will bequeath victory
Brother Loki carries the flame
And Thor throws down the light and rain
Upon the dragon-boats, we will the treacherous Trump assail
The Norsemen’s battle-call does wail
Storming ashore with torch in hand
Claiming back our cherished pageant land
To one day, view the Cosmic Tree
And hang from it, the same as he
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Why so many words people? She’s Hot. He gone!
trustreagan on June 10, 2009 at 7:08 PM
She is out of bondage. All day long they planned to create conflict and push her buttons.
seven on June 10, 2009 at 7:09 PM
:)
HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 7:09 PM
was’nt there a booze guzzelling pot smoking beauty queen or
contestant last year that trump went to the mat for?
doorslinger on June 10, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Yes, but she stated an unpopular opinion on network prime time. For some, in this desolate, hedonistic, passionless age…that’s enough.
I really wish I’d been born about 20 years earlier.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Sorry Carrie but hate and meanness are not Christian values.
Lose the attitude and the judgementalism.
SouthernGal on June 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM
FIFY.
TMK on June 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Quite the paradox, isn’t it?
Buy Danish on June 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM
The next time you’re in desperate need of indifference and moral equivocation, remember your own words.
Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 7:19 PM
You’re not judgmental in the least, are you?
Buy Danish on June 10, 2009 at 7:20 PM
who wasn’t a prima donna at 21? gimme a break -
Ris4victory on June 10, 2009 at 7:20 PM
I suspect that the Donald propositioned her to be wife number four(or is it five?)and she had the gall to turn him down.
Well she did express interest on Hannity about being a Victoria Secret angel. I’d rather look at the VS catalogue than Playboy anyway–no left-wing propaganda articles.
OlympicLeprechaun on June 10, 2009 at 7:21 PM
I appreciate your response, but as you can see in this thread, he is, in fact, completely intolerant to those who do not agree with him on the issue of homosexuality. If you don’t believe me, I’d encourage you to search through occurrences of him saying “bigot” “homophob[ic]” “hateful” etc every time the issue of homosexual marriage comes up.
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Happens all the time. One way or the other “they” will ensure that you either get fired or quit.
Caper29 on June 10, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Megs, you really need to look up the definition of “trolling.” You can’t paint everything you disagree with as “trolling.”
TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Actually, most now dead guys make a lot more sense than most of those still technically alive.
BTW, I am a beer man myself. Hold the straw.
MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 7:23 PM
How is she a prima donna? I understand if she was fired for insubordination, that’s their right to make that decision. She did sign the contract and should abide by it. But then I look at the insubordination as wanting to do other things one of them being a volunteer for the Special Olympics?!? I have to wonder.
By no means a prima donna. She wasn’t requesting special treatment, she just wanted to the things she wanted to do.
xax on June 10, 2009 at 7:24 PM
That is why you never get any and will fail to pass on your DNA.
Seriously though, ignore the pretexts because they simply pretexts. Followth the motives. Trump is all about the publicity and no cat fight is too small for him if it gets him some press. Not firing then firing Prejean is the best way to keep the publicity going.
dKap on June 10, 2009 at 7:29 PM
I still can’t care less about her.
lexhamfox on June 10, 2009 at 7:30 PM
I watched the press conference, and Shanon Moklar, or whatever her name is, was beyond seething. The next day she resigned. I would bet this woman was involved or at the very least fueling the fire.
I am with Gregor in thinking Trump could not fire her when this was all over the media or he would have looked really bad.
This happens after the Guy Cimbalo mess last week, and David Letterman’s assault on the Palin family. One would think the Left has gone certifiably mad when it comes to Conservative women. I think they fear us more than you white males! It also appears that if you are a Conservative female, you should feel a chilling impact on your rights to free speech.
This would have never happened if she had been a wise Latina woman!
P.S. HornetSting, glad to see you back on HA more often and hope you are feeling much better!
freeus on June 10, 2009 at 7:33 PM
I don’t often visit casinos, but I plan to inform the Donald that when I do, I will studiously avoid anything even remotely connected with him. (I already boycott his TV show).
either orr on June 10, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Sorry Carrie but hate and meanness are not Christian values.
Lose the attitude and the judgementalism.
SouthernGal on June 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM
.
I’ve read your comments on other post here @ HA. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. My opinion of you is that you are not right in the head. Your concept of what Free market is not in alignment with Milton Freidman? Your brain is far left and any statement from you should be taken after you’ve been given truth serum. Judgement indeed. Do you also follow Maureen Dowd and her views?
Americannodash on June 10, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Okay, here’s some dedguy wisdom for you:
The word “naked” comes from the Greek gumnos, which was used by the Greeks to describe various states of undress, Peter here being clad only in undergarments (lacking his “coat”) while working in the water with other doods. It is equivalent to the Hebrew word `eryah for nakedness, literally meaning shame or poverty.
By wearing only a bikini, essentially the same as Peter’s undergarments, this girl has “exposed her breasts and thighs,” which is shameful (Exodus 20:26; 28:42; Isaiah 47:3) and she is therefore naked by God’s standards.
TMK on June 10, 2009 at 7:46 PM
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