Nation: Obama in big trouble if unemployment rises further
posted at 10:55 am on June 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The Obama administration predicted that the massive deficit spending Barack Obama pushed in the stimulus would save the country from runaway unemployment, which they defined as 8.8%. With unemployment racing higher than the doomsday predictions after spending $800 billion on liberal pet projects, even the Left has realized that this presidency could be in serious trouble. John Nichols at The Nation warns that crossing the double-digit mark on unemployment will pin the problem not on Obama’s predecessor, but on Obama himself:
When the federal government actually acknowledges that the country has a double-digit unemployment rate, when a figure that is above 10 percent becomes that official number — something that the trend lines suggest could happen this summer — the country reaches an emotional and political tipping point.
“Ten is a tangible, very clear reminder that this is a severe recession,” explains Ohio State University economics professor Bruce Weinberg. “Ten becomes something psychological. People will say: ‘Whoa, we’ve got a double-digit unemployment rate.’”
Politically, it is the point at which people start looking for someone to blame. Obama and his people will blame the president’s predecessor. This is appropriate, as George Bush’s economic and regulatory policies were incredibly unsound and destructive.
The problem, of course, is that the blame game gets harder when it becomes possible to link a sitting president’s actions to soaring unemployment figures.
States that have been especially hard hit by the current recession — Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, among others — and urban areas that have been devastated by it (according to the Labor Department, 93 metropolitan areas registering an unemployment rate of at least 10 percent in April) now face the prospect of significant additional job losses in the coming months as a result of the administration’s auto bailout scheme.
John and I have widely divergent ideas on economics, and John’s argument in this piece is that Obama hasn’t been radical enough in his approach to the economic crisis. He dislikes Obama’s current economic team mainly because they aren’t progressive enough. John objects to the bailout not because of the government overreach and its movement towards corporatism, but because the restructuring will result in lost jobs. Of course, the option here was bankruptcy, which would have also resulted in lost jobs — but would have cost the American taxpayers a lot less in the short and long terms.
Interestingly, we agree on the main points, but couldn’t agree less on the underlying arguments. AndI give John high marks for intellectual honesty in this passage:
In fact, the real unemployment rate, as opposed to the official rate, is well over 15 percent.
That’s because the official unemployment rate — which as of Friday stood at at 9.4 percent, following another leap in jobless claims for May — is not, as economist John Williams has noted, “figured in the way that that the average person thinks of unemployment, meaning figured the way it was estimated back during the Great Depression.”
Normally, the Left likes to trot that out during Republican administrations and leave it in the barn during Democratic presidencies.
Even if we wildly disagree on economics, we agree that Obama will own this unemployment cycle, and soon. The 10% mark is a psychological barrier that Obama simply cannot avoid. Even without it, blaming Bush has a shelf life whose expiration date is rapidly approaching. Bush didn’t spend trillions of dollars in 2009 and promise that it would create “or save” jobs. Voters will get tired of hearing how many jobs Obama thinks he’s “saved” while unemployment continues to rise.
Obama has been in charge for almost five months and got every single bit of economic policy he wanted from Congress. If the economy remains mired and debt keeps skyrocketing, people will start to ask what they got for all of their great-grandchildren’s money. Even a Party of No will look pretty good in comparison under those conditions, and perhaps especially so.










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More Funemployment for everybody!
hawksruleva on June 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Meanwhile state run media will continue to hold up the turd by its clean end.
petefrt on June 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM
The perfect storm is approaching. Elected Dems ruling the country and some of the most whacked out leadership that party has ever seen.
False gods once again get smitten.
Hening on June 9, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Don’t forget that Obama does not include those that are “sacrificing” their jobs as a result of his dictates in the unemployment numbers. In fact, he places them in the “jobs saved” column. “Saved” because, like money in a savings account, they are ready to be used when needed.
BobMbx on June 9, 2009 at 11:35 AM
ACORN.
hungrymongo on June 9, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Been unemployed for almost a year now with no real prospects in sight. The big O was supposed to solve all my problems and it hasn’t happend yet. I’m beginning to think that all those Obama voters were wrong! ;o)
glennbo on June 9, 2009 at 11:36 AM
I believe the actual figure is around 16%.
a capella on June 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM
He may walk on water, but he ain’t walking on SCOTUS……unless there’s a new SCOTUS Czar to threaten them.
Knucklehead on June 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM
It’s not fair to use that number, though. The traditional number puts it at 9.4%.
lorien1973 on June 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Here in Michigan, we passed 10% about a year ago. Oh what a happy time that was…
ConservativeLawStudent on June 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Statistics mean nothing to those who have lost their jobs.
Amazing how these Marxists continue to try to beat square pegs into round holes decade after decade. Even Moscow figured out it wasn’t working.
Dr. ZhivBlago on June 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM
I want everyone to remember that quote………
…………. especially when hyper-inflation hits.
Seven Percent Solution on June 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Will probably even be worse. Those Americans who don’t have the money to buy the car will probably be deemed by Obama to be entitled to one. Why should only rich white people get rebates on cars?
So not only will the taxpayers pay for the rebates, but there will probably also be transfers of wealth to other Americans to buy the car itself.
A chicken in every pot, a car in every driveway.
JiangxiDad on June 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Yeah, but just keep anticipating how they will handle it when they can no longer hold back the growing wave. One of them will have to break, and the rest will then stampede through the gap. Hope I live to see it. I wonder who will be the first to spit rather than swallow.
a capella on June 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Wecome Back Carter! My father told me to prepare for your return!
rukiddingme on June 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM
What makes any of you think that if the unemployment rate does go double digit, that it will be reported? You all misunderestimate this administration.
bloggless on June 9, 2009 at 11:42 AM
The stimulus bill is a complete bust, but I knew it was a disaster, as did many people.
It’s hard to understand how Alaska’s legislature is considering overriding Palin’s veto on the energy portion. I saw polls showing that the majority of Alaskans agreed with her on this issue. It’s hard to grasp why SC gov. is in hot water and forced to take it. The public doesn’t agree with this bill or with the budget. The polls I’m seeing indicate that real people “get” that the stimulus was a complete boondoggle.
Yet?
Hard to figure out politics sometimes.
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Smitten, or smote? And I hope the storm washes many out to sea.
JiangxiDad on June 9, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Didn’t FDR threaten the SCOTUS?
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Perhaps the WaPo. With the NY Times nearly gone, and the jig up for the liberal media, they will have the opportunity to “rehabilitate” themselves and claim the prize of the newspaper of record.
JiangxiDad on June 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Personally, I think cap-and-trade will put the kiss of death on many Dems.
The energy companies are not about to let that get passed without making sure every single person in this country knows what it costs them in increased taxes.
That will blister Congress.
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM
And it will.
Reminds me of the arrogance the TITANIC builders… “NOT EVEN GOD CAN SINK HER!” Well..
CynicalOptimist on June 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Until the press stops fawning over Obama and crew he has nothing to worry about. Unemployment going over 10% can be spun any number of ways and the Obamarites will buy it.
They have to. They are in too deep.
patrick neid on June 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM
I’ve never seen the press NOT report bad news. *haha
That is their bread and butter.
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM
This “I’ve saved/created “X number” of jobs” canard is getting absurdly comical. Really, Barry? Well, here’s a question for you: How many jobs have you lost? Oh yeah, “X + 1.5 million”. This fuzzy math is nothing different than measuring your play at a Vegas blackjack table by simply counting all the money you got from the bets you won. You might very well have “won” $500 on those bets. But if you lost the $5,000 you came to the table with, how stupid is that as a measure of how well you did?
ieplaya on June 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Oh yeah, he sure did.
Franklin D. Roosevelt came into conflict with the Supreme Court during his period in office. The chief justice, Charles Hughes, had been the Republican Party presidential candidate in 1916. Herbert Hoover appointed Hughes in 1930 and had led the court’s opposition to some of the proposed New Deal legislation. This included the ruling against the National Recovery Administration (NRA), the Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA) and ten other New Deal laws.
Sound familiar?
Knucklehead on June 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM
I always say, it’s not important who Obama appoints, it’s how many.
FDR attempted to “Pack the Court”
Brat on June 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM
If SCOTUS does the right thing with the Chrysler case. Then all I can say is “I hope the One’s brakes work!”
HoustonRight on June 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Some of them will buy it, some won’t.
I think that the newspapers and TV news crews will start being less generous with their coverage when advertising dollars dry up because Obama and company have screwed up GM, Chrysler, and the dealers, all of which tend to buy lots of ad-space and TV time.
(Even if they can replace those lost customers, the reduced competition for getting ads aired and/or printed will drive down ad rates at a time when newspapers in particular can’t afford to lose more money.)
teke184 on June 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Not completely appropriate. This is a debt problem and the federal government is on the hook for an amount that makes the mortgage losses pale by comparison. Bush may have helped bring things to a head with Medicare Part D and TARP I, but this has been a long time a-brewin’. It started with the Federal Reserve Act, kicked into high gear under FDR and LBJ, and now skidding to the finish line under Dear Leader.
They’re just putting off the inevitable now. The banks still refuse to write off the bad debt (which is going to have to happen at some point, eventually cash flow will call their bluff). We’re about to see the commercial real estate market bust, followed by the bond market. That’s when we start seeing government checks bouncing and the credit markets shutting down.
Hope you all have cash, guns, and plenty of non-perishables.
TheMightyMonarch on June 9, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Ah… yeah, I did remember correctly. Thanks.
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Nation AND Obama in big trouble if unemployment rises further.
FIFY
highhopes on June 9, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Also remember that the so-called “stress tests” took into account a nightmare scenario of 10.3% unemployment as their top most range. When unemployment soars past that number this year, we could have another round of bank failures and/or bailouts.
However, it’s important to remember that Obama’s bailouts and deficit spending don’t even hold a candle to the Fed’s money-printing. The real economic crisis will be spawned because of Ben Bernake.
Ahh a Lion on June 9, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I think that John is telegraphing the Obama’s administrations next move. Unemployment goes above 10% and guess what?
(1) It’s Bush’s legacy and we’ve done what was needed to fix it but…
(2) We didn’t do enough. So now we’re going to really fix the problem which means we need to spend even more money and have nationalized healthcare (not only will this magically save money it will create jobs and take care of the unemployed!!!!!), and blah blah blah (insert liberal wet-dream here).
You can’t let a crises go to waste even if you exacerbated it.
gwelf on June 9, 2009 at 11:57 AM
As far as the MSM propagandists are concerned, Obama is too big to fail. Even though, less than six months in office and he is already a complete and total failure.
Exit question: Name one accomplishment that Obama has actually achieved in this time frame. All he and the Democrats of Congress have done is spend is into staggering debt and put on their track shoes to warm up for the dash to legalizing all the criminals that snuck into the nation, figuring out ways to raise taxes, and (of course) scheming to destroy the world’s best albeit imperfect healthcare system.
highhopes on June 9, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Not cash, unless you want to wallpaper or burn it during the winter, buy some gold or silver – That is guaranteed to buy you necessities in the worst case scenario.
Ahh a Lion on June 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Unemployment may have a brief slow down in new losses But, it will be short lived. We will know a lot tomorrow and Thurs. when we see just whose is left out there willing to buy our debt. When they don’t, more money will be printed and the vicious cycle will be in full swing. We will all be screwed. Unemplyment may hit 15% by early next year.
HoustonRight on June 9, 2009 at 12:01 PM
“The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.” George Orwell
the_nile on June 9, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I’m real happy that the “O” is going to take it when the numbers continue to tank, but doesn’t Congress have a big part in this? And I’m still waiting for someone, anyone in the Reps to stand-up and call him out on this. The Reps in DC are disgrace, they play right into the dems and msm hands day in and day out. With David Brooks, Peggy Noonan and David Frum anointed as are spokespersons/leaders
blue1 on June 9, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Wait a minute! I thought UNEMPLOYMENT was FUNEMPLOYMENT!
ohiobabe on June 9, 2009 at 12:03 PM
They liked war in 2004-they even ran a “war hero” for President.
Del Dolemonte on June 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM
I hope a lot of lefty trolls join HA so we can listen to their incessant whining, and excuse making…as we “waterboard” their mind with truth…
right2bright on June 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Nationalize the auto industry, much of the financial and insurance industry, is coming close to nationalizing the health-care industry, funnel billions to political and ethnic allies, stymie the Republicans in Congress, bamboozle the media… I could go on.
He is very successful. I don’t think there is much doubt of that. Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Chavez, Castro, Kim, Ortega, Ahmadinejad–they’re all successful too.
JiangxiDad on June 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Is there an echo in here?
MB4 on June 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM
If we get back to a true barter system because of the ridiculous government printing and spending, I don’t see how gold, silver, platinum, or diamonds will be worth anything.
You can’t eat or defend yourself with metals and rocks (well not with those types of metals and rocks). The most in demand commodities will be weapons, ammunition, and food.
MobileVideoEngineer on June 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM
If Obama ever comes to a complete stop half the MSM and all the Dems in congress are going to end up halfway up his @$$.
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on June 9, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Congress has been abdicating its responsibility for decades. They are basically just a rubber stamp for the executive branch.
Ahh a Lion on June 9, 2009 at 12:06 PM
FUBAR the entire nation in less than 100 days…
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on June 9, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Sniper One….Too Funny!!! Too true
HoustonRight on June 9, 2009 at 12:09 PM
140 million jobs. 193 million citizens between the ages of 18 and 65.
Some of those 140M jobs are held by legal and illegal immigrants, Some are held by people with 2 jobs. Some are held by teenagers. Some are held by people over 65.
And you want be to believe unemployment is 14.5M?
Do you think I’m NUTS.
20% is more like it.
And that doesn’t count people with temp or part-time jobs they only have because they are desperate. Call them the shadow unemployed.
But hey, the boy-king has saved 150 thousand jobs so far. What a god-like figure he is.
notagool on June 9, 2009 at 12:09 PM
you said it better than I did.
JiangxiDad on June 9, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Silver lining: That’s a $4,500 tax deduction (losses) on Schedule A.
How do we figure our share of the tax deduction for the multi-trillion dollar gambling loss Obama has gifted us?
BobMbx on June 9, 2009 at 12:10 PM
That Throwback Pepsi that recently came out for a too-brief 8 week period was actually quite good. Made with real sugar and not with high-fructose corn syrup.
Del Dolemonte on June 9, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Talk about false idol. I hear lightning approaching.
HoustonRight on June 9, 2009 at 12:12 PM
hearseeHoustonRight on June 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Here’s the good news: ACORN is hiring.
ieplaya on June 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Personally, I think both Bush and Obama will be given credit for taking a strong, unpopular stand with TARP. That did stabilize the financial markets.
I think the stimulus bill…….big belly-flop. Obama allowed Pelosi to drive it. She drove it into a ditch.
I think the budget was his, and it’s a travesty.
He now has to work with what he asked for and received, and he’s finding it wasn’t smart. The fiscal conservatives were right. He was wrong.
However, we’re stuck. Let’s hope there’s a creative solution.
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 12:15 PM
I think gasoline will also be in high demand. However, history shows us that gold is money, and something that is good enough for 5000 years of human history is good enough for me and my family. Most likely you’ll be able to buy ammo with food, but only if the ammo dealer needs food – and you have extra food. Always remember the golden rule…
Ahh a Lion on June 9, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Ask our VP. Now that would be some great MadTV material.
ieplaya on June 9, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Obama’s economic policies have only stimulated the growth of government and national debt at the expense of the private sector. Until these policies are reversed, the economy will get worse until it bottoms out. Where the bottom is, nobody knows. And, as in California, reversing the policies will be painful.
Republicans must put forward Congressional candidates, for the Senate especially, who have strong conservative records on fiscal and national security. A fiscally conservative Senate can at least stop further destruction of our economy by the inexperienced, Leftist ideologue and narcissistic, corrupt Chicago politician that Obama has so well demonstrated that he is.
2010. Keep your eye on the prize.
Loxodonta on June 9, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Ummm let’s see
4000 Chrysler Dealerships due to close today or very soon, because of their political affialations, x approx avg 80 employees per dealership= 320,000 newly minted unemployed people, plus all the businesses they supported.
I think this will put them over the magic 10% number.
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on June 9, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Well, as recently as about an hour ago, the predictable Obama-defender Democrat Talking Heads were on national t.v. proclaiming sympathy for the Obama Devil: “he’s inherited the problems, he’s doing a great job with creating jobs and…”
The ray of hope in this is that these Talking Heads are growing, daily, less believable by more people. How they’ve reached this far is a credit to extremely one-dimensional voters.
Lourdes on June 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Fixed.
Ahh a Lion on June 9, 2009 at 12:19 PM
I’m buying a few gold and silver coins as a backup, but I heard a great point made by Ticker Guy…if your family is starving, someone is selling a chicken and all you have are one-ounce gold and silver coins (or bullion for that matter), guess what? You’re going to end up giving all that up for food.
Personally I’m leaning towards commodities you can actually barter…soap, batteries, aspirin and other OTCs, antibiotics, canned goods, etc.
I’m starting to wonder after listening to him if what he predicts is actually happening, namely a deflationary depression where cash is king, credit is scarce and assets are going to be puked up at rock-bottom prices to those with cash on hand.
His reasoning against hyperinflation is that wages will not go up with massive printing. This means prices will just drop again once people stop buying en masse.
TheMightyMonarch on June 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Well, my company is at 6900 laid off with another 700 to be laid off on the 19th of this month. My ulcer is near the boiling point since I have yet to be laid off, but still always wait and sweat another deadline like the 19th. I blame Obama and the MSM. They are the ones that criticized the top three automakers from flying their own private jets to beg for bailout money. And now I hear that Obama wants to repeal the general aviation act. That will kill even more aviation jobs.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on June 9, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Actually, the fun story was that they laid off, while protesting the union layoffs. :)
But yes, we need census takers. *haha
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I am increasing inventory at my company. So when inflation skyrockets. Party at my house hors d’ oeurves for everybody.
HoustonRight on June 9, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Drinking some right now. Good stuff. Bought 12 cases.
Ha!
Knucklehead on June 9, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Please Acorn come to my house. Please, I’m begging you.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on June 9, 2009 at 12:24 PM
I went through this in the 80′s and 90′s, as my company grew and then shrank.
I ended up writing the final package letters to myself, turned out the lights, and ended that career. So you have my sympathies.
I can tell you that the burn goes away. Hang in!
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM
P.S. if there is a company left……:(
HoustonRight on June 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM
There has already been too much creativity by people who have no idea what they are doing but insist something be done. Let market forces deal with it.
a capella on June 9, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Personally, I think both Bush and Obama will be given credit for taking a strong, unpopular stand with TARP. That did stabilize the financial markets.
What???? Do you ever look at the stock prices? And they can’t pay back the money they were forced to borrow without the permission of the WH!
Capitalism means if you fail – you fail, that has been the cornerstone of this Country, not some federal bailout
blue1 on June 9, 2009 at 12:28 PM
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM
What company? I work for Cessna here in Wichita.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on June 9, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Question?
Are they counting the mandatory layoff days folks have to take? All City of Chicago employees have to take an additional 2 weeks off without pay. Lots of companies and municipalaties are doing it.
Anyone?
Knucklehead on June 9, 2009 at 12:30 PM
What used to be CalFed. It was a Savings and Loan that got into trouble back in the 80′s and early 90′s over bad commercial loans.
It was the 4th largest financial institution at one time.
Today, it’s known as Northern Trust. By the way, Northern Trust is still doing well.
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Anyone?
Knucklehead on June 9, 2009 at 12:30 PM
I have to take 4 one week furloughs from July until September. Not in conjunction, so I can’t get unemployment.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on June 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Sugary drinks, eh? That’s not very patriotic. They’re unhealthy, and your comrades will end up subsidizing your medical treatment for obesity, diabetes, and acne, and your stay at a social re-education camp.
They’ll be watching you…..
BobMbx on June 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Weird, I heard the other day that Northern Trust is doing great.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on June 9, 2009 at 12:33 PM
My condolences, Flyover and anyone else that’s facing job losses in these difficult times.
ieplaya on June 9, 2009 at 12:34 PM
This post made me laugh. The “creativity” of the market is precisely why we’re in this black hole.
Good gravy, they turned over bundling of bad loans to a bunch of computer nerds, essentially, who dreamed up a scheme that kept the bubble going.
Nobody in the financial sector can even explain it.
That’s creativity gone amok!
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 12:34 PM
eh. Who needs a job? Obama’s gonna take care of us. I’ll just forward my bills to 1600 PA Ave.
patriette on June 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Maybe, but remember that inflation is a purely monetary phenomenon – prices rise because there are more dollars in circulation. Also, unlike the deflationary great depression, the US now runs unsustainable deficits and imports most of its goods from overseas. Our interest payments on our national debt equates to the reparations of Wiemar Germany. This also eliminates the Japan of the ’90s scenario as we are net importers with most of our debt held by foreigners. Once our creditors cut us off, the dollar crisis will begin and commodity prices will go through the roof.
Ahh a Lion on June 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Yes, that’s what I said. Or I meant to say.
The merger worked. Didn’t work for stockholders or for me, but it did work.
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM
This would all be moot if that lousy supreme court would just let the 31-year-old almost-college-graduate in charge of the auto companies have his way and steal from those evil bondholders from Indiana. I am glad the pension funds haven’t been forced to take TARP money, but now the usurper knows what he has to do next!
notanobot on June 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM
It just shows the reality. You see, unemployment will reach over 10% and it is true that Obama will get all the credit. Trust me. Maybe not from the MSM, but from everyone else.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on June 9, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Good News: no severe recession
Bad News: depression
corona on June 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM
This:
[quote]Forget the NYT – they set the tone but reach less than a half million actual people. [/quote]
Is not really true…While the paper only gets to a few hundred thousand every day, their propaganda is carried by the wire services and appears in hundreds of other papers and on blogs everywhere. Never underestimate the lefts propaganda wing.
JIMV on June 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM
It really doesn’t matter if we’re a consumer economy or a producer.
This is a world-wide recession. The producers aren’t doing any better than we are.
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 12:39 PM
I know alot of people who have to do the same thing, including my son the pilot.
I’m assuming those number are not being included in the unemployment figures which means these numbers are not accurate.
Knucklehead on June 9, 2009 at 12:40 PM
China’s GDP was up 6.1% in Q1 of 2009. Production is what led us out of the Great Depression.
Ahh a Lion on June 9, 2009 at 12:42 PM
You may be more right than wrong there. A good war usually pulls out a recession. Considering the aversion those on the left have to military action in general… well… smoke ‘em if you can afford ‘em.
ExPat on June 9, 2009 at 12:42 PM
EM:
MSM:
AnonymousDrivel on June 9, 2009 at 12:42 PM
The company is stupid not to let you take unemployment.
That’s being fed by the stimulus funds. It’s the one bright spot in the stimulus bill.
Dumb, dumb.
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Exactly! The only thing helping me is that I can take vacation and PSL(sick time)on those weeks. Helps with child support responsibilities, but I don’t have 160 hours of vacation and sick leave accrued. So, not only am I screwed, but by ex won’t get hers and the state will then take more out of my check to make up for those weeks. Love being middle class, /sarc.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on June 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM
It’s not quantitative, but here’s why I’m wary…
Even if the numbers a bad for BHO, the guy seems to have a lot of good luck (yes, good luck…). It pisses me off how things just go his way.
So I’m hoping [more] that the good luck runs out, too.
bluelightbrigade on June 9, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Actually, ‘tradition’ depends on when you count. If we used the exact same criteria as they did in 1934, the unemployment rate is well over 15%. The politicians changed the way things are calculated in order to protect their jobs decades ago and have fiddled with ti ever since. Politicians always play with numbers. In 1997 the Home Office of the British Government was outed over crime figures. They were only counting crimes where the person was caught and went through the legal process. The fewer arrests they made, the better the crime stats announced were. When folk found out that reported crimes were ignored in the statistics, BIG scandal. This is the same.
JIMV on June 9, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Only when you win and only when your homeland is protected from devastation (as was the case for the United States in WWI and WWII.)
PackerBronco on June 9, 2009 at 12:46 PM
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