Shep Smith: Our viewers’ e-mails are starting to scare me
posted at 7:27 pm on June 10, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Take a group of people who are politically conscious, add Internet access and anonymity, and elect the other party’s guy president and voila: You’ve got a perfect petri dish in which to grow your very own nutroots culture. And no, before people start whining, of course I’m not saying that everyone who fits those criteria is nutroots. Just that we’re seeing a strain of paranoia in some righty blog comments since The One took office that was formerly relegated to lefty assertions about how the Bushitler would cancel the elections and declare himself king or whatever. If that were Shep’s point, it’d be fair enough; as it is, this is his hamfisted attempt to draw a straight line between dopey “Hussein” invective and the sort of decades-long dementia displayed by the Jew-loathing nut who pulled a shotgun in the Holocaust Museum today. (And who, by the way, hated neoconservatives generally and the GOP’s last two nominees for president in particular.) I don’t know how else to read this clip except as Shep warning America that his own viewership is teeming with would-be presidential assassins. If he truly believes that, why doesn’t he quit? How can his conscience stand it?
The bonus nuance here is that this vid was cut by TPM, which is suddenly shocked, shocked to find incendiary rhetoric online notwithstanding the notoriety their fellow travelers have for trafficking in it. Doubtless the point is to prove how unhinged Fox viewers are, but surf around on CNN or MSNBC or any other news website and compare the comments there. Jake Tapper’s mentioned more than once on Twitter how even his scrupulously balanced posts at ABC attract nutjobs by the dozen from both sides. Trolls are an Internet fact of life, alas. It’s time to stop being surprised.
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Shep, the right’s nut jobs send emails.
The Left’s nut jobs have cable news shows, talk shows, and comedy shows.
faraway on June 10, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Exactly and we condemned it here vigorously, that’s why I will not cheer on these Obama Birther/haters.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 9:57 PM
I can’t figure whether she is that dumb or that bold- coming back with a similar handle and posting the same drivel non-sequitur haikus. The poor thing just takes up space. Some of the other trolls occasionally get in good shot. She just wanders into walls while mumbling to herself.
A Balrog of Morgoth on June 10, 2009 at 9:58 PM
We’re so lucky to have you to lead us triumphantly into the Age of What The Hell Did You Just Say?
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 9:22 PM
hey you cons are the ones struggling with the message
g0tmylifeback on June 10, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Can the ban hammer be unlike lightning and strike twice?
mad scientist on June 10, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Shep’s just put off because the e-mailers are criticizing his make-up.
BuckeyeSam on June 10, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Shep is an earnest pansy who gives himself dreamy looks in the mirror.
There. I said it.
A Balrog of Morgoth on June 10, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Are you referring to me as well?
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Hey looky-loo! Getalife got his life back!
Puddleglum on June 10, 2009 at 10:05 PM
I was watching this at the time. I wanted to throw a brick at the TV. I can’t stand this little suckhole.
LtE126 on June 10, 2009 at 10:06 PM
So having legitimate and questions and concerns about Obama’s eligibility to be president is the same thing as hating him and wanting him assassinated?
You’re an idiot.
2Brave2Bscared on June 10, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Even Michelle Malkin, Allah & Ed have condemned the Birthers – right here on this blog you are visiting.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 10:12 PM
It’s interesting how Bill O’Reilly went after CNN for not covering the recruiter assassination during Primetime.
It appears Fox hardly covered this during their Primetime.
Isn’t it amazing how these 24 hours stations will follow their idealogical bent all the way to the bank and beyond…
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Just tell Shep he better not try to screw around with one of us right-wing nut jobs when we’re contending for the same parking space! He may not be as lucky as he was in Miami…
DonnaC on June 10, 2009 at 10:15 PM
The victim mentality birthers possess is indistinguishable from 9/11 truthers.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/05/truthers-to-the-left-of-me-truthers-to-the-right/
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/05/triggerism-trutherism-and-birtherism/
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Only in self defense Shep, only in self defense.
Mr. Joe on June 10, 2009 at 10:23 PM
As Jeff Goldstein suggested, Letterman’s comments should be turned to Obama. Does he approve bringing politicians daughters into fights like this?
But here is a bigger issue.
The Von Brunn shooting was a terrorist act and a horrible crime. His victim was a hero and I pray for him and his family. Von Brunn in no way represents my views, any more than scum like Fred Phelps represents view of most Christians. But I know that Charles Johnson and other mendacious individuals on the left will use the opportunity to blame this act on right wing extremism. Von Brunn was wearing a confederate hat wasn’t he?
But the Reverend Wright (why doesn’t Wright count as a Christianist to Sullivan?) gives another example of Jew hatred, with his rant today.
Granted Wright is not a criminal or a murderer. Wright just mentions that Israelis are engaged in ethnic cleansing in Gaza. That is true. The Israeli Defense Forces did do ethnic cleansing in Gaza, they evicted several thousand Jooooooooooz so the Palestinians could have their ethnically pure Shangra la. How has that turned out?
So let’s question President Obama about anti Semitism. Obviously Von Brunn is a violent murderer beyond the pale for any rational person, but Wright’s comments are not acceptable are they? Ask if it is true Barack Obama told Israel it cannot bomb Iran. If Von Brunn can kill a single person, what stops Iran from killing millions? These are all legitmate questions. I would suggest we start asking them now.
Mr. Joe on June 10, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Strike indistinguishable and say similar, and I would agree with you. The nirthers strike me as garden variety mostly-harmless conspiracy wanks. That cannot be said of the 9/11 truthers.
A Balrog of Morgoth on June 10, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Shep’s a drama queen.
BKeyser on June 10, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Hopefully, Shepard will finally be canned. he would feel much better over at MSNBC or CNN or the animal channel, anyway.
I have never met a Fox viewer who liked Shep. Never.
progressoverpeace on June 10, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Too late. I’ve already come from another forum where the Lefties were already assuming it was “Right-wing extremists” thus validating the DHS smear job.
Pathetic.
Yakko77 on June 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM
First of all, Shepherd Smith is an idiot leftists, I will NEVER watch him, if I wanted to watch leftist drivel, I would watch MSLSD.
Secondly, when did having legit concerns about Obama’s violations of the Constitution, such as his seizure of the census, become nutroot? When did supporting the Constitution become nutroot? Obama would NOT have illegally seized the census and given part of the census collection to ACORN if he did not intend to use the census to grab power. Democrats would NOT have introduced bills such as H.J. Res. 5 to overturn the 22nd Amendment if they didn’t want term limits to end or H.R. 45 if they didn’t want to destroy the 2nd Amendment. Obama is a NATIONAL SOCIALIST who follows the Nazi Party Platform like it was written on his teleprompter.
Let me fill you in on a little secret that’s not so secret, the 911 conspiracies were started by the left, supported by the left and only IDIOTS believe it.
WHY is there NO ONE in the GOP going after Obama on his violations of the Constitution, 27 in all so far including seizing the census and 11 Constitutional Violations included in the stimulus package?
Allahpundit, please answer this, WHY? Where is the GOP in all of this and why won’t the GOP stand up for the Constitution?
nelsonknows on June 10, 2009 at 10:30 PM
As for people posting crazy stuff on the internet… I’m shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!!!!!
Yakko77 on June 10, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Has anyone BOTHERED to look at Von Brunn’s website? Von Brunn is a NATIONAL SOCIALIST, he calls for socialism so he is in NO WAY a right-wing ANYTHING, he’s just a jew-hating psychopath much like Alex Jones, Ron Paul and most 911 conspiracy freaks.
nelsonknows on June 10, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Branch Rickey
We Twerps are quit miffed that you would compare us to a loser like Shep Smith.
Thank You.
annoyinglittletwerp on June 10, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Me either. In fact my parents are diehard FoxNews addicts who switch to CNN and Lou Dobbs when his show airs. He’s fluff – reminds me of one Sunday FoxNews show when Brit Hume used to host and on their discussion panel at the end of the show they invited Bill O’Reilly. Never happened again. I imagine Brit saying “Boy was that a mistake.” You don’t mix their hard news with their fluff.
Marcus on June 10, 2009 at 10:40 PM
I caught some of this before. Shep used someones legit complaints about what Obama is doing to our country and turned it into the ramblings of someone who is going to shoot up a school. I think Shep sees how popular a guy like Glen Beck is and he wants to become like him, except less informative more WTF are you talking about. Baker looked a bit weirded out by the guy today.
Rbastid on June 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Canned for what – expressing his free speech?
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 10:48 PM
And I just want one of those who are insisting that Obama shouldn’t have to produce a birth certificate to declare that no presidential candidate should ever have to produce a birth certificate.
If none of you can do that, then it appears to be just a special exception that you have for Obama.
Buddahpundit on June 10, 2009 at 10:49 PM
But Baker agreed with him and added dialogue.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 10:50 PM
But he did produce a birth certificate, that’s our point.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 10:51 PM
If Zero has lied about virtually everything else then lies about his birthplace would be no less than par for the course.
A con-man like Zero or Clintoon typically lies and deceived reflexively about everything. Neither can help it. It is their nature.
viking01 on June 10, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Uh, I’ll take a stab at that:
Because the GOP is made up of a cohort of Bush Republicans who are more interested in time serving and pork than in principle?
The ONLY reason they are interested in fiscal responsibility now is because they got their butts handed to them in two elections by Democrats who pretended to be fiscal conservatives. Now that the Democrats have power, the worm will turn, but trust me when I tell you this, the cancer is still there in the Beltway G.O.P.. You saw this in how they have treated Palin (whose record of fiscal conservatism in Alaska is rivaled, I would assert, only in recent history by Jeb Bush of Florida).
For the most part (with honorable exceptions, such as Jim DeMint and some of the other people at the Republican Study Group), most of these people would be satisfied if Obama let them hand out Other People’s Money.
Conservatives are right not to trust the Republican Party as far as we can throw them.
victor82 on June 10, 2009 at 10:52 PM
lol wow, you guys are nuts and never winning another election for a long freaking time. Good luck with that and being monitored by the feds.
beekiller on June 10, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Exercising free speech as a news anchor? Are you really that stupid?
progressoverpeace on June 10, 2009 at 10:57 PM
I’m with you nelson. It is the outrage expressed in your post that causes Shep to receive the somewhat desperate emails.
We are literally close to having the same freedoms left in the US as your average Chinese citizen and no one seems to notice or care. The Constitution doesn’t even come into consideration anymore. Since when is the government allowed to do half the things the latter half of Bush and now Obama are doing? Our forefathers would have risen up long ago. I couldn’t lead a one man band but if others more ambitious than I decided it was time….I would be there with them.
Goodeye_Closed on June 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM
“Ooh, letters from mean old anonymous internet peoples! So scawy! I’m afwaid!” /liberal pantywaist
What a total pansy. Somebody tie this mangina to a chair, sit him in front of a big-screen TV and show about a dozen random scary movies back-to-back.
Dark-Star on June 10, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Why should he be fired? Becuase he pointed how hateful emails and you didn’t like that?
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 11:02 PM
I’ll grant you that they aren’t out with Alex Jones protesting…yet. However, I still saw a few signs talking about the BC at the Tea Party I attended.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM
And I just want one of you who are insisting that Obama needs to produce his birth certificate at the request of internet commenters to cite any other president who has.
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM
But when anyone complained about the liberties Bush was taking with the Constitution – and there were many out there taking note – including those who served under Reagan – they were told by people like Bill O’Reilly – to shut up and that they had Bush derangement syndrome.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM
I could try to organize my thoughts to make an intelligent post about socialism in america, but…its late, i’ll go for a cheap shot instead…
Shep: “I get these emails from our viewers and it sounds like they’re a lot more likely to give the president a curb job than a blow j–.”
Lemmy on June 10, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Excellent point.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Suddenly you guys are taking note that the Constitution is being used as toilet paper.
Where were you all for the last 8 years before this guy?
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 11:12 PM
lol wow, you’re a troll. How long do you think it will take to have your a$$ banned from here? And thanks for confirming what we already know: democrats are the very ones they have warned us against.
Blake on June 10, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Not only that, there are comments out there that he may have been a Dixiecrat, the George Wallace type of Democrat, at one time. In other words, a nut case whose only affiliation was to racism.
Deanna on June 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Perhaps Shep would be more comfortable working for CNN or MSNBC. Maybe they’re more of HIS type of Americans.
Jeff from WI on June 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM
and this from the guy who hit a reporter in the parking lot to get a primo parking spot………….
m1aman on June 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM
“We’re the ones we’ve been waiting for!”
MadisonConservative on June 10, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Ah – newbies – this ain’t Free Republic and it isn’t a fever swamp.
People generally aren’t banned for civil disagreement.
They are banned for threatening behavior, obscene behavior etc.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Shep, the right’s nut jobs send emails.
The Left’s nut jobs have cable news shows, talk shows, and comedy shows.
faraway on June 10, 2009 at 9:56 PM
SAID IT ALL RIGHT THERE………….
8-track-vinyl on June 10, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Shep Smith is an idiot and always has been.
Snooper on June 10, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Maybe Shep sgould have been worried…Twitter..
von Brunn was definitely not a fan of Fox or McCain…
Deanna on June 10, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Did he? I’ve been waiting to see a real birth certificate with all the information that is included on every other Hawaiian’s ( and American’s ) birth certificate.
Buddahpundit on June 10, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Shhh…don’t let facts ruin their “feelings” that this guy was just doing what a typical conservative would.
coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 11:36 PM
I supported and voted for John McCain and so many here hated him. They called him out for everything from being a RINO to the whole McShamnesty thing.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Is it really all that surprising that some people would be getting pretty worked up over what is happening to this country right now? We have a president and congress who are seemingly intentionally trying to destroy America economically. There are many of us who believe that is totally deliberate. If you want to “remake” America, like the Prez sez, then first you have to tear down the old one. And to an unbiased eye, that appears to be exactly what the O hole is doing. Even PRAVDA for cripes sakes, says we are descending into socialism at an astounding speed. Lets face it, a lot of Americans have evolved into political idiots. I see these drooling idiots out here in SoCal all the time who are so sure about their political beliefs but who don’t even know the vice presidents name. They never read, rarely bath, and are so paraniod about wiretaps because they think uncle sam is going to overhear their conversation about a bag of pot, as if he had the time or resources to do that! They are essentially drooling idiots politics wise. When you try to explain to them about the dangers of hyper-inflation, their eyes glaze over. Public school grads every one!
But there are those of us who have a clue as to what these kinds of economic policies can do to a country. Is it more patriotic to watch your country destroyed or to do something about it? You all may not see it that way, but it doesn’t take but one person to think that drastic action is neccessary to save their country. We are living in the most radical times that most of us have ever seen in our lives.
Look at what is unarguably happening in front of your eyes:
Destroying the economy by hyperspending…Check!
Diluting the vote with an army of brownshirts…Check!
Going after the 2nd Amendment…Check!
Muzzling any voices of dissent…Check!
Government control of the banking system…Check!
Government control of business…Check!
We are watching our government go after every source of the peoples power, money, guns, free speech, personal private wealth, strong economy. If you think everyone in this country is going to just stand by and watch it sink to a usurping marxist president, you are probably wrong! I am not saying what I would or would not do, but I will guarentee you that there is some movement out there somewhere, I have no idea who they are, who is going to strike in some way eventually, whether you agree with them or not!
Radical times and radical actions create radical re-actions.
Bikerken on June 10, 2009 at 11:37 PM
I’m not a newbie (though I certainly haven’t been around here as long as you or some others)-but people have been banned for reasons other than threatening/obscene behavior.
I would say the behavior “beekiller” exhibited that “Blake” referred to-calling everyone here a nut, (trailer trash, a Nazi, etc.), when done repeatedly, has in fact, invariably resulted in that person eventually being banned.
As it should-it’s one thing to disagree, it’s another thing to routinely insult people.
It would be nice if some of them (before being banned) at least exhibited some kind of wit, though. None of them are exactly on track to put “Triumph the Insult Dog” out of business.
To say the least.
Dreadnought on June 10, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Does this mean that you believe that presidential candidates in the future shouldn’t have an obligation to provide documents proving that they are natural born citizens?
Do you believe that documents proving natural born citizen status should be presented to citizens who aren’t internet commenters?
Yes or no to those questions will suffice.
Buddahpundit on June 10, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Madison Conservative at 11:08
Name which other president has had their paternal grandmother say she was there at his birth in Kenya.
You might not have caught it on the other thread, but I asked a question that never got answered: Who in all the vetting process of the last presidential election has seen Obama’s authentic (not forged) birth certificate?
And I’ll add another 3 questions also.
1) Have you seen the “seal” in factcheck photo #5 which doesn’t bend with the fold?
2)Have you seen the close-up of the “seal” on factcheck photo #1 – which has no type at all right under the fold where “Barack Hussein Obama” should be if it was really the COLB Obama posted?
3) How do you explain those readily-observable facts?
justincase on June 10, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Off topic – Sarah Palin was just on Stephen Colbert….
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Many of his type and the Bithers supported Ron Paul & Tom Tancredo, they hated McCain.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 11:56 PM
And your point is?
Or did any of the people who were against McCain here post anti-semitic tirades and call him a traitor as von Brunn did? Did they believe McCain’s father taught him to hate Jews as von Brunn believed? And on and on… Actually that quote is from a lengthy tirade of his that proves he was way more than a White Supremacist…he was certifiable and saw conspiracies in everything, read it and see. Don’t attempt to equate people who may have criticized or even called McCain names on theis site to von Brunn.
Deanna on June 10, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Interesting post….
Interesting “Perspective” too.
I guess we people with a Brain, and a sense of “doin the right things in our life’s”, just need to “chill out”, an “go with the flow”…..NOT.
Why wouldn’t barry just PUT his REAL birth certificate, not a “copy”… out there for all to see?
Makes a boy wonder….
Foxfire on June 10, 2009 at 11:59 PM
“Many of his type?” Have you read anything about this man? He spent time in prison…he wasn’t simply a political supporter or even a conspriracy theorist.
Deanna on June 11, 2009 at 12:00 AM
My only point is/was that I supported John McCain and voted for him.
They didn’t post anti semetic remarks but many called McCain a traitor becuase of his attempt at the amnesty bill.
Maybe you weren’t hear for that.
AprilOrit on June 11, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Whoops meant to say maybe you weren’t here for that or you didn’t hear/read some of what was said/written.
AprilOrit on June 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I’m sorry but there is rational fear and irrational fear. If you are paying attention, the rational fear should have kicked in months ago…
The evidence that this administration is tanking the economy is overwhelming, this administration is either the absolute most moronic group of people in charge this country has ever seen or they are purposely tanking the system. No matter the answer, the outcome is still the same and WE THE PEOPLE will not just sit by and watch it happen.
Liberals can be very violent, but they are not great thinkers. Conservatives can be equally violent, but they combine their violence with thought and goals….Shep and all liberals should fear that lethal combination. I pray it does not have to come to that…I just dont see how good, moral, thinking people will just lay down and watch everything they love be torn to pieces.
Like me, I am sure many conservatives felt Obama would be an utter disaster…but like me, I doubt few believed he would do these things at such break neck speeds and have the media worshipping while he does it…it all seems so unreal.
javamartini on June 11, 2009 at 12:05 AM
I’ll help you out, April. Giving amnesty to illegal aliens is criminal. Offering them a path to US citizenship is treasonous.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Ok, and this is one of the reasons James Von Brunn and the Far Right hated McCain.
AprilOrit on June 11, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Oh Shep-were you saying the same thing through the eight years of unbridled paranoia I sat through during the Bush administration?
That’s actually not totally a rhetorical question. Maybe he did, I don’t know. Though I am starting to have my doubts.
I can say that I haven’t gotten any viral e-mails alleging all kinds of bizarre and nefarious plans by the current adminstration-as I did repeatedly when Bush was President.
Nor have I had a military recruting office down the road from my house firebombed by a crazed anti-Obama zealot, (in a shopping plaza that could easily have had myself or one of my neighbors walking by at the time.)
But that did happen when Bush was President.
Nor have I had to sit through lunchtime or social gathering harangues from foul-mouthed, paranoid, uninformed imbeciles frothing at the mouth and spewing the latest anti-Obama invective of the day.
But it did happen to me-repeatedly-while Bush was President.
I read the comments in here, and though some stuff is off the wall, and a few are a bit deranged-I haven’t seen anything like unbelievably large amount of vile and sick stuff I saw directed toward Bush, in the comments section of the lefty blogs. Now THAT was scary. That level of derangement is nowhere near as ubiquitous on the right.
You know what Shep-now as I think about it-even if you DID say the same thing when Bush was President-I don’t care. You’re supposed to be working for “our boys”-you sure as hell didn’t hear any complaining about the kind of stuff I’m talking about on MSNBC or CNN or CBS’s straight news coverage-or if you did it was presented in an approving manner.
But instead Shep complain about untypical behavior on the Right in a manner that tars all of us.
Let’s face it-Shep has always been viewed as a lightweight-maybe it’s time to start lobbying Fox to get rid of this moron.
Dreadnought on June 11, 2009 at 12:20 AM
I can always tell a liberal when they throw out the “Hate” word. Liberals are feelings oriented. If someone doesn’t agree with them, it must be hate. This is a very irrational way to look at the world. I know people don’t agree with my opinion, fine. I don’t think they hate me. Most of my friends are libs, drooling idiot libs. They love me and I love them, but we don’t see politics eye to eye. That’s ok.
Liberals often delude themselves by using language of feelings instead of rationale. I have always said the use of the phrase “Homophobic” was using a phrase to comfort oneself while at the same time, condemning the dissenter as someone who has an irrational fear. This is psyching yourself out. My point is this, if you are lying to yourself by using language that soothes your emotions but twists reality, you are not worth talking to, because one cannot convince anyone of the truth who won’t be honest with themselves.
Bikerken on June 11, 2009 at 12:21 AM
On merely the whim of internet commenters? I already implied that I think the idea is preposterous.
Yes, to the people who need to verify such things. Like the state election offices that confirm citizenship before candidates are even allowed on the ballot. And yes, I know about the New Jersey screw-up four years ago. If that isolated incident is meant to prove that all 50 state election offices are either filled with people refusing to do their job, then you’re nuts.
If a good deal of American citizens ask to see his BC, then yes, some confirmation should be made.
If a bunch of anonymous internet commenters and a 9/11 truther lawyer demand to see it, you should be facepalmed into oblivion for thinking you would be taken seriously.
And no, yes or no would not suffice for your loaded questions.
MadisonConservative on June 11, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Von Brunn hated McCain because he thought McCain and his father were in league with the Jews to control this country, amnesty was a small side issue to him. You really need to find out more about this nut before you post any more comments. Maybe his book Kill the Best Gentiles! – A New Hard-Hitting Exposé Of The JEW CONSPIRACY To Destroy The White Gene-Pool would be a good start.
Deanna on June 11, 2009 at 12:22 AM
OK here is my poll question: Who makes you turn OFF FOX NEWS faster? Sheppard Smith or Geraldo Rivera? When Sheppard Smith is on I am so happy NCIS reruns are on. Geraldo helps ESPN ratings.
DVPTexFla on June 11, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Who in all the vetting process of the 2004/2000 presidential campaigns saw Bush’s birth certificate?
Answer: The same people that would have seen Obama’s, and you can’t identify either. You are basing your presumption and implication on information that has not been provided to you in this instance, but it’s never been provided to you in ANY instance.
Good night. Don’t let the black helicopters bite.
MadisonConservative on June 11, 2009 at 12:25 AM
Uh, John McCain? Not a President, but a candidate….
Romeo13 on June 11, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Oh, and AprilOrit,
Let me know if any posters have been convicted of entering the Federal Reserve, threatening people with a gun, attempting to take a hostage, claiming to have planted bombs, and claming the jury and judge were Jew tainted…among other things…
Meanwhile I’m heading off to bed, work comes early tomorrow.
Deanna on June 11, 2009 at 12:29 AM
sorry to disabuse your meme…
But BOTH of Bush’s parents were available.
There is not ONE witness who has come forward as to Obamas birth.
Nor hospital records…
I mean…. come on… after all the publicity don’t you think some nurse or doctor would have come out and said “yeah, I was there… I remember!”, if for nothing else to get their 15 seconds of fame?
Romeo13 on June 11, 2009 at 12:30 AM
I believe that amnesty would, very likely, lead to the dissolution of the US. Basically, I think that secession would ensue within 5 or 10 years, and the federal entity would end up dissolving in the chaos.
Instead, we’re heading towards monetary implosion, which is even worse.
Forget the birth certificate. How about college transcripts? Test scores? School records? Health records? Everyone else puts these out. Always.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Actually Romeo, you’re somewhat wrong about this. There was on person, not a nurse or a doctor, who stepped forward and said she was there and was a witness. It was his grandmother who said he was born in Mombasa Kenya.
Bikerken on June 11, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Madison Conservative, I called my Secretary of State’s office before the election. Asked him what a candidate has to do to get on the ballot. They have to sign a sheet saying they are eligible. Period. We take these dudes totally on their word.
Not such a great idea – especially when the candidate posts a forgery online when they could get a simple, genuine certification of their name and birthplace only. Why didn’t he, MC?
justincase on June 11, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Being a jew myself – it wouldn’t really be anything I would obviously read.
And amnesty was not a small side issue at all.
AprilOrit on June 11, 2009 at 12:41 AM
Romeo13 at 12:30
And Obama and his cousin Odinga in Kenya barred anyone from talking to the grandmas, after Sarah Obama let it slip that Obama was born in Kenya.
Some folks say she clarified her statement to say he was born in Hawaii, but if you listen to the tape, the questions that were answered saying he was born in Hawaii were not answered by Sarah. The questions weren’t even translated into Swahili for her and no time was given for her to answer. What we have is a tape of her saying he was born in Kenya, followed by the questioner asking her again if he was born in Kenya, followed by a different grandson (who was doing the translating before) speaking on his own, saying basically, “No, she MEANT to say he was born in Hawaii. Of COURSE he was born in Hawaii.” And then they didn’t let the questioner talk to Sarah any more. A couple days later Odinga put guards around the area and said nobody could talk to her until after the election.
justincase on June 11, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Exercising free speech as a news anchor? Are you really that stupid?
progressoverpeace on June 10, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Why should he be fired? Becuase he pointed how hateful emails and you didn’t like that?
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 11:02 PM
“Free speech” covers government, reminding them that the rest of us can say pretty much what we please, anywhere, anytime – and legally they can do nothing about it, whether they like it or not (barring certain well-defined situations, such as “fighting words” and the famous “Fire in a crowded theater” scenario). It does not cover the owner of a TV network refusing to pay for airtime for one of his anchors spouting off and possibly damaging the reputation of the network with its viewers.
That said, I don’t think Shep Smith is hugely out of place on FNC, particularly for the “hard news” blocks he currently occupies. He’s not as far to the right as most of us would prefer. So? – He doesn’t make stuff up, he doesn’t execute ideological hit jobs on his interviews, and as far as I can tell, he’s honest and not trying to figure the angles to advance an agenda. Things that give him the creeps aren’t the same as what would give Glenn Beck the creeps, is all. It’s something viewers need to remember – and when they do get out of line (which characterized much coverage of today’s events, at least with regard to fingerpointing beyond this fruitcake of a shooter), it’s something to call the anchors on.
Blacksmith on June 11, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Fox claims to be Fair & balanced, by Shep doing what he did today – it proves they are.
AprilOrit on June 11, 2009 at 12:53 AM
One of the difficult things about judging what comments are “extreme” and which are simply passionate is that it can truly only be determined in hindsight. Furthermore, since everyone on the internet is anonymous, it’s impossible to tell if someone will follow up an email or comment tirade with action, whether it will be violent action at that.
For instance, I will openly admit that though I still hold out hope that we can turn everything around in the 2010 elections, and I have become become a more vocal political activist of late, I’m also beginning to stockpile certain items, and am learning to handle a firearm for the first time in my life. Does that mean I’m panicking, and expect a civil war? Not at all, and if people start talking more seriously about that idea, I’m going to vehemently oppose it. Am I planning on shooting people? Unless they attack me, NO WAY. I hope I never have to shoot anyone or any thing. So why am I learning to fire a gun? Because in times of economic instability, violent crime increases, and I no longer feel safe living in a world with guns and not knowing how to handle one myself.
I’m pretty torn about a lot of the topics being discussed here: I think the Birthers are wasting their energy on the wrong fight, and their conspiracy-theorist tendencies annoy me, but I understand the desire to fill a conspicuous and constitutionally-relevant blank. I think we’re getting ahead of ourselves when we talk about the loss of certain freedoms, but I’m afraid, too, so I completely understand the mild hysteria. As I stated, it’ll only be looking back through the prism of history that we’ll know who was a nut and who was wise.
Animator Girl on June 11, 2009 at 1:00 AM
I thought the “birthers” were on a wild goosechase until Berg filed his lawsuit to see the documentation and Obama chose to fight it with CAIR lawyers.
If we say that forgery is fine we deserve the lawlessness we will inevitably get. Nothing will be impossible to the politician who is willing to trample our laws, if nobody is willing to call them out on it. If it’s OK for the leader of the (previously) free world to get elected by posting a forgery, then what law is serious enough for us to enforce?
If we give in to this lawlessness for the sake of appearing reasonable and non-partisan, we’re giving criminals the very same appeasement that Chamberlain tried, and which so many here accuse Obama of. Either we are a nation of laws or we aren’t. It’s not a complicated issue.
I’m sorely disappointed that so many “conservatives” don’t care if we are a nation of laws.
justincase on June 11, 2009 at 1:08 AM
Excellent Post! +1
Bikerken on June 11, 2009 at 1:08 AM
Hardly. Put it in the context of a much more prevalent and virulent and eight-year long deranged vendetta against Bush by the Left. Then it will be fair and balanced.
By the way does anybody see any mainstream movie releases analogous to this coming down the pike regarding Mr. Obama?
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/09/10/a_new_low_in_bush_hatred/
Quit complaining about the damn little e-mails you get Shep. It makes you sound like a wuss.
Dreadnought on June 11, 2009 at 1:27 AM
Until I hear about a movie or a book being made on how to assassinate the president, as we had during W’s tenure, will I believe that the right is going nutty.
Al-in-Baja on June 11, 2009 at 1:29 AM
But he did produce a birth certificate, that’s our point.
AprilOrit on June 10, 2009 at 10:51 PM
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He produced a forged birth certificate. The seal doesn’t bend with the fold it’s on, and the close-up of the same seal has nothing right where “Barack Hussein Obama” is actually printed on the COLB.
There are other signs of forgery as well, but those are easily visible to the naked, untrained eye and verify each other in the fact that Obama’s COLB did not have a real seal on it. Factcheck photoshopped one onto photo #5 and then used a different document to try to show the relief of the seal they claimed was on Obama’s COLB.
justincase on June 11, 2009 at 1:32 AM
Shep is a dope, but he’s funny sometimes. He’s just tragic other times, as in this example. If he’s so scared maybe HE should get a gun, eh?
Funny, I haven’t heard one newsperson or commentator on the tube mention that this nazi piece of crap was actually a socialist…a liberal, not a right wing nutter.
On 0bamas birth certificate, it hardly matters now does it? The left wingers in the house and senate will never do anything about it even if it came out he was an Indonesian citizen. The supreme court wouldn’t even hear it, they just gave excuses to not hear the arguments.
2010 and 2012 can’t come fast enough.
Spiritk9 on June 11, 2009 at 1:44 AM
The reason Zero was suspect during the campaign is because of the suppression of virtually all of his background papers, grades etc. Nearly everything the guy has allegedly done has been accepted on blind faith. His various recent blunders confirm why his academic and adolescent background has been carefully shrouded.
Now that Zero has established himself as substantially below his pay grade then other details of his past become suspect. Whether or not Zero ever releases his long-form birth certificate or John Kerry every submits an SF180 is less relevant than the fact that such behavior confirms neither is fit for the basic managerial tasks of president. Enough were able to see through Kerry to keep him out of the Oval Office. Unfortunately too few saps were able to perceive the same for Zero until after Obammy’s damage is done.
Most of our presidents have had lengthy track records of private sector and public sector success. Most have served in our military with only Clintoon and Bambi as the recent exceptions. Much of what Zero and his lackeys have chosen to suppress about his past and origins could be just as easily supplied as arranging another exorbitant dinner-date to Manhattan on the public dime.
Yet the sad fact is that too many of the GOP would rather not have rocked the boat by demanding the basics of the opponent’s candidates for fear of being called “birthers” or whatever weasel words are used by wimps too lazy or cowardly to remember and apply Reagan’s worthy words: “Trust, but verify.” Those whom have forgotten Reagan’s words yet still give Zero a pass on the basics have earned a name for themselves. Enablers.
viking01 on June 11, 2009 at 1:48 AM
Would you ridicule them under any circumstances or would you just ridicule them up to the point they assembled the “good deal”?
I guess you are saying that if a majority of Obama voters wanted to see documentation proving that a future Republican President is a natural born citizen that confirmation should be made? I agree that is should.
Wouldn’t it be better to just require all presidents to show their Constitutional eligibility to hold the highest office in the land rather than play games of “who’s worthy of knowing if their president is a natural born citizen and who isn’t worthy?”?
Since you are an anonymous internet commenter, should you not be counted amongst the “good deal of American citizens” that you require before a president should have to show his Constitutional eligibility?
Would you require future presidents to be more open regarding their history, records, scores, etc. than Obama has been or do you believe Obama has been satisfactory in that regard?
Buddahpundit on June 11, 2009 at 2:00 AM
I suppose I’m a “birther”.
I don’t know about forgeries and folds and stamps. I’ve seen the reports and the pics and I can’t personally draw any conclusions.
However, what I do know is that the original certificate is available and the President of the United States seems to have a problem granting the people access to what should otherwise be an innoxious document.
His past seems to be riddled with contradictions and blankspots.
Something is wrong at the least, and rotten at the worst.
Shy Guy on June 11, 2009 at 3:11 AM
Where can I sign up for the “JEW CONSPIRACY”?
I always am late for those things…
TexasJew on June 11, 2009 at 3:32 AM
Shy Guy on June 11, 2009 at 3:11 AM
I agree.
Something about Obama has always reeked.
When he finally leaves the White House, they’re going to have to sheep-dip it.
TexasJew on June 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM
It is long past time for pretty boy floyd to be gone from Fox News. He mentioned the DHS extremist memo and said it was for guys like this. He also said the drumbeat about the memo was wrong and so were news stations ie. Fox News who railed against the memo.
I will watch anything but Sheppard Smith or Geraldo even a tv station that is off the year…ugh! Can’t stand either one of them. Smith makes me want throw up! Have you ever noticed he is so self centered he has different color contacts for each day of the week! UGH!
navyvet48 on June 11, 2009 at 3:39 AM
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