Meltdown on Morrissey Boulevard: Unions tell Globe to pound sand

posted at 9:28 am on June 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The owners of the Boston Globe (aka The New York Times) told labor earlier this year that it needed $20 million in givebacks from the seven unions in order to keep the Globe in operation.  Six of the seven unions eventually agreed, contingent on the acquiescence of the last one, the Boston Newspaper Guild.  Last night, though, the Guild rejected the new contract by a narrow margin, prompting the Globe’s owners (aka the New York Times) to declare an impasse and make unilateral changes to the contracts.

This should be … interesting:

Union members at The Boston Globe narrowly rejected steep cuts in their pay and benefits, but now face even deeper reductions as the 137-year-old newspaper looks to slash $10 million in annual expenses to keep parent company The New York Times Co. from shutting it down.

The Boston Newspaper Guild, which represents 700 editorial, advertising and business employees, voted 277-265 Monday against the new contract negotiated after the Times Co. said it needed $20 million in annual savings from Globe unions — half from the Guild.

The Times Co. demanded the concessions amid an increasingly dire financial situation at the Globe. The newspaper has struggled as readers migrated to the Internet, advertising revenue declined drastically and circulation fell. The Globe had $50 million in operating losses in 2008 and had been projected to lose $85 million this year. …

The Times Co. had said that if the Guild rejected the proposal, it would try to impose a 23 percent wage cut. It also has threatened to close the newspaper, which would require giving 60 days notice to employees and the state.

Like most labor disputes, this looks like a failure of both management and labor.  The coming collapse of the Globe should be obvious to all by now, given the sea of red ink it generates and the unwillingness of its owners to absorb more of the same.  Both management and labor are attempting to rescue a dying economic model for the paper rather than create a new model that can work for both labor and owners — but probably with fewer employees and a different scope of coverage.

The irony here is that the Boston Globe’s owners (aka the New York Times) usually takes a very pro-union stance, editorially speaking.  Now, however, the company has decided to take up union-busting.  Who knew that they wanted to emulate Ronald Reagan in his handling of PATCO?

Now that should annoy them.

Hopefully, though, cooler heads will prevail and both sides will step back from the brink.  Boston is a city that can and should have at least two major dailies, even if in a different format than the dead-tree drop.  Instead of fighting over the rapidly-disappearing crumbs from an obsolete business model, all of this effort should have gone into a creative collaboration to find a new engine for journalism.  Maybe it still will — but I think that will have to come another day.

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So, a union has voted ITSELF out of a job, during the worst recession in a generation has it?

Tell me, why are unions good for the workers and for business again?

wildcat84 on June 9, 2009 at 9:31 AM

The irony here is that the Boston Globe’s owners (aka the New York Times) usually takes a very pro-union stance

Another self petard hoist.

CDeb on June 9, 2009 at 9:32 AM

We’re dead, all right. We’re just not broke.

And do you know the surest way to go broke?

Keep getting an increasing share of a shrinking market. Down the tubes. Slow but sure.

You know, at one time there must have been dozens of companies making buggy whips. And I’ll bet the last company around was the one that made the best goddamn buggy whip you ever saw.

Now, how would you have liked to have been a stockholder in that company?

CDeb on June 9, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Boston is a city that can and should have at least two major dailies,

Why?

Perhaps this is generational, but I know that my local dailies are simply mass reprints of AP articles. Nothing I can’t find online. Nothing original. Not worth 50 cents.

Aquateen Hungerforce on June 9, 2009 at 9:33 AM

It doesn’t matter the Globe is toast soon. Longer-term so is the Times as something other than a brand.

dedalus on June 9, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Like Obama, the libs at the NYT will flip-flop when it’s expedient to do so.

Thunderstorm129 on June 9, 2009 at 9:33 AM

The NYT have happily given the unions, power, influence and its media support. Too much control and influence creates a “spoiled child” and the NYT played the over-indulgent parent.

pjean on June 9, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Boston is a city that can and should have at least two major dailies, even if in a different format than the dead-tree drop.

…..

They don’t and won’t have that, Ed.

They have BIASED garbage rags that aren’t interested in journalism.

Why on earth are you wanting their survival?

artist on June 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM

In other words, the Boston Globe is feeling The Pinch.

BigD on June 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM

The irony here is that the Boston Globe’s owners (aka the New York Times) usually takes a very pro-union stance, editorially speaking. Now, however, the company has decided to take up union-busting.

Breaking: Boston Globe discovers it’s a business.

Daggett on June 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM

It’s sort of ironic that Obama is helping to kill the Globe. The biggest advertisers are local car dealerships. The very ones Obama is ordering closed.

The Globe is reaping what is sowed. It deserves to be closed. It earned it.

TheBigOldDog on June 9, 2009 at 9:35 AM

The irony here is that the Boston Globe’s owners (aka the New York Times) usually takes a very pro-union stance, editorially speaking.

…..

It goes far beyond editorializing, unless that includes their front page coverage.

Which it undoubtedly does.

artist on June 9, 2009 at 9:35 AM

In other words, the Boston Globe is feeling The Pinch.

BigD on June 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Doh!

TheBigOldDog on June 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM

I used to carry the Globe when I was a kid. I was always envious of my buddies who carried for the Herald.
Let the Globe fail. It’s a left wing rag anyway.

Geronimo on June 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Hopefully, though, cooler heads will prevail and both sides will step back from the brink.

…..

Absolutely not.

Hopefully the Globe will be SHUT DOWN and the NYT will follow shortly.

artist on June 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM

The owners of the Boston Globe (aka The New York Times) told labor earlier this year that it needed $20 million in givebacks from the seven unions in order to keep the Globe in operation.

I am surprised that Obama hasn’t stepped in to save and create more jobs here. After all, it is important that the Government support a Free and Impartial Press .

Uniblogger on June 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM

The Boston Herald

fluffy on June 9, 2009 at 9:38 AM

A Lib organization practicing a little Hypocrisy when it comes to their Money? Say it ain’t so!

Dopavash on June 9, 2009 at 9:38 AM

One of the driving factors in the “no” votes is a provision that would strip many of their LIFETIME JOB GUARANTEES. Yes, I said lifetime. That’s the real split in the newsroom.

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Boston is a city that can and should have at least two major dailies…

Not if one of them is Pravda.

mankai on June 9, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Can I reserve my copy of their last issue now?

snickelfritz on June 9, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Boston is a city that can and should have at least two major dailies, even if in a different format than the dead-tree drop

I disagree. I have always considered Boston as one of the most intelligent cities due to their university’s, it’s clear the people have spoken, regardless of ideology…

Odie1941 on June 9, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Boston is a city that can and should have at least two major dailies, even if in a different format than the dead-tree drop.

Toilet paper is readily available in stores. News consumers can get enough of what they are shoveling from MSNBC and CNN.

CMonster on June 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Absolutely not.

Hopefully the Globe will be SHUT DOWN and the NYT will follow shortly.

artist on June 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM

I am so looking forward to driving over there and pissing on their grave. I’ve waited 35+ years for them to finally get their just dues and now the time is near and I grow impatient.

The Boston Globe did more to destroy Boston and Massachusetts in general than any other single entity.

TheBigOldDog on June 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Maybe they can go Newsweek.

TexasDan on June 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Geronimo on June 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM

My first job was carrying for the Herald. In 1975, they decided to set up their own distribution, rather than piggyback with the Globe. Competition opened an opportunity!

fluffy on June 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM

I foresee a bailout in the near future.

bluelightbrigade on June 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM

all of this effort should have gone into a creative collaboration to find a new engine for journalism

LOL. Maybe if they had tried real journalism, they wouldn’t be in this delicious pickle.

JiangxiDad on June 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Its blatant left-wing leanings aside, The Boston Globe is a very poorly written newspaper. They do have a good sports staff and Wesley Morris in the arts section is a terrific writer; however, the news division writes for a junior high audience (if that), and the columnists can’t get out of their own way to present anything resembling a cogent thought.

Let it burn.

D2Boston on June 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM

It’s sort of ironic that Obama is helping to kill the Globe. The biggest advertisers are local car dealerships. The very ones Obama is ordering closed.

The Globe is reaping what is sowed. It deserves to be closed. It earned it.

TheBigOldDog on June 9, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Actually, Bawney Fwank is taking an active hand on that one… He’s leaning hard on GM to leave the dealerships in New England alone from what I’ve read.

teke184 on June 9, 2009 at 9:44 AM

fluffy on June 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM

The Herald has always been a more interesting read, at least for me. It has a little more of a magazine kind of feel. I just always liked it more, plus it’s waaay more objective than the Globe.
Nothing like putting together the Sunday papers in the winter huh?

Geronimo on June 9, 2009 at 9:45 AM

What has gone on at The Globe for the past few months would make a good movie. They should call it All the Union”s Men. Unfortunately, the paper in it’s
current state isn’t worth saving. They sold their soul to the devil in ’93. The
“lifetime employment” that was negotiated in the deal was, and is laughable.
Too bad that no one told the union.

ontherocks on June 9, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Actually, Bawney Fwank is taking an active hand on that one… He’s leaning hard on GM to leave the dealerships in New England alone from what I’ve read.

I know he was fighting to keep a parts plant open. I think he may have prevailed…

More NIMBY politics at play.

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 9:46 AM

No sympathy. Let them all become Daily Kos diarists like they already are.

Bill C on June 9, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Maybe they can go Newsweek Newsweak.
TexasDan

There, fixed it.

Old Country Boy on June 9, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Does anyone remember the days when companies that actually operated with a 50 million dollar loss actually had to close? Of course with the new Obama math out there, if a loss of 85 million is projected, and they actually lose 60 million, than that actually is a profit of 25 million!
Problem solved!
The prospects of newspapers turning a profit in their current form are pretty slim – I wonder if Obama will save the papers to save jobs….. that way he can brag once again about that now famous category “newly created OR saved jobs”.

JeffinOrlando on June 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Socialists do practice cannibalism!

Newsenfreude, baby!

drjohn on June 9, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Nothing unusual in liberal elitists not practicing what they preach -to wit:

1 Liberal elitists on Martha’s Vinyard want wind-generated electricity but not “those ugly looking things” in my back yard, thank you.

2 Liberal elitists want high taxes but everybody other than them should pay them.

3 Liberal elitists want people to sacrifice by cutting down on luxuries such as food, clothing, housing, utilities use and transportation–except for Al Gore, BHO and a million like them.

4 Obviously if an overpriced, featherbedding union destroys a company’s profitability, so be it-UNLESS the company is a liberal icon such as the ‘NY Times’.

MaiDee on June 9, 2009 at 9:50 AM

It’s amazing that the NYT can’t bother to read about it’s competitors problems with the unions in other states (Minneapolis Star Tribune), to see what a mess they can get into when they upset the only people still far enough to the left to believe what they print.

MNScott on June 9, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Aquateen – They need two newspapers because one can reprint AP articles and the other can do Reuters. How are Bostonions going to get all the news if they don’t have both of those?

JadeNYU on June 9, 2009 at 9:50 AM

I live in Ma, can’t wait to tap dance on the grave of the Boston Globe.

Ricki on June 9, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Slash and burn, that’s all that unions understand.

OldEnglish on June 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM

GM and Chrysler couldn’t follow this same path why exactly?

This is a small sign of what’s to come; unions refusing to budge even if it means destroying their employers and themselves along with it. Unions are thug organizations, dependent on the image of never giving an inch to anyone, if they concede, the image will shatter.

Bishop on June 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Toilet paper is readily available in stores. News consumers can get enough of what they are shoveling from MSNBC and CNN.

CMonster on June 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Toilet paper doesn’t work as well in bird cages though. Think of the birds! The Golbe covered in bird S__t seems appropriate to me!

Tanker on June 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Not worth 50 cents.

Aquateen Hungerforce on June 9, 2009 at 9:33 AM

The last time the Boston Globe was 50 cents was years ago. Last time I checked it was a buck. Even more, if you live in other parts of New England.

Del Dolemonte on June 9, 2009 at 9:55 AM

soooooo, union members, how does it feel to “have some skin in the game” as your messiah requested??

Ris4victory on June 9, 2009 at 9:55 AM

But I have all this fish to wrap!

snickelfritz on June 9, 2009 at 9:56 AM

BAILOUT!!

mankai on June 9, 2009 at 9:58 AM

I guess they both want to pound sand.

kirkill on June 9, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Its blatant left-wing leanings aside, The Boston Globe is a very poorly written newspaper. They do have a good sports staff and Wesley Morris in the arts section is a terrific writer; however, the news division writes for a junior high audience (if that), and the columnists can’t get out of their own way to present anything resembling a cogent thought.

Let it burn.

D2Boston on June 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM

They used to have some terrific music critics, like Steve Morse (is he still there?) but he was from “the greatest generation” of rock music critics. The recent Globe music critics have been nowhere near as good as Steve.

Del Dolemonte on June 9, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Heh… they’re holding out till O’Barry bails them out.

Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Sounds like another great opportunity for the Government to own another company with tax payer money.

d.l.johnson on June 9, 2009 at 10:00 AM

The only thing that bugs me about this is the theory that these left wing rags are in trouble becaause of the internet. They are in trouble because the employees and management quit being reporters a long time ago.
It is not worth 50 cents when you already know what it is going to say.
The thing I love about all of this is eventually the union, the biggest Obama apologizer, is going to get screwed. The unions in most of these messes are going to get screwed and I can not wait.

ORconservative on June 9, 2009 at 10:00 AM

I wonder if Barry is going to bail them out. A state run media can come in handy.

dave c on June 9, 2009 at 10:03 AM

The only thing that bugs me about this is the theory that these left wing rags are in trouble becaause of the internet. They are in trouble because the employees and management quit being reporters a long time ago.

ORconservative on June 9, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Exactly. They could have (and some do) embrace the internet, but their reporting is replaceable.

Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Hey, Folks!

Off-topic, but BIDEN STEPS IN IT YET AGAIN!

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj–hudsontunnel-bide0609jun09,0,3552891.story

jay12 on June 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Good. The fewer unions the better. President Bush missed the opportunity of a lifetime to bust the UAW and instead choked.

jonezee on June 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM

The local paper here in Georgia is nothing but AP reprints and poor writing/reporting, full of errors, the result of hiring just-out-of-school kids and giving them “staff writer” business cards and a laptop and hoping for the best. Since “best” is, at best, relative, they usually get what they pay so little for. I never buy the paper, only scan it for anything of interest on it’s poorly-designed web site.
Watching as unions vote themselves out of a job in Boston is news in itself, and shines a spotlight on the union mentality, which, like newspapers themselves, has seen better (and more relevant) days. Those days are gone.

bradley11 on June 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM

There has been several oppurtunities in the last 40 years to break the UAW, Bush is just the last in the line of fails in that area. The funny part is that this Barry induced chaos is likely to the their demise and they have been kissing his ass and vice versa all along.
I love when socialists eat their own.

ORconservative on June 9, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Labor unions are designed to strangle a company until it closes down.

TheSitRep on June 9, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Actually, Bawney Fwank is taking an active hand on that one… He’s leaning hard on GM to leave the dealerships in New England alone from what I’ve read.
I know he was fighting to keep a parts plant open. I think he may have prevailed…

More NIMBY politics at play.

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 9:46 AM

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/06/04/barney-frank-wins-delay-of-gm-plant-closing-after-ceo-meeting/

Note Franks “non business” rationale – it lets workers find a new job for the next year… friggin payola and corruption at the highest level…

Odie1941 on June 9, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Can I get some of this sand for my vegetable garden?

whitetop on June 9, 2009 at 10:11 AM

A liberal rag that prints crap and the union that gets overpaid to print the crap, both about to go belly-up.

There is a God.

fogw on June 9, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Boston is a city that can and should have at least two major dailies

Why is that…look at the major cities in California:
Sacarmento: Sacramento Bee
San Fran: Chronicle
L.A.: Times
San Diego: Union
Each of these majors only have one paper…look how well it has served California…

right2bright on June 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM

But I have all this fish to wrap!

snickelfritz on June 9, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Here in MD, many of us use newspaper to cover the table while eating steamed crabs. I won’t even buy The Baltimore Sun for THAT! Thankfully, The Washington Times is readily available.

DOOF on June 9, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Hey, Folks!

Off-topic, but BIDEN STEPS IN IT YET AGAIN!

jay12 on June 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM

These diversions are always welcome!

right2bright on June 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Kinda like Obama v. Obama.

bloggless on June 9, 2009 at 10:17 AM

The unions must be hoping for a bailout from their dear leader. But first Barack must appoint a Newspaper Czar, whose most important qualifications will be zero experience working in the private sector, unions, or newspapers, but a track record of success as a Democrat fundraiser, preferably with some connection to the Clintons.

Buy Danish on June 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

If the Boston Globe goes under it will be due to the greed of the profit takers who years ago took the money out of the paper and used it to bolster up that liberal rag in NY.

If the NY Times closes the Globe it is signaling it is giving up on the news business.

The unions who voted this down are just as greedy as the fat cat’s in New York. They get a pass from the liberals because they are a voting block. Soon the unions will be totally gone as business breaks them one by one. I am not so sure that will be a good thing for the rest of us. Time will tell.

As life goes on without a print press our american freedom can and probably will become more controlled by the government. It is just a fact of life. I fear it is too late to change the outcome now. Too many are blinded by ideology to see the harm.

I wish the Globe well. It was once an important conduit that help protect our freedom. Now it is but a shell of its former self. I will miss it.

kanda on June 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

JadeNYU on June 9, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Of course. How unbalanced of me to suppose that AP could deliver the news without their ideological rival, Reuters, being given a fair shake. They really capture all sides of an issue between them.

Del Dolemonte on June 9, 2009 at 9:55 AM

I was speaking of my local dailies, but I haven’t bought one of them in years, so my 50 cent price may be a low ball. Duly noted.

Aquateen Hungerforce on June 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM

I imagine the negotiations went something like this:

Union: “We won’t take a 20% pay cut!” *stamps feet and wails* “We won’t! We won’t! We won’t!”

Paper: “Well, how about a 100% pay cut?”

Union: “Okay.” *heads to corner to suck its thumb*

Vic on June 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Odie1941:

Note Franks “non business” rationale – it lets workers find a new job for the next year… friggin payola and corruption at the highest level…

Lifelong MA resident here and Frank is another despicable character whom I feel obligated to apologize for.

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM

For the Lib hacks like Pelosi, Schumer, and Reid, who pine for one-party rule, they should take a look at what a one- or no-newspaper town looks like. The Lib press is dying, to be replaced by a more conservative press. This is what comes of one-party ambitions.

Think the Libs will learn anything from this? Nah.

EMD on June 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM

If the NY Times closes the Globe it is signaling it is giving up on the news business.
kanda on June 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Oh, believe me, they’ve given up a long time ago.

Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Let’s see. I predict that the obama administration wrangles some TARP money to them, fires the publishers then makes the paper file for bankruptcy. In the end the unions and the government own the paper and the taxpayers give it billions in loans……never to be paid back.

jukin on June 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

GM and Chrysler couldn’t follow this same path why exactly?

This is a small sign of what’s to come; unions refusing to budge even if it means destroying their employers and themselves along with it. Unions are thug organizations, dependent on the image of never giving an inch to anyone, if they concede, the image will shatter.

Bishop on June 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM

That’s been the experience my city’s had with unions.

At least two grocery store chains pulled out of town because of the unions, as the stupid bastards would strike but didn’t learn the lesson that you’re supposed to get them to cave to your demands, not shut them down completely.

The sad/funny part of the situation is that the two strikes in question took place about 15 years apart from each other and they had the same reaction each time, which is that “We won!” by driving out that evil employer instead of ending up with a job at the end of the day.

teke184 on June 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Let’s see. I predict that the obama administration wrangles some TARP money to them, fires the publishers then makes the paper file for bankruptcy. In the end the unions and the government own the paper and the taxpayers give it billions in loans……never to be paid back.

jukin on June 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Eh… Maybe. But if this were the case, he’d probably have done this with CA and NY… Obama knows not to step on the toes of his most loyal kool-aid drinkers…

Upstater85 on June 9, 2009 at 10:29 AM

I have always considered Boston as one of the most intelligent cities due to their university’s

Odie1941 on June 9, 2009 at 9:39 AM

I take it you did not attend any of them.

hicsuget on June 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Do what we say, not what we do….

The Hollywood industry has taken several projects off American soil so that they can make a movie with less interference by PETA, Code Pink, Green Peace organizations, Unions Expenses…..

These people want us to follow the Liberal path to no where, while they are busy doing something completely different.

I say let the Globe go bankrupt. Let the people get their news from alternate sources just like the rest of us.

Keemo on June 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

If the Globe fails, followed shortly the NYT, I predict that after a month or two of mourning most of the public will move on and neither of them will be greatly missed.

News will be gained other ways and the elitist attitude of the former editors and writers will serve them well in the unemployment line. They will get to experience the realities of the economy, and the promises of the present administration, up close and personal. They will get to interface with the real numbers, not those they have been either ignoring, or spinning into positives.

It will be most interesting to watch how all that works for them. One wonders what type of jobs their resumes will qualify them for in the present market.

Yoop on June 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Ahhh . . . the smell of failing mainstream media in the morning.

rplat on June 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Lifelong MA resident here and Frank is another despicable character whom I feel obligated to apologize for.

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I dont expect you to apologize for him. As a native NYker – I have always loved Boston and in many cases enjoy a civil debate while dining at Kitty O’Sheas.

I take it you did not attend any of them.

hicsuget on June 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Nope. Refer to the Good Will Hunting bar scene…

Odie1941 on June 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Too big to fail!!!

KS Rex on June 9, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Instead of fighting over the rapidly-disappearing crumbs from an obsolete business model, all of this effort should have gone into a creative collaboration to find a new engine for journalism.

It’s sort of sad to see a dinosaur sunk chin deep in the muck.

That being said, I’m getting a Kindel for my birthday on the 11th. By this time next year, I plan on cancelling my AZ Republic subscription.

DrW on June 9, 2009 at 10:38 AM

If you look in the dictionary for a definition of irony, you’ll find this story as an example. It drips irony.

Here in Sacramento we used to have two papers, too. One tilted right, one left. We subscribed to both, because my parents wanted to know both sides of an issue, even though every now and then my Dad would call the Bee to cancel it because of some stupid editorial it had printed (he always resubscribed).

The paper that slanted left eventually put out a lot of effort to put the paper that slanted right out of business–and it succeeded, so now we’ve only the Sacramento Bee. If it went out of business I wouldn’t cry a tear. Just desserts, and all that.

Bob's Kid on June 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Boston is a city that can and should have at least two major dailies, even if in a different format than the dead-tree drop.

…..

They don’t even have one.
Looks like Boston is an opportunity for a good newspaper.

seven on June 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Oldie 1941:

I dont expect you to apologize for him. As a native NYker – I have always loved Boston and in many cases enjoy a civil debate while dining at Kitty O’Sheas.

I believe that used to be the Purple Shamrock back in my college days…good times!

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Bob’s Kid!

Fancy meeting you here.

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 10:40 AM

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Cheers to you. I always stay at the Back Bay Hotel on the wharf and found that gem about 10 years ago, though I haven’t been in 2 or 3 years.

I think the tie that binds is my Irish heritage and the fact grandpa landed at Holy Cross, off the boat.

Of course baseball talk is out of the question!

Odie1941 on June 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM

What I found surprising about this story was that 6 of the 7 unions involved actually *agreed* to the cuts, and the 7th only voted them down by like 12 votes. Maybe the unions are finally starting to read the writing on the wall.

KS Rex on June 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM

The Times Co. demanded the concessions amid an increasingly dire financial situation at the Globe. The newspaper has struggled as readers migrated to the Internet, advertising revenue declined drastically and circulation fell. The Globe had $50 million in operating losses in 2008 and had been projected to lose $85 million this year. …

Is 2008, when they started having these major losses in revenue? If so, it’s a no brainer, as to why. Maybe newspapers, and other publishing venues, should take a long hard look, at how they’ve been reporting their stories. Last year, when in the same magazing, US plastered the front cover with a glowing , wholesome family pic of the Obama’s, and on the back, an attack on Palin, and her family. Now correct me, but even conservatives, and republicans purchased this magazine. I heard they lost a lot of readers, because of that cover, and well they should.

It’s a disgrace what’s happened to the media in this country. I don’t care what their personal politics are, but when they over flow into their reporting, and news telling, and story ideas….they go to far, and disenfranchise millions of readers, or potential readers.

capejasmine on June 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Oldie:

I think the tie that binds is my Irish heritage and the fact grandpa landed at Holy Cross, off the boat.

I got the thin envelope from Holy Cross. My Irish heritage didn’t help, I guess. Boooooo!

College hoops or pro?

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Hey, Folks!Off-topic, but BIDEN STEPS IN IT YET AGAIN!
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj–hudsontunnel-bide0609jun09,0,3552891.story

jay12 on June 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Background: There are two tunnels, the THE tunnel which is to handle commuter rail, and is expected to prevent auto traffic from increasing rapidly a few years down the road (the existing commuter/Amtrack tubes are over capacity) and the Harbor Rail Tunnel, which is still being pushed through the Environmental Impact process. This is expected to take hundreds or thousands of trucks a day off the George Washington Bridge, the Lincoln Tunnel and the Tappan Zee Bridge (and its replacement), to the great benefit of motorists (and air quality) since each truck takes up as much highway as five or more cars.

So Biden can’t keep his stories straight. It seems clear to me that he skims everything and reads nothing. That’s a recipe for disaster.

Did Obama pick him to provide protection against any possible impeachment attempt?

I can’t see anyone, even on the Left, giving him enough of a pass to elect him as President. I hope.

njcommuter on June 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

KS Rex

What I found surprising about this story was that 6 of the 7 unions involved actually *agreed* to the cuts, and the 7th only voted them down by like 12 votes. Maybe the unions are finally starting to read the writing on the wall.

Not the same deal.

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 10:50 AM

DrW on June 9, 2009 at 10:38 AM

Oh, how I want a Kindle! I really think that kind of device is what might actually give the cost savings that could save dead tree media. (You can aleady get a print-look NYT delivered automatically to the Kindle every morning, for example.) The problem is that the devices need to be about 1/4 the current cost to really catch on.

KS Rex on June 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Not the same deal.
loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Uhhhhhhh… Whatdya mean?

KS Rex on June 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Biden is, I think, seriously brain damaged.
I wonder, each time he surfaces, if the administration realizes what comedy it is when combined with the megalomaniac Obama.
What little brain Obama has is thoroughly canceled out by Biden’s damaged one.

ORconservative on June 9, 2009 at 10:55 AM

KS Rex

Uhhhhhhh… Whatdya mean?

It is my understanding that each union voted on different concessions.

loppyd on June 9, 2009 at 10:58 AM

I don’t think I will be broken hearted at the loss of yet another DNC propaganda outlet.

JIMV on June 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM

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