White supremacist kills guard at Holocaust Museum
posted at 4:39 pm on June 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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An 89-year-old white supremacist attacked guards at the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC today, killing one guard before taking a bullet himself. James Von Brunn, well-known in the lunatic fringe that is white supremacism, had attempted a similar attack in 1981 at the Federal Reserve, and had been on the radar screens of watchdogs for years:
The suspect in Wednesday’s shooting at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum is James von Brunn, an 88-year-old white supremacist from Maryland, two law enforcement officials told CNN.
Von Brunn served six years in prison on federal attempted kidnapping, assault and firearms charges after what he called a “legal, nonviolent citizens arrest” of members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.
On his Web site, “Holy Western Empire,” von Brunn said he was “convicted by a Negro jury, Jew/Negro attorneys, and sentenced to prison for eleven years by a Jew judge.”
“He is in our files going back way into the 1980s,” said Heidi Beirich, a researcher for the Montgomery, Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.
“He has extremely long history with neo-Nazis and white supremacists. He’s written extremely incendiary publications, raging about Jews, blacks and the like.”
Yet again, we have a despicable attack based on hatred and political extremism, the third such attack in two weeks to result in fatalities. Doubtless many people will try to find ways to score political points, like the e-mailer who waited a whole 20 minutes to blame conservatives for dismissing the DHS report on right-wing extremism for this tragedy. To that, I’d respond that our criticism was that the DHS report didn’t focus on known, specific threats, instead making generalized threats about abortion opponents and other vague and broad generalizations about conservative issues. In fact, it never mentioned Holocaust denial at all, nor did it mention anti-semitism at all [see Update V below], either; those terms don’t appear at all in the report. And despite being well-known as a threat since the 1980s, the DHS never bothered to identify von Brunn or his organization as a specific threat in the report — which, again, was the heart of our criticism.
Michelle notes that one prominent blogger on the Left is already twittering that the Tea Party movement is to blame for the attack, which is as nutty an observation as anything I’ve heard. What do the anti-tax Tea Parties have to do with anti-Semitism? Only in the fevered imaginations of the most extreme on the Left can they imagine that groups calling for less government have something in common with neo-Nazis. And it certainly wasn’t a conservative talking about Jewish conspiracies in government earlier today.
People who commit crimes bear the entire responsibility for those crimes. Assigning guilt, real or imagined, to groups rather than individuals for their own actions is one of the reasons we have to have a Holocaust Memorial at all. It’s the kind of thinking that leads to genocide when allowed to run to run to its extreme.
Meanwhile, our prayers go to the family of the murdered guard and all who were traumatized by this shooting, which is where our thoughts should be, rather than political fingerpointing.
Update: Kathy Shaidle reports on von Brunn’s ideology, which was hardly “conservative” or even “right wing”. He was also a Truther. That doesn’t make all Truthers responsible for this attack, either.
Update II: As Mary Katharine Ham and Brian Faughnan said on Twitter, Godspeed, Stephen Tyrone Johns:
Update: My meaning was that white supremacism is lunatic fringe, but some people misunderstood it. I;ve rewritten the sentence for more clarity.
Update IV: Tommy Christopher:
Now, where does that leave Wright and Von Brunn? While their actions are, by no means, equivalent, Wright’s comment betrays a bigotry toward Jews that would seem right at home in Von Brunn’s repertoire. But, put to Clouthier’s voting booth test, how do we divvy these two up?
The answer is, we don’t. If we do, we do so at our own peril. While we waste time playing “pin the tail on the ideology,” we distract from the real enemies of freedom, who reside neither on the Right nor the Left, but beneath them.
Exactly.
Update V: I wrote that the report didn’t mention anti-Semitism, but it actually did. It talked about anti-Semitic extremists. I did a search on “semitism” and not “Semitic”, and I should have done both. Sloppy work. I apologize.
Update VI: Balloon Juice’s John Cole calls this the dumbest thing he’s read on the internet:
Anyone want to explain some of the many reasons why they might not have released the names of people under investigation by various federal agencies in an openly published DHS report (notwithstanding the central fact that identifying specific threats was not the intent of the damned thing in the first place)?
Gee, John, then why did the report on left-wing extremism actually name the groups that posed a threat?
(U//FOUO) DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines leftwing extremists as groups or individuals who embrace radical elements of the anarchist, animal rights, or environmental movements and are often willing to violate the law to achieve their objectives. Many leftwing extremist groups are not hierarchically ordered with defined members, leaders, or chain of command structures but operate as loosely-connected underground movements composed of “lone wolves,” small cells, and splinter groups.
— (U//LES) Animal rights and environmental extremists seek to end the perceived abuse and suffering of animals and the degradation of the natural environment perpetrated by humans. They use non-violent and violent tactics that, at times, violate criminal law. Many of these extremists claim they are conducting these activities on behalf of two of the most active groups, the Animal Liberation Front and its sister organization, the Earth Liberation Front. Other prominent groups include Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty; and chapters within the Animal Defense League, and Earth First!.
— (U//FOUO) Anarchist extremists generally embrace a number of radical philosophical components of anticapitalist, antiglobalization, communist, socialist, and other movements. Anarchist groups seek abolition of social, political, and economic hierarchies, including Western-style governments and large business enterprises, and frequently advocate criminal actions of varying scale and scope to accomplish their goals. Anarchist extremist groups include entities within Crimethinc, the Ruckus Society, and Recreate 68.
Again, had the DHS focused on actual threats, then von Brunn — who had already committed a violent attack on the Federal Reserve and who was well known to the SLPC — and his organization might have been highlighted. Not to mention that the report is supposed to help law enforcement identify actual threats, not have them play guessing games and encourage them to spy on normal political activity.
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C’mon – it’s not like the guy was a military veteran or anything, so why would Uncle Janet’s DHS bother identifying him or his organization?
/s
thirteen28 on June 10, 2009 at 4:43 PM
NRO quotes Lileks as saying the fact that we need armed guards at a Holocaust Museum is a reason we need a Holocaust Museum.
Wethal on June 10, 2009 at 4:44 PM
This guy has been in the radar for 28 years, and yet still managed to do this?
Someone in law enforcement dropped the ball here.
Del Dolemonte on June 10, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Yes indeed, prayers for the guard, his family, and the wounded.
L
letget on June 10, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I dare not imagine what Emmanuel and Axelrod have in store for us regarding the Tea Parties, but I know it looms large on their minds.
petefrt on June 10, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I hate it when people use these things for political purposes. Perhaps they should be using their energy to remember those that died and pray for them.
deidre on June 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Yet none of these idjits would blame Rev. Wright or Farakan.
Laura in Maryland on June 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM
That truly is a sad statement on this world.
My prayers are with the people who were there, the wounded and their families, and the dead person’s family. What a tragedy.
Weird how the white supremist and Rev. Wright think about the same about Jews,hmmm?
mjk on June 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM
This has already received more media coverage than the Arkansas shooting.
artist on June 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM
It’s a sad day.
The Guards did great by defending the Museum. Many more could have been killed.
portlandon on June 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM
That’s a little redundent, don’t you think?
DethMetalCookieMonst on June 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Anyone remember the Islamo-Fascist that killed the Army Recruiter in Arkansas last week? Didn’t think so.
kirkill on June 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Don’t worry. The other left blogs are going crazy enough.
DU: I officially ACCUSE FreeRepublic, Glen Beck, O’reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Scarborough, Rove
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM
89 or not this guy needs to get the maximum possible penalty.
johnsteele on June 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM
No doubt because it’s primarily the left that fall into those categories.
FloatingRock on June 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM
It’s going to keep getting worse. The Jews have a huge target on their backs. Again.
Between this guy, the Arab league, the Cairo speech, Rev. Wright, increasing Anti-Semitism in the world, we are truly back in the 1930’s.
Life is a cabaret, old chum?
mjk on June 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM
That is the mantra of the left and the current government — nothing is EVER the fault of the person who committed a crime, didn’t save money for a rainy day, buys a house he can’t afford, etc. It’s the corollary to spread the wealth — spread the blame.
Kel-C on June 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Bottom line is that we can’t countenance the Alex Jones, Truther, Illumanti, Libertarian to the Max nutjobs that are appendages to the so called “right.”
Most of the anti-semitic nuts are actually on the left with the Free Palestine fringe groups but we have this problem too.
AYNBLAND on June 10, 2009 at 4:48 PM
What annoys me here is that Shep was using this to justify the DHS report, in a sort of “looks like they were right” kind of way, speaking of disgruntled vets… The problem is, the report was talking about vets returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. Not 89 year old WWII vets who are known white supremacists and who’ve done time in federal prison.
Shep kept reading emails from people calling him out and he was mocking them all. Very, very annoying.
RightWinged on June 10, 2009 at 4:48 PM
My thoughts exactly. They’re apparently too busy mocking up reports and not actually stopping people who have been ticking time bombs for three decades.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 4:48 PM
one prominent blogger on the Left is already twittering that the Tea Party movement is to blame for the attack,
Well, since they can do it, I can too:
Obama (BPUH)(SWT)(SAW) and his fellow Anti-American/Anti-Semitic/Anti-White/Pro-Jihadi Racist Leftist Traitor Democratic Nutbags ARE responsible for this, for stirring up hatred against Jews, the Blantant Anti-Semiticism of his ENTIRE Administration, his Surrender and Anti-Semitic speech in Cairo, etc.!
See, how easy it is!
FACT is, there’s more truth to my comments, than anything the Anti-American/Anti-Semitic Democratic Traitor Left & Obama (PBUH) can ever come up with!
Dale in Atlanta on June 10, 2009 at 4:49 PM
It is very lucky that more people were not shot. What would have happened if this idiot came in there on a Saturday.
I wonder what this guy was up to and why he does it on a Wednesday afternoon.
I don’t think he was all that crazy about christians either according to MM site.
I’m glad the guard took him out before he could kill others, a brave man.
kangjie on June 10, 2009 at 4:50 PM
These are the same morons who think Bill Ayers did nothing to go to prison for.
Speedwagon82 on June 10, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Why couldn’t they just have tasered the guy? Why did the guards escalate the situation by firing their sidearms. The guy is like 90, how much harm could he have done? /sarc
That’s gonna start trouble…
Seriously though:
Deserves repeating.
darclon on June 10, 2009 at 4:50 PM
http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun10,0,7603283.story
Proof, by the way!
Dale in Atlanta on June 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM
When did denying the Holocaust become right-wing? Is there some memo I didn’t get?
JohnJ on June 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM
I’ll assume this guy will get terrorism charges thrown at him, rather than murder. Private Long’s murderer got the same. Tiller’s on the other hand…
ernesto on June 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM
The nuttiest thing I have heard so far whas Shep Smith on Fox News linking this to obama’s birth certificate. WTF!
Literally equating a NAZI who decides to go on a rampage with people who want simply want the Constitution to be adhered to and for the president to stop preventing the release of the only document that will end the debate.
Shep was working overtime and also managed to work in multiple bolstering comments to the “now proved,” DHS report. Full hysterical propoganda mode. UUUUGGGHHHH I had to turn the TV off it was so nauseating.
America1st on June 10, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Wait a minute…isn’t this DC, where recently handgun bans were lifted?
Can someone explain why this guy then went with a rifle? I believe we were told that with the Heller decision that DC would become the Wild West.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Very likely into Odin and all that deals with Norse religion.
DethMetalCookieMonst on June 10, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Apparently he was a Nirhter and had posts on Free Republic – which have been pulled – questioning the President’s birth certificate and all that loon garbage.
Shep, Mike Baker and Katherine Herridge discussed this and the DHS report earlier on Fox.
These DHS reports were started under Bush, which I didn’t know.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM
BTW, I say that because a lot of white supremists are Odinists (or whatever you call them).
DethMetalCookieMonst on June 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM
If we had taken the DHS report seriously this could have been stopped
equality on June 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM
I think this nut was embolden by Obama’s anti-Israel stance.
txag92 on June 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Line him up next to that muslim F#$% from last week and I will pull the trigger.
sonofdy on June 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM
‘Bout time we got a blog post, vs. a headline. To sum up my previous comments, before the headline thread goes away:
1) The shooter was clearly part of the right-wing fringe.
2) There exists such a thing as right-wing socialism.
3) Nazism is one among several forms of right-wing socialism.
4) Although the shooter was right-wing, he had next to nothing in common with mainstream Republicans, and likely hated them too.
5) Both the extreme left and the extreme right hate Jews; thus antisemitism by itself is not a litmus test as to one’s orientation on the political spectrum.
I will also add a new comment:
6) The shooter has much more in common with certain elements of conservatism than most commenters here would care to admit. This is why they are attempting to pass him off as a leftist.
hicsuget on June 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Hats off to the security guards who took immediate action and brought down this nutjob before he could do any harm to the thousands of tourists in that building.
They stepped up big time. Bravo.
fogw on June 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Really? Right-wingers these days are very pro-Israel. Since this guy apparently hated Jews, how do you figure?
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Satan works in un-mysterious ways, but people still want to ignore him.
Odds are good that a liberal left-wing lawyer will defend this guy, if he lives…
kirkill on June 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM
The nuttiest thing I have heard so far whas Shep Smith on Fox News linking this to obama’s birth certificate. WTF!Literally equating a NAZI who decides to go on a rampage with people who want simply want the Constitution to be adhered to and for the president to stop preventing the release of the only document that will end the debate.
Shep was working overtime and also managed to work in multiple bolstering comments to the “now proved,” DHS report. Full hysterical propoganda mode. UUUUGGGHHHH I had to turn the TV off it was so nauseating.
America1st on June 10, 2009 at 4:52 PM
The shooter had Nirther posts on Free Republic – he was one of those birth certificate loons aside from being a jew and black hater.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM
What’d you want to do… he served his time. He broke the law by owning a gun. You want 24 hour surveillance on him or lock him up?
We live in a free society and that, STILL, has some meaning.
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM
whoops – meant to backquote your post, not cross it out.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Shep Smith on Fox has already used this to Dis the right.
Basicly saying the DHS report was correct… even read an “email” from someone who accused Obama of being a non citizen moving us towards Socialism…
Basicly used the equation of… this guy who wrote this is a wacko, and he does not like Obama, therefore, by extension, anyone who does not like Obama is a wacko…
Romeo13 on June 10, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Well-said.
Buy Danish on June 10, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Moral equivalance has destroyed the liberal mind from being able to think rationally.
kirkill on June 10, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Absolutely true, he hated blacks, Acorn, Obama and the Federal Reserve.
Liberals do not hate these think generally.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 4:57 PM
On at least some of his yahoo e-mails, he signed them:
James von Brunn-88
http://WWW.HOLYWESTERNEMPIRE.ORG
88 is code for HH, or Heil Hitler.
Realist on June 10, 2009 at 4:57 PM
How many conservatives support palestinian liberation like this guy did?
I’d say he has much more in common with Rev. Wright than conservatives.
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Ralph Peters was on Niel Cavuto’s show calling the guy “right-wing”. That may once have been accurate early in the last centure but by that same logic as applied today, most of us here would occupy the left wing in that same context, in the sense that we’re basically classical liberals. It’s the progressives, which are in truth regressives, that would share the “right-wing ” with lowlifes like the shooter, if any political label is applicable at all, which I doubt. People like this might be considered right-wing because they’re paranoid about big government, but that’s largely because they think that “jews” and/or whatever groups that are the subjects of their hate control the government, not because they’re classical liberals that support freedom, liberty and equality.
FloatingRock on June 10, 2009 at 4:57 PM
This is HotAir not Daily Kos. Are you lost? Can I call your mommy for you.
fogw on June 10, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Not just e-mailers, but now some left wing bloggers are trying to claim that this vindicates the DHS report as well. (Why do some of these people keep insisting that big government Nazis were “right wing”)
What an idiot.
forest on June 10, 2009 at 4:58 PM
I see…. so I guess since I also want to see Obamas birth cert, and citizenship, and passport papers (especialy from Indonesia)… I must be a Jew hating Nazi who is going to go Postal as well….
How… interesting…
Romeo13 on June 10, 2009 at 4:59 PM
wrong, and wronger.
homesickamerican on June 10, 2009 at 4:59 PM
You’re correct that the left is already trying to turn this into some political advantage; the talking points are that “he was a tea-bagger”…
May God rest Stephen Johns soul and grace his family with the comfort and strength they need in their time of grief.
RocketmanBob on June 10, 2009 at 4:59 PM
The Far Right Wing is not generally pro Israel – at all. They are not pro Muslim either. They tend to be very anti Middle Eastern. You guys seem to not get that.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM
hicsuget on June 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM
This is HotAir not Daily Kos. Are you lost? Can I call your mommy for you.
fogw on June 10, 2009 at 4:58 PM
A new troll to add to the list. I wonder what hicsuget’s expiration date will be.
txag92 on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM
It’s been right-wing at least since the Nuremberg Trials–it became left-wing more recently. It is reassuring to hear that you’re not on the distro list, though.
hicsuget on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM
The Far Right Wing is not generally pro Israel – at all. They are not pro Muslim either. They tend to be very anti Middle Eastern. You guys seem to not get that.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Another troll. Good grief.
txag92 on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM
I don’t understand how that is even relevant. I am a Veteran and if another veteran commits an ideologically based crime it still make me no more likely to do so. You can’t control what thought overlaps there are between extremist groups and regular people so you can’t condemn an entire group for the actions of a single person. Heck even Hitler liked dogs, I like dogs, I must be likely to want to kill Jews.
dpierson on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM
hicsuget, when you define a people who supports socialism, large goverment and side with Islamists as “right wing” – you define them that way only because they are also anti-semites.
Eather you think anti-semitism is one of natural right-wing traits, or you are just being incoherent in your thought process.
Aristotle on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Does this, and the shooting of the soldier at the recruiting station last week, not show the futility of treating terrorism as a law enforcement problem? Both perpetrators were known to law-enforcement authorities. And yet,in each case, no agency would act preemptively. First a murder had to occur and then action was taken. Which is better, to get a conviction sending an 89 year-old ex-con back to the joint, or to prevent the murder of a security guard or soldier?
potkas7 on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM
who supports=who support
Aristotle on June 10, 2009 at 5:01 PM
I bet that was Shepard Smith. I, too, had to turn the channel after his linking of this to the birth certifi-gate. He deserves a prime time slot on MSNBC. His guest had to remind him about the MUSLIM extremist who just shot two uniformed US soldiers just for wearing their uniforms! Shep didn’t really cover that one the way he’s covering this, though.
Also:
That quote could be in reference to Jeremiah Wright, you know, our precedent’s father figure and mentor.
NTWR on June 10, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Who said that? Oh you did.
I merely stated the facts of what he posted over in the fever swamp.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Gosh. I guess that was a right wing president who put his shoe up on his desk as a Middle Eastern sign of derision while talking to Benjamin Netanyahu on the phone.
Waitasec…
kingsjester on June 10, 2009 at 5:01 PM
He’s not a leftist, but he’s not a right-winger by the same token. Racism falls on both sides of the aisle(Southern Dems on the left), but the anti-semitic attitudes aren’t clear-cut either. Considering conservatives are very pro-Israel, and many liberals are pro-Palestine, both sides’ fringes could claim this lunatic.
Lefties routinely paint the right as Nazis, and with Jonah Goldberg’s book Liberal Fascism, turnabout has, unfortunately, become fair play.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Stupid, and stupider. Cf: Particular Forms of Socialism.
hicsuget on June 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Ahemm, Jeremiah Wright is a far cry from the Stormfront.org crew.
No comparison.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM
When we have bad times economically, you are going to see a lot of fringe people looking for someone to blame. They never hold themselves accountable because it is always shadowy, powerful figures that is the cause of their particular plight. White or black they’re all the same.
Vince on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM
For a year or two, I’ve been wishing FNC would switch Shep to a late night time slot. But imbecilic comments like this are changing my mind. Time for Shep to find another network.
petefrt on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM
RIP Stephen Tyrone Johns.
Lance Murdock on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Obama disses Israel as a matter of foreign policy, so a white supremacist shoots up the Holocaust Museum and U.S. conservatism is blamed? Did I get that right?
BigD on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Isn’t it fascinating that not 2 months after a Homeland Security report warning of right wing attacks we get not one but two blatant, highly public stereotyped “right wing” attacks after practically nothing since the Oklahoma bombing?
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM
::sigh::
reaganaut on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM
I’ve been here for years, thanks.
hicsuget on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Umm, as someone constantly called “far right wing” by everyone from my friends to J-Nap, who is a huge supporter of Israel, I say you’re full of crap.
NTWR on June 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM
I’ve been here for years, thanks.
hicsuget on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM
And you’re just now showing your stupidity?
txag92 on June 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM
We get that just fine. However, you’re conveniently ignoring the fact that fringe lefties, particularly neo-commies, routinely shriek in favor of Palestine and Hamas, and support people like Dinner Jacket. That makes them no more pro-Israel than the neo-Birchers.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Is there any evidence that this nut was a right-winger? Because there’s a lot more anti-Semitism on the Left than on the Right.
itsnotaboutme on June 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Why try to link him to a “side”? Can’t he be a stand alone idiot?
Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Lesse…
Stormfront. White Power, hates Jews, hates America.
Rev. Write. Black Power, hates Jews, hates America.
Yeah… no comparison.
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Yes, yes. I have SOO much in common with this nutjob.
1. I’m a Zionist
2. I’d kick Hitler in the nether regions, just for the heck of it.
3. I’ve visited Israel and have many friends from there.
4. I demonstrated in favor of Israel
5. I’ve participated in Shoah remembrances.
6. I vote for people regardless of their race, religion, etc, etc.
Oh wait, I have nothing in common with him.
I guess some people here are stupid enough to deal in idiotic and childish stereotypes. (looking at you April and hics, you morons)
mjk on June 10, 2009 at 5:05 PM
White supremacist are right wingers. They are against minorities (blacks, hispanics, jews etc..) They believe the only pure race is the white race and the Jewish man is trying to undermine them. Hitler was a right wing white supremacists so is this man
equality on June 10, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Since when do we see these types – like this shooter posting at the HuffPo and Kos??
He posts at Free Republic because he is a Far Rightie.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 5:05 PM
The Far Right Wing is not generally pro Israel – at all.
We are anti Middle Eastern jihadist terrorist, and proud of it.
Other than that, I think your crystal ball is due for a tune-up.
fogw on June 10, 2009 at 5:05 PM
My understanding is that early in the 20th century Hitler was called right wing. The left continues to label racists “right-wing” even though modern political labels have reversed in the interum. Classical liberals, (conservatives), are now considered to be on the right and “progressives”, which are basically socialists/fascists, (by the standards of early in the 20th century), are now considered left wing.
FloatingRock on June 10, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Should have come with a warning: Will transport you to a place where people have their heads so far up their ass , the only way they can see is through their glass navals.
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on June 10, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Sure, and Farrakhan is a nice dude compared to David Duke.
And to think this is coming from lefties who perfected moral equivalence and gloated over Obama’s comparison of Holocaust and Fakestinian “suffering”.
Aristotle on June 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM
I didn’t say he was a conservative; just that he was right-wing. The biopic on him at the Washington Post gives the following information:
Let’s call a spade a spade, guys.
hicsuget on June 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM
This has already received more media coverage than the Arkansas shooting.
artist on June 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM
because white men and men and women that serve their country are what’s to blame for all the ills in the world. wake up already!
Ghoul aid on June 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Apparently like you wouldn’t believe…this is a cut/paste from Ace’s:
Israel’s Channel One TV reported that Netanyahu was told Tuesday by an “American official” in Jerusalem that, “We are going to change the world. Please, don’t interfere.” The report said Netanyahu’s aides interpreted this as a “threat.”
President Ghoul.
Patrick S on June 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM
I agree he absolutely should get whatever the max is, regardless of his age. At the same time though, I feel pity for him. It is so sad to me, to live 89 years with that much hate in your heart.
macblanegirl on June 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM
In North America and Europe, most Holocaust deniers are wannabe fascists. The broad misconception is that fascism is conservatism run amok, when it is in fact a variant of the extreme left.
ProfessorMiao on June 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Exactly.
The Far Left embraces Acorn and believes all should be treated equality and if not the playing field should be altered.
The Far Right rails against that. And everyone here knows that.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Stupid liberal logic: When Obama associates with an admitted terrorist the association means nothing. Both parties entered into the association willingly. When Obama associates with an anti-American, anti-Semite preacher that association means nothing. Both parties entered into the association willing.
BUT
When someone share some of the same beliefs as conservatives that is evidence to that fact that all conservatives are just one step away from committing hate crimes. Plus the association is not mutual as I have no control over class themselves conservative or attends a tea party.
Plus Shep is an idiot, why even bother listing in to him, he should be on TMZ
dpierson on June 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Oh, FFS people.
Why in the hell does he have to be labelled as far right-wing or far-left wing.
He’s a dirtbag, wacko murderer, and someone has lost their life today.
Any of you idiots here trying to play coy with inuendo and trying to polticize this already, are scum of the freaking earth.
Ya, I said it. I can’t tell you how much people manage to disgust me these days.
Poor excuses for human beings.
reaganaut on June 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM
hicsuget already lost the debate about a killer who is obviously a leftist, anti-everything rightwing, and a pro-Islamic terrorist Truther to boot. Now she’s just trying to pepper the barn with buckshot and hopes Farmer John will blame the neighbor kids.
TMK on June 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Exactly, another good point.
They hate the libs big time.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 5:10 PM
So true (that this is already receiving more attention than the recruiter shooting), sad, and sickening. Dude, where’s my country?
NTWR on June 10, 2009 at 5:10 PM
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