Ramirez: How proliferation works
posted at 11:38 am on June 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
How does one encourage nuclear proliferation? First, you maintain a decades-long strong stance on enforcement of proliferation treaties. Next, hint that you don’t have the stamina to enforce it with the most non-rational and dangerous nation in a region, and suddenly the rest of the flock appears:

In this case, it would be difficult to blame the rest of the nations in the region. Americans tend to think of the “Muslim world” as a monolithic entity, but in practice, the various Islamic nations are anything but united. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan can abide a nuclear Iran only slightly more than Israel. A nuclear Iran would immediately pursue regional hegemony over the Arab world, a millenia-old dream of the Persians and an equally long nightmare of the Arabs. A lack of enforcement now would touch off an arms race, with weapons not being held by ideological but rational actors like the US and Soviet Union but the messianic mullahs of Iran. The problem would quickly overwhelm the West, and a nuclear war would almost be a certainty.
Ramirez has a terrific collection of his works: Everyone Has the Right to My Opinion, which covers the entire breadth of Ramirez’ career, and it gives a fascinating look at political history. Read my review here, and watch my interviews with Ramirez here and here. And don’t forget to check out the entire IBD site, while individual investors still exist.










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Ripper:
Mandrake, I suppose it never occurred to you that while we’re chatting here so enjoyably, a decision is being made by the President and the Joint Chiefs in the war room at the Pentagon. And when they realize there is no possibility of recalling the wing, there will be only one course of action open: total committment.
Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenzo once said about war?
Mandrake:
No. I don’t think I do sir, no.
Ripper:
He said war was to important to be left to the Generals. When he said that, fifty years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
3rdpartypatriot on June 9, 2009 at 11:39 AM
i love Ramirez.
moonbatkiller on June 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Yeah, about sums it up.
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM
When NY gets wiped out by a nuclear blast, we can all look back at the Obama administration as the beginning of that type of world. Even Russia will rue the day it allowed Iran to jump into the nuclear family. Goodbye Earth. You have a good run.
GrammarPolice on June 9, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Ramirez hits it out of the park every time.
Obama has killed non-proliferation…his weakness has guaranteed it is dead. Under his watch, soon the only country without a viable nuclear deterrent with be the US…great time to get rid of the missile shield as well.
AUINSC on June 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmm…………..
……….. Persians vs Arabs.
What could go wrong….?
Seven Percent Solution on June 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Look on the bright side. Maybe nukes will finally force the children to grow up.
John the Libertarian on June 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Could Iran want the map to look like this again?
WashJeff on June 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Obama should strongarm North Korea like Bush/Cheney did. Show no weakness.
Palin Steele on June 9, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Whoa! Time out. Did Ramirez borrow an idea from Gary Varvel? I have this same cartoon at my desk from a few months ago — only instead of an atom on the bag there were the words “Bail Out.”
Will be back later for link to cartoon in question. Prolly over at townhall.com….
apostic on June 9, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Heh, excellent little comic…as usual (as someone else said). I may have to pick up that book one day.
Heresy of Cain on June 9, 2009 at 11:55 AM
What I was just saying, this is very similar to the one here.
apostic on June 9, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I remember what Saddam said before he shuffled off this mortal coil. He said to his executioners, “I kept you safe from the Persians.” When you have Muslim on Muslim conflict with nukes there wouldn’t be a safe corner of the world to hide in. I think that kind of world is like what the Bible refers to as the end times when “men’s hearts will fail them.”
Mojave Mark on June 9, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Ramirez has become my favorite political cartoonist.
Great stuff always.
-Dave
Dave R. on June 9, 2009 at 12:03 PM
There is no “Muslim World”. It’s a collection of tribes that consider anyone outside their sect to be apostates that need to submit or die.
Ask the Sufis how they feel about the “Muslim World”.
Asher on June 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Troll alert.
the_nile on June 9, 2009 at 12:06 PM
You missed the other region; Japan, and maybe Taiwan and South Korea, will be on the list of nations with a lot of reason…and plenty of ability…to go nuclear.
Ragspierre on June 9, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Who cares what the muslims think? Who cares about whether they are all part of one big cult or not? Who cares about them and their book of murder and mayhem. We ought to care about the manchurian muslim at 1600 PA Ave. and his “don’t ask don’t tell” nuclear glee club policy…. Seoul will be a mushroom cloud in about 6 months, Tokyo, shortly thereafter, and who knows? Iran is taking it’s cues from the insane Nork leaders. What we do or don’t do tells them what they could and can do…. to us.
HomeoftheBrave on June 9, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Tiny little countries on the other side of the world shouldn’t worry the United States.
Besides, we have the Spine of Steel to protect us.
Bishop on June 9, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Maybe nukes will finally force the children not to grow up.
(FIFY.)
Lourdes on June 9, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Iran with nuclear weapons is the same thing as giving Castro the controls. In other words, maniacal.
Lourdes on June 9, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I strongly doubt I am alone in my opinions here, which I’ll express as this: Obama is the double-agent provocateur that the gang who hates Democracy/Capitalism has been working for since the Sixties. He’s laying down the red (though as yet, still not clearly visible) carpet for the worst to walk on in for their rewards.
Lourdes on June 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM
That is the single most frightening thing I have ever read here.
redshirt on June 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM
the Spine of Banana Peel…it’s yellow,mushy and floppy.
ohellno on June 9, 2009 at 12:16 PM
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Yeah,… Right… That will really scare the psyco Norks.
The Norks know they are dealing with a puss who’s motto is be apologetic and carry a big wad of limp spaghetti.
Kuffar on June 9, 2009 at 12:16 PM
The kids in my neighborhood love to play with matches and fireworks.
mechkiller_k on June 9, 2009 at 12:22 PM
The liberal genaration has for gotten the horror of a nuke bomb damage and aftermath.
Barry and his ilk will see that that soon enough. God help us.
grapeknutz on June 9, 2009 at 12:30 PM
No need to worry, it’s not necessary for The One to get tough on this issue. He can leave it to Sheriff Joe to keep an eye on the crazy regimes, just like he keeps watch over the Porkulus money.
red winger on June 9, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Amen nile! Supremely ignorant troll alert. It resided at Aces before squeezing through to HA. Feel free to nuke it!
freeus on June 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Persians verses the Arabs. Is that the new “camo” way to say Shia verses Sunni?
By the way, America is a Sunni Muslim nation.
BL@KBIRD on June 9, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Powerful
faraway on June 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Yes, Bush failed on that account for sure. I can freely admit that. Which is something the Obamatons can never admit their leader is capable of doing.
Bunch a freaking followers of Thulsa Doom they are.
redshirt on June 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM
I am sure Palin Steele has a lovely Marvel cartoon analogy – as he did over at Aces… and got humiliated in the process.
Good times.
Odie1941 on June 9, 2009 at 12:51 PM
It’s like a fight between the communists and the fascists. I don’t care who wins, I just want them to beat the sh*t out of each other.
Aww, it’s that tool from Ace of Spades blog, right? You really should change your nick there, bubeleh.
mjk on June 9, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Heh. This just represents another place for PS to get it’s head handed back.
Seems AOS was a bit more than it could handle.
Good times.
irongrampa on June 9, 2009 at 12:55 PM
3rd party – please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rain water, and help yourself to whatever you’d like.
Mike D. on June 9, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Look if we don’t let ran get the bomb then it just makes more countries want it.
Up is down…black is white…the department of truth has arrived.
jukin on June 9, 2009 at 1:01 PM
oops preview is your friend.
ran=Iran
jukin on June 9, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Beautiful!
Green Muse on June 9, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Here goes another…
Ripper:
Mandrake. Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure grain alcohol?
Mandrake:
Well it did occur to me, Jack, yes.
Ripper:
Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation? Fluoridation of water?
Dunno whether it’s reading about North Korea or watching our own government here, but I keep thinking about this movie these days.
-3pp
3rdpartypatriot on June 9, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Why will we never learn from the mistakes made in our past? Europe’s capitulation in the mid to late 30′s only emboldened the Axis. Sooner or later, the UN is going to have to grow some cajones about SOMETHING. Passing meaningless resolution after meaningless resolution with no intention of enforcing them is not exactly a deterrant!
search4truth on June 9, 2009 at 1:17 PM
The devastation and agony that nuclear weapons represent can only be held at bay by those for whom life is precious.
Muslim leaders who can countenance sending pregnant women, children and mentally handicapped out as homicide bombers are not people for whom life is precious. They will not hesitate to use nuclear weapons against the infidel. The more reluctant of them may not use the weapons themselves but provide them to surrogates hoping to avoid direct connection and retaliation. Either way, the bombs will be used. The only question is who gets the first hit.
SKYFOX on June 9, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Bush’s deal with India didn’t exactly do nonproliferation any favors, nor does our policy of nuclear ambiguity WRT Israel. The reality is that for most Presidents of both parties nonproliferation takes a back seat to other policy priorities. For Israel, it’s our long-standing alliance, for India, it’s a recognition of their growing economic and political power. For Iran it’s a realization that we cannot prevent them from having enrichment technology – they’ve already crossed the Rubicon on that score and Bush didn’t do much in the end to prevent that either because, again, other policy priorities (Iraq) were more important.
NPP on June 9, 2009 at 1:29 PM
All the arabs need are 300 good warriors, and a narrow pass somewhere.
MarkTheGreat on June 9, 2009 at 1:33 PM
We need a couple of moles inside the GE plant that makes the switches for those nukes. Bomb detonates on launchpad. The End.
Jed1899 on June 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Obama gets scarier and scarier.
kirkill on June 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM
As the arab said, “Americans like Diet Pepsi, Arabs like death.”
kirkill on June 9, 2009 at 1:41 PM
The Saracuda woulda answered better than that!
Jed1899 on June 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Barry will send out some more ‘stern’ warnings followed by some of that ‘smart diplomacy’. In other words, we’re fucked.
GarandFan on June 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM
From their culture’s point of view, growing up means being willing to sacrifice the lives of millions of yourself and your countrymen in an effort to destroy the infidels.
Ask yourself what WWII-era Japan would’ve done in the face of a nuclear standoff. They’d say “some sacrifices are necessary”.
Which, not that I think of it, may be what Obama says when that nuke goes off in NYC.
hawksruleva on June 9, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Christopher Hill hijacked the Bush administartion’s NorK policy, so it’s hard to say what their desired position really was. I imagine that Bush & Cheney’s thoughts were somewhat different than the career negotiators over at State.
But it would’ve been hard to bring Congress along with tough sanctions. As it is, Obama will have a tough time inspecting NorK ships, because Il will threaten military action, and Congress will faint. Can you imagine Pelosi on the Sunday talk shows if Bush had tried doing a blockade?
All that aside, Bush’s policy ended up being wrong on NK. That’s no excuse for Obama to continue it, and I hope he gets tough, like they’ve been talking lately.
hawksruleva on June 9, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Obama personifies weakness and this is because he employs a policy of disengagement with evil. He is not a student of the past geopolitical world and rather remains subservient to everything he grew up with from Wright, Ayers and Khalidi. It is painfully obvious as he says Iran has a right to nuclear energy despite the fact overwhelming evidence stares at him illustrating that Iran is in the nuclear business solely to weaponize long range missles and expand its aleady dangerous arc of hegemony. Obama views our friends and allies with suspicion because he was taught this (see France, Germany, Israel). Obama has resorted to dictating to our friends while at the same time telling the Arab world that the US will no longer dictate to them; most of whom are our enemies and the source of much of the world’s current evil).
This is the policy of acquiescence and fail if ever there was one.
H8Caliph8 on June 9, 2009 at 2:28 PM
The nightmare scenario of a nuclear arms race in the Middle East has been a reality for at least three years, if not more. I am unsure if anything that Obama could have said at his Cairo speech could have done more to green light this than his announcement that we do not have the moral authority to say whether any nation should have a nuclear weapon. It is akin to Dean Acheson announcement in 1950 that America’s “line of defense” stopped short of Korea.
Wolf Howling on June 9, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Ramirez for Media & Information Czar!
trace_9r on June 9, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Is that Five Guys in the the bag?
Did he order it w/ Dijon?
bluelightbrigade on June 9, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Nuclear war in regions that (A) provide most of the world’s oil or (B) provide most of the world’s electronic goods doesn’t sound so privy to me I’m afraid.
And as usual Ramirez hits it on the head.
I’ve already bought his book. I wish he would release another one with his new comics.
Chaz706 on June 9, 2009 at 3:50 PM
May I also add World leaders who typically allow entire swathes of their civilian population to die in famine to that list? I think it fits the description of ‘those who don’t respect the lives of others’.
Chaz706 on June 9, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Where are you going to find a narrow pass in the desert?
Chaz706 on June 9, 2009 at 3:55 PM
I love seeing Ramirez cartoons more often on this site.
LtBarnwell02 on June 9, 2009 at 4:20 PM
I use to think that mother earth only had a self life of 12 years left. I now believe that was an optimistic thinking.
SPIFF1669 on June 9, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Obama’s naive outlook on life, much like the youth’s that helped him get elected.
scotash on June 10, 2009 at 2:54 AM