Nation: Obama in big trouble if unemployment rises further
posted at 10:55 am on June 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The Obama administration predicted that the massive deficit spending Barack Obama pushed in the stimulus would save the country from runaway unemployment, which they defined as 8.8%. With unemployment racing higher than the doomsday predictions after spending $800 billion on liberal pet projects, even the Left has realized that this presidency could be in serious trouble. John Nichols at The Nation warns that crossing the double-digit mark on unemployment will pin the problem not on Obama’s predecessor, but on Obama himself:
When the federal government actually acknowledges that the country has a double-digit unemployment rate, when a figure that is above 10 percent becomes that official number — something that the trend lines suggest could happen this summer — the country reaches an emotional and political tipping point.
“Ten is a tangible, very clear reminder that this is a severe recession,” explains Ohio State University economics professor Bruce Weinberg. “Ten becomes something psychological. People will say: ‘Whoa, we’ve got a double-digit unemployment rate.’”
Politically, it is the point at which people start looking for someone to blame. Obama and his people will blame the president’s predecessor. This is appropriate, as George Bush’s economic and regulatory policies were incredibly unsound and destructive.
The problem, of course, is that the blame game gets harder when it becomes possible to link a sitting president’s actions to soaring unemployment figures.
States that have been especially hard hit by the current recession — Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, among others — and urban areas that have been devastated by it (according to the Labor Department, 93 metropolitan areas registering an unemployment rate of at least 10 percent in April) now face the prospect of significant additional job losses in the coming months as a result of the administration’s auto bailout scheme.
John and I have widely divergent ideas on economics, and John’s argument in this piece is that Obama hasn’t been radical enough in his approach to the economic crisis. He dislikes Obama’s current economic team mainly because they aren’t progressive enough. John objects to the bailout not because of the government overreach and its movement towards corporatism, but because the restructuring will result in lost jobs. Of course, the option here was bankruptcy, which would have also resulted in lost jobs — but would have cost the American taxpayers a lot less in the short and long terms.
Interestingly, we agree on the main points, but couldn’t agree less on the underlying arguments. AndI give John high marks for intellectual honesty in this passage:
In fact, the real unemployment rate, as opposed to the official rate, is well over 15 percent.
That’s because the official unemployment rate — which as of Friday stood at at 9.4 percent, following another leap in jobless claims for May — is not, as economist John Williams has noted, “figured in the way that that the average person thinks of unemployment, meaning figured the way it was estimated back during the Great Depression.”
Normally, the Left likes to trot that out during Republican administrations and leave it in the barn during Democratic presidencies.
Even if we wildly disagree on economics, we agree that Obama will own this unemployment cycle, and soon. The 10% mark is a psychological barrier that Obama simply cannot avoid. Even without it, blaming Bush has a shelf life whose expiration date is rapidly approaching. Bush didn’t spend trillions of dollars in 2009 and promise that it would create “or save” jobs. Voters will get tired of hearing how many jobs Obama thinks he’s “saved” while unemployment continues to rise.
Obama has been in charge for almost five months and got every single bit of economic policy he wanted from Congress. If the economy remains mired and debt keeps skyrocketing, people will start to ask what they got for all of their great-grandchildren’s money. Even a Party of No will look pretty good in comparison under those conditions, and perhaps especially so.










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Which it will…he’s doing everything he can to guarantee double digit numbers. And his “Bush did it argument” is already paper thin. Gingrich was right, he’s already failed.
Thunderstorm129 on June 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Now don’t you fret, Obama hasn’t clicked his heels yet!
OldEnglish on June 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Yesterday’s Rasmussen poll showed that people trust the Republicans more about the Economy. When Unemployment goes double digits, Obama will not be able to spin his way out of it, although his followers in the Government and the MSM will give it the old college try.
kingsjester on June 9, 2009 at 11:01 AM
At the rate the “official” unemployment is going at, he’ll blow past 10% when the next numbers are released on July 2.
That’s going to coincide with the July 4 “Tea Parties”, so this could get interesting.
teke184 on June 9, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Buh bye, Barry.
mustng66 on June 9, 2009 at 11:02 AM
His speech yesterday on the stimulus bill and how it saved received a scathing editorial in the Wall St. Journal, which also did not spare the WH journalists from a tongue-lashing over letting him get by with this nonsense.
Making up figures isn’t going to work.
AnninCA on June 9, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Yeah, well…I’m glad people are seeing this, but I’m not all that sure that BO won’t manage to wiggle out of it anyway. People want so badly for him to succeed, and when he doesn’t they’re going to be hugely disappointed. They will give him every benefit of the doubt long past the point of sanity.
If it weren’t so bad for the country I’d just sit back and enjoy it, but…
Bob's Kid on June 9, 2009 at 11:02 AM
It’s very clear, without Obama, unemployment would now be 20%.
Phoenician on June 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Whenever possible, we need to hammer home the actual (nominal) unemployment rate of something over 15%. This a more accurate number, and it certainly will get people’s attention.
THE ONE’s statement the other day that employment was lower than projected was a patent lie.
Ragspierre on June 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM
No way. Obama is never in trouble.
We are in trouble. Obama is employed for 4 years. We are over 10%. Instead of illegals filing for unemployment to reflect the same, they headed south for warmer weather.
seven on June 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Maybe the WH will justify 9.99999999…% unemployment by referring back to FDR – we can only hope, right?
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Look’s like a perfect time to lean on teh Dept of Labor and have that report date slip to July 6th.
The Unemployment Numbers…are Coming Home…tooooo Rooooost.
WashJeff on June 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM
It will. And he will be.
UltimateBob on June 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM
The price of electing inexperience.
Bigbullets on June 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Wow, when the apologists for Pol Pot at the Nation (especially Nichols, who is raving douchenozzle) are critical of Ogabe, you know someone hasn’t been drinking the Kool-Aid.
PimFortuynsGhost on June 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM
He’s above criticism! How dare y’all question him!
SouthernGent on June 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM
I have doubts that Obama will ever be held to the same standard as other Presidents. The media will start playing on people’s heart strings soon enough and his numbers will stay up.
petunia on June 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM
There’s no place like Russia, there’s no place like Russia
Conservican on June 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Not according to his own administration’s numbers in their graph used to push the Porkulus. Unemployment is FAR above what THE ONE projected if we did nothing.
Ragspierre on June 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Obama’s energy plan will cause another million unemployed
obama’s health plan is good for 2 million layoffs.
Obama’s interference with automotive and banking is also good for another 1 million fired.
seven on June 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM
ok.it must be time for the whitehouse to invent another “leader of the republican party” strawman….rush resigned as the titular head…..so who will carville and begala pick next?
marktarheel on June 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM
But Tim Geithner has a job – something that would be impossible under another President.
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Come on Barry, put your thinking cap on.
Appoint an Unemployment Czar, complete with magic wand, sheeple potion and Barney Frank dust.
fogw on June 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM
To anyone that takes this seriously, is looking at it with open eyes, and anger, every time Obama, or someone from his party, or administration tries to lay this at Bush’s feet. Yes, Bush got the ball rolling, and I am angered by that….but again, he didn’t spend like a demon, and make promises of saved, or new jobs, that aren’t there.
This is ALL Obama, and we knew from the start, he was inept, and illprepaired for the presidency. The current status of the country tell us this.
What truly concerns me is, Obama doesn’t seem to really care about the rising numbers of unemployed, and doesn’t seem overly concerned about re-election. That’s telling. Perhaps he knows something we don’t, and hasn’t shared it with Biden yet.
I do believe, he’s literally trying to break the back bone of the American economy, and having a grand time doing it.
capejasmine on June 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM
His pathetic economic policy, the Apology Tours, and the rampant corruption in his Cabinent and Congress has already worn thin to most of us. All of it predictable. More Tea Parties are coming up with more to point out to the clueless that voted for him. It’s highly unusual for the natives to get so restless so soon. He has to know that he is screwing up, big time. He has to know that he has already failed. He’s starting to double down on all of the bad policy that has failed. This is the definition of insanity and it is very dangerous for all of us. The fight is on!
BetseyRoss on June 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Actually it will be hello to a major war.
econavenger on June 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM
didn’t summers himself tell us this would happen months ago?
ernesto on June 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM
The irony, the delicious irony of it all – is that it is the on the edge worker – most likely an Obama voter that will get the axe first. No messiah is going to help you if you are not productive. It is that left leaning “I always vote democratic” worker that is probably suffering the most. Sitting at home waiting for the “stimulus” to save or create a new job. Well it ain’t goin happen suckas….
If you want to “save” yourself then vote for a robust capitalistic system that denounces “stimulus” “bail-outs” “national health care” “cap & trade” and socialism… and then maybe, just maybe if Obama can be stopped you might have a chance. Keep voting for socialism and you will only get what they want you to get.
izoneguy on June 9, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Y’know, when Obama is booted out of office after only one term, somehow it will be blamed on Boooosh.
kingsjester on June 9, 2009 at 11:12 AM
How true!
From this Brownstein article:
WashJeff on June 9, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Don’t worry about the economy. Obama is ginning up support for WWIII on his massive foreign “apology tour”. Hey, war worked for his idol, FDR.
mrsmwp on June 9, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Oh very true!
Hey did anyone catch the couch from Notre Dame last night on Hannity say that he had created 150,000 jobs all by himself? He said he might as well make that claim–nobody could prove he hadn’t!
In that vein… I created about 200,000 jobs last week alone! All by myself–I don’t need no stinking stimulus money to make that claim.
petunia on June 9, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Something tells me when his four years are up I’ll be able to rub them in the face of every lefty I know that has ever said anything bad about Bush 43.
:D
Ryan Gandy on June 9, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Better than FDR!
Sexier than Kennedy!
The unemployment rate? Move along…nothing to see here.
DrW on June 9, 2009 at 11:13 AM
All I remember was him taking a cat nap.
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:13 AM
couch=coach, Teehee
petunia on June 9, 2009 at 11:13 AM
The leftys don’t like war so I guess they will lose.
izoneguy on June 9, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Except in WWIII the US will play the role of Belgium…
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM
You know what this post needs?
A Geoff Graph.
(As seen on TV.)
Pupster on June 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM
They used to love it. Maybe they’ll revert back.
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM
JiangxiDad on June 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM
seriously though, the apolitical masters of the universe have been saying for months that unemployment would continue to rise. sure, obama and specifically orzag have given pie in the sky “estimates” but summers, geithner, bernanke, et al. have been fairly consistent in reminding everyone that this would surely get worse (job wise), stimulus or not.
ernesto on June 9, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Wait didn’t he just promise 600,000 new jobs? Shouldn’t that lower the unemployment rate according to him? I think unemployment is already into double digits, it’s all just fuzzy math that is hard to comprehend.
Brat4life on June 9, 2009 at 11:17 AM
But, I bet Michelle, Sasha and Meleah (sp???) oh yea, and the mother of the Beast, are having quite a spending spree in Europe !!!
stenwin77 on June 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Barry is like your mom’s 2nd husband who spent all of her retirement account, ran up all the credit cards, took out a second mortgage on her house and spent all the money; then left her destitute and alone. It’ll take B-Ho about 4 years to spend all of our money and then he’ll leave too.
Mojave Mark on June 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM
It’s deja vu all over again. Crapola.
For those who didn’t get to experience the late 1970s – a taste: rampant unemployment – 18% mortgage rates – gas lines – really ugly clothes.
tru2tx on June 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM
That’s depressing! Who will play the part of the Nazis?
mrsmwp on June 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Using Obama logic =
“I saved or created 90% employment.”
Thunderstorm129 on June 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM
It’s almost enough to get me to deliberately lose my job so I can contribute directly to this turd’s downfall.
D2Boston on June 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM
It just means more people will have more fun…”funemployment”.
ezye on June 9, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Yep, unemployment will be Barry’s undoing, it’s the needle that will pop the Obama Popularity Bubble and bring it into line with the actual popularity of his policies.
And this is inevitable, his very own policies, restrictions on the free market, attacks on contract law, control of the financials, have all ADDED to instability in the marketplace.
Business hates instability, and with Barry behaving like he won election to be Fuhrer instead of President, this instability is only growing. Business will not expand (which means hiring people, thus reducing unemployment) in an unstable legal and regulatory environment.
What will be interesting is how Dear Leader Hussein and his fellow autocrats react to this continued rise, his popularity collapse, and it being proven that his National Socialist economic policy has failed, in a situation where he and his party have COMPLETE control of power and have to bear full responsibility.
People won’t accept “it’s Bush’s fault’ forever, even if they buy the premise that Bush caused the recession. Barry was supposed to bring “hopeandchange” which means they expect him to FIX the economy, not make it worse. The more this drags on and gets worse, the fewer who will accept that it’s NOT Barry’s fault.
wildcat84 on June 9, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I’d like to see a comparison to what Obama is doing now and his spending on the Chicago school district he did with Bill Ayers. He spent tons of money… and no results. I least that is what I remember from the campaign. It is no surprise that this is what he would do again.
petunia on June 9, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Sounds like an indictment that the Obama administration put out a report that threy new was not true (i.e., they lied) just to pass the $787 Billion stimulus bill?
WashJeff on June 9, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Imagine in October a 2 trillion dollar deficit and 10% unemployment.
Even bunny shaker will be crying.
lorien1973 on June 9, 2009 at 11:21 AM
That’s pretty awesome. Wonder if people would make the connection.
lorien1973 on June 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM
That are largely back in style… hmmm along with that other stuff.
petunia on June 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Ha! Let’s give them a little of taste of Cloward-Pliven strategy. What if several million people all converged on the unemployment offices in one week? I wish I could participate but I’ve been un(self)employed for 10 years!
mrsmwp on June 9, 2009 at 11:23 AM
People will be deliberately becoming unemployed soon as the Next Phase of the Great Plan happens: Massive tax increases on the “rich” (ie: anyone who has a job) and it become more profitable to be parasite than producer.
wildcat84 on June 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM
So that’s what it means to have a step father? Dang.
petunia on June 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Obama is not of the temperament that will allow him to accept any of the blame for the eroding employment situation and lame economy.
Expect a serious temper tantrum and the firing of a bunch of advisors and Czars who conspired to mislead him. It all will be spiced with a lot of spin and lies.
Yoop on June 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM
I’ve heard from many economists that the actually figure for unemployment is higher than the 9.4% that is being currently reported, but that the numbers are being assessed in such a way to make it look like less than it is. But heck, I don’t need a number to tell me how bad it is — just look around, talk to your friends & neighbors,go to the mall for cripessake.
Dark Star on June 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM
This is the Create or Save administration. Obama will create statistics to save his job.
How’s that working for you, Trillionator?
EMD on June 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM
George W Bush also inherited a recession and took the step of ramming home a reduction in all taxes.
Guess what happened?
If a horse is burdened under a heavy load the solution is not to add to that load unless one wants to achieve a certain outcome not related to the horses health.
jjshaka on June 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM
I thought we were talkin bout unemployment here ;)
ernesto on June 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Unemployment, rising interest rates, rising gasoling prices, rising heating oil prices, failing Sotomayor nom, GM/Chrysler, TARP, falling dollar, stock market stuck, N. Korea, Germany, Israel, Arabs, Gitmo, Pakistan, China, Chavez, elections in Europe, Pelosi meltdown, bailouts, stimulus, health care, cap n trade, Limbaugh, …
it’s all starting to slowly crash in on him. He has no experience, is thin-skinned, prickly, and not hard-working, has an incompetent VP and cabinet, and is supported by a carefully constructed myth, but nothing tangible.
Watch him unravel, dissemble, and become increasingly isolated and paranoid. Will the false messiah only destroy himself, or attempt to take us all with him?
Burn, baby burn.
JiangxiDad on June 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM
I think the unemployment rate will hit closer to 10.5% by July. Remember the plant closurers or idling will count in those numbers as well as parts suppliers, dealers, etc. This alone should be enough to shoot the number over the psychological barrier. I live close to the Spring Hill plant and you should hear the anguished cries. Too bad they all can’t move back to Michigan and commiserate with their “brothers and sisters” in the union.
hip shot on June 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM
In politics, there is perception and there is reality. And reality doesn’t matter.
Forget the NYT – they set the tone but reach less than a half million actual people. What matters to the liberal zeitgeist is what’s on the alphabet network evening news. And right now, nothing is happening. The war in Iraq has disappeared, and there is practically no economic news.
Assuming we can get some “racist” (using the liberal ass-backward definition of that word) Republican candidates running, they need to focus one one simple message: Unemployment has doubled, and the American economy has shrunk by 25% since Obama and the Democrats took control.
If (and that is a very big “if”) the RNC can pull its head out and manage to get that one-sentence message accross, millions of deadhead “moderate” voters are going to stick their heads up at the same time and scream “WHAT?”
logis on June 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Yeah, but my understanding is that they wanted to keep it bellow double digit unemployment. Further, these are the guys that advocate printing more and more money, so I don’t really know how much they have to offer… It would also appear that we are getting mixed messages from their counterparts in the WH.
I realize that there are always going to be propagandists and then semi-propagandists, though.
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Who cares about unemployment, didn’t you guys see BHO’s picture perfect (and Monalisa expensive) date night in New York? It doesn’t matter if I’ve lost my job, my first, second, fourth, fifth, and 10th amendment rights, my ability to choose a healthcare provider, or my childrens future, because I can have hopenchange by watching Obama joke about it at the White House Correspondants Dinner and hold up traffic with Michelle in Manhattan.
Swerve22 on June 9, 2009 at 11:27 AM
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Asher on June 9, 2009 at 11:27 AM
I heard someone from the administration admit their projections had been a bit optimistic… I’m sure that was Bush’s fault however.
petunia on June 9, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Going to the Nation for economic analysis is like going to Michael Moore for a diet program.
WisCon on June 9, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Relax… I heard it on the Today Show… the recession is OVER.
mankai on June 9, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Is it too skeptical to say that these unemployment numbers are just going to be an excuse for Obama to take further control of the economy?
ChristianRock on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Unemployment, rising interest rates, rising gasoline prices, rising heating oil prices, failing Sotomayor nom, GM/Chrysler, TARP, falling dollar, stock market stuck, N. Korea, Germany, Israel, Arabs, Gitmo, Pakistan, China, Chavez, elections in Europe, Pelosi meltdown, bailouts, stimulus, health care, cap n trade, Limbaugh, …
it’s all starting to slowly crash in on him. He has no experience, is thin-skinned, prickly, and not hard-working, has an incompetent VP and cabinet, an unhelpful wife, and is supported by a carefully constructed myth, but nothing tangible.
Watch him unravel, dissemble, and become increasingly isolated and paranoid. Will the false messiah only destroy himself, or attempt to take us all with him?
Burn, baby burn.
JiangxiDad on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
You bring up a good point, mrsmwp, what happens when their perfectly executed CP strategy creates a new one that they didn’t count on?
ORconservative on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
forget “created or saved”, how about “spent or wasted” when describing the stimulus…
fortjefferson on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Don’t worry , this administration will find some spin to make the messiah look good, guaranteed, and the msm will go along and the sheeple will continue to follow blindly.
kthomas8268 on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
And then appoing a Blue Ribbon Panel to combate unemployment. Blue Ribbon, you know, because those are the best kind.
PackerBronco on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I predict two numbers, with and without the car companies.
petunia on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
How many more Americans need to lose their jobs before unemployment hits 10%? Does anyone know the numbers?
ILB on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Would that be tarred and feathered and riding on a rail on his way out?
tru2tx on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
His inherent leftist arrogance and unjustified snobbish pride plus his tendency towards petulant reactions when he is (almost never) challenged on anything might lead to the “Mother of all breakdowns”… Could be interesting. If he really goes nuclear, it could be so bad that he could be the first President impeached and removed from office by his own party.
Sad to say that Biden seems more coherent and less risky than Barry.
wildcat84 on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Best we can hope for at this point is some donks going knee wobbly on the health care plan based on polling data this week. The shift back towards fiscal sanity land as evidenced by Gallup and Rasmussen, plus the widening gap in trust regarding national security between parties has to be making some of them nervous about where they are going. Popping the scab off a couple of festering, corrupt pustules like Murtha and Jefferson would help it along nicely.
a capella on June 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM
What kills is the “across the board” nature of this recession. It doesn’t seem to matter if you’re a cashier at “The Buymore” or a 25 year IT professional with three degrees. If you have your job today, you feel lucky.
The administration will pay. Will Congress? Pelosi? Reed?
jmbuckley on June 9, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Oh, the world is full of volunteers.
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:30 AM
TIWYFTIWYMMWashJeff on June 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM
You had me until Biden… and next is Pelosi…
petunia on June 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM
You are underestimating the sheeple mentality of Obama voters. It was, is, and always will be Bush’s fault.
KS Rex on June 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM
About 800,000 I think.
lorien1973 on June 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM
I remember graduating from college during all that. Thanks God for Reaganomics which reversed the Carter slide.
jbh45 on June 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Yes indeedy. But aren’t you glad we only paid for a cheap pub meal this time instead of a froo-froo trendy organic dinner?
Fish and chips for the First Lady: Michelle Obama takes her daughters to traditional English pub for £7.95 dinner
Heh. Pepsi. The girls love the logo.
Brat on June 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM
And with no improvement in unemployment figures and with a massive increase in the national debt… I see a HUGE victory on the horizon for Alf Landon in 36.
mankai on June 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Sillies, in Obamaomics, a double digit unemployment rate is a good thing….you’ll see…Obamalini is our only hope.
ihasurnominashun on June 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Unless the MSM turns on Obama, the unemployment rate could be 20% and they will find a way to spin it on Bush.
Where is the embarassment about the unemployment rate going above 8%, even with the stimulus bill passed? Although the MSM is not the only game in town, they are still the biggest.
jamarkennedy on June 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM
I know it’s kind of OT but hey you can trade your old clunker in for a new Government Motor Car if this bill passes
More money to spend we don’t have
Brat4life on June 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM
The real poop hit the fan yesterday for Barry with the stay on the Chrysler sale.
Knucklehead on June 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Well, it’s gonna rise. Everybody’s projections call for more unemployment. And GM and Chrysler haven’t really hit their stride on plant closings yet.
Unemployment is a lagging indicator, so even once we ARE coming out of recession, the unemployment numbers will be slow to stop. But I forsee some REALLY bad numbers in the next few months.
hawksruleva on June 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Yeah, saw this. Very depressing.
B-b-but he walks on water.
Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Something totally ignored in compiling unemployment figures is the fact that once unemployment benefits run out after 26 weeks or so, whether a person has found a job or not is immaterial. He’s dropped from the unemployment compensation rolls, thus, as far as the government is concerned he either has (1) found a job, or (2) has disappeared off the face of the earth, neither which is likely to have occurred. Thus the unemployment figures remain lower than they actually are.
bradley11 on June 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM
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