Rasmussen: GM owners unlikely to buy another
posted at 1:33 pm on June 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
If Barack Obama thinks that a government takeover of General Motors will rebuild consumer confidence in the automaker, he’d better have a Plan B. Rasmussen polled current owners of GM cars, and found that less than half would consider buying another. And in the general adult population, only 16% said they’d be likely to buy from GM for their next auto:
Only 42% of those who currently own a General Motors car are even somewhat likely to buy a GM product for their next car. That figure includes just 30% who are Very Likely to do so.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 43% of current GM owners are not likely to buy another GM car, while 16% are not sure.
Democrats who own GM cars are somewhat more likely than others to buy their next car from GM.
Only six percent of non-GM owners thought it would be very likely that they would buy from the bailout recipient. While 6% represents a healthy number of adults in the US, it does not bode well for market growth that 94% of Americans would consider something else other than a GM product first. And since GM competes in a global market, that number has to approach statistical zero abroad.
The demos of current GM owners are interesting on this. More women than men will consider a GM, and more singles than marrieds as well. Only 32% of those with children at home will consider it at all. Ninety-five percent of those who fall in the “political class” would consider GM, but only 37% of the mainstream. Maybe that’s because the political class is getting most of the payoff from the effort. Interestingly, though, 47% of investors would consider a GM car, while only 30% of those who work in the private sector would consider it.
Among the general population, though, overwhelming majorities refuse to consider it. Most worrisome, Obama’s normally strong age demographics have bailed on GM. Eighty-three percent of 18-29s won’t consider GM, while 62% of thirtysomethings reject GM as well. Fifty-six percent of Democrats take a pass, and that number goes to 71% among Republicans.
On the other hand, 51% of Americans say they will consider a Ford, primarily because they didn’t take bailout money from the federal government. That gives Ford a potent selling position, one that will resonate both commercially and politically — and one that may stick in the craw of the Obama administration. Ford has already vaulted ahead of GM for the first time in decades in sales, and if this poll gives any indication, those trends will deepen.










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Finally, a feel-good story. Join the Resistance.
JiangxiDad on June 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Lifelong GM owner (4 cars).
Was looking forward to the new Camaro… but not now.
Skywise on June 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM
I have always owned GMC trucks,SUV’s or Vans. I will replace my current Yukon with an Expedition. GM wasted our money and went backrupt anyway. At least Ford saw the downside and said no thanks.
faol on June 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM
And this is BEFORE Obama imposes new standards on what kind of cars GM can build.
Doughboy on June 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Boycott GM and Chrysler.
That will send the most powerful message that we don’t like government ignoring the Constitution in order to grab power and reward union cronies.
Daggett on June 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Boycott Obama.
JiangxiDad on June 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM
And what do you think will happen next? I think the current administration is going to further help the manufacturer by giving it even more help against its competitors.
shick on June 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM
I love the Pontiac G6
And they’re killing Pontiac
eff them
BPD on June 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM
You mean American taxpayers? Or China?
Abby Adams on June 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Joined? I am a life member of the those who don’t buy from the Government!
GM nor Chrysler will never sit in my driveway again.
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM
I am a sinlge, female, 30 something that will not buy a GM car. I currently drive a Ford and will buy another one when it’s time for a new car.
txag92 on June 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Not unlike the trend of public school teachers sending their children to private/religious/charter schools – they have an insider’s view on a cr@p product.
Dark-Star on June 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM
ZIIING!
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM
I haven’t understood why Saturn is still saturating our media with ads, given it’s going away.
AnninCA on June 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM
When I get around to replacing my Nissan, I’ll replace it with another Nissan built right here in Tennessee.
ladyingray on June 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
How many of those current GM owners are UAW employees? They get a great deal on cars that we don’t and it would be pretty hard to give that up. I’d love to see how the numbers go if UAW members are excluded.
efemdy on June 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Hey Ed, how about doing a HotAir poll on who will keep buying GM? Or Chysler for that matter.
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Is Ford going to be able to compete in the long term against two companies owned by the federal government and the unions? Does anyone believe the unions aren’t going to try to screw Ford within the next five years?
myrenovations on June 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
That’s the only way Obama can ensure GM and Chrysler survive aside from endless taxpayer funding. So he’ll destroy the entire auto industry in order to help out the UAW.
Doughboy on June 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
When you build trash for 30 years, people just may happen to notice. GM is about to experience some planned obsolescence.
TimTebowSavesAmerica on June 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
You all hate America!
Chuck Schick on June 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Can’t wait for Obama and henchmen/women in Congress to make it illegal to buy any automobile not made by Government Motors…think it can’t happen…just wait. I love my 2008 GMC Pickup, but it will soon be traded on a Ford F250. Screw GM and Chrysler!
jwp1964 on June 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Penske bought it. They aren’t going away for now.
myrenovations on June 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Yet another reason for my family to keep buying Hondas.
jgapinoy on June 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I’m feeling the same about my Civic built in my neighboring state Ohio.
Oink on June 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Of course. All government fleets, from federal to state to local (and the states and locals will do what the feds tell them, “buy GM”, or they won’t get federal cash) will be GM fleets, thereby barely keeping GM alive though requiring the further injection of government funds (“investing”). This will be tag-teamed with the fed’s enviro-wacko policies that will drive Ford out of business and leave nothing but government motors. And lookout for tariffs and strange new taxes on non-union autos made in the US. They’re coming and coming strong.
progressoverpeace on June 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
That raises an interesting question, perhaps a Constitutional question. At what point will government intervention in, say, advertising for GM products, cross that line from a free market to a government sponsorship of a single “private” industry over other actual private industries?
Taxpayer dollars spent to promote one industry over investor-owned or private industries…that seems to be a gross disregard for the role of government.
Same as with banking. And the same as will happen as “government” assumes ownership over other segments of the market.
Can we call it socialism now?
coldwarrior on June 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
It’s worth noting, that this poll is for the current lineup of GM vehicles. Wait until they start making Obama’s crapwagons, the number will get close to zero percent.
Rebar on June 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
The young Democrats have been indoctrinated against corporatism and corporate-welfare. They might be more favorable to GM if Obama would come out and say he’s doing it for the unions, but I’m not sure.
Count to 10 on June 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
I’ll keep my GMC Yukon running until it disintegrates around me, though I have a feeling that OEM parts are going to be radically more expensive in the future.
Bishop on June 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM
I think Ford will do just fine. Most of my friends who were going to buy a new dodge or chevy for their “toys” went with Ford after I asked them why they were going to buy a truck from a company who was going to go bankrupt.
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM
I have bought Dodges and Pontiacs for the past 20 years. No more. Ford or American-made imports from this point on.
Mallard T. Drake on June 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM
I am a lifelong Chevy/GMC truck owner as well.
I would happily buy another truck from General Motors once they emerge from bankruptcy.
I will NEVER darken the door of Government Motors – ever.
turfmann on June 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Another interesting look…
If GM is to be “saved,” when will “government” impose length of ownership rules on car owners? At what point will “government” decide that anyone owning a car more than ten years old be an obstacle to the viability of GM? Thus, if you own a car more than ten years old, or like mine, over 20 years old, will we be be looking at new taxation on these older cars in excess of the original taxes paid so we can continue to own them or drive them?
coldwarrior on June 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM
42% would buy another?
Americans are nuts!
This is like Obama winning a 2nd term.
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I scared myself. :(
Shy Guy on June 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM
I can just see Chuck’s mascara running as he cries/screams
“Leave GM alone, you Bastards!!!”
Agent of the Cross on June 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Yes. We already crossed that line a while back.
Daggett on June 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Thank you. Now it makes sense!
AnninCA on June 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM
our money was invested in those companies. if these companies did well, the government could divest sooner and the taxpayers could get their money back. isn’t that what you want?
why do you hate America?
sesquipedalian on June 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM
I love my American-built Toyota. Not likely to change.
AnninCA on June 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM
My father-in-law bought a new one just before they threw the switch…. I don’t understand his reasoning…. he’s got a good head on his shoulders… The only thing I can reason out is that he knew his WARANTEE WAS BACKED BY THE GOVERNMENT…
CynicalOptimist on June 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Trash?
I had a conversation with my uncle last week (a lefty) and I mentioned Obama running GM and he said, “Good! Maybe he can do something with GM.” He said, “It’s about time the company gets turned around.” When I had this shocked look on my face, he asked “Name me one good thing GM has done in the last however many years.” I said, “Build good cars (trucks too).” He said they’re building cars that people don’t want to buy. I reminded him that no one is buying anything and the downhill slide began when gasoline was $4/gal. I am getting sick to death of hearing that “cars Americans are willing to buy” or “jobs Americans won’t do.” It’s all complete and total horse $hit and I don’t know why Ford isn’t screaming that from the rooftops. At least they’ve not yet been muzzled by the government. Ford needs to say “We’ll build you a truck!”
I’m so mad I could spit.
Oink on June 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM
The government owning private companies is not American.
myrenovations on June 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Sure. Or it will be because your vehicle doesn’t comply with the new emissions standard.
Oink on June 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM
My brother-in-law just bought a new GM car last week. He got it from one of the dealerships that has been cut off, so they are practically giving away the cars. He said it was too good to resist.
myrenovations on June 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM
I am so glad I bought a Saturn last year instead of another Buick!! I would love to see Saturn sales skyrocket while Zombie GM and Zombie Chrysler sales plummet.
rockmom on June 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM
The last GM product I owned was a 1984 Corvette before that a 1964 Buick Special. I won’t own another that is for sure.
skatz51 on June 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM
And the aftermarket parts are already made in China!
Oink on June 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Forget GM, Ford is even ahead of Toyota in the USA.
burt on June 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM
I wouldn’t want the plan to fail. That’s not reasonable. However, I honestly can’t understand the GM deal.
Nobody likes their cars.
AnninCA on June 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM
I’m in the market for a car. I would have considered a GM or a Chrysler if they had gone straight into bankruptcy reorganization. Now that the UAW and the State have their meat hooks into them, they don’t exist anymore as far as I’m concerned.
Probably buy a Ford, or maybe a Saturn if they remain privately owned.
forest on June 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM
FIFY
rockmom on June 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM
The question is why do YOU hate America?
I don’t hate America… I just don’t want my government running MY businesses!
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I’ve had a Chevy Venture since my daughter was born seven and a half years ago. It runs great and I love it, but I will NEVER buy another GM vehicle again.
CurtZHP on June 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I wouldn’t buy an Obamamobile if it was the last vehicle out there.
Alana on June 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Oh Oinky, the reason I bought Ford and will to this day. They last and are reliable.
How many bailouts can Chrysler or GM get? Chrysler I count about 5 now. GM.. not so sure yet.
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM
I been driving GM cars for 32 yeas now. After the Govt. takeover of GM I am no longer going to buy GM. I think I will be going to Ford.
USMCDevilDog on June 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM
How many people who own GM cars are going to want OnStar now, knowing the government will now probably know where they are and where they are going?
CurtZHP on June 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM
The federal government is not a hedge fund, you moron.
I want our Constitution followed and I want those who have abused it to be jailed. That’s what I want.
I do not want the federal government to think that it can “invest” money in anything it wants. It cannot.
I hate traitors, like you and you ilk. You despicable scumbags are destroying America, at a rapid pace.
progressoverpeace on June 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM
By giving much of GM & Chrysler to the UAW, Obama guaranteed that the contracts would not be renegotiated and their greatest problems will go unsolved. The UAW will continue to make it too expensive to make cars compared to the foreign competition.
So GM and Chrysler are no better off now than they were before, except that the Government can keep spending YOUR and MY money to prop up the UAW and the two companies. So they won’t do well.
In the impossible chance that they did turn a profit, do you actually think the government would divest? When it’s collecting even more revenues for its government programs? Not a chance. But it won’t happen, anyway.
Daggett on June 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM
How many of them will change their minds when a new GM car is sold with a heavily subsidized price starts to come equipped with a nice tax credit?
Stephen Macklin on June 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM
That’s so ridiculous, it will probably happen.
FuriousAmerican on June 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM
I’d join the boycott, but with my Jeep about to be paid off this month and only having 5k miles on it, I don’t expect to be in the car market for some time.
I suspect that I will continue to observe that 9 out of 10 Obama stickers in Seattle seem to be affixed to non GM and non Chrysler products.
Since the government owns GM and Chrysler, shouldn’t it stop funding mass transit projects? How can you turn a profit if the left hand is telling everyone to get rid of their cars?
rw on June 8, 2009 at 1:57 PM
I was looking at a new Chevy late last year, but I think my next car will be a 2010 Mustang over the new Camaro (Challenger was also nixed for the same reason… bailouts).
smfoushee on June 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Go with an f-250 Diesel … my Dog loves his, after I convinced him to get that and not a dodge.
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Oh, we’ll keep buying GM’s–we just won’t get to drive them. They’ll be given to the Socialists’ victim class du jour.
Bugler on June 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM
I’m one of those buyers. In the past I have bought a new Chevrolet pickup every 3 years but that has ended. I will now buy from an automobile manufacturer that believes in the capitalistic free market system . . . probably ford. Obama can take the peoples truck made by GM and shove it.
rplat on June 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM
So when Obama notices his GM’s market share, and that of his UAW’s Chrysler are losing to Ford, what’s to stop him from excluding Ford from any further gov’t purchases?
And how about Ford’s UAW workers maybe choosing to go on strike that would force Ford into a similar gov’t bailout?
Just sayin’
fudgypup on June 8, 2009 at 2:01 PM
I hope the UAW gets destroyed in all of this. IF we had just let them go bankrupt then the performing pieces would have been bought up (like Penske did with Pontiac) and GM would have been on the way to a new company already. Instead we have a 31 year old kid in the WH playing CEO – it’s almost like for them its monopoly money.
dpierson on June 8, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Any money the Government makes will be “re-invested” in buying our private businesses, the UAW, and paying thjose 21 Czars who report to nobody but him. Back in the U.S.S.A.
kingsjester on June 8, 2009 at 2:02 PM
These bailouts and all the thuggery associated with them was for the benefit of the UAW. For me personally, I won’t buy another UAW assembled vehicle. That my year old Chevy is a piece of junk only makes it easier to keep the pledge.
GCM on June 8, 2009 at 2:02 PM
I am beginning to think the whole car industry fiasco was just a way to pay back the unions for the contributions they gave to The One.
dpierson on June 8, 2009 at 2:03 PM
You can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear and you can’t develop a viable business plan without breaking the union contracts. GM had only one chance and that was to go Chapter 11 last fall before the government got their hooks in. As far as buying GM products the incentives which will be provided to keep them afloat will probably get some customers back but only if they are allowed build vehicles that people want. It is too bad that most of those profitable vehicles are on the chopping block.
duff65 on June 8, 2009 at 2:03 PM
When we heard all this news the first thing we thought is “well we have owned our last suburban”. They will make the green cars that are smaller and get the same gas milege at a higher price.
They should consider making them all wood grain on the outside to save you money on the funeral costs when you get plowed driving one. You won’t survive.
workingforpigs on June 8, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Look, GM is going to be producing clown cars because the organization is run by clowns. I think the clown industry needs a bailout, since that is a potent customer base for the new GM.
EMD on June 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Rasmussen must not have polled my stupid uncle. He’ll keep buying GM products until the day he dies or until the company finally goes out of existence. Though he despises Obambi he’s just loyal to the GM brand regardless.
Percy_Peabody on June 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM
I will drive my Pontiac Vibe into the ground, and then no more GM’s for me. I’ve already given them enough of my money. I want to buy from a company that can actually build good cars and plans to compete fairly in the marketplace rather than relying on government patronage.
evergreen on June 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Huh? You don’t understand that the GM deal is to create a money laundering device in order to maintain a steady flow of taxpayer dollars to the UAW?
a capella on June 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM
BRAND RATINGS
Consumer Reports gives each auto maker a report card based on the reliability of its models and scores from vehicle tests. The grades are on a 100-point scale:
Honda: 78
Subaru: 75
Toyota: 74
Mazda: 73
Mercedes-Benz: 72
Nissan: 72
Volkswagen: 72
BMW: 72
Hyundai: 70
Volvo: 65
Mitsubishi: 64
Ford: 63
Suzuki: 60
General Motors: 57
Chrysler: 48
MB4 on June 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Was there ever any doubt? Good golly, but the UAW ended up sitting pretty.
There is a lawsuit by some of the pension fund bond holders.
I didn’t quite grasp the story, but they are hoping Ginsberg will agree with them. The part I didn’t get was why they chose her to sponsor it.
I’m hoping to read more about this. I think their lawsuit has merit.
AnninCA on June 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM
It’s coming. The Automobile Fair Competition Act where no manufacturer will be able to sell more cars than the others. Who is John Galt?
BrianA on June 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM
I’ve got a Saturn now and had to talk my parents out of buying one a few months ago, not because the car was bad as much as we were unsure about the future of the Saturn brand in particular and didn’t want to support GM in general.
I’m hopeful that Penske can keep things going well with Saturn as the Aura sedan, one of the three models that Penske retained, is a *really* good car that can compete with the other foreign offerings like the Honda Accord and the Hyundai Sonata.
teke184 on June 8, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Nothing wrong with that. If I find any product I really like and actually feel loyal, then it’s a good thing. So often, it’s the opposite!
AnninCA on June 8, 2009 at 2:08 PM
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Our money was invested in the bank bailouts. Some of the banks want to give the money back and the Government says “No”.
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What makes you think any returns from this “investment” will accrue to the benefit of the taxpayers?
News2Use on June 8, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Not just the unions, but the enviro-wackos, too. The federal government, under this insane junta, always planned on bankrupting the auto industry and then taking them over. The first signal was when the idiot messiah signed that executive order to allow states to make their own regulations, which launched the moronic global warming/auto rules from the nutballs in CA. At that point, the future was clear.
The feds love owning the auto industry because it allows them to funnel money to unions, but more importantly, to impose their moronic enviro-regulations almost under the radar, as there are no private owners left to complain.
These people should be in jail for this.
progressoverpeace on June 8, 2009 at 2:10 PM
ftfy
upinak on June 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM
I counted 31 cars I have owned over the years and 16 of them were GM (1967 Camaro was my first car). The one Jeep I bought told me to stay away from that outfit. My wife prefers German cars so they show up five times in my list. I bought my last Chevy when I noticed several of the Blazers I had been through were coming from New Jersey. After the way NJ jinked the election when Torricelli was convicted I switched to a Ford F150 built in the south.
DanMan on June 8, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Yep. He’ll try to if the people don’t stop him.
shick on June 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Yep, unless we do something about it.
shick on June 8, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Bingo. Both the GM and Chrysler deals.
Daggett on June 8, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Absolutely.
Obambi will try to kill Ford and regulate foreign makes (even those built in US based factories) into submission.
Ford will be killed along three fronts, as you have hinted at:
1. Porkulus and other Fed spending will mandate that Fed $$$ only buy from “manufacturers in which the taxpayer has a vested interest”. No Fords for those Govt fleets. Bye bye Ford police cars.
2. Continued regulation on vehicle design, via CAFE and Cap & Swindle, will drive up the price of all cars, including Ford; and
3. UAW will cripple Ford and Obambi will not allow the company to hire strikebreakers.
Don’t forget also that both GM and GE are the only two domestic manufacturers of freight locomotives in the US. Immelt is whoring after Obambi for “green” money and it will be interesting to see what Obambi does in the locomotive sector.
Wanderlust on June 8, 2009 at 2:15 PM
I have always owned an American car with a preference to Chevy. I finally bought my dream car a brand new Corvette and love it. Sad to say it is the last one I will ever own as I can not support a union/obama owned company.
jimsfishing on June 8, 2009 at 2:15 PM
You are assuming it can think.
daesleeper on June 8, 2009 at 2:15 PM
I haven’t really been a fan of the big three motor car companies since Carter was in office (not that that has anything to do with it.) Currently we have some fairly new cars (two Honda Civics and a 91 Nissan pickup which runs like a top) and are not in the market for a new vehicle. BUT we have been considering a larger pickup for camper/trailer loads. We have been looking at the Tundra. This latest turn of events might just lead us to buy Ford. Our capitalist version of the middle finger to Big Gov.
Driefromseattle on June 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM
That’s how the bastards will do it — not by making it illegal but by coming up with ways to make it a financial hardship to own and drive anything else.
infidel4life on June 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM
I drive a 2002 Suburban(LOVE it and it’s paid off), I will never buy another GM, or Chrsyler for that matter. I blame the UAW, this is Obama paying them back for getting him elected…
Hate America?? NO, I hate what Obama, Geo Soros, the unions, the MSM is doing to our country.. You would to if you weren’t a koolaid drinker…
reshas1 on June 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM
His economic brethren were famous for making them run on time. As for manufacture, he’ll make the remaining private company a “deal they can’t refuse”, and “invest” our money in it.
forest on June 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/06/08/obamas-enemies-list-grows
reshas1 on June 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Yes, but we need to recognize that progressive republicans helped us into this new age as well. Bush/Poulson contributed greatly.
shick on June 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM
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