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Video: Ziegler gets his mike cut off by MS-NBC

posted at 1:15 pm on June 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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If you want to see irony in action, watch as the “tingle up the leg” and the “Obama is sort of like God” network challenge John Ziegler on his credibility. Contessa Brewer doesn’t want to actually talk about the subject – David Letterman’s two attacks on Palin’s 14-year-old daughter – but wants to make the interview about Ziegler instead. John has his own idea about what he wants to say, which is when Brewer demands that his mike get silenced:

RealClearPolitics reports (from John) that MS-NBC pulled a bait-and-switch on him. Norah O’Donnell was supposed to be his interviewer, who has interviewed John in the past. For some reason, they threw Brewer at him, who clearly wanted to keep John on a tight leash.  Brewer had no interest in talking about the topic at hand (Letterman), but in trying to zing Palin and John’s interview of her.

I’d call this red meat for everyone. The Left can cheer Brewer for her manhandling of Ziegler, while the rest of us can point out that (a) everyone at MS-NBC knows that Ziegler criticizes their coverage every chance he gets, and (b) they invited him, and not the other way around.

Besides, MS-NBC is the absolutely last media organization that can level charges of “cheerleading” at anyone else in the industry.  Have they canned Evan Thomas for calling Obama “sort of God” or Chris Matthews for his “tingle up my leg”?  When they do that, then Contessa Brewer can sniff at John Ziegler for a lack of journalistic objectivity.

Update: On a related note, Tommy Christopher rips David Letterman:

There’s a whole lot of justified outrage going on about David Letterman’s recent attacks on Sarah Palin and her 14 year-old daughter.  There really is no denunciation strong enough for these attacks, which are in many ways more egregious than the Guy Cimbalo “Hate F*** List” that Playboy and Politico took down.

Letterman’s attacks were made in an exponentially larger, broader forum, and included the statutory rape of a minor child.  They cannot be taken down or redacted.

But he also makes a good point here:

There are some who would try to hang Letterman’s attack on “the Left.” I’ll get to “the Left” in a minute, but Letterman is no more a liberal, in the political “team sports” sense of the word, than Guy Cimbalo is.  They are not conservatives, but they are also basically apolitical.  Their words are owned by a popular culture that is hostile to conservatism, but also to liberal ideals (of feminism as well as others).  They are a third column.

The attacks aren’t coming from “the Left”, but the silence certainly is.  Read all of Tommy’s post.

Update: Like some commenters, I’m particularly amused at Brewer’s offense at Ziegler’s claims of bias, but her lack of outrage over the personal attacks on a 14-year-old girl.  Stay classy, Contessa!


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Your way has been tried. It was a righteous failure.
You are harping on ONE COMMENT, ‘dryhumping’, like our new friend Victor82.
I didn’t call you a troll, but if the name fits, wear it.
Don’t come on here and play ball once a year and not expect to get dirty. If you don’t like this blog, if you are offended by our discussions, go elsewhere.
We can be ourselves here, MPH. We don’t have brownshirts and obama koolaid drinkers attacking us for thinking differently on HA.
You have a right to your opinion, but if you don’t want to be challenged for your opinion, stick to reading HA, not posting on it.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM

I think the majority of us agree on the basic premise that Obama is ruining this country, and he is being abetted in this by several groups, including the MSM. Personally, my main objections to crawling in the gutter to win, are that when you use the tactics of the left, you make it more difficult to differentiate between the two sides. How does making jokes about Obama’s kids do anything but promote the meme the liberals have been throwing around for years about uncaring and racist conservatives? When presented in a clear and cognizant manner, conservative ideas always triumph over liberal ideas. I am by no means saying to not fight back. But do it in an intelligent, rather than emotional manner.

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Brewer is a skanky ho

bill30097 on June 10, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Barack’s daughters are strictly off-limits.

econavenger on June 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM

LOL, like how Jenna and Barbara Bush were “off limits” between 2000 and 2009?

Del Dolemonte on June 10, 2009 at 4:17 PM

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM
coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM

If you two want to sit on your hands and allow people to attack the right, go right ahead. Just keep an eye on your fingers…..

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM

MS-DNC felt that Ms. Brewer would get the best of Mr.Ziegler. Wrong!

I prefer the “deer in the headlights” look of Norah O’Donnell better.

Stay classy MS-DNC!

SmallGovtGuy on June 10, 2009 at 4:22 PM

But do it in an intelligent, rather than emotional manner.

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM

How about an intelligently emotional manner? donkeys don’t and can’t argue on merits. Their policies have failed every time they’ve been tried. But they consistently make headway because they use celebrity and hype about the goal to mask their policy failures. They deride opponents rather than debate with them. The only thing that reduces celebrity is ridicule, and it’s a target rich environment.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Clinton Derangement Syndrome hurt the GOP; Bush Derangement Syndrome hurt the Democrats in 2004; I guarantee you that Obama Derangement Syndrome will crush the Republicans now. We need to keep away from the nasty personal attacks and the venom and stick to constantly barraging them with substantive criticism.

Outlander on June 10, 2009 at 2:55 PM

Interesting re-write of history. Totally wrong, however.

CDS in fact resulted in Bush winning in 2000, because Algore was too afraid to use him on the campaign trail.

BDS didn’t hurt the Dems at all in 2004. Their own “candidate” did them in. And remember that Evan Thomas, the guy who called O’bama God the other day, had predicted that he and his fellow “objective journalists” would go totally in the tank for Jeanne-Claude Kerri and as a result add 15 points to his poll totals. Mission accomplished. He almost won.

Del Dolemonte on June 10, 2009 at 4:25 PM

but also to liberal ideals (of feminism as well as others)

Feminism is not a progressive ideal. Marxists with uteri is a progressive ideal.

To the left, you are not a feminist unless you are a leftist. Feminism is a stalking horse for leftist ideology, no more.

spmat on June 10, 2009 at 4:26 PM

well, I guess it’s an improvement over “storming their houses, dragging them into the streets and stoning them to death”(don’t have the exact quote)

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Here’s the great liberal Baldwin talking about murdering people he disagrees with politically.I guess he does this when he isn’t screaming and threatening his 12 year old daughter.

Actor Alec Baldwin on Conan O’Brien:
[I]f we were in other countries, we would all right now, all of us together, all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! [crowd cheers] Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families.


This is a pretty good breakdown of the hate spewed by the “smart ones” over the last few years.
Too bad we can’t get liberals to hate terrorist and genocidal dictators the same way they hate Republicans and Christians:


Archive » Assassination Chic
http://michellemalkin.com/2006/08/31/assassination-chic/

Here are some quotes from some of the fair weather patriots in the entertainment industry:

“O&A – “Condoleezza Rice”
Charlie – “I’d love to f— that b*tch dude” (laughter)

Charlie – “She’s the F—in man”

O&A – “yeah”
Charlie – “I’d F…that b*tch….”

O&A – “I just imagine the horror in Condoleezza Rice’s face….”
- “(laughter) ….. as she realizes what’s going on”
- “…as you were just holding her down and F’n her.”
Charlie – “punch her all the F’n face, shut the F— up b*tch”

O&A – “that’s exactly what I meant” (laughter in background)
Charlie – “you know F— it …. and George Bush wife? I’d F— that b*tch to death” — “Shock Jocks” Opie & Anthony talk rape & violence with their guest “Homeless Charlie.”

“The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not ‘insurgents’ or ‘terrorists’ or ‘The Enemy.’ They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow — and they will win.” — Michael Moore

“A spoiled child (Bush) is telling us our Social Security isn’t safe anymore, so he is going to fix it for us. Well, here’s your answer, you ungrateful whelp: [audio sound of 4 gunshots being fired.] Just try it, you little b*stard. [audio of gun being cocked].” — A “humor bit” from the Randi Rhodes show

“..And then there’s Rumsfeld who said of Iraq ‘We have our good days and our bad days.’ We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say ‘This is one of our bad days’ and pull the trigger. Do you want to salvage our country? Be a savior of our country? Then vote for John Kerry and get rid of the whole Bush Bunch.” — From a fund raising ad put out by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club

“Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.” — Warren County Community College adjunct English professor, John Daly

“If I had my way, I would see Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell strapped down to electric chairs and lit up like Christmas trees. The better to light the way for American Democracy and American Freedom!” – Democratic Talk Radio’s Stephen Crockett


Here is how the Prop 8 protesters demand rights for themselves while violating and assaulting people trying to exercise their rights:


A small group of Christians made the “mistake” of trying to practice their rights of freedom of speech in the liberal dominated San Francisco:

Then a crowd started gathering. We began to sing “Amazing Grace”, and basically sang that song the whole night. (At some points we also sang “Nothing but the Blood of Jesus” and “Oh the Blood of Jesus”.) At first, they just shouted at us, using crude, rude, and foul language and calling us names like “haters” and “bigots”. Since it was a long night, I can’t even begin to remember all of the things that were shouted and/or chanted at us. Then, they started throwing hot coffee, soda and alcohol on us and spitting (and maybe even peeing) on us.

Then it got worse:

Roger got death threats. As the leader of our group, people looked him in the eyes and said “I am going to kill you.”, and they were serious. A cop heard one of them, and confronted him. (This part is kinda graphic, so you should skip the paragraph if you don’t want to be offended.) It wasn’t long before the violence turned to perversion. They were touching and grabbing me, and trying to shove things in my butt, and even trying to take off my pants – basically trying to molest me. I used one hand to hold my pants up, while I used the other arm to hold one of the girls. The guys huddled around all the girls, and protected them.

HOW PROGRESSIVE!!!!!!

Baxter Greene on June 10, 2009 at 4:28 PM

I am late to this thread, but I must say I find it odd that Ed says Contessa Brewer “manhandled” Ziegler. How, by shutting off the mic?

That’s not manhandling, that is a downright stereotypical feminine tactic.

BigD on June 10, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Trying to cut through this:

1. Calling Sarah Palin “slutty” is fair game except that it demeans airline attendants everywhere. How a major TV comedian can diss airline attendants like that and get away with it scott free can only be chalked up to: he’s a lib, so it’s okay. If a Rush Limbaugh said a democrat female politician looked like a slut, he’d be toast.

2. 14 year-old girls are OFF LIMITS for sexual intercourse comments. Anybody with even one brain cell in their head knows that.

Focusing on No. 1, to the exclusion of No. 2, only shows the commenter doesn’t want to address the real issue here.

jdp629 on June 10, 2009 at 4:29 PM

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM
coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM

If you two want to sit on your hands and allow people to attack the right, go right ahead. Just keep an eye on your fingers…..

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Sure buddy, way to pay attention. You don’t like it because others can eviscerate lefty’s while not having to use second grade tactics. I tell you what, keep using the lefty’s ways and see where that gets you.

Or, grow up, get a pair and be able to take them off at the knees without them knowing what hit them until the smoke clears.

Name calling the strategery of the weak minded.

So is attacking someone’s kids.

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:30 PM

If you two want to sit on your hands and allow people to attack the right, go right ahead. Just keep an eye on your fingers…..

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Let me repeat part of my closing statement in my comment: “I am by no means saying to not fight back. But do it in an intelligent, rather than emotional manner.” How is that allowing people to attack the right?

“Next is the terrain. it can be distant or near. It can be difficult or easy. It can be open or narrow. It also determines your life or death. ~Sun Tzu

Don’t fight the battle on the ground of their choosing. You win by intelligently choosing where and when to fight. Responding in kind to liberal idiocy is allowing them to chose the battlefield, and that is not strategic thinking.

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Dang right, what we want here is an echo chamber just like the lefty’s have. Chastising those who act just like the lefty’s will not be tolerated. So, even though you agree with all conservative ideas, you must be berated until you leave by those who have been here longer and have earned their chops, just like a union.

But you see, uncouth righty’s have the right-away here. Its our version of the Obama way. Or is that the Chicago way? I have trouble telling the difference.

Love it, or leave it. Lord knows they have been going after Allah for quite a while now.

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM

The people who are demanding an echo chamber are you guys demanding that people who don’t agree with you shut up and leave.
Your arguement is just stupid. You demand that if you chastise someone(as you say) then they set there and take take it and not fire back.
To bad, tough Sh*t

kangjie on June 10, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Bristol was not in Yankee stadium during the 7th inning stretch. Willow was in the stadium with Sarah.

I know that. I just don’t think Letterman knew that.

YYZ on June 10, 2009 at 4:31 PM

I was just mentioning a typical progressive response to the GOP, not commenting on the irony you noted.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 4:04 PM

And you did a good job.
I hope that I added to your point.

Baxter Greene on June 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Uh AP, were you watching the same interview I was? Ziegler manhandled her, that’s why she cut his mic.

Erich66 on June 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM

Give me a break! How do you manhandle someone when you are 3,000 miles away? If you mean verbally, all he did is not act like a weenie and stuck up for a fellow conservative and himself. Almost unheard of these days…

Blake on June 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Hate to break it to the Palin fans, but if she runs for President, the Bristol slut jokes are going to ramp up 100 fold.

Speedwagon82 on June 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

How about an intelligently emotional manner? donkeys don’t and can’t argue on merits. Their policies have failed every time they’ve been tried. But they consistently make headway because they use celebrity and hype about the goal to mask their policy failures. They deride opponents rather than debate with them. The only thing that reduces celebrity is ridicule, and it’s a target rich environment.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 4:24 PM

I am all for pointing out their stupidity. Personally, and it is anecdotal evidence at best, but I have had decent luck turning around several liberal friends from the dark side, just by pointing out the idiocy and inevitable result of liberal policies.

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Women like Brewer who condone it are worse than the abusers.

FerfeLaBat on June 10, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Excellent point. They think advocating for adoption breeds killers, what do they think supporting misogyny breeds?

hawksruleva on June 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM

Baxter Greene on June 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Hit it right out of the park.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Your arguement is just stupid. You demand that if you chastise someone(as you say) then they set there and take take it and not fire back.
To bad, tough Sh*t

kangjie on June 10, 2009 at 4:31 PM

BS, just because you cannot fight back without stooping to their level you want everyone to be that way.

A smart debater can cut up any opponent whose only way to fight is ad-hominem. Without have to resort to the same.

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Chill out, man. And maybe you ought to be here a few days before you start in on the “we”?

The suck-up to Allah was a nice touch, though …

progressoverpeace on June 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Chill out, man. And maybe you ought to be here a few days before you start in on the “we”?

The suck-up to Allah was a nice touch, though …

progressoverpeace on June 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Been here since before Brian left.

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM

You leave quite an impression.

progressoverpeace on June 10, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Lying or not,it is full of sh!t and they should be slammed to the ground with it.

Baxter Greene on June 10, 2009 at 3:47 PM

I agree with that, completely. I find it odd how liberal constituencies can work together, despite some serious differences, and yet the GOP can’t seem to do anything without 100% agreement.

hawksruleva on June 10, 2009 at 4:44 PM

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM
coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM

If you two want to sit on your hands and allow people to attack the right, go right ahead. Just keep an eye on your fingers…..

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Sure buddy, way to pay attention. You don’t like it because others can eviscerate lefty’s while not having to use second grade tactics. I tell you what, keep using the lefty’s ways and see where that gets you.

Or, grow up, get a pair and be able to take them off at the knees without them knowing what hit them until the smoke clears.

Name calling the strategery of the weak minded.

So is attacking someone’s kids.

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:30 PM

If you two want to sit on your hands and allow people to attack the right, go right ahead. Just keep an eye on your fingers…..

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Let me repeat part of my closing statement in my comment: “I am by no means saying to not fight back. But do it in an intelligent, rather than emotional manner.” How is that allowing people to attack the right?

“Next is the terrain. it can be distant or near. It can be difficult or easy. It can be open or narrow. It also determines your life or death. ~Sun Tzu
Don’t fight the battle on the ground of their choosing. You win by intelligently choosing where and when to fight. Responding in kind to liberal idiocy is allowing them to chose the battlefield, and that is not strategic thinking.

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 4:31 PM

First of all, I can’t grow a pair. I can only keep a pair in the top drawer of my dresser, but my husband needs and uses his, so my drawer is empty.
Second of all, I don’t want an echo chamber. I give opinions and they are attacked and I read opinions and attack them at will. We need differing views in here, but when those views have been tried over and over and failed, say like 2006 and 2008, running democrat lite and not fighting back against lefty attacks.
Third of all, Lefties don’t let facts get in the way of their arguments, so you have to hit them hard and then give them facts.
I don’t condone attacking the president’s daughters, and I didn’t attack them in the first place, but showing the flipside of what would happen if the vile attacks that have been lodged against Sarah Palin and her family were lodged against a lefty, it seems that it caused a lot of people to think about the words, not just that a lefty comedian said it and a whorebot on MS-DNC has no problem with it. I feel bad for the obama children, being the offspring of such hateful, anti-American parents. They will grow up being taught that America is not a good place.
Fourth of all, I hate it when people post quotes to try and explain what they are ‘thinking’. Use your own words.
Fifth of all, our representatives are not fighting. They are allowing themselves to be attacked and fighting ‘fair’ is doing nothing. No, going off ‘half-cocked’ as they say, is not the answer. But, I don’t think anyone here is speaking for the party and we are just tired of being represented by wimps.
That is all.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM

BS, just because you cannot fight back without stooping to their level you want everyone to be that way.

A smart debater can cut up any opponent whose only way to fight is ad-hominem. Without have to resort to the same.

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

That hasn’t been true since Nixon v Kennedy, if it ever was. People don’t make decisions based on reason they do it because of emotional likes and dislikes…then rationalize them. If that wasn’t true, we wouldn’t be seeing Zeta Jones in those cell phone commercials, it would just be the economists.

They way a good debater wins is by making his/her opponent look stupid, foolish, or some other unappealing feeling. That is what prevents and audience from identifying with them and hence their ideas.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM

No, going off ‘half-cocked’ as they say, is not the answer. But, I don’t think anyone here is speaking for the party and we are just tired of being represented by wimps.
That is all.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Hey, an ‘uncontolled’ outburst at the right time can do wonders. Never underestimate the power of a well timed expletive.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 4:50 PM

HAHAHA, what a segment.

Is everyone at pMSNBC this juvenile, scripted, incapable of doing an objective interview and unable to be professional or is it just her?

She can’t deal with anything peripheral to the subject at hand, a subject SHE brought up.

LOL @ the Obamarx’ pom pom cheer leading squad network

H8Caliph8 on June 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM

So Contessa gets offended by Ziegler talking about the network she works for but would never get offended when someone calls her a “slut”?

Frances on June 10, 2009 at 4:59 PM

There are some who would try to hang Letterman’s attack on “the Left.” I’ll get to “the Left” in a minute, but Letterman is no more a liberal, in the political “team sports” sense of the word, than Guy Cimbalo is. They are not conservatives, but they are also basically apolitical.

Uh-uh. When these “apolitical” types train their sick humor on the Obamas, yeah.

Someday, Tommy Christopher is going to have to wake up to the fundamental dishonesty and nastiness to be found in his section of the political spectrum.

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Guys, John Ziegler is an embarrassment. You don’t go onto a news network and start attacking them for being bias over and over again. He just comes across as a partisan nuisance (I should have used a stronger word), who kept on avoiding her questions.

She had every right to yank his mike.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Oh please, more than Jon Stewart? More than Letterman?

Gimme a break.

AnninCA on June 10, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Nope. I’d say about the same as them. Its the same reason I can’t stand them either. This behavior is usually attributable to liberals.

Zetterson on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Django,

Those people in the pictures are a real attractive group, no? How bad must they smell!

Frances on June 10, 2009 at 5:01 PM

So let me get this straight: It’s a matter of course for this Contessa person to be “offended” (as she herself said at the end), but it’s somehow inappropriate or wrong for Sarah Palin to be?

And all through the so-called interview, she asked questions that Ziegler answered, and got peeved at almost every one. Why? Because she doesn’t like to hear the truth? And OK, if making comments about female public figures is fair game, then I’d like to hear them stop whinging about comments re: Michelle Obama’s unsupermodel status.

Yeah, Ziegler came on a little strong, but her pretense at being above that sort of thing is sheer hypocrisy. And Ziegler is right about that “official station for Barack Obama” statement he made.

fireweednectar on June 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Hate to break it to the Palin fans, but if she runs for President, the Bristol slut jokes are going to ramp up 100 fold.

Speedwagon82 on June 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

And who is that going to benefit? Anyone with a daughter and 2 operating brain cells will react with their ballot.

caygeon on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Ummm…she begins the questions with…”What on the top ten list hurt Sara Palins feelings?” Why…any idiot knows there was absolutely nothing on the list that should hurt her feelings! What journalism school did this chick go to???

Sannity on June 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Somebody call Herman Melville, because we’re getting one Moby after another up in here.

Jim Treacher on June 10, 2009 at 5:06 PM

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM

You leave quite an impression.

progressoverpeace on June 10, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Usually the threads are intelligent enough that there isn’t much that needs to be added.

First of all, I can’t grow a pair. I can only keep a pair in the top drawer of my dresser, but my husband needs and uses his, so my drawer is empty.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM

As I mentioned earlier, most real right leaning women have more than enough to take on a gutter dwelling lefty, without having to sink to their level. my apologies for the gender jibe.

Third of all, Lefties don’t let facts get in the way of their arguments, so you have to hit them hard and then give them facts.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Lefty’s are a lost cause. They will have to have their own epiphany to see the light. Its the squishy middle that can be swayed. And they mostly tend to be able to see the difference between logic and ad-hominem.

But, I don’t think anyone here is speaking for the party and we are just tired of being represented by wimps.
That is all.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM

It doesn’t matter. By the time lefty’s are done it will be as it came from Michael Steele himself.

They way a good debater wins is by making his/her opponent look stupid, foolish, or some other unappealing feeling. That is what prevents and audience from identifying with them and hence their ideas.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM

And resorting to the same tactics as the left is going to work?

Look, y’all can swim in the same gutter all y’all want. And whine and attack me when I call you on it. It doesn’t advance your agenda with any others but the like minded.

Or, you can raise the bar, and not only fell better, but be better when it comes policy issues. And I’ll go back to reading HA rather than commenting.

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Dear Contessa:

How does it feel to have your a** handed to you?

Just curious, because that ‘deer in the headlights’ stare gets old quickly. You lost control of that ‘interview’ the minute Mr. Ziegler opened his mouth and you never got it back. Even after your lame attempt at, “Let’s switch topics’.

I enjoyed immensely watching you crash and burn while getting punked in the process. Your crying like a ‘offended’ little b*tch was just icing on the cake!

Jack.

Jack Deth on June 10, 2009 at 5:11 PM

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Democrat lite is a surefire way to lose and you are also correct about fighting back. Speaking for myself, and I believe cozmo is on the same page, neither of us is saying that we should not fight. Hell, I even agree about the well timed “spontaneous expletive” that Fighton03 is talking about. It is just a differing view of tactics that is the disagreement. I view using the very same tactics that offend me coming from the left as being similar in nature to becoming Democrat Lite. I don’t want to become what I detest in order to win an election. Leave the garbage for DailyKOS and DU. Pointing out some of the postings there to mushy middle friends has served better than hours of argument to convince people to not vote for liberals. As for my use of Sun Tzu, sometimes a quote used for brevity packs more punch than my usual verbose meanderings ever will.

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Somebody call Herman Melville, because we’re getting one Moby after another up in here.

Jim Treacher on June 10, 2009 at 5:06 PM

A direct and immediate side effect of comments registration yesterday.

We got some real charmers, apparently.

BigD on June 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Somebody call Herman Melville, because we’re getting one Moby after another up in here.

Jim Treacher on June 10, 2009 at 5:06 PM

You noticed?

Del Dolemonte on June 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Hate to break it to the Palin fans, but if she runs for President, the Bristol slut jokes are going to ramp up 100 fold.

Speedwagon82 on June 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

And who is that going to benefit? Anyone with a daughter and 2 operating brain cells will react with their ballot.

caygeon on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Absolutely right. Saturation point as far as the smears are concerned was reached sometime in September. Parents, at any rate, have probably begun to bristle a little bit. Pimply-faced Poli Sci majors might love it.

Ummm…she begins the questions with…”What on the top ten list hurt Sara Palins feelings?” Why…any idiot knows there was absolutely nothing on the list that should hurt her feelings!

Sannity on June 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Yeah…what’s hilarious is Brewer acts all indignant that Palin called Letterman “pathetic”. It’s like, the state media are supposed to drag you through the mud and you’re supposed to be grateful for the honor.

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 5:14 PM

I thought she was “tough” enough to take criticism…she can’t even stand to have her network dissed, imagine if she had a daughter and Ziegler said something about her.

right2bright on June 10, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Guys, John Ziegler is an embarrassment. You don’t go onto a news network and start attacking them for being bias over and over again. He just comes across as a partisan nuisance (I should have used a stronger word), who kept on avoiding her questions.

She had every right to yank his mike.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM

There is a big problem with your analysis, you are correct in stating that one shouldn’t go “onto a news network and start attacking…”, the only problem is, MSNBC is NOT A NEWS NETWORK, it is an arm of the Obama administration. Therefore, the “rules” do not apply as you stated. Also, Ziegler didn’t embarrass me one iota!

TampaBayBull on June 10, 2009 at 5:15 PM

No, going off ‘half-cocked’ as they say, is not the answer. But, I don’t think anyone here is speaking for the party and we are just tired of being represented by wimps.
That is all.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Hey, an ‘uncontolled’ outburst at the right time can do wonders. Never underestimate the power of a well timed expletive.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Good point. I have been deathly ill the last week or so, and was watching Geraldo on Saturday….I know, sickness and he came back from commercial and while on camera, said something about a tongueless piece of crap…not sure who he was talking about, but he was cheering obama, downing rush and talking to Ann Coulter….hmmmmm.
(*#&U$#@( liberals!

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Guys, John Ziegler is an embarrassment. You don’t go onto a news network and start attacking them for being bias over and over again. He just comes across as a partisan nuisance (I should have used a stronger word), who kept on avoiding her questions.

She had every right to yank his mike.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Sure she did, and Ziegler had every right to point out what a whore MSNBC is. They’re the ones who asked him to come on, apparently. Ziegler is just one of those who won’t come on and backstab Republicans. Tough titty.

Somebody call Herman Melville, because we’re getting one Moby after another up in here.

Jim Treacher on June 10, 2009 at 5:06 PM

They’re nervous about their messiah. A lot are coming out of the woodwork.

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Good point. I have been deathly ill the last week or so, and was watching Geraldo on Saturday….I know, sickness and he came back from commercial and while on camera, said something about a tongueless piece of crap…not sure who he was talking about, but he was cheering obama, downing rush and talking to Ann Coulter….hmmmmm.
(*#&U$#@( liberals!

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Hope you are feeling better. Although have to say, watching Geraldo cannot be good for your health.

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Has anyone ever threatened to hatef**k Contessa? Just wondering.

Strike Twice on June 10, 2009 at 5:28 PM

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Look, I think we are all on the same page, but we see a lot of limp, wet noodle, spineless democrat lites come around here and they say about the same things about being nice and not making a fuss and then…..bam! We have a candidate like McCain that is not fighting back, not invoking our ideals as conservatives.
We are just angry that our representatives are not representing us, they are going along to get along.
This blog is where we talk about that, and yes, we get angry.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Sure she did, and Ziegler had every right to point out what a whore MSNBC is. They’re the ones who asked him to come on, apparently. Ziegler is just one of those who won’t come on and backstab Republicans. Tough titty.

But seriously, how productive was Ziegler in his presentation? I agree that the network’s opinions lean more toward the left than right, but why pick on that host? She’s not a commentator. It is her job to ask tough questions, and if Zeigler is constantly attacking the network and not answering her questions, what good is that?

Sorry, Zeigler and I probably agree on the issues at least 60% of the time, but acting like a partisan hack on television does not go well in my book.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Hate to break it to the Palin fans, but if she runs for President, the Bristol slut jokes are going to ramp up 100 fold.

Speedwagon82 on June 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

And who is that going to benefit? Anyone with a daughter and 2 operating brain cells will react with their ballot.

caygeon on June 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM

That’s the entire point, caygeon. They savaged Sarah AND her children during the campaign. It was wrong, and yet, all those parents still voted to most ignorant, panty-waist candidate into office. It doesn’t matter, because the MSM is not going to condemn it and unless you are a news junkie like all of us, you are not going to hear about it.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:34 PM

But seriously, how productive was Ziegler in his presentation? I agree that the network’s opinions lean more toward the left than right, but why pick on that host? She’s not a commentator.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Oh, but she is a commentator. Everyone on MSNBC is a commentator. Ziegler wiped the floor with her. He just spoke the truth, which is all you really have to do with the state media types.

And to say MSNBC just “leans more toward the left than the right” is ridiculous. It’s Obama’s personal network, practically.

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Methink Contessa was a bit out of her league on this interview. Hahahahahahaha….common sense.

“My common sense compels me to cut the mike when confronted with such an avalanche of facts.”

Contessa = Loser

StockOption on June 10, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Two of my favorite Contessa Brewer moments:

Security concern at Guiliani gathering = Time to adjust my make-up!

and

I’m not gay!

Penfold on June 10, 2009 at 5:39 PM

There is a big problem with your analysis, you are correct in stating that one shouldn’t go “onto a news network and start attacking…”, the only problem is, MSNBC is NOT A NEWS NETWORK, it is an arm of the Obama administration. Therefore, the “rules” do not apply as you stated. Also, Ziegler didn’t embarrass me one iota!

TampaBayBull on June 10, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Whether you like it or not, MSNBC is a news network. They have news shows and they have opinion shows. Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, and Chris Matthews are opinion-makers, not reporters anymore.

Well, it embarrassed me. I am a pretty educated guy and I know for a fact that any debate coach or English professor would fail Zeigler there. Being mean-spirited and dodging questions is a no-no.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:42 PM

But seriously, how productive was Ziegler in his presentation? I agree that the network’s opinions lean more toward the left than right, but why pick on that host? She’s not a commentator. It is her job to ask tough questions, and if Zeigler is constantly attacking the network and not answering her questions, what good is that?

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Um, she is as much of a news reporter as Susan Roesgen, and her opening comments made it clear.

I don’t really care for Zeigler, but think he got to her, and got her.

She was flustered and unprofessional (except to MSNBC and those who watch it).

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Look, I think we are all on the same page, but we see a lot of limp, wet noodle, spineless democrat lites come around here and they say about the same things about being nice and not making a fuss and then…..bam! We have a candidate like McCain that is not fighting back, not invoking our ideals as conservatives.
We are just angry that our representatives are not representing us, they are going along to get along.
This blog is where we talk about that, and yes, we get angry.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Yeah, I respect McCain for his military service to the country, but he was about the worst possible candidate (outside of Ron Paul). I was a big Fred Thompson fan leading up to the nomination, and was sorely disappointed that he turned out to be such a bust. (cue Csdeven..lol). Believe me, having been out of work for a year now, and not looking like it will get better anytime soon, I am plenty pissed about the way things are going right now.

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Oh, but she is a commentator. Everyone on MSNBC is a commentator. Ziegler wiped the floor with her. He just spoke the truth, which is all you really have to do with the state media types.

And to say MSNBC just “leans more toward the left than the right” is ridiculous. It’s Obama’s personal network, practically.

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 5:36 PM

It may be Obama’s personal network, but that does not excuse Zeigler for being a jerk. I am sorry, it does not.

How is Contessa Brewer a commentator? She’s like Shep Smith on Fox or Megan Kelly on Fox. Brewer does not really give opinions. She simply interviews guests and reads off of the teleprompter.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:48 PM

What does MSNBC even stand for these days?

Mega Slutty News for Barack’s Comfort?

Moronic Sluts Nuzzling Barack’s Coccyx?

econavenger on June 10, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Being mean-spirited and dodging questions is a no-no.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:42 PM

You better inform the democratic party….

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Whether you like it or not, MSNBC is a news network. They have news shows and they have opinion shows. Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, and Chris Matthews are opinion-makers, not reporters anymore.

Well, it embarrassed me. I am a pretty educated guy and I know for a fact that any debate coach or English professor would fail Zeigler there. Being mean-spirited and dodging questions is a no-no.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Dodging? What did Ziegler say that was untrue?

And MSNBC is as much a “news network” as Rush’s EIB. There is no “this one is an unbiased, objective journalist… and this one is merely a commentator”. That’s utter b.s. You’re going to tell me that Andrea Mitchell is simply a disinterested observer?

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 5:50 PM

It may be Obama’s personal network, but that does not excuse Zeigler for being a jerk. I am sorry, it does not.

How is Contessa Brewer a commentator? She’s like Shep Smith on Fox or Megan Kelly on Fox. Brewer does not really give opinions. She simply interviews guests and reads off of the teleprompter.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Shep Smithy and Megan Kelly likewise comment. The reference to a difference between pure journalists like Brewer and commentators like Matthews was yours.

And how was Ziegler any more of a jerk than Brewer? She’s the one that used the bait-and-switch.

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Absolutely, I was a Fred fan, but he never really went anywhere, then I got to vote, oh, around June when it was all over. I voted for Ron Paul as a protest.
I think the key for not getting another mccain is this:

Super Duper Tuesday, and tell IA, NH, SC, FL, you’ve had a fantastic ride, but it’s OUR TURN to pick our candidate!

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM

*Smith, not Smithy

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM

There was nothing wrong with Zeiglar’s behavior.

Blake on June 10, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Whether you like it or not, MSNBC is a news network. They have news shows and they have opinion shows. Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, and Chris Matthews are opinion-makers, not reporters anymore.

Well, it embarrassed me. I am a pretty educated guy and I know for a fact that any debate coach or English professor would fail Zeigler there. Being mean-spirited and dodging questions is a no-no.

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Yes, but nobody over at MSNBC is interested in a debate, they only serve to smear the opposition and further the liberal agenda. There is a reason that Obama admin. officials made it known that MSNBC is the station that is always on in the WH.

How would a “debate” help at all? You either have the viewers–liberal fanatics that could care less about what a conservative has to say on any issue, or you have the network itself–only trying to humiliate anybody that hasn’t fallen under Obama’s trance.

I think conservatives and intelligent independents need as many Zieglers as possible, because the only way to advance “our” position is to minimize MSNBC’s reputation and mask their credibility (assuming you believe they still have any).

TampaBayBull on June 10, 2009 at 5:56 PM

There was nothing wrong with Zeiglar’s behavior.

Blake on June 10, 2009 at 5:54 PM

No, there wasn’t. The problem is a conservative went on offense rather than sit there and be skewered. Thus, he was a jerk.

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Liz Cheney does what Zeigler did with finesse, he is just fed up with the BS on BSNBC and he let ‘er rip.

Contessa Brewer is a hack, and a skank, and she has no business trying to be a ‘thinker’. Nothing up there to think with, sweetie.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM

I was laughing about how this video will become part of Contessa Brewer’s on-line legacy – seen year after year as representing the cluelessness of the MSM minions. But then again, it probably will disappear down the memory hole by the end of the day and the Google cache wiped clean…ah, life in Obama’s “rebuilt America”.

in_awe on June 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:42 PM

MSNBC is a joke. And you, sir, are a joke for defending them.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM

What does MSNBC even stand for these days?

Mega Slutty News for Barack’s Comfort?

Moronic Sluts Nuzzling Barack’s Coccyx?

econavenger on June 10, 2009 at 5:48 PM

I like what Huckabee calls them better, MSBS!

TampaBayBull on June 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM

This is nothing new for Contessa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwcE0_80dwY
Afterwards, she probably went into her office and had a temper tantrum.

diogenes on June 10, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Ace is saying the only reference he can find of anyone calling Contessa a slut is when Imus called her a skank after she called him a cantankerous old fool. MSNBC said it was over the line.
http://ace.mu.nu/

An MSNBC spokesman said: “Contessa Brewer is a valued and respected employee. While Don Imus’ humor is often brilliant and provocative, we believe that this morning’s comments about Contessa went over the line. We have expressed our displeasure to Don.”

JellyToast on June 10, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Imus talks about Brewer’s “fat ass” and other qualities.

They’re really not complimentary.

darwin on June 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM

you cut a mic, not a mike.

TTheoLogan on June 10, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Meanwhile Letterman basks in the free advertising.
I hope God has a sense of humor.

RobCon on June 10, 2009 at 6:51 PM

If there is one thing left wing talking heads like Brewer hate, it is being called on their Hypocrisy in a live interview and made to look foolish.

Hellrider on June 10, 2009 at 6:53 PM

“I’m a common sense thinker…I HAVE A TATTOO”
That is soo classic. What a poser.

RobCon on June 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Three seconds into it I knew it was gonna be good! And I didn’t stop laughing the whole time! Perfect!
“Media Malpractice” was great, and the public would definitely benefit from more exposure to Ziegler…

Lemmy on June 10, 2009 at 6:58 PM

but Letterman is no more a liberal, in the political “team sports” sense of the word, than Guy Cimbalo is.

Calling B.S. David Letterman is a hack with an agenda; just like 99.9% of the ‘entertainment’ [and I use that word loosely] industry.

The next time he makes a real joke about B. Hussein Ogabe will be the first time.

Branch Rickey on June 10, 2009 at 7:08 PM

John Z. knows more about MSNBC than this lady will ever know and I love how he is just not buying her happy horsesh/t.

RobCon on June 10, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Whether you like it or not, Franky Baby, MSNBC is a news network IS PURE PROPAGANDA.
Frank T.J Mackey on June 10, 2009 at 5:42 PM

FIFY Franky Baby

Branch Rickey on June 10, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Poor little Contessa was almost on the verge of tears. Come on..her lefty bosses and Letterman himself are watching and she was supposed to make this guy look like a horse’s ass…not the other way around. Not fair…(pout).

RobCon on June 10, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Security concern at Guiliani gathering = Time to adjust my make-up!

When you are as homely as Contessa, and whoa was she hit with the ugly & dumb@$$ stick, no amount of lipstick is gonna help.

Try a paper bag next time MSLSD little mind.

Branch Rickey on June 10, 2009 at 7:23 PM

I think she is just pissed because the ratings are in the tiolet. Oh and she is also a wonderful example of a lib, hack hypocrit. These people are utterly disgusting and without shame. Did she say reporters at mslsd? Did she say she was a common sense thinker? Was she offended by his remarks about her lousy network. Yet it’s ok to ridicule Sarah and her child. How can anyone watch this s***? Wait a minute, they don’t.

hypno2013 on June 10, 2009 at 7:25 PM

You can tell what a hack Contessa is by her complete disregard of Ziegler’s answer. When asked why Sarah Palin would be upset by Letterman’s comments, Ziegler clearly says that the joke about ARod molesting her teenage daughter was why in addition to the slutty comment.

So, its obvious that Contessa was looking for an answer based upon the “slutty” comment (backed up by the, ‘that’s happened to me and I’m fine’ quip) and when she didn’t get it she just kept on going like that was still the point when it wasn’t…oh, as an aside, let’s review that “it doesn’t bother me” attitude…

– Do you think it matters if one person gets called a nappy headed ho and gets upset about it that if someone else says, “I got called that last week and I’m fine” that suddenly its OK to do that? I’d bet you don’t think that and its the same absurd logic that Contessa uses. She’s a moron with no reasoning skills. Oh, and she’s a slutty tramp that used knee pads to get where she is in the business (I’m just playing along Contessa).

Geministorm on June 10, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Or, you can raise the bar, and not only fell better, but be better when it comes policy issues. And I’ll go back to reading HA rather than commenting.

cozmo on June 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM

People didn’t vote for Obama because of “policy issues”. In the parlance don’t brig a knife to a gunfight.

If someone attacks, and you do not defend you give them permission to attack again. Simply ‘calling them on it’ is not sufficient. What motivation is there for them to change? Therefore if they go for your gut, you kick them in the crotch. Hard and repeatedly.

Do not tolerate bad behavior, rather punish it in the most vicious way necessary, in a form that they will understand. If the conversation is high minded and polite I will be too, but if someone goes low, they WILL get a smack down. People who are incapable of maintaining polite conversation are not deserving of it in return.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 7:39 PM

I thought it was for the ‘No Pest Strip”

thomasaur on June 10, 2009 at 2:58 PM

hahaha

csdeven on June 10, 2009 at 7:42 PM

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Watching Geraldo will MAKE you deathly ill. Glad you’re on the way to recovery.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 7:42 PM

This woman certainly has an interesting view of being insulted.

She says Ziegler coming on MSNBC and setting the network straight is insulting, but apparently being called slutty in public, which she claims happened to her, didn’t phase her one bit.

Interesting.

TheCurrent on June 10, 2009 at 7:44 PM

No, there wasn’t. The problem is a conservative went on offense rather than sit there and be skewered. Thus, he was a jerk.

ddrintn on June 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM

I know. We’re living in bizarro world. And I’m sick of so called conservatives lecturing us that we have to eat $hit.

Liz Cheney does what Zeigler did with finesse, he is just fed up with the BS on BSNBC and he let ‘er rip.

HornetSting on June 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM

More like self restraint because to do otherwise would result in even more vile attacks from the left and “conservatives” [snicker] then she has to deal with now. It’s sexist but that’s what she has to contend with.

Blake on June 10, 2009 at 7:50 PM

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM

It’s the difference between initiating and responding. Always initiate from the high position, but if they attack from the mud, you’re going to have to get dirty to finish them off. That’s why we have Infantry as well as bombers.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 7:50 PM

It’s the difference between initiating and responding. Always initiate from the high position, but if they attack from the mud, you’re going to have to get dirty to finish them off. That’s why we have Infantry as well as bombers.

Fighton03 on June 10, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Having been a Cav Scout, I preferred to play forward observer and call in arty…lol. I have no problem with getting down and dirty if it is necessary. I just find some of the insults superfluous to the argument.

Letterman’s behavior, from everything I have heard, is reminiscent of some feudal lord trying to exercise his right of prima notte with anything with a XX chromosome. I would use him as an example of intelligence being inversely proportional to talent, but he is the exception that proves the rule.

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 8:32 PM

One word: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHahaahahahahaha.

Incidentally, where was the “man-handling”? What I saw was Ziegler rip that crow a new one. Several new ones. At the end, she was Swiss Cheese. I’ve seen screen doors with fewer holes.

…And, at the end, she couldn’t handle it–she had to cut the mic as he wished the network well.

I love watching amateurs like Brewer get their so-called “journalist” butts handed to them like that. It’s about as amusing as seeing any lefty think that this is nothing but a major loss for MSNBC. How’s your ratings doing so far, btw? Ever recover from the ratings devastation that the tea parties dealt you? Muwahahahahaha….

CatsGodot on June 10, 2009 at 8:36 PM

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