Scarborough wonders: Is Palin still a viable presidential candidate?
posted at 9:27 pm on June 10, 2009 by Allahpundit
Answer: Yes, but time’s running out. As much as you guys may hate Kathleen Parker, there’s some wisdom in her latest Palin-bash. Even Ann Coulter, in naming Palin 2008′s conservative of the year, acknowledged that she needs to master national policy before making another run at higher office. There’s been precious little evidence thus far that she’s done so; on the contrary, aside from a pro-life speech or two, most Palin headlines have been devoted to her photo op in front of the turkey slaughterhouse or the endless Johnston/Palin family drama or the “will she or won’t she” attendance sagas at GOP events, from the congressional dinner clusterfark to the CPAC clusterfark. No more drama. Either buckle down as a serious candidate or declare now that you’re not running and let the freak-show coverage run its course. Can we agree at least on that?
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Dan Pet on June 11, 2009 at 8:44 AM
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What a oountry we have here or can I still say that anymore seeing what has just passed us in the last five months.
Americannodash on June 11, 2009 at 8:52 AM
No one should declare they’re running yet. No one. It’s way too early.
Tennman on June 11, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Got to go work now. See ya
Americannodash on June 11, 2009 at 8:55 AM
Don’t be too tough on Parker. I’m sure she has spent over $100,000 on facelifts and reconstructive surgery so she won’t like her age (which is about 60). It’s all part of her carefully orchestrated campaign to move to left (while still pretending to be a conservative).
bw222 on June 11, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Don’t be too tough on Parker. I’m sure she has spent over $100,000 on facelifts and reconstructive surgery so she won’t like her age (which is about 60). It’s all part of her carefully orchestrated campaign to move to left (while still pretending to be a conservative).
bw222 on June 11, 2009 at 8:56 AM
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Don’t hold back…….tell me how you really feel about two faced backstabbing KP.
Americannodash on June 11, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Why would anyone care about Scarborough,or what he thinks?
Jeff from WI on June 11, 2009 at 9:09 AM
bw222 on June 11, 2009 at 8:56 AM
When I quickly scroll past Parker or Noonan nowadays the impression I still get isn’t so much that of their sharing MoDo’s fear of fading beauty it is their wishing they could steal the spotlight away from Sarah who becomes the instant center of attention at any party so naturally. Especially when the enthusiastic party attendees are normal people instead of Beltway prima donna fossils anchored in lofty pretensions against those leaders and voters in “flyover country” who, Gasp!, attended state colleges!
viking01 on June 11, 2009 at 9:10 AM
Nattering nabobs…
rogersnowden on June 11, 2009 at 9:27 AM
When Joe had an evening show, I used to watch him a little bit. I can still watch him, but his supporting cast is unwatchable. He still has spurts of backbone, but he has sold his soul to G.E. and their political ideology. He and Mika have a radio show also, I’ve heard. He’s been up in the Beltway too long.
kingsjester on June 11, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Noonan, Parker, etc, have moved left, and claim to be the ‘reason’ in the conservative group. They are not. They get plenty of play time from the libs, but conservatives cannot move left. There will be no alternative for American voters when Obama and the libs fall flat. As others have said, I too don’t read their garbage, just a waste of time, or just lib light reading. I need facts, adult reason, not what the libs or consvertives light put out.
Colorado on June 11, 2009 at 9:35 AM
I agree 100% with you Kingsjester. You are spot on with Joe. It’s a shame. I even read his book years ago.
Colorado on June 11, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Allah shills for Romney.
It’s a ‘consulting’ thing. Palin MUST be destroyed.
ewww snap. (Allah’s favorite devastating comeback- saved him the trouble.)
ExTex on June 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Hey Allah? You need to settle down and get a hold of yourself.
Listen to Her Heart
So you think you’re gonna take her away
With your money and your
cocainestimulusKeep thinkin’ that her mind is gonna change
But I know everything is okay
She’s gonna listen to her heart
It’s gonna tell her what to do
She might need a lot of loving
But she don’t need you
You want me to think that I’m being used
You want her to think it’s over
But you can’t see it doesn’t matter what you do
Buddy, you don’t even know her
She’s gonna listen to her heart
It’s gonna tell her what to do
She might need a lot of loving
But she don’t need you
And you just can’t creep up behind her
Why can’t you understand that she’s
myour girlShe’s
myour girlShe’s
myour girlShe’s gonna listen to her heart
It’s gonna tell her what to do
She might need a lot of lovin’
But she don’t need you
Sapwolf on June 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM
That’s crazy talk.
Sapwolf on June 11, 2009 at 9:46 AM
I promise you one thing: Next go around any GOP candidate or their supporters who flings crap at Palin will not get my vote if they win the primary. And in fact, I’ll actively advocate against your candidate.
Blake on June 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Seriously? Palin appears to support autistic kids and takes in a ball game with Rudy — next thing you know, she and her female children are trashed by all comers. Obviously, that’s the game: everytime she appears, even if she isn’t speaking, beltway insiders and Democratic operatives fire up the slime machine. I’m beginning to think these bozos feel they can get away with this because she’s a woman. Can we at least agree on that?
littleguy on June 11, 2009 at 9:48 AM
To the max!
littleguy on June 11, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Joe wasn’t in studio this morning and Mika, Barnacle, the dude from The Big Idea, some other idiot, and their little todie were all bashing Sarah. Joe had better bail out of the Beltway and save what is left of his soul.
kingsjester on June 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM
todie=toadie
oops.
kingsjester on June 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM
What do you mean still? Hah. She never was.
Terry Silver on June 11, 2009 at 9:52 AM
I agree. Every day there are 3+ f’ups in O’s admin.
Biden alone is an embarrassment.
Allah,
The REAL thread to post is:
Will Messiah drop VP going into 2012?
Sapwolf on June 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Right on!
They attack her, I go ballistic and not only do I not vote for that GOP backstabber, but I’m at there rally throwing a tomato.
Sapwolf on June 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM
KingJester, I watched as much of that crap as I could this morning. Talk about garbage. That idiot from the big idea got me going. Talk about human trash, and that is being polite. How can they sit there and take the view it’s ok to talk about a young girl, 18, or 14 years old like that and say it’s fair game. You’re right Joe needs to bail on that wreck. And 2 women would not say Letterpasny was out of line and dead wrong to make the non joke he did. Really sad to watch as much as I did. I had to turn the channel.
Colorado on June 11, 2009 at 10:00 AM
She’s got NO CHANCE of going in as President. Her best bet is to run with Newt at the top and Palin as the VP
Punditpawn on June 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM
I think I’ll start growing hemp like in WWII.
After the Pinnochio Presidente, his sidekick Joe (Barney Fife) O’Biden, the Washington insider elites and their allies, the Presstitutes, get done destroying the wealth and wealth creators in this country, creating a 30′s style economy, after they give our country over to the illegal border hoppers and send our terrorist attackers all to the Bahamas for a little vacation a few Honest, Decent, Hardworking Citzens might just be looking for someone like Sarah and a lot of ropes, trees and corner lapposts.
Hangem high and let God sort em out.
dhunter on June 11, 2009 at 10:04 AM
McCain said he would take names and make them famous.
I wonder how many names he has taken the names of the Gopers who attacked his running mate SARAH. Even the people on McCain’s campaign leaked stuff and he never bother to get his pen out and write them down.
Any beltway GOPER who disrespects Gov Palin will not get my vote. They can rot.
Geochelone on June 11, 2009 at 10:07 AM
The lefty jackals will be there to trash any GOP candidate in any way possible. Palin has been at the point of the spear, but if others gain traction, they will start receiving fire — look at Jindal’s initial foray. The most troubling issue for me is the GOP insider back stabbing aimed at Palin, again as the point of the spear. The real question is this — is the GOP a viable national party with RINOs making war with the base?
littleguy on June 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM
“Either buckle down as a serious candidate or declare now that you’re not running and let the freak-show coverage run its course. Can we agree at least on that?”
No, I do not agree on that. It’s 2009. Why should she declare now, either way, about 2012? She is doing a good job governing in her current elected office, which is more than we can say for Obummer.
NebCon on June 11, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Geochelone on June 11, 2009 at 10:07 AM
http://www.adn.com/money/industries/oil/story/825252.html
Try that for a little “good” news from our ‘Good Friend” John McCain!
The only thing this ef’n idiot fight, fight , fights is Republicans.
Again, every time the RNC, RNSC sends me a donation letter I send a donation to SarahPac and theres goes back to them empty. Let those bozos who gave us McDip s… pay the postage. Beltway insiders EEEUUUUCK! Hangem!
Hey McDips… I want my donation back to give to Sarah it was meant for her not you!
dhunter on June 11, 2009 at 10:17 AM
“Can we agree at least on that?”
Hell no, I think the ‘drama’ is created by slimeball RINOs and their operators and the liberal MSM. Your “responsible” Republican machine is headed into the river.
Chris_Balsz on June 11, 2009 at 10:21 AM
He even readily admits that his own readers don’t like him.
And yes, TheBigOldDog on June 11, 2009 at 12:31 AM, I have been following it.
Mad Dog on June 11, 2009 at 10:24 AM
EXACTLY. Democrats would never participate in that kind of behavior. It is only the Republicans that form a firing squad in a circle. We must not allow RINOs, jealous potential adversaries, liberals or the media to choose our candidates for us. That is OUR job!! Huck, Romney, Gingrich…tread carefully with our Sarah or risk losing her constituency. No VOTES for jealous haters. Cave in to liberals, join the “Palin is an airhead” or demean her in any way and you don’t get my vote.
Dan Pet on June 11, 2009 at 10:27 AM
I highly recommend that everybody follow him on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/allahpundit
I was following him until he kicked me off for telling him to “go to hell”, when he asked where he should go, to get “mad as hell” – in the order of the tea party movement.
Mad Dog on June 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Good one.
Mad Dog on June 11, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Here’s my number one request for Christmas:
Thank you.
Mad Dog on June 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Stop. Just stop.
If The Final cut was such a great album, then why does Roger Waters practically ignore it in his live shows nowadays. As far as I can tell, the only song that makes his own personal cut is Southampton Dock. Compare this with Thee Wall, Dark Side, Animals, Radio KAOS, and Wish You Were Here, all of which get multiple plays at RW shows.
Face it… both Gilmour and Waters know that The Final Cut was weak sauce. Dark Side might have influenced as many people as Atlas Shrugged. The Final Cut influenced about as many people as a Tommy Chong biography. And only because the stoners liked to clean their weed on both of them.
JohnGalt23 on June 11, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Funny. A post proposing that Palin’s time is “running out” gets close to 1,000 comments. A post pumping Jindal gets maybe 200 tops. A post pumping Sanford is lucky to get 100.
Norwegian on June 11, 2009 at 11:30 AM
When Gov Palin starts planning her politicial future based on the likes of Parker, Noonan and the others who openly display their disdain for her, she will not have one.
What other GOP politician has thrown themselves into the fray officially? Why should she be in a rush to become the designated punching bag for every previous loser of a GOP primary. Why let the unknown potential candidates, the ones few know anything about other than their name, use her popularity to get nationwide exposure?
katiejane on June 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Wow, I better buy a GOP Game Day Program. I know Jindal is the Apu looking supposedly conservative guy from La., but who the heck is Sanford? Is he black, have a son, owns a junk yard?
Jeff from WI on June 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
<<<<<—- Standing, applauding <<<<— Ready to tie some knots <—Making Fox News “Shep” nervous
Jeff from WI on June 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Incorrect. Supporting social justice is a sign that one has empathy.
In fact, the only people who do not possess empathy are those suffering from autism, those who are sociopaths, and Rush Limbaugh.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I love it when all of the folks start telling Sarah what she ought to do. I just sit and wonder at what you think she needs to do. “She needs foreign policy exeprence” That is my favorite. Considering the mess that has been created by that intellectual team that is up at State right now that is the funniest thing I have heard in the last 6 months.
The Oval Office is occupied by a Liberal Intellectual Elitist(are you good at acronyms?) whose lack of any experience in anything except making people do what he wants them to do is frightening. Yet you trash the only person who has been pointing out his deficiencies and is willing to take him to task for it. That man never, ever has uttered the word FREEDOM. That is so telling, yet no one even mentions it. Freedom’s time is never up.
BetseyRoss on June 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Sanford is the non-charismatic, boring-as-hell, born-with-aa-silver spoon governor of the state with the second highest unemployment rate in the union and an approval rating below 50%.
Who Allah sometimes believe is the GOP’s best shot for 2012….Go figure.
Meanwhile, Palin maintain a high approval rating, resides over one the healthiest state economies in the nation, is the most charismatic GOP leader to emerge since Reagan, the best fundraiser the GOP has ever had, but apprearantly her “time is ticking” because Obama-endorsing RINOs says so.
Go figure again.
Norwegian on June 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Name any two “social justice” issues where the current PC “empathy” crowd have prescribed real solutions, which have improved a significant number of human lives.
I’ll wait.
cs89 on June 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Not even close—just on to newer & more enlightening, informative adult topics!
Ladywolfnl on June 11, 2009 at 12:11 PM
You are an idiot if you believe that. Empathy is the new liberal buzzword for institutionalized reverse racism.
How about the Constitution as written, which is full of compassion for all people.
Rush Limbaugh wants all Americans to be free, prosperous and happy, just like he is. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, and by Southern I bet it’s SoCal, right?
On second thought, don’t bother to answer me, I don’t really care. America will survive your “empathy” and we’ll get back to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness soon enough.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM
1) The great campfire singalong of 1968
2) The rainbow dance of 1977
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM
You never responded to me last night after accusing me of pretending to know what I was talking about.
Was I incorrect? Or did you just not like what I had to say, despite it all being true?
Curious.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM
That’s not true and you know it.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM
??
cs89 on June 11, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Hmmm last night, it was late & I realized the conversation was going absolutely no where, I have no problem with others opinions as we all have one…. What one perceives to be as truth, well that is subjective.
So enjoy your day, lighten up & I will let you get the last word!
Ladywolfnl on June 11, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Where the hell did all the trolls come from?
upinak on June 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM
That is absolutely true, and I know it for sure.
Prove your assertion. You cannot, because you only know what the propagandists have spoonfed you, you do not know for yourself.
I listen to Rush regularly, and he says this clearly, without equivocation, all the time. He just said it again a few minutes ago. All Americans should be free to have Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness as laid out in our founding documents.
You have no facts on your side here. Not that you care.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM
upinak on June 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM
They opened up registration again. Looks like some previously-banned commenters are back with new identities.
AP must need the traffic.
cs89 on June 11, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Oh AP, what do you think about Kathleen Parker’s recent comments on the Letterman-Palin dustup?
Did Palin basically ask for it when she “sexualized” her candidacy?
cs89 on June 11, 2009 at 12:39 PM
The conversation did in fact go somewhere, it went my way rather definitively. Dutchwolf could not back up what he was saying about Sarah Palin, or hunting in general, or the behavior of predators, or the history of man as a natural predator.
When confronted with a well reasoned argument backed up by some facts, he got frustrated and just told us all how smart and sophisticated he is. Typical European attitude toward Americans. Also, he said the Governor should be shot from a helicopter, then denied he wanted her killed. All emotionalism, no factual basis.
I guess I hit a nerve, and it upset him a little. Maybe he will think deeper next time.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Obama thinks we have 59 states, thinks Austrians speak Austrian and is lost without totus (plus, bonus, he hates America!!)……but Palin needs to “brush up” on her qualifications?? I love the utter hypocrisy in this nation. She was a mayor and is now a governor. obama was an “organizer” and accomplished NOTHING – gag
Ris4victory on June 11, 2009 at 12:41 PM
You demand “empathy” of others, which is not true empathy, but a set of Left-wing belief systems. And yet, you demonstrate no empathy yourself in real time, as can be shown in the thread about Letterman making rape jokes about Palin’s 14 year-old daughter:
Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 12:45 PM
We need to make a list.
Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM
He thinks some Americans should be treated like 2nd-class citizens.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Simply not true dude. During his tour over the last 3 years he played TWO songs from The Final Cut, Southhampton Dock and the excellent song, The Fletcher Memorial Home. On his previous tour, he also played “Get Your Filthy Hands Off Of My Desert”.
Also, he hasnt played ANYTHING from KAOS for decades…I think you have confused KAOS with Amused To Death.
So, he actually played MORE songs from The Final Cut than Animals on his last two tours (2 songs vs 1 song). For example, on his last tour, he played the two songs I listed and ONE song from Animals (Sheep).
Having said that, there is no doubt that The Wall, Animals, and Dark Side of Moon are all better than The Final Cut. But they are ALL works of genius dude…unlike Tommy Chong’s bio which was a strange thing to bring up.
The Final Cut on June 11, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Proof?
cs89 on June 11, 2009 at 12:55 PM
I have listened to him say that women are not smart enough to make their own reproductive decisions and that millions of Americans should not be able to get married because they are offending God.
So like it or not, Mr. Limbaugh thinks some Americans should be treated like 2nd class citizens. This shows a lack of empathy and solidarity with regular folk.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Again, you assert, with no facts to back it up.
I know better, because I’ve heard him go on at length about the genius of our Founding, how we are the only society founded on INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY.
All Americans, regardless of race, gender, religion, should succeed with out a malignant, overgrown central government sucking all of their private property out from under them to give to others in order to secure even more centralized power for themselves.
What say you?
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:00 PM
I stand by my assertion that Mr. Limbaugh does not believe all Americans should have maximum freedoms.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:04 PM
No you have not listened to him say that women are not smart enough to make their own choices, he has not said those words. That is what you wish he would have said, but it is not what he has ever said.
Rush talks about the human rights of the unborn as laid out in our Founding Documents, as I’ve said already.
Being Pro-life does not make you anti-woman.
More bullsh!t propaganda you have been fed, and you eat it up.
But you are obviously a left wing statist who thinks I’m not smart enough to decide best how to spend my money, what sort of vehicle I should have, or what I should eat for dinner.
Now, who is it that is being treated as a second class citizen?
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM
The question is “Is Scarborough a viable person to listen to?” As for me, who lives in his home district-I am one Republican that would not give him the time of day.
Gulf Coast on June 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM
You stand by your assertion blindly, with no direct knowledge to support you. That’s fine, if you are content with that. It’s clear I’m wasting bandwith here, you don’t want to learn anything about these topics.
Have a nice day.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM
My assertion is very clear and the fact that Mr. Limbaugh does not want women to be free to make their own choices is also clear.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM
I find the following even more disturbing:
– Charles Johnson, Little Green Footballs
Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Only person I’ve heard making comments like this lately is David Letterman.
Limbaugh, on the other hand, opposes the killing of babies in the womb. Kind of different from what you say he said.
cs89 on June 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Sorry, wrong thread
Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM
You care nothing for the inalienable right of the unborn to pursue LIFE, LIBERTY and HAPPINESS? I guess not. You might gain a few pounds, or get a stretchmark or two. How inconvenient for your social life.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM
That’s nice. But what does it have to do with the fact that Mr. Limbaugh does not really believe in freedom for all Americans?
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:20 PM
By the way, If a woman is smart enough to choose life for her baby multiple times in her life, even when it’s difficult, like Sarah Palin has done, you do not celebrate that CHOICE. It’s only when DEATH is chosen, usually for sexual liberation and social convenience, that you celebrate a woman’s choice.
You do not make much sense to people that understand what the Constitution really means, and what it’s purpose was intended to be.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Your ugly and very upset about it. we get it,
posting on hotair won’t get those 50 ugly pounds off your fat butt. Try the treadmill. Calories in vs calories burned i.e put down the twinkie and step away from the computer.
kangjie on June 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM
You do not believe in freedom for all Americans, especially those weakest and most vulnerable among us. The truly defenseless. The children who have no one to defend their liberties and rights except their own mothers, whom you encourage to kill them before they can have any chance at life.
Rush Limbaugh is head and shoulders above the likes of you in advocating for freedom and liberty for all Americans.
I stand by my argument. :)
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Ok.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM
What specific facts do you have supporting your assertion? (btw, “in my opinion” != fact)
Fed45 on June 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Mr. Limbaugh has stated numerous times that women should not have the freedom to control their reproductive choices. He also thinks millions of Americans should not have the freedom to marry.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Ok. Heh.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:32 PM
What the…..? Oh, I get it. This is the gay marriage thing, right? Guess what, as far as the state is concerned, marriage has nothing to do with God. Also, gays are not being denied the freedom to marry. They can marry anyone of the opposite sex they want, just like everyone else in every state in the union. You do realize marriage is a state issue, not a federal issue, right? So, take that issue up with your governor, or state representatives
Fed45 on June 11, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Irrelevant.
The point I’m making is a rebuttal to someone who claims Mr. Limbaugh believes all Americans should have maximum freedom.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM
No one is denying women the freedom to choose to not have sex if they don’t want to take the chance of getting pregnant. Nor is anyone denying women the freedom to use birth control if they choose to be promiscuous. So, I don’t see anywhere where women are being denied the freedom to control their reproductive choices.
What kind of woman would deliberatley choose to get pregnant then kill the baby?
Fed45 on June 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM
You choose not to comment on the rights of the infant in the womb at all. It’s all focused on what YOU want for YOURSELF.
The “fetus” or “clump of cells” or whatever terms you choose to dehumanize the baby with, is a HUMAN BEING with rights under the Constitution JUST LIKE YOU.
This is the moral dilemma that liberas do not want to confront in this issue, because it’s so unpleasant, and interferes with the extreme ideology that’s been constructed to justify the CHOOSE DEATH industry.
Clearly, your mind will not receive the opposing arguments, because you can’t rationalize them away, so they must be twisted with Orwellian Newspeak, sanitized and washed away.
Oh well. Live and let live, right? Oops, maybe not for ALL AMERICANS.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM
It is very relevant. You are positing that there are people that are being denied permission to get married. That is not the case. Anyone can get married to anyone of the opposite sex they want. You are absolutely free to do that. Now, if you are equating “maximum freedom” to breaking state laws…well, I wouldn’t call that “maximum freedom”. I would call that anarchy.
Fed45 on June 11, 2009 at 1:42 PM
First of all, a fetus is not a human. It has no rights.
Secondly, Mr. Limbaugh believes that women — that is, fully formed human beings — should not have the right to control their own bodies.
Mr. Limbaugh can say he’s all about freedom, but until he gives up his stand against a woman’s reproductive freedom, it’s all just rhetorical bluster.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM
No comment…
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM
I’m pointing out to you that you do not support freedom for all Americans yourself, yet you will not acknowledge this fact.
To go back to the “social justice”, you do not support freedom for all Americans. You believe that some Americans are guilty of social crimes, that they have not been given a fair trial with representation to defend themselves.
You want to declare them guilty, and use the force of the Federal Government, backed up by armed law enforcement, to STEAL their fairly earned private property and reward others who have not earned it, contrary to the rights clearly enumerated in the Constitution.
What’s fair about that?
That is not justice, that is theft sanctioned by the Government.
You should really think these issues through more deeply before beclowning yourself with these unsupportable assertions.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM
All humans are a fetus before they are born
Life begins at conception therefore a human fetus is human otherwise people would be giving birth to chimps or dolphins
Are you really this stupid?
kangjie on June 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM
That is where you are wrong. That is an abomination created to justify this industry of death we have now.
What if your mother decided you have no rights just before you were born?
You would not be here to distort what conservatives believe at all.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:48 PM
You shouldn’t get your definitions of social justice from talk radio personalities, they are just going to get it wrong.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM
First of all, a fetus is not a human. It has no rights.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Well, it sure as blazes isn’t a puppy. And before you say it’s just a mass of cells, you, sweetie, are just a mass of cells, also. By the way, how did you start out? As a fetus or a puppy? Did you have no right to life either?
kingsjester on June 11, 2009 at 1:51 PM
SouthernGal, to add to what Brian1972 is saying… liberals like to pick and choose passages from the Constitution to support their positions in freedom. Well, let’s look at the preamble:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Note the word “posterity”. You do know what that word means, don’t you? Despite the fact that SCOTUS chose to make up a new law in the Roe v Wade ruling is unfortunate. Because the Constitution is absolutely silent on the issue of abortion. The Founders, in their wildest imagination, likely did not envision having to deal with something so henious. They put the word “posterity” in the preamble because the wanted to ensure those that would some after them would have the same rights and freedoms. So, that refers to the unborn. Now, like Brian says, you can choose to rationalize your way around that by choosing to define a group of growing cells inside a woman’s womb as something other than a human being. But that doesn’t make it so. I know of no medical case where a fertilized ovum grew into anything other than a human being. Can you site medical evidence to the contrary?
Fed45 on June 11, 2009 at 1:51 PM
You might just as well have said “I have no rebuttal to your logical position”. Can you defend your position when it comes to state marriage laws? Before you make the attempt, the 14th Amendment does not support your gay marriage case.
Fed45 on June 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Ok. I think we are getting too far off topic.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I’m afraid that you have been consistently wrong about what rights are, and who has them.
Where should I get it from then? That is what it is. You don’t want justice, because there is no trial or representation for those charged. It’s mob rule, the Russian Revolution. It’s not American.
Brian1972 on June 11, 2009 at 1:55 PM
I don’t really care about what the Constitution says in regards to gay marriage, I just wanted to get the point across that Mr. Limbaugh does not really believe in freedom for all Americans in a consistent manner. I think that has been established.
The abortion debate is, like the president said, above my paygrade. It is not for me to judge anyone for their deeply personal and private feelings on this issue.
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Who are you talking about?
SouthernGal on June 11, 2009 at 1:57 PM
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