Two Dems defect in NY Senate, control flips to GOP
posted at 5:15 pm on June 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
What better way to complete a day in which Barack Obama’s economic policies lose the majority in a Gallup poll, Dems lose the edge on the GOP in a Rasmussen poll on economics, and the Supreme Court apparently blocks Obama’s dictatorial dissolution of an American carmaker than to highlight a “parliamentary coup” in Albany, NY? Manic Monday turned literal in the New York state Senate, where Democrats Pedro Espada and Hiram Monserrate switched sides and gave control of the chamber to the Republicans, only five months after losing control of it:
Republicans appear to have retaken control of New York’s Senate after two dissident Democrats jumped the aisle in a parliamentary coup.
The flip of senators Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens gives Republicans a 32-30 edge in the chamber. Within an hour of the overthrow, Republicans named Espada temporary president of the Senate Dean Skelos of Nassau County vice president and majority leader. Skelos is the former majority leader.
WKBW uses some incendiary language in this reporting. It’s not a “coup” at all; it was a leadership change accomplished through a democratic process, rather than a Democratic process. Perhaps that’s why WKBW considers it a “coup” rather than a consequence of bad Democratic leadership.
The New York Times reports on the background, a little less breathlessly:
Why Mr. Espada and Mr. Monserrate suddenly defected on Monday afternoon was not immediately clear. Both men are under investigation by the authorities. The state attorney general’s office is investigating a health care agency, Soundview HealthCare Network, that Mr. Espada ran until recently. And Mr. Monserrate, who was indicted on felony assault charges in March stemming from an attack on his companion, would automatically be thrown out of office if convicted.
One source of contention among Democrats recently has been Mr. Smith’s support for same-sex marriage. Senator Rubén Díaz Sr., a Democrat from the Bronx, has been outspoken in his insistence that legislation allowing gay couples to marry not be allowed to come to a vote. Some had speculated he might leave the Democratic Party if Mr. Smith were to allow a vote.
But Mr. Díaz did not join Mr. Espada and Mr. Monserrate in the leadership vote on Monday. It was not immediately clear whether the same-sex marriage legislation played any role in the leadership dispute.
One person backing the revolt to put Republicans back in charge was Tom Golisano, the Rochester businessman and founder of Responsible New York, a political action committee that gave thousands of dollars to Senate Democrats last year to help them take control of the Senate, but who has become increasingly critical of the party. Mr. Golisano recently announced that he was moving his legal residence to Florida out of anger about the budget deal crafted in April by Democratic leaders in Albany, which included an increase in taxes on high earners.
Well, we could certainly award Mr. Golisano a Captain Louis Renault award for his shock, shock at Democrats hiking taxes and playing class warfare, but we’ll skip that for the moment. It looks as if the people who funded the Democratic outreach to the center have become disillusioned, at least in New York, with the policies Democrats actually advance. They ran on one set of policies and the Democratic leadership tried adopting a different set of priorities once in power. The result isn’t a coup at all; it’s the normal palliative that democracy allows, that which allows the people to toss out bad leaders before they do any real damage. In fact, that’s why we don’t need coups in America, and shame on WBKW for its poor reporting.










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Damn, a good day to be a Republican (finally.
Take that Specter
faol on June 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM
And the reason this wasn’t reported prior to their defection?
*snort*
fogw on June 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Again the Latino’s make a wise choice.
WashJeff on June 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM
I always say it
and always mean it
but some days its sweeter than others
I LOVE NY BABY
blatantblue on June 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Nothing but laughter here in this peanut gallery.
Imagine how Specter would feel if the same thing happened in the houses in DC? LOL.
Spiritk9 on June 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM
hope and change!!!
PackerBronco on June 8, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Let’s see…nothing about these guys corruption and investigation…until they turn Republican!!! BWAAAAAAAAA! Now that’s funny right there…I don’t care who you are!
sabbott on June 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Between this and the Chrysler stay that has been granted, I’m beginning to believe there is some hope…
singlemalt_18 on June 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Wow. Just Wow.
Now let’s see if the NY Republicans actually start to move right.
Iblis on June 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM
I’m feeling a thrill up my leg.
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
Lockstein13 on June 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM
SO far, I don’t see any listings, that these 2 are conservatives, in any way? Perhaps this is just a jump, to insure re-election next year? I don’t know? But for now, I’ll take it, if it means they will vote to reverse, or stop some of the hefty tax legislation that Democrats seem to want to push thru.
As for the pending investigations. I don’t see how jumping parties, would help, stop, or reverse criminal investigations.
capejasmine on June 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out!
Limerick on June 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I am filled with Hope.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I’d thought Allah would write this article. Anyway, let’s see if these two gentlemen get the same treatment that good-ol-specter got.
TimTebowSavesAmerica on June 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Me thinks,they are finally are coming out of the fog,
kinda like a long horror movie,where finally they are
seeing the truth!!
canopfor on June 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM
The result isn’t a coup at all; it’s the normal palliative that democracy allows, that which allows the people to toss out bad leaders before they do any real damage.
*Looks at the economy…looks at Ogabe…looks at the economy…*
How again does the tossing occur?
Bishop on June 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Witness…Delusion! :p
daesleeper on June 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Well, not if they jump this way.
the_nile on June 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Hope and change. Been hoping for a few months. It is a very puzzling experience for a narcissist to wrap his head around rejection. It is nearly impossible to have them get it.
seven on June 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Real Hope and Real Change is slowly
cometh,but cometh it will!!
canopfor on June 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM
and maybe with the ill-gotten richness of their experiences.
Dont get me wrong. I’m glad that the myopic NY Guv has got it right between the eyes, but if those two turn out to be crooks or violent felons, oy vey.
Western_Civ on June 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM
If this thread doesn’t bring out the trolls…
ladyingray on June 8, 2009 at 5:28 PM
This is a change I was hoping for.
thmsmgnm on June 8, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Let’s hope for the best. I agree, just because these two changed party affiliation isn’t too much to get worked up over, in and of itself.
The GOP needs true conservatives, not more RINOs.
UltimateBob on June 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Photo essay Sarah Palin takes NY
Coincidence that Sarah was just there in NY ?
William Amos on June 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM
how could you ignore the EU election news in this?
oh and Palin is on Hannity tonight!
and Rush went Nuclear earlier today
jp on June 8, 2009 at 5:31 PM
I LOVE NY BABY
blatantblue on June 8,2009 at 5:19PM.
blatantblue:
Who would of guessed,that the epicentre of waking up,
from da horror of Hopey would occur in New York!
Oh happy day,eh Blatantblue:)
canopfor on June 8, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Now let`s see if we can flip Patterson out and get Rudy in and at least flip Schumer the bird.
ThePrez on June 8, 2009 at 5:33 PM
wow, did NY State finally wake up to the nonsense?
I say maybe. Lets see if this guy turns out to be a total rino.
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Eh, probably. Look at Hillarys replacement, we had hopes for her and she put the knife right in our backs.
ThePrez on June 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Probably just New York State power politics in play, but it would be interesting if — after all these years of hearing that the Catholic faith of Latinos in the U.S. would eventually come into conflict with the Democratic Party’s agenda, that their complete control of certain sectors of government, like the NYS Legislature and governor’s office and their desire to now get all their liberal social agenda items passed turns out to finally be the trigger point that starts a Latino turning away from the Democrats.
jon1979 on June 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Some NY Republican has got to start talking about the out of control spending in the state and oppose it!
Iblis on June 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM
1994 repeat on the way/
jp on June 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM
What’s not love? Well, maybe not the traffic…
ladyingray on June 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Photo Essay
William Amos on June 8,2009 at 5:30PM.
William Amos: Thanks for the link WA,it appears to me
Governor Sarah Palin has no trouble draw
ing a crowd!:)
canopfor on June 8, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Wasn’t Hiram Monserrate the guy that slashed the bejesus out of his wife?
Ryan Gandy on June 8, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Finally,
!!!!!!!!!!! 1984 !!!!!!!!!!!!
is beginning to fade!!
canopfor on June 8, 2009 at 5:41 PM
the people come to mind.
But I did meet a firefighter who was helping with 9/11 when I was on vacation in FL. Awesome guy.. but meetin 1 or 5 awesome people in that area of ohhhh 5 million or more, doesn’t make it great.
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 5:41 PM
There`s more to NY that that leech of a city.
ThePrez on June 8, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Yeah I know. But if you met the NYer’s I have…
Well I am not holding my breath on this. Lets see how he does in Senate before anything.
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Heh, did they consider Specter’s switch a coup?
Schadenfreude on June 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM
OH HAPPY DAY!!!!
WOOT!
christene on June 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Ah…I’ve never had any problems with New Yorkers…not even that snooty witch who “corrected” me in SOHO when she overheard me talking (southern accent, ya know).
She sniffed, “That’s HOW-ston”. I said, “It’s not in Texas ma’am!”
ladyingray on June 8, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Signs of life,quick somebody grab a respirator we have a pulse!
canditaylor68 on June 8, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Y’all should see what’s goin’ on down here in Raleigh, NC! Former governor Mike “Sleazely” Easley is in it really deep.
SouthernGent on June 8, 2009 at 5:45 PM
upinak new yorkers are not what you think
Yea a lot of em arejerks
But they’d give you the shirt off their back
blatantblue on June 8, 2009 at 5:47 PM
A coup? When Specter jumped parties no one called it a coup.
Terrye on June 8, 2009 at 5:47 PM
LMFAO! How-ston.. CLASSIC!
I like the ones who try to say the Alaskan names. I correct those snotty people too ;)
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Two words of caution: Kirsten Gillibrand
ThePrez on June 8, 2009 at 5:47 PM
NYC won’t.. but I agree NY Staters would.
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Do youthink he will be re-elected SG?
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/03/23/2009-03-23_state_senator_hiram_monserrate_indicted_.html
He is accused of slashing his girlfriend with a broken glass. Don’t think we should be excited about having this guy on the team.
Mark1971 on June 8, 2009 at 5:51 PM
NYC will
The upper west side of manhattan with it’s pansy leftists doesn’t define the entire five boroughs
blatantblue on June 8, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Normally, though, I’m a bit of amusement for New Yorkers…they all want to hear me talk…ask me where I’m from…LOL
The funniest was at a coffee shop and the waitress, after she took my order, asked the inevitable question of where I was from. I looked at her and told her…then I asked her where she was from. She was from Europe! Her accent was better than mine!
Gotta love New York.
ladyingray on June 8, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Finally, the mask is beginning to slip.
The exposure is only just beginning for the Socialist Democratic Party!!
Americans, not political parties, but Americans are beginning to see what is happening to their country.
Now this is change that we can all believe in.
Gulf Coast on June 8, 2009 at 5:52 PM
It has begun!
pilamaye on June 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM
He was term-limited. The voters gave the mantle to his Lt. Governor, our dear (in the headlights) “Bev” Perdue by a slim margin in November.
I predict he’ll be off to jail, though! :)
SouthernGent on June 8, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Come on out to Queens, upinak. We’re friendly out here.
Gay “marriage” is causing the NY Democrats to fracture – as we saw with Prop 8 in California, many Latinos and blacks don’t have much time for the gay “marriage” mafia, and are kicking back.
It’s a good day for the elephants!
Fallen Sparrow on June 8, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Tee hee!
baldilocks on June 8, 2009 at 5:58 PM
True.
and also, this is a bit of a “reverse coup” rather than an actual coup. The actual coup was taking republican control in the first place. Albany is set up to give one party control of one chamber, and the other another. This last cycle saw Paterson stage the real coup, which was taking leadership of that chamber away from republicans. this may be why the term coup was used in the first place.
ernesto on June 8, 2009 at 5:58 PM
a true victory for the GOP.
sesquipedalian on June 8, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Obama got Perdue elected, McCrory got 10% more of the vote on actual election day, but the early voting in which the black vote and ACORN came out strong did him in.
Easley is a scum bag, I figure he figured that if John Edwards could get a Fake UNC Job and payday to launch his Presidential campaign from, he could get his wife a nice 6 Figure NC State salary and fake job
jp on June 8, 2009 at 5:59 PM
along with the former Speaker, Democrat Jim Black who is warming up a cell for him.
Geez, how corrupt are the NC Dems? and its only got worse thanks to Yankee immigration to the south.
jp on June 8, 2009 at 6:01 PM
I wonder how this effects pending gay marriage legislation in NY. The NY Senate is 2 votes short. It has already been passed by the NY assembly.
diogenes on June 8, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Sadly, I doubt this will do much to change how much New York sucks as far as Cost of Living and the bad business economy here. That’s why I’m hoping to move away as soon as possible. And while WKBW posted the words and has yet to change the report, the words were written by the AP, so if you’re going to scold WKBW, please point some of that at the AP for originally writing those words, too. I seriously doubt that WKBW is the only news outlet posting those words on their sites or in print.
DakRoland on June 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM
cost of living is way too much
out of control
absurd
i wanna stay in NY 4evah but i doubt ill be able to.
blatantblue on June 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM
“Die, you gravy sucking pigs.” -Steve Martin
SDSquint on June 8, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Monserrate represents the Jackson Heights area of Queens. This is a melting pot of Hispanics from all over Latin America. A great place to eat good cheap Latino food, which “wise” New Yorkers like me take advantage of often. I’ve dined there many times, and I can tell you that it’s always a “rich experience”.
ardenenoch on June 8, 2009 at 6:12 PM
I wish I could leave as well, as much as I love CNY (central new york).
ThePrez on June 8, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Hoo-Ray in my home state!
RobCon on June 8, 2009 at 6:13 PM
im watching the local NY news..state dems are on podium claiming it wqs illegal or something
mythicknight on June 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Y’all do understand what type of scumbags we are dealing with, right? Any party that Monserrate backs should distant themselves immediately. Better to be in the minority than to be with that thug b@#$h
sweeper on June 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Liberals think democracy is illegal when it favors the other side. :)
ThePrez on June 8, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Can we start here?
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/03/monserrate-indicted.html
Run away conservatives, run away
sweeper on June 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Looks like this news is getting a whole lot of ugly on it. :(
ThePrez on June 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Monserrate is into regulation, in such a way as would have ended the co-op apartment system in NYC. Boards simply could not have undertaken the legal risk involved in rejecting an applicant if Monserrate had had his way.
ForNow on June 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Finally!
A RED letter day in a BLUE state. I like it!
OneConservative on June 8, 2009 at 6:34 PM
I hope this is just the FIRST result of Democrat over-reach.
On another note:
Using the word “coup” here is journalistic malpractice. Whomever wrote it should be shunned, fined (not necessarly fired) or forced to take an English class.
dentalque on June 8, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Specter is probably looking at this event and thinking “aw shit!”.
GarandFan on June 8, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Can you say “Palin Effect”… In NY and draws 20,000 in small town Auburn, goes to Yankee game, gives speech and does walk on Long Island…
Coincidence?? NAAAAHHHHH!!
Me thinks legislators realized what side of the aisle they need to be on…
davek70 on June 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM
And Jumpin’ Jim Jeffords.
jgapinoy on June 8, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Ummmm… so the GOP gets control through the maneuverings of two people with criminal investigations in the works??? I’m not sure that sounds good.
PersonalLiberty on June 8, 2009 at 7:02 PM
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I blame Rush… ;)
RalphyBoy on June 8, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Having Monserrate on board is not a good thing.
Go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Monserrate
Scroll down to :
Arrest and indictment
He’s a nasty piece of work; and should not be in the Republican Party.
patch on June 8, 2009 at 7:39 PM
While these are mostly positive developments, and welcome ones, we are a looooooooong way from stopping Obama and his hideous, freedom-destroying Plan for Amerika.
-Dave
Dave R. on June 8, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Rove, you magnificent bastard.
BPD on June 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM
WKBW used to be the number one news station in Buffalo, by far. Then their veteran anchor retired, they dropped the best local news theme ever, and – right after the hugely successful Bruce Almighty was filmed in their newsroom – decided to completely revamp their news operation.
Now they’re in last place.
YYZ on June 8, 2009 at 7:59 PM
… That said, the report was from the AP, not WKBW, and I’m not accusing them of having a political bias.
YYZ on June 8, 2009 at 8:04 PM
TURNING IT AROUND, BABY!!!
LibertyBoyNYC on June 8, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Not sure I agree…attack weakness.
LibertyBoyNYC on June 8, 2009 at 8:18 PM
The tide is turning on many of the radical liberal lefts agenda to socialize this nation. While Obama and his party has continued the government take-over of private businesses, and now his multi-trillion dollar “medi-gov-dot.org, a serious backlash is coming and not soon enough.
While the New York “coup” may produce more verbose
soundbites, the big story is the Supreme Court putting a halt to an overzealous government that has stepped far beyond their boundries.
Rovin on June 8, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Two Dems defect in NY Senate, control flips to GOP
HEY BARRY…
Your little world’s slowly melting, now:
WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
byteshredder on June 8, 2009 at 8:52 PM
What I have to laugh about is the Democrat money man leaving New York for Florida, because of the raising of taxes. What the heck did he think would happen?
SC.Charlie on June 8, 2009 at 8:54 PM
People, people, people – two words- Elliot Spitzer. NYS is not known for its squeaky clean politicians.
mph on June 8, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Golisano’s move was the shot heard round the statehouse!
PattyJ on June 8, 2009 at 10:08 PM
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