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Health care a stalking horse for nanny-state restrictions

posted at 3:12 pm on June 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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When government pays the bills for health care, it gains an important lever of power in dictating personal choices of living for all its citizens.  Don’t think that has escaped the notice of Barack Obama and the Democrats.  Politico notes that the autocrats have gotten a big boost in Washington and are preparing to dictate your food and leisure choices in the name of cutting health-care costs:

Don’t be fooled by the presidential burger runs. Obama and Congress are moving across several fronts to give government a central role in making America healthier — raising expectations among public health experts of a new era of activism unlike any before.

Any health care reform plan that Obama signs is almost certain to call for nutrition counseling, obesity screenings and wellness programs at workplaces and community centers. He wants more time in the school day for physical fitness, more nutritious school lunches and more bike paths, walking paths and grocery stores in underserved areas.

The president is filling top posts at Health and Human Services with officials who, in their previous jobs, outlawed trans fats, banned public smoking or required restaurants to provide a calorie count with that slice of banana cream pie.

Even Congress is getting into the act, giving serious consideration to taxing sugary drinks and alcohol to help pay for the overhaul.

Supporters of Obama will say at this point, “What’s wrong with healthier eating and more exercise?”  Nothing at all.  Schools should put more emphasis on physical education, especially on cardiovascular exercise and health education.  Americans would do better to consume fewer carbohydrates, especially from high-fructose corn syrup and sugar, and eat more vegetables and fruits, along with lean meat and other sources of protein.

But for adult Americans, that should be their own choice.  We used to have an interesting concept in this country: none of your business.  What did your neighbors eat for dinner?  None of your business. When was the last time your neighbors took a walk?  None of your business.  How much did they spend on doctors’ bills last year?  None of your business.

However, once we all start footing those doctors’ bills, it becomes our business — and that of the government.  Surrendering to a single-payer system means surrendering a right to choice and privacy.  Abdicating individual responsibility for their own costs creates an impetus for the growth of government to fill that vacuum, and it’s hard not to believe it isn’t by design.  The HHS officials Obama appointed have long track records of autocratic diktats, the very kind of elitism that Obama claimed not to endorse during the presidential campaign.

How long before Obama appoints a Health Practices Czar to issue these kinds of mandates?  Don’t be surprised if it becomes part of the current health-care reform bill Congress will produce this year.


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Today is, “no sh!t” day at HA.

TheBigOldDog on June 10, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Oh, good. I was getting so stressed out about having to make all those pesky personal decisions, and that whole personal responsibility thing is such a drag. Free at last!

iurockhead on June 10, 2009 at 3:15 PM

When cake is outlawed, only outlaws will have cake.

Caiwyn on June 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Don’t be fooled by the presidential burger runs. Obama and Congress are moving across several fronts to give government a central role in making America healthier — raising expectations among public health experts of a new era of activism unlike any before.

Welcome to the Animal Farm.

freemarketlibertine on June 10, 2009 at 3:18 PM

When cake is outlawed, only outlaws will have cake.

Caiwyn on June 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM

+100

Daggett on June 10, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Who wants to bet that soon kids will be “encouraged” at school to announce what they had for dinner the night before. And the overseer of the program will be a former Stasi official.

Yet another example of the fascist policies of Dear Leader.

rbj on June 10, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Liberal trolls say: Good! I’m tired of making my own choices. I can’t wait for washington to make them for me.

lorien1973 on June 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM

With each passing day under this administration, I feel like we are heading toward the world in Orwell’s 1984.

search4truth on June 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM

Is there a device we can use to read hotair while doing our government mandated exercises? Would I need to run that by the Internet Czar and the Health Practices Czar?

I’m sure exercising while internet surfing is dangerous,

zmdavid on June 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM

Give me Liberty or Give me Death.

Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Was Obama smokin’ a cigarette when he uttered these latest words of fascist wisdome?

califcon on June 10, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Caiwyn on June 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM

You will pry the cake from my cold, dead fingers.

Rhinoboy on June 10, 2009 at 3:20 PM

smoke ‘em, eat ‘em, and imbibe them if you got them.

freemarketlibertine on June 10, 2009 at 3:20 PM

You know what, I’m ordering a great big cheese pizza this weekend. And cheesesticks. And Mountain Dew. And I’m going to eat and drink it all. Yum. Eat that, Obama.

TheQuestion on June 10, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Would you like regular or diet soylent green for lunch today little Johnny?

Monica on June 10, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Does this mean Bawney Fruitcake Frank will have to go on a diet, get his hairlip fixed and quite engaging in acts of bestiality? Oh, forgot, he’s exempt.

hip shot on June 10, 2009 at 3:21 PM

When cake is outlawed, only outlaws will have cake.

Caiwyn on June 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM

nice!

max1 on June 10, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

CS Lewis.

lorien1973 on June 10, 2009 at 3:21 PM

My neighbors who voted for Obama (they had signs) never take walks and I doubt they exercise at all. I will have to see some proof at least once a year that they do. I’m not kidding.

kahall on June 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM

This most definitly calls for a Soda Pop Czar, Dorito’s Czar and an Exercise Czar.

Knucklehead on June 10, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Where is the collective Democrat conniption fit over loss of privacy? Oh yeah, they won.

txhsmom on June 10, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Here’s what’s wrong with this argument.

The Republicans in charge of CA want to tax everything.

They are just not winning me over.

AnninCA on June 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised if prenatal examinations and healthcare cuts off after the second kid, either — but abortions will be free.

cthulhu on June 10, 2009 at 3:29 PM

“Cigs and burgers for me, but not for thee.”

RegularJoe on June 10, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Hiding in a dimly lit secret bunker with like-minded friends, cleaning my weapons and eating black market bacon…

You can’t deny that there’s a certain appeal, almost romantic, in that kind of imagery.

innominatus on June 10, 2009 at 3:29 PM

How long before they outlaw salt?

Daggett on June 10, 2009 at 3:30 PM

The state of Iowa will become the Turkey capital of the world as traditional bacon is outlawed and replaced with turkey bacon (which in itself should be outlawed). I have my 4 and 7 year kids taught right, they ask explicitly for the “Fatty” pieces of bacon (they are at most on the low end of normal weight for their age).

The loss of freedom is an important part of the message to fight this and all of components of the statists agenda.

WashJeff on June 10, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Give me Liberty or Give me Death.

Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Obamacare will take the liberty of giving you death. Guaranteed!

Puddleglum on June 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM

AnninCA on June 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Your state legislature is majority Democrat isn’t it? The only “Republican” is Arnold and I am pretty sure he’s the only one who thinks he’s a Republican.

Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Time to start thinking about a ’speak-easy’ bakery. Nothing like a boot-leg cupcake.

texan_forever on June 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM

innominatus on June 10, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Can we get some little chocolate donuts stored in the bunker? I’m feeling a little randy myself.

kahall on June 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM

MKH had an excellent song spoofing this kind of nanny state management, called “Obama On My Shoulder” – can anyone link it? It’s a scream (except when it comes true)

rezgirl on June 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM

10 years from now there may be a fight to import Canadian Bacon (which I wish was really bacon not ham) into the US a la importing Canadian drugs today.

WashJeff on June 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Knucklehead on June 10, 2009 at 3:23 PM

What a bunch of busybodies! I am buying ice cream after work.

Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Give me Liberty or Give me Death. a cupcake.
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 3:20 PM

there, fixed it for you.

RUReadingthis on June 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM

To paraphrase Charleton Heston: “You’ll have to pry this beer from my cold dead hands!”

cackcon on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

This most definitly calls for a Soda Pop Czar, Dorito’s Czar and an Exercise Czar.

Knucklehead on June 10, 2009 at 3:23 PM

I hear Bill’s available.

Laura in Maryland on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

AnninCA on June 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Thought you had a democrat majority in CA. And Ahnold doesn’t count, being a RINO and all.

Dee2008 on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

How do I apply for the position of “Liquor Czar”?

ohio kat on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

The president is filling top posts at Health and Human Services with officials who, in their previous jobs, outlawed trans fats, banned public smoking or required restaurants to provide a calorie count with that slice of banana cream pie.

As much as I fear what these people will do, I’m actually okay with this short list of things.
I mean, trans fats only exist because they were supposed to be a healthy alternative to real food, public smoking is infringing on everyone around you, and nutrition labels on menus and such allow for educated personal decisions.

Count to 10 on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Even Congress is getting into the act, giving serious consideration to taxing sugary drinks and alcohol to help pay for the overhaul.

When the day comes, time to go John Galt. I can live without both.

Kalifornia Kafir on June 10, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Just waiting for the toilet seat czar to be appointed. No more old white men leaving the seat up!

coyoterex on June 10, 2009 at 3:35 PM

MKH had an excellent song spoofing this kind of nanny state management, called “Obama On My Shoulder” – can anyone link it? It’s a scream (except when it comes true)

rezgirl on June 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Here. . I cracked up at the little BO doll. “Obama!” heh.

TheQuestion on June 10, 2009 at 3:35 PM

It goes much deeper than this because mental health falls under health care.

Under the guise of promoting better mental health, they can start dictating not only what people eat and do physically, but also what they read and watch.

I can just imagine, “It’s not that Hot Air is bad. We love people expressing opposing view points. The problem is that you get so stressed out when you read it. Really, for your own mental health, we’re going to have to forbid you from reading that again. Just to be on the safe side, Fox News should be out too. Look, here’s a nice piece of escapist fluff fiction for you to enjoy!”

JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM

It is time for those who voted for change to seriously evaluate the change we are ALL getting. Maybe the day will come when they will see the point the Tea Party crowd is attempting to make. Yes, I know…good luck with that. I am just trying to keep the “HOPE” in play.

truetexan on June 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM

zmdavid on June 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM

Um, I think there will be some “scientist” who will come up with a “study” showing that reading right-side blogs cause high blood pressure or something. Thus, for your health, such blogs will have to be outlawed. This is not a First Amendment issue, but cuts much deeper into one’s health. After all, what good is “free speech” if you are dead. Instead, you’ll be allowed to listen to Maureen Dowd read a selection of her columns.

rbj on June 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM

I’m going to rely on my built up stores of fat to get through the fossil fuelless winters we have coming.

zmdavid on June 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Give me Liberty or Give me Death. a cupcake.
Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 3:20 PM

there, fixed it for you.

RUReadingthis on June 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Actually it’d be:
Give me Libertya Cupcake or Give me Death.

Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Hey, let’s start with having every single person in the administration and in the congress follow all of the inane rules they want to impose on us – dollars for donuts (and donuts will be allowed again) they’ll back off this intrusion into our lives.

redfoxbluestate on June 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Obama thinks he can carry Philadelphia in 2012, and still try to eliminate the cholesterol-packed Philadelphia cheese steak? The purist’s version has bright orange Cheeze-Whiz.

Wethal on June 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM

This most definitly calls for a Soda Pop Czar, Dorito’s Czar and an Exercise Czar.

Knucklehead on June 10, 2009 at 3:23 PM

I’m available to be the Chocolate Czar.

And I’m willing to relocate to Hershey.

Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM

JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Dang it, JadeNYU, are we going to have adjoining Gitmo cells?

rbj on June 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM

…fight to import Canadian bacon….

WashJeff on June 10,2009 at 3:32PM.

WashJeff: I`ll set up a stall,near one of the borders,
*Wink-Wink*,and barter fine Canadian bacon,
where there is a will,theres a way!!haha:)

canopfor on June 10, 2009 at 3:38 PM

What a bunch of busybodies! I am buying ice cream after work.

Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM

I’m nominating you for Pudding Czar.

Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Caiwyn at 3:16 PM

I’m trading in my corn mash still for an easy-bake oven. How long before there’s a fleet of old school Nascar types out-running the cops to deliver their moonshine cake to the black market.
.
Does anyone know how we go about repealing Prohibition AGAIN?

Mark30339 on June 10, 2009 at 3:38 PM

If we’d had a “Fat Czar” in the early 1900s, he/she would have been forcing us all to eat trans fats. So…what new improved thingy will they force us into now, that will eventually give us all cancer and kill us?

Dee2008 on June 10, 2009 at 3:39 PM

As much as I fear what these people will do, I’m actually okay with this short list of things.
I mean, trans fats only exist because they were supposed to be a healthy alternative to real food, public smoking is infringing on everyone around you, and nutrition labels on menus and such allow for educated personal decisions.

Count to 10 on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

All those things can be done voluntarily. You can ask about trans fat at restaurants. You can not frequent restaurants that allow smoking. You can request nutrition information at restaurants and not frequent those that do not have them. Respect for other’s properties and rights is more important.

WashJeff on June 10, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Count to 10 on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

I’m o.k. with the concepts, but not the government dictating this stuff to businesses.

If, as a restaurant owner, I want to provide a smoking section, I should be allowed to do that. It’s a private business and no one is required to eat or work there.

Same with trans fats. As long as people aren’t lying about what they’re using to cook with and they aren’t using things that aren’t actually edible (or are poisonous like arsenic), it should fall on the business owner to decide what they offer and the consumer to decide what they buy. Having anyone else in the arrangement is superfluous.

JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:39 PM

I’m available to be the Chocolate Czar.

And I’m willing to relocate to Hershey.

Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM

The Chocolate Czar will be based in New Orleans.

zmdavid on June 10, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Dee2008 on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Methinks you guys may be tracking a Trollus Concernus.

LastRick on June 10, 2009 at 3:40 PM

It’s not that Hot Air is bad. We love people expressing opposing view points. The problem is that you get so stressed out when you read it.

JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM

I agree 100%. And the only solution is to eat more chocolate.

Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 3:40 PM

rbj on June 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Quite possibly.

It looks like we’re suffering from a form of shared hysteria.

Quick….to the reprogramming center…errr…I mean the mental hospital!

JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:41 PM

This most definitly calls for a Soda Pop Czar Nazi, Dorito’s Czar Nazi, and an Exercise Czar Nazi.

Knucklehead on June 10, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Let’s stop joking about these labels and label them for what they are. Using czar is too kind a word.

BuckeyeSam on June 10, 2009 at 3:41 PM

The Chocolate Czar will be based in New Orleans.

zmdavid on June 10, 2009 at 3:40 PM

I don’t care. Have Chocolate? Will travel.

Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 3:41 PM

And I`m willing to relocate to Hershey.

Loxondonta on June 10,2009 at 3:37PM.

Loxondonta: This Hershey,you speak of,I hope its not
located on a highway!!:)(And,I`m kidding,Lox):)

canopfor on June 10, 2009 at 3:42 PM

It’s not that Hot Air is bad. …
JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM

I agree 100%. And the only solution is to eat more chocolate.

Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Might need add a little liquor to that chocolate (safe).

WashJeff on June 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Changing the subject today.
for you trolls, It is green thursday. Remember to flush your toilet today.

seven on June 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

How can you stretch the words of the constitution to make something like this even remotely possible. It’s enough to make Hamiliton regret publishing the Federalist Papers.

bob4096 on June 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

[..]
If, as a restaurant owner, I want to provide a smoking section, I should be allowed to do that. It’s a private business and no one is required to eat or work there.
[..]

JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:39 PM

What? You want to be able to run your business the way you want? No.

kahall on June 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

As a Vermonter I’ve been listening to this crap about socialized healthcare from our State Political Commissar Bernie Sanders for years. I never actually thought that anyone was actually stupid enough to give it a try.

Shock the Monkey on June 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Let’s stop joking about these labels and label them for what they are. Using czar is too kind a word.

BuckeyeSam on June 10, 2009 at 3:41 PM

You vill exercize und you vill enjoy it. Dat ist ein order. [Slaps riding whip on leg.]

Wethal on June 10, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Changing the subject today.
for you trolls, It is green thursday. Remember to flush your toilet today.

seven on June 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Thanks, except it is actually aqua marine Wednesday.

kahall on June 10, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Quick….to the reprogramming center…errr…I mean the mental hospital!

JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Please watch this video about our god, Obama, and how great he has been for our nation.

WashJeff on June 10, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Enforcement will be interesting. I’m thinking exercise and diet restrictions will only be enforced selectively based on politics. Like voter intimidation laws and the tax code.

And to enforce these regulations, you would need a civilian security force as well funded as the military.

zmdavid on June 10, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Count to 10 on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

For pete’s sake – that’s how it starts. Then comes mandatory walk time in the evening, no more chips or French fries, no more beer etc. You can’t let the government regulate a little on the stuff YOU agree with and then get all worked up when they continue with stuff you don’t.
It’s people like you who grease the slippery slope.

dpierson on June 10, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I am the state.
- Barackito Obamalini

MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 3:48 PM

It occurs to me that I have been paying for the excellent healthcare of our Congress, not to mention paying for the crappy Medicare and Medicaid programs for years.

And yet, I have not gotten to tell anyone how to live their lives. Not fair. Not fair at all.

myrenovations on June 10, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I am the state.
- Barackito Obamalini Papa Doc Barack

MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 3:48 PM

myrenovations on June 10, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 3:38 PM

But not banana pudding, because I don’t like that. It pretty much has to be chocolate.

Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 3:50 PM

AnninCA on June 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

These would be the same Republicans that united against a tax increase…pardon me…fee increase which only pass because ONE Republican defected over to the side with all the Democrats…?

Do you honestly think that it’s the CA Republicans that are trying to raise your taxes (especially in comparison to the plans of the CA Democrats)? If so, where are you getting the information that’s causing you to form these beliefs?

I would be interested to know because, all of the evidence that I’ve seen has led me to conclude that it is the Dems in CA that are focusing on raising taxes. If you could provide evidence to the contrary, I’d really appreciate it.

JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:51 PM

I haven’t seen those Richard Simmons infomercials for “Sweating to the Oldies” videotapes lately. So maybe he’s free to be exercise czar.

Wethal on June 10, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Any health care reform plan that Obama signs is almost certain to call for nutrition counseling, obesity screenings and wellness programs at workplaces and community centers.

Of course, some will be exempt.

MB4 on June 10, 2009 at 3:52 PM

LastRick on June 10, 2009 at 3:40 PM

I know, sometimes if you throw logic at them, POOF!! they are gone. Not always. I think this particular one takes that California thing to the nth degree. She like a sterotype in text from the land of fruits and nuts. Karma, baby, karma!!!

Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 3:53 PM

I have my doubts that a burger eating cigarette smoking POTUS is going to introduce draconian health measures. If it is proposed legislation or if there is someone in the Administration advocating this then it is worth discussing.

lexhamfox on June 10, 2009 at 3:53 PM

As much as I fear what these people will do, I’m actually okay with this short list of things.
I mean, trans fats only exist because they were supposed to be a healthy alternative to real food, public smoking is infringing on everyone around you, and nutrition labels on menus and such allow for educated personal decisions.

Count to 10 on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Trans fats, bacon, or my kids ice cream. HANDS OFF! That’s the irony, you won’t have any educated personal choices to make because you’re assumed too STUPID to make the correct choices. Double ironic, cig’s are so bad for your health but oh, so good, for the coffers!

rezgirl on June 10, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Health Care Czar says air conditioning and too much heat in winter is unhealthy, so household thermostats will be adjusted accordingly. Be thankful for a caring state.

petefrt on June 10, 2009 at 3:54 PM

O/T: Carrie Prejean fired as Miss California. Per Drudge and Fox News.

Ferris on June 10, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Ugh. It’s going to be one giant Mike-Bloomberg-inspired health fascist country. Perhaps there will be one square mile of the Arizona desert demarcated as “America’s Smoking Section.”

“Hey babe, I’m going out for a smoke. I’ll be back on July 15th.”

Fallen Sparrow on June 10, 2009 at 3:56 PM

I’m moving somewhere there’s more liberty, like China or Venezuela.

Daggett on June 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Um, I think there will be some “scientist” who will come up with a “study” showing that reading right-side blogs cause high blood pressure or something. Thus, for your health, such blogs will have to be outlawed.

rbj on June 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM

I accidentally left my TV on Fox News after 3 p.m. and caught Shep Smith ranting about how dangerous blogs are, how they gin up anger and cause people to pick up guns. Of course, all his examples put conservatives in the worst possible light. I shot him an email reminding him that crazies exist at both ends of the spectrum but I don’t expect him to take it to heart.

Dee2008 on June 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM

There is no rational need for “assault” bacon…

catmman on June 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 3:50 PM

I don’t care, just as long as it’s chocolate.

Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Dee2008 on June 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Shep Smith is an idiot – had die in a hall of mirrors he is so vain.

dpierson on June 10, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Give me Liberty or Give me Death by Chocolate!

Skywise on June 10, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Cause if you’ve gotta go, then really, might as well smile on the way out.

DrAllecon on June 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM

JadeNYU on June 10, 2009 at 3:51 PM

So far, this seems to be the best approach. Simply ask for supporting evidence of a claim, then poof, no more posting in that thread.

Loxodonta on June 10, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Better quality of life and more lives saved are achieved by EARLY DETECTION AND TREATMENT than preventive care.

ObammyCrapCare will have a terrible negative impact on early detection and treatment.

Blake on June 10, 2009 at 4:02 PM

I have my doubts that a burger eating cigarette smoking POTUS is going to introduce draconian health measures. If it is proposed legislation or if there is someone in the Administration advocating this then it is worth discussing.

lexhamfox on June 10, 2009 at 3:53 PM

The problem is that Papa Doc Barack and the other Nanny Staters is that they believe they are smart enough to handle the occasional slice of bacon, piece of pie or alcoholic beverage.

It’s the little people, the minions, who cannot be trusted to take care of themselves. Decisions must be made for them because they are too stupid or lazy to do the “right” things.

But, the sugary drinks and junk foods won’t be banned. They will be sin taxed. So, we’ll still be paying for healthcare for people who choose not to take care of themselves. We’ll also be paying extra for our own indulgences.

myrenovations on June 10, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Cause if you’ve gotta go, then really, might as well smile on the way out.

DrAllecon on June 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Chocolateboarding it is.

WashJeff on June 10, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Cindy Munford on June 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Dee2008 on June 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Methinks you guys may be tracking a Trollus Concernus.

LastRick on June 10, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Yup…and of all the trolls at HA, Ann may be the only one who readily admits it. She’s a handy target for sharpening our arguments, and tho she sometimes makes me a little crazy, I think she’s also a pretty nice person. So I’m glad she’s here. After all, what fun would we have here if we all agreed?

Dee2008 on June 10, 2009 at 4:04 PM

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