Rasmussen: Plurality wants Porkulus canceled

posted at 10:54 am on June 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The American public has lost patience with the Democrats on Porkulus.  According to the latest Rasmussen polling, a strong plurality of Americans want the stimulus spending canceled.  A majority want the tax cuts extended:

Forty-five percent (45%) of Americans say the rest of the new government spending authorized in the $787-billion economic stimulus plan should now be canceled. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 36% disagree and 20% are not sure.

According to news reports, only $36 billion of the stimulus plan had been spent as of late May.

Just 20% of adults say the tax cuts included in the stimulus plan should be canceled while 55% disagree. The stimulus plan includes $288 billion in tax cuts.

Why keep the tax cuts while dumping the spending?  Tax cuts allow people to spend money themselves, instead of trusting Joe Biden to spend it for them.  It also pushes capital back to the market, which creates jobs, rather than into government where it gets spent inefficiently and thus far hasn’t created anything except summer jobs and temp positions for the Census.

In the crosstabs, the demographics play out poorly for Obama, Pelosi, & Co.  The 18-29 and 65-above demos are evenly split on the question, but all other age demographics favor canceling Porkulus spending.  No group believes that Porkulus actually stimulated the economy or created jobs, almost four months after its passage.  A majority believe that government spending is either bad for the economy or has no impact on it.  Fifty-six percent of Democrats believe that Porkulus spending should continue, a pretty slim majority considering the central nature of the policy to the party, but independents favor killing it 44%-32%.  Almost all income levels strongly favor cancellation, except for the under-$20K demographic, which splits on the question.

The Democrats have a great deal of political exposure on this question.  Thanks to the political tone-deafness of Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama allowed Democrats in Congress to railroad Porkulus while garnering only three Republican votes, one of whom is now a Democratic vote.  Instead of allowing the GOP to participate in the bill’s creation and spreading the responsibility for its eventual failure on both parties, the Democrats own this like no other policy in Washington DC — and they’re about to reap a whirlwind as unemployment and the deficit both vault ever higher.  Unless they start showing some real results — and not just the threadbare “saved or created” line the White House favors — 2010 will turn into a bloodbath for Democratic incumbents who voted for Porkulus.

Update: For some reason, WordPress ate my final draft and published an intermediate one.

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Buy Danish on June 10, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Very good point! While I am cautiously optimistic about the tide starting to turn now, I think there will be a quantum shift when people start figuring their 2009 taxes next year. Hopefully it won’t be too late at that point.

califcon on June 10, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Time is with Conservatives…every day that goes by means more folk have figured out the stinker economic plan is really, really bad.

JIMV on June 10, 2009 at 11:51 AM

All my democrat “acquaintance’s” have become strangly silent in the last few weeks, when there wasen’t a day go by that they weren’t telling me how WONDERFUL “the One” was and how he was gonna Make it “All Good”…….

“Told ya so”….back in NOVEMBER!!!

Foxfire on June 10, 2009 at 11:51 AM

old trooper2 on June 10, 2009 at 11:46 AM

May I add to your list?

- Records and transcripts from Occidental, Columbia and Harvard Law

- The passport he used to travel to Pakistan

califcon on June 10, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Here’s the IRS page on the “Making Work pay” refundable tax credit.

In contrast to Barry’s scheme, the Bush tax credits were non-refundable. Definitions of refundable and non-refundable here.

Buy Danish on June 10, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Personally, I’m looking forward to the bloodbath. Too bad that it will only mean those bastards are voted out of office.

GarandFan on June 10, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Roll it all back.

AUINSC on June 10, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Does that count for the 2008 Election results?

/2010

bluelightbrigade on June 10, 2009 at 11:55 AM

But but there is no time to debate the crap sandwich! We must eat it by Friday at 5:00 p.m. or we are facing a catastrophe!

/wise old-hand Washington David Gergen type January 2009

Ted Torgerson on June 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM

And in case Olberman needed a hint.. Isn’t this more what the tea parties were about?

Keep shouting people they got to hear us sooner or later..

07stang on June 10, 2009 at 11:58 AM

My liberal friends laughed at me when I told them they’d be looking back at the Bush economy with fondness.

Now I have to say Carter.

Chuck Schick on June 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM

califcon, seems reasonable to me. He talked himself into office but no credentials or bona fides furnished.

Sarkozy pegged him as too naive and inexperienced.I concur.
Merkel does not buy into his economics, the Russians punked him on Eastern Europe Missile Defense and the NORKS thumbed their nose and conducted weapons tests and launched a few missiles. Foreign Policy failures for him.

All he has to do is tell more tall tales on Domestic issues and the 2010 elections will get a pound of his flesh. When Congressional Majorities are gone he will be neutered. It will take a decade to recover from his irresponsibility and excesses but it must be done or the Nation is finished.

old trooper2 on June 10, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Its time to publish a list of all the life-time politicians who voted voted this mess and then put forth effort to vote them out. Enough is enough

bluegrass on June 10, 2009 at 12:07 PM

What’s nice is that most of the money hasn’t been spent yet, so it could be repealed.

And think of all the money created or saved that they can waste on GM/Chrysler as a result! And Universal Health Care! It’s win/win!

Or not.

meep on June 10, 2009 at 12:07 PM

The career of anyone who voted for Porkulus should also be canceled.

Christien on June 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Like all democrats, Obama is a dismal failure on foreign policy so the economy is all he really has to attack Republicans with. If he loses that issue, even by a little, he’s doomed.

Kronos on June 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Its time to publish a list of all the life-time politicians who voted voted this mess and then put forth effort to vote them out. Enough is enough

bluegrass on June 10, 2009 at 12:07 PM

If you feel like sorting through the Congressional Record it is Public Info. At this point All Incumbents are suspect save a few. Anyone on any Ethics Committee is suspect, the same for Finance and Judiciary.

old trooper2 on June 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Just watch the unemployment figures and the drop in tax revenues over the next few months. States are already in trouble.Municipalities are on the brink of bankruptcy.

The Fed Figures are pulled out of someones backside. The State figures are more accurate.

old trooper2 on June 10, 2009 at 12:18 PM

The thing about polls: Obama doesn’t care about what others think about him or his policies. He is an ideologue pursuing an agenda. He’s unfortunately supported by a cast of clowns in Congress who think they have some element of influence. Deluded Clowns- he’s using them as he’s used everyone else in his life. Power will have to be WRENCHED from his grubby little paws.

wtis02575 on June 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM

A sleeping giant ia waking up. This is going to get good.

pastorrick on June 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Like with snow and global warming, the unemployment rate will torpedo the naive one.

tarpon on June 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM

The thing about polls: Obama doesn’t care about what others think about him or his policies. He is an ideologue pursuing an agenda. He’s unfortunately supported by a cast of clowns in Congress who think they have some element of influence. Deluded Clowns- he’s using them as he’s used everyone else in his life. Power will have to be WRENCHED from his grubby little paws.

wtis02575 on June 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I disagree to this extent: He VERY much cares about the polls. Yes, he is arrogant, yes he is an ideologue, but he NEEDS the “peasants”. They are the mob who anointed him “messiah”. If the mob turns against him he loses power and he knows it.

That’s why the mad rush, hurry hurry hurry, NO time to wait, MUST pass it NOW or the world ends when each of his agenda items comes up.

wildcat84 on June 10, 2009 at 12:24 PM

It’s just too bad that Americans don’t vote based on policy. Obama is so Sassy!

JohnJ on June 10, 2009 at 12:29 PM

I’d like to see literacy tests come back for voting rights.
I’d love to see a Balanced Budget Amendment and Term Limits too.

old trooper2 on June 10, 2009 at 12:34 PM

“Why keep the tax cuts while dumping the spending?”

I can be as corrupt as I want with my own money, and I’d rather have that than politicians doling it out to their cronies and whoever gives them the bigger campaign contributions.

Dusty on June 10, 2009 at 12:34 PM

…thus far hasn’t created anything except summer jobs and temp positions for the Census.

A little off topic, but has anyone else had a census worker come by and “check” their address with some sort of GPS device? I had one stop by a couple of weeks back who wanted a “reading” by my front door. It took her about 15 minutes to do it; either she didn’t understand the equipment or it didn’t work correctly.

Then yesterday, while collecting my garbage can at the front of the subdivision, a different census worker asked me for directions to an address. I couldn’t give it (I didn’t recognize it) but wondered to myself: she has a GPS, why can’t she find it?

Weird…

In any case, when they get around to asking, I’m only giving them how many people live here and that’s it. If they want to fine me or prosecute me in some fashion for not answering their stupid-ass cultural questions, go for it.

karl9000 on June 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Y’all just keep calling us “racist teabaggers.” We’ll take over the country, thanks.

John the Libertarian on June 10, 2009 at 12:53 PM

It will take more than tea to get the country back, just like the Founding Fathers found out.

old trooper2 on June 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM

If they want to fine me or prosecute me in some fashion for not answering their stupid-ass cultural questions, go for it.
karl9000 on June 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Nah. Just make stuff up if it bugs you. Census takers routinely make stuff up rather than go into scary inner-city neighborhoods and knock on doors.

John the Libertarian on June 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM

The polls really haven’t varied. This was a disastrous move on the part of the administration. It will continue to haunt him.

It’s only just started.

AnninCA on June 10, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Just recall that old quote: It is a recession when your neighbor loses his/her job. It is a depression when you lose yours.

At the current rate there will be a lot of chickens coming home to roost for better than one in ten working folks. It is now on Obama’s watch.

old trooper2 on June 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Just recall that old quote: It is a recession when your neighbor loses his/her job. It is a depression when you lose yours.

Recovery begins when Obama loses his.

BPD on June 10, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Recovery begins when Obama loses his.

BPD on June 10, 2009 at 1:25 PM

That appears to be the case and will be the consensus in another month or two. Folks will vote on their checkbook balances and not on anyone’s rhetoric next time. The BS stops when it gets tougher to make ends meet.

old trooper2 on June 10, 2009 at 1:29 PM

I think its become evident to many that the plan is to dole out a couple billion here and there over the next 3 years and then start REALLY ham-fisting the cash come re-election time.
Money handed DIRECTLY to localities who were on the edge of going Dem last November. After the census has been rigged and shown where the biggest bang for the buck is, the Porkulus will simply become part of his campaign fund.

redneckjoe on June 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM

A little off topic, but has anyone else had a census worker come by and “check” their address with some sort of GPS device?

Yes. After they told me what they were doing, I asked them to skip my house. I doubt they respected my wishes.

MHoffpauir on June 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

messy auction on the 10 year today…. went for 3.99… according to seekingalpha…. not good for the borrow and spenders (or any of us, really)

BPD on June 10, 2009 at 1:44 PM

How dare you highlight these numbers, Ed! Someone, get the Public Opinion Czar on the phone, now!

RightWinged on June 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Someone tell the Republicans in the Senate and House to start yelling about this from the rooftops.

smfoushee on June 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Nah. Just make stuff up if it bugs you.

In that case, I’m an oppressed Uigher! Or however you white people spell it in your ridiculous imperialist language!

Where’s my $12M and ticket to Pala…Palei…. that Allah-damned tropical paradise?

Thanks for the advice!

karl9000 on June 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

You know, some of us saw this coming well over two years ago.

We live in a nation of uneducated idiots.

-Dave

Dave R. on June 10, 2009 at 2:45 PM

1121 cities are currently registered for the TEA party July 4th protest. I wonder how the media will spin the +2 million expected turnout. We all can’t be bible-thumping, gun toting, right-wing extremists. Many are dis-illusioned dems as well.

jbh45 on June 10, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Oh, that one’s easy. It practically writes itself…

“A small minority fringe of the population of the United States turned up at so-called ‘Tea Party’ rallies today. In a thoroughly un-coordinated fashion, these disgruntled extremists gathered at various locations vaguely scattered about the country. These disaffected rabble-rousers clearly represent a tiny minority of popular opinion, since total attendance across the nation was composed of less than 1% of the general population.

They will be shameless about it. Two million people can be spun as meaningless simply by pointing out that they couldn’t “be bothered” to all show up in one place together.

VekTor on June 10, 2009 at 3:04 PM

The way the Obama economic plan is working out, the Carter years or early Reagan years look great.

Jeff from WI on June 10, 2009 at 4:11 PM

These are obviously right wing racist extremist numbers.

elduende on June 10, 2009 at 6:01 PM

This is Shamulus, not Porkulus.

corona on June 10, 2009 at 8:54 PM

I’d like to see literacy tests come back for voting rights.
I’d love to see a Balanced Budget Amendment and Term Limits too.

old trooper2 on June 10, 2009 at 12:34 PM

May I add to your suggestion an amendment that strictly forbids government from owning or managing any portion of any corporation whatsoever?

And another repealing the 16th amendment?

And another that does away with this notion that a citizen has no standing to sue the government?

This government, OUR government, needs to be punished severely for what they are doing to us.

Those who voted for this stimulus should be voted out of office – every single one of them.

We despirately need to significantly reduce the size of our government. Do you really think that if 50% of the Federal government disappeared tomorrow that you would ever notice (other than not having to pay for it)?

When we get to the bottom of the corruption I know of a certain prison that will have (too many) vacancies we can throw these criminals in. Small island, nice view of the ocean, real honest to God marxist govenment right next door.

I have HAD IT with these people.

turfmann on June 11, 2009 at 6:51 AM

despirately = desperately

More coffee, please.

turfmann on June 11, 2009 at 6:52 AM

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