Europe veers right
posted at 10:11 am on June 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
First, the British Labour party lost local council elections across the UK, including in Wales for the first time in almost a century. Next, Geert Wilders’ conservative party won the EU elections in the Netherlands. Now, in EU elections across the Continent, conservative and center-right parties have won across the board, giving momentum to a conservative revolution in the heart of Socialism Lite.
Has the Left hit its high-water mark in Europe?
Center-right and right-wing parties are the biggest winners in the elections to the European Parliament, which saw Europe’s left do poorly in most of the 27 member states. Turnout was the lowest since voting began in 1979.
The European Parliament elections mark a victory for center-right and right-wing parties as voters punish the left in a vote marked by a historically low turnout.
The center-right European People’s Party (EPP) held on to its position as the largest grouping in the European Parliament, with provisional results giving them 267, or around 36 percent, of the assembly’s 736 seats. The center-right’s showing was even better than indicated by the EPP’s results, as many euroskeptic members of the European Parliament are moving to other parliamentary groups.
The vote’s biggest loser is the center-left, with the Party of European Socialists (PES) winning just 159 seats, 56 fewer than in the 2004 election. “Tonight is a very difficult evening for Socialists in many nations in Europe,” Martin Schulz, lead candidate for Germany’s Social Democrats and the floor leader for the PES in the European Parliament, said on Sunday evening.
We can hope that Europe, after decades of adopting the watered-down Marxist economics of the Soviet Union despite holding them off in the Cold War, has finally come to its economic senses. The election of conservative and center-right parties to power in the EU will hopefully result in the dismantling of nanny-state mechanisms, as well as an emphasis on free trade rather than protectionism. Had it happened during the 2004 elections, we could have coordinated between the US and EU some economic changes to make a freer and more prosperous world.
However, that may read too much into these elections. Clearly, just as voters did in the US, voters in Europe punished the parties in power when the economic disaster hit. The low turnout shows that enthusiasm for the Left has definitely abated, but not that a great deal of enthusiasm exists for the Right and center-Right, at least not yet. Moreover, the kind of reform necessary to turn Europe towards free markets and away from socialism will create economic pain; if the EU Parliament can’t get it done in five years, they may well trigger a lot more enthusiasm for the Left all over again, especially within each country’s own domestic elections.
Ironically, the US and EU will head in opposite directions again, and we’ll see which creates wealth and which destroys it. Hopefully, American voters will begin to learn the lessons quickly enough to move in Europe’s new direction by the midterms.










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Reaganism isn’t dead. It is merely vacationing in Europe.
DarkKnight3565 on June 8, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Gosh. Socialism leads to economic disaster. What a surprise.
kingsjester on June 8, 2009 at 10:13 AM
What the Europeans cinsider as ‘right-wing’ or ‘conservative’ might get a little lost in translation, but this is still a good thing.
Tough economic times lead people to sink back down to reality a bit and vote for who they have known all along to be the wiser financial stewards.
Grafted on June 8, 2009 at 10:13 AM
I’m glad they are going conservative. If EU can do it, I believe the US will vote for it too. I see this as hope!
deidre on June 8, 2009 at 10:14 AM
This is a good sign, but no one should forget that “right” in Europe is very different from “right” in the US.
progressoverpeace on June 8, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Good, now all of those who said we need to be more like Europe should be content.
THE CHOSEN ONE on June 8, 2009 at 10:16 AM
“Right” in Europe is still left of Ogabe…..
Caper29 on June 8, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins would be considered “far right” in Europe.
SouthernGent on June 8, 2009 at 10:18 AM
You mean they’re actually fiscally conservative?
LibTired (KO) on June 8, 2009 at 10:18 AM
The prospect of being a cultural minority someday, living under Sharia Law, doth wonderfully concentrate the mind.
RBMN on June 8, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Hanan is on Beck right now.
forest on June 8, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Superb observation! And funny.
Geochelone on June 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM
This is about Europeans do not want Turkey in the EU, plus they fear the Islamification of Europe.
Note that just over 20% of the voters in Poland voted, in Germany it was 42%.
This was a vote that also said citizens do not trust any government bureaucrats. Why vote – nothing changes or gets better.
albill on June 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM
This is Europe’s last shot at survival… And a preview of our future.
Europe has been bankrupted by decades of socialism…
They’ve not been replacing their native population, probably due to the confiscatory taxation required to support socialism…
Which has led to them being overrun with muslim immigrants who are bringing the middle east to Europe…
If Europe doesn’t dismantle socialism, revive capitalism and industry, start making lots more babies not named “muhammed” it’s doomed.
wildcat84 on June 8, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Well, they’ve figured out it doesn’t work.
I guess years and years of high unemployment, low birth rate, “youth” problems, low manufacturing, terrible health care and many other issues is what it takes to wake people up.
It makes it even more frustrating that we are rushing to give ourselves the same headaches that Europe has had all these years.
The proof is there, but it will be ignored. Sickening.
reaganaut on June 8, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Finally, a Europe I want America to take after.
Tommy_G on June 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM
It’s amazing to me that we, as a nation, can’t look to other countries and learn from their mistakes. Much of our future has been foreshadowed elsewhere…. Spain has been making a concerted effort for “green jobs” for awhile, and just recently released a report that for every green job created, 2.2 non-green jobs were lost. Socialized health care in Canada and Great Britain has led to a reduction in the QUALITY of care. Statist economic policies have reduced most of Europe to economic stagnation, at worst, mediocrity at best.
And yet, we appear determined to repeat their mistakes.
BPD on June 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM
I honestly think it all depends on whether congress cracks down on ACORN, the WH census fraud, the coming voter intimidation, the threat against talk radio, and a weak and confused GOP.
Obama has plans to make it more difficult than ever before to have a free and fair election.
If the GOP waits until a month before the 2010 election to address these things we’ll end up as shocked as we were Nov 4th ’08.
katy on June 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Yeah, Geert Wilder’s party is known for it’s economic policies. None of this has anything to do with mass immigration…nothing to see here.
DFCtomm on June 8, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Europe meets Obama, then pulls the lever for a bunch of conservatives. Coincidence?
hawksruleva on June 8, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Europe wants Obama to fail.
Geochelone on June 8, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Finally. It took the threat of total economic collapse and the threat of losing a population war to the frothing jihadis – on a continental scale no less – for Europeans to start pulling their heads of of their collective @$$es. Hopefully it’s not too late.
Dark-Star on June 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Create a welfare state and open your borders and plenty of people will show up for the welfare. In other news, 1+1=2.
MarkT on June 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Wrong right.
Shy Guy on June 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Like they did back in November?
:)
abobo on June 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Hey Europe, don’t let Obama and Biden happen to your country. Just tune in to MSNBC and watch the 24/7 prolefeed from the Ministry of Truth. That should scare the snot out of you.
Geochelone on June 8, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Is it too little, too late?
cs89 on June 8, 2009 at 10:34 AM
I haven’t heard any on of the U.S. media spinning this yet. One would think the international election results would be giving some of our politicians pause.
BigD on June 8, 2009 at 10:36 AM
While the economic mess was undoubtedly the tipping point, the move away from socialism is about more than that. How else to explain the BNP winning a seat. I’m glad to see socialism get the shaft, but that is not something I applaud.
ProfessorMiao on June 8, 2009 at 10:36 AM
I hear a stampede of RINOS begging to become Elephants again.
Geochelone on June 8, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Thanks for posting that. It’s amazing these people have a legitimate party and voice in the mainstream.
How long would a mainstream Skin Head or KKK party last here? Not very.
katy on June 8, 2009 at 10:40 AM
I just had a thought; maybe the EU socialists laundered to much money overseas to The One’s campaign and they didn’t spend enough on their own elections.
reaganaut on June 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Obviously, it’s because they tried Obama’s Marxist/socialist nonsense and discovered it doesn’t work.
rplat on June 8, 2009 at 10:43 AM
The UK’s BNP is full of them. So are many other EU country’s right parties.
While LGF’s Charles Johnson has gone overboard playing guilt by association with fine and upright people, there is a nagging problem in Europe.
Personally, I’ve been telling my fellow Jews in Europe for years to pack up and come over here to Israel before it’s too late.
Shy Guy on June 8, 2009 at 10:45 AM
I’m not too impressed. The Right won by default – just as Obama did.
OldEnglish on June 8, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Well, I’ll be. Always thought Europeans were a bunch of flaming pansies.
Ryan Gandy on June 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM
What you didn’t mention Ed is that a lot of these conservative and right-wing gains were helped by strong public disenchantment with EU policies towards Muslim immigrants:
FuriousAmerican on June 8, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Palin on Hannity tonight!
jp on June 8, 2009 at 10:52 AM
That’s what I came to ask: what does “right” in Europe equate to here in the U.S., so I can know how big a deal to make/not make of all this?
splink on June 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM
This is very interesting. It seems that the socialists may have indeed hit their high-water mark in Europe, even though this particular election cycle is probably more of a punishment for the economic collapse. As Margaret Thatcher famously observed, the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people’s money. I would posit that Europe has reached that point. The Left cannot promise the people any more economic goodies and they don’t have anything else to bribe voters with.
Unfortunately, the socialists in the U.S. are just getting started. They haven’t yet run out of other people’s money. But they will.
rockmom on June 8, 2009 at 10:58 AM
FIFY
rockmom on June 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM
There is still an ember of hope glowing for Western Civilization in Europe. Let us pray it is kept alive.
chalons on June 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Congress isn’t going to crack down on anything. The GOP is almost as anxious to curry favor with the Obama Administration as the media is. Rush and Cheney and those of us that agree with them are alone. I can’t wait for the midterms. The GOP is going to get crushed again; all the faux bewilderment is going to be entertaining to see. But..but..we kissed so much a** and the media said we were visionary…how could we lose! Nobody loves a turncoat, GOP. The other side only pretends to while they need you; your own side hates your guts.
We’re doomed. All we have to look forward to is the eventual losses of the people in office that are selling us out.
austinnelly on June 8, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Now they need to start having babies again
jp on June 8, 2009 at 11:07 AM
EU Before:
Left_*______________|________________Right
EU Now:
Left___*____________|________________Right
Change!
TMK on June 8, 2009 at 11:09 AM
And breaking news – Hezbollah defeated in Lebanon.
Buy Danish on June 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Other breaking news: Violence erupts on the Gaza-Israel Border.
Smart Power!
kingsjester on June 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I have an idiot marxist friend who moved to Scotland from the USA a few years ago. He sent out a note this morning that his country(Scotland, not the USA) is being taken over by fascists. He has a debased mind…
daesleeper on June 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Economics not so much…had enough of special rights for Islam, more so…
Schadenfreude on June 8, 2009 at 11:15 AM
You have to be careful on this score — the US has an unusual (and somewhat contrary) definition of conservative and liberal, because the socialists stole the label “Liberal”, and the conservatives are trying to conserve the liberal tradition of the founding fathers. Europe uses a more standard definition (usually), with the free market types being labeled “liberal” and the nationalistic (and sometimes racist) types being “conservative”.
The terms aren’t quite reversed, though they aren’t quite orthogonal, either.
Count to 10 on June 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM
As it turns out, the birth rate for US citizens isn’t any higher than the birth rate for European countries (1.6) — its just that we have so many non-citizens giving birth that it boosts us up to maintenance level (2.1).
Count to 10 on June 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Not really Ed. In Germany and France, both countries ruled by the center-right (Merkel and Sarkozy), the ruling parties won. And they won big.
madne0 on June 8, 2009 at 11:35 AM
I hope we are witnessing the crest of the progressive wave in this country. They sure are alienating a lot of tax paying Americans SEE TEA PARTYS. Of course they want to make as many welfare recipients as they can but there are still folks who don’t want to be dependent on the state, they live in fly over country and they vote a lot.
It looks like the Governor of Oklahoma is in trouble he took the stimulus, and has tried to hitch his wagon to Obama, and the folks there are muy unhappy. The Republican running is not pro small business, another Republican who is Conservative and PRO Free Market, should run against her. The word is the Democrat Governor of Oklahoma is going down…and they are not crazy about Sotomayer’s ruling on the Second Amendment either. Way to build a The Opposition up David Axelrod….I have an idea, make another joke about a Christian beauty pageant contestant…they just think that sh!t is funny as hell in the heart land…NOT.
Dr Evil on June 8, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Most of what is considered “right” in Europe would feel right at home in the Democratic party. They’d be moderate Democrats, but democrats none the less. OK, maybe, just maybe, they’d qualify as RINO’s. ;)
madne0 on June 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Good point, though I wish they had.
Grafted on June 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Daniel Hannon (the British MP) was on Glenn Beck radio and I heard him say that we misinterpret the news coming out of Europe that they “veer right.” He said there is still about the choice between facism and socialism.
PrincipledPilgrim on June 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM
And now, having moved right, they will hopefully, enjoy prosperity, like they haven’t seen in years. While we spend the next 3 and 1/2 years, going down the toilet.
capejasmine on June 8, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Ed, you’re reading way to far into this. These are like primary elections for Europe, they tend to favor partisans and im not entirely sure success in these votes means success in the various national elections that will build government in the separate EU nations. While I understand a conservative victory was assured long before these EU elections (which are less of a referendum on ideology than you put off Ed), what is the political climate like nationally for these parties?
I mean, the Swedish Pirate Party (the one that supports internet freedom and downloading) won a seat in Sweden’s delegation…these votes arent the best indicators.
ernesto on June 8, 2009 at 11:43 AM
“Ironically, the US and EU will head in opposite directions again, and we’ll see which creates wealth and which destroys it.”
I think we have already seen enough wealth destroyed here in the US.
lexhamfox on June 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM
as a european let me suggest a correct interpretation of these results.
the right won for two reasons: 1. they moved toward the center in economic policy so that are not perceived as free-market extremist (so do not expect any reagan-type revolution). the only issue in which they might be considered pro-market is the tax issue: they are probably going to lower taxes a bit or at least not increase them as much. but as far as nanny-state goes, it is there to stay.
2. they outperform the left on two key issues in europe now: immigration and (related) security. Europe has seen multiculturalism fail; muslim immigrants are not integrating and they basically hate the european whites (a minority does so actively; the others silently or at least do not oppose it). this translates in big social costs, distrust in society, fear, crime, segregated societies, challenge to freedom of speech (try to make a joke on Mohammed). Europeans are fed-up with this. That’s why they voted conservatives and even more far-right parties.
hayek2009 on June 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM
I remember a few years ago when Canada elected so-called conservatives into power and conservatives here wet their pants over the monumental shift.
Nothing changed. Govt run health care is still awful and getting worse. There is now Sharia law in parts of the country. Gay marriage was instituted. Freedom of speech has all but been abolished when it comes to dissing Muslims(ask Mark Steyn about that one). Taxes are still insanely high.
The names and faces may change. But the long march to socialims/communism continues unabated. Same is true in Europe. And in the US unfortunately.
angryed on June 8, 2009 at 12:02 PM
There was a guest on Beck’s TV show a few days ago said the upcoming English Parliment elections are going to be a bloodbath for the liberals.
logis on June 8, 2009 at 12:06 PM
The Right in Europe might be Left of Obama, but the Left in Europe is ultimately what the nutroots crave for us.
Speedwagon82 on June 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Thanks for that, hayek. It’s much as I thought, and the reason I left England in 1972, the year that She entered the, then, Common Market. It was obvious that England was going to self-destruct, and I wanted no part of it for my kids.
I had already seen what immigration had done to England, prior to 1972, and knew that it would get worse. I hope that it’s not too late to make the required changes but, without killing off the nanny state, that can’t happen.
Unless, of course, the immigrants have an ulterior motive for moving into Europe, in which case all bets are off.
OldEnglish on June 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Hope and Change………..?
Seven Percent Solution on June 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM
As a European, I disagree. Most of the conservative parties in Europe are offically aligned with the GOP in the US. Parties like the Conservatives in the UK, CDU in Germany, ODS in Czech Republic and others are always given official visitor passes to the Republican National Convention.
I used to attend Young Conservatives conventions in Europe when I was younger. Besides representatives from the parties mentioned above, members YAF (Young America’s Foundation, more rightwing than the GOP) was attending as well and given a warm reception.
Some of the parties in Europe are actually RIGHT of the GOP. This would include Geert Wilders Freedom party in the Netherlands, the Progress Party in Norway and others.
Norwegian on June 8, 2009 at 12:21 PM
I don’t think it was just about punishing the parties in power because of the financial crisis. Many Europeans are simply fed up with the left and it’s been brewing for years.
It goes back way further than their anger and unease with the Muslim immigrant situation, too. People have for years become increasingly irritated by the sinister exercise of power of the EU, which has spread its tentacles into almost every area of life. Furthermore, most of it has happened without their consent, since the majority of EU countries signed into the Treaty without referendum. Look how left wing governments reacted when the people of Ireland were given an EU referendum and voted against it. They went into denial and vowed to continue with the Treaty regardless of the fact that it was only supposed to go ahead with 100% agreement. Euroskeptics observed this and thought: hang on, just who the hell do these bastards think they are?
They don’t want to be absorbed into a bland, soulless, sterile Europe and have their national identities airbrushed out. They’re tired of hearing years of tiresome left wing nanny state rhetoric. They’re tired of the attacks on their freedom of speech. The Brits are tired of being forced to pay for a state TV station which parrots endless left wing propaganda day in day out.
When I was a young kid at school in England in the late 70′s, it was a time of labor disputes and strikes. The caretakers (janitors) of state schools went on strike and there were no lessons for a couple of months. In the meantime, my father took some time off work and continued my education himself. When school restarted, it quickly became apparent to my teachers that I’d learned a lot during the time off. I told them my dad had been teaching me. So they brought him into school for a “meeting” at which they angrily told him, “how dare you teach your own son. That’s our job. Please refrain from teaching him any more.”
That’s the sinister socialist mentality which pervades almost every public institution in Europe and has done for the last three or four decades. In Germany, homeschoolers have been persecuted and in some cases dragged back into public schools by the state to continue their indoctrination. Homeschooling parents have been thrown into jail for the crime of teaching their own kids. What these socialist bastards are realizing now is that if you want to oppress people like this, you’d better bloody well make sure you abolish democracy first because sooner or later even the most docile populations will rise up and bite you on the ass.
Sharke on June 8, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Ditto Australia – on all points.
OldEnglish on June 8, 2009 at 12:27 PM
blowback
unseen on June 8, 2009 at 12:33 PM
didn’t europe veer right and america veer left in the 30′s, too?
homesickamerican on June 8, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Unless they start mass deportations of their unassimilated muslem immigrants, anything the Europeans do is merely rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
It’s simple demographics.
Rebar on June 8, 2009 at 12:43 PM
The Eu election results are a mixed bag. I don’t think anyone should be calling results which put parties like the BNP in Parliament progress. The turnout for the elections was lowest ever… people generally didn’t care about this election.
Norwegian on June 8, 2009 at 12:21 PM
I think you are right about the relationship between the European Right and the GOP but only up to end of Bush Snr’s Presidency. I know many Tory MP’s who were dismayed by what they saw at the GOP convention in 2003 and thought the link between the two parties needed to be reviewed.
Much more interesting and more important are the results soon to confirmed in Lebanon where it seems there is some meaningful change on the ground. There wasn’t much warning of this but it looks like a big result for the good guys.
lexhamfox on June 8, 2009 at 12:46 PM
This isn’t entirely true. For instance the British “Liberal Democrats” could hardly be described as the party of the free market. They’re social liberals, definitely left of center – which means they oppose state intervention in personal affairs. But like the left in general, their support of individual rights is pretty much limited to the areas of personal life favored by the left, i.e. sexual and personal matters etc – and does not stretch to other equally important areas of life such as economics and finance. The British Liberal Democrats, for instance, are big supporters of the welfare state and business-destroying green issues. They’re also extremely pro-EU. Hardly libertarians.
I also disagree with you about the European use of the word “conservative.” If it’s associated primarily with racist nationalist types then that’s really the doing of the left wing media in Europe – for instance the BBC loves to attach the words “conservative” and “right wing” to everything from the Taliban to the Iranian government, but are much more discerning when they use the terms “liberal” or “left wing,” being careful not to associate them with anything extreme or unpalatable.
The left will of course continue to smear conservatives as racists any chance they get. If you took that privilege away from them they wouldn’t have much of a reason to get out of bed in the morning.
Sharke on June 8, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Long paralyzed, neutralized or marginalized by the Left as “Nazis” or “racists” for any resistance to the socializing and Islamizing movements of past decades, the “indigenous population” in the Netherlands now has a leader, a party, and a platform. There is nothing “Nazi” or “racist” about any of it. And I’m thinking Wilders was correct when he told his supporters this week: “This is just the beginning. We’re going to get a lot bigger.”
MB4 on June 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Last week Stu Varney predicted on Fox News that THIS WEEK the UK Parliament would have a vote of “no confidence” in the government led by PM Gordon Brown, largely for emptying the national treasury.. and, that the U.S. Congress would take note of the event and begin to rein in the excessive spending. We can only hope!
LindaDinNev on June 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM
While it’s good to see 117 more center-right members than Socialists in the European Parliament, the article doesn’t say who are the other 301 members, which account for 41% of the seats. You can’t govern with 37.5% of the seats, so a coalition will have to be formed with members of other parties. Are they further right than the EPP, or centrists, who might be tempted to align themselves with Socialists?
Another problem with this result is that the European Parliament has very little power in the European Union, which is mostly concentrated in the European Commission (whose members are appointed for 10-year terms by the heads of state of the member nations), who have hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats at their service. This is a result of the European Constitution, which has been rejected several times by referendum, but rammed down the throats of other countries by parliametary vote.
The European Parliament is not really a legislative body, although it does have veto power over “rules” proposed by the Commission, which has become a bureaucratic oligarchy. In order for real conservative change to come to Europe, the member nations need to elect conservative leaders, who can eventually change out Commission members when their terms expire.
Which could happen, since France, Germany, and Italy are now led by conservatives, and Britain could swing right soon. Still, it’s a good sign. Maybe we need to tell the Europeans “Merci Beaucoup”, even though Obama might not thank them!
Steve Z on June 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM
LindaDinNev on June 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM
I’m watching for that as well. I am at a loss to know what it all means however.
I almost wish we could divide into such small parties in the US. That way you could pick the couple of issues that matter the most to you and join forces with others and not have to support issues you really don’t support.
It might be more focused politics… tackling one issue at a time instead of the big lumbering political parties holding so much power and accomplishing so little. Or rather so much that is useless and wasteful.
But then I guess they haven’t really gotten a better deal over there have they… nice in theory but in practice democracy is just plain messy however it is done.
petunia on June 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
An excellent point. There are many members of the European Parliament who are “Euroskeptics”, meaning that they oppose the government to which they belong, for trying to usurp too much power from the member states. They are similar to “states’ rights” advocates in the U.S., which is not necessarily bad.
The problem comes up, what are the political leanings of the Euroskeptics? There are people against the European Untion both on the right (for usurpation of sovereignty) and on the left (for limiting the power of unions, or imposing regulations on farmers), and during the recent referendum on the European Constitution in France, four of the five major political parties in France (Communist, Socialist, Union for the Center, and Union for a Popular Majority (center-right, Sarkozy’s party) were split between Yes and No–only the far-right (some say racist) Front National voted massively No.
Euroskeptics might be united in saying the Commission is too powerful and the European Union is too undemocratic, but do they want the EU to veer left or right?
Steve Z on June 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM
That could come true, Ed, that is, if, some bloggers would call a spade a spade, and tell the truth, instead of butt kissing as many Obama moves/speeches as a “conservative” can “get away with”…..!!
Have you ever thought, Ed, that maybe the lackluster conservatives like you, could be almost single-handedly responsible for the slouch towards socialism, simply, because it is the small increment that could/would tip the scale towards true reform?
Mcguyver on June 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM
The little incremental difference that is needed to shift it sufficiently enough, in order to swing it decidedly into the RIGHT direction, could be answered in: Are the people getting the truth delivered to them?
Mcguyver on June 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM
I see one of two other explanations:
1. Now that Obama is in power in the USA, they left is feeling like they have “won” and merely sat home. Typically, conservatives are more consistent voters; the Left only makes a strong showing when they feel it really matters. Because of this, you could see a misleading lurch to the right.
2. Second, with Obama’s election, it could be dawning on them that the USA will no longer protect or lead them. They’ll have to start footing more of their own bills and taking responsibility for more of their own economic growth because the USA will be faltering along with them and they can no longer ride our economic or military coat-tails. In other words, responsibility…
I’d just caution that it’s difficult to extrapolate from a single datapoint. This is certainly good news, however.
PersonalLiberty on June 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Europe is very tribal in its political structures. This is due to both European cultures, along with their use of party-oriented Democracy (as opposed to our individual-based Constitutional Republic). Because of this, there are really not many individualists in Europe and the differences between right and left tend to reflect, in general, different attitudes towards the proper collective. The left likes the whole Euro system while the right tends to be more nationalistic. In the context of today, more nationalist European feelings are better – for them and for us. But, in terms of economic policies, the differences are generally slight, as individualism has no real place in any European political system.
progressoverpeace on June 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM
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No.
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While the USofA did veer left in the 30′s, Europe went hard left. In Germany bringing the National Socialist German Workers’ Party to power. Fascism whether black, red, or green is very far to the left.
darktood on June 8, 2009 at 3:37 PM
you’re right. my bad.
homesickamerican on June 8, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Oh, I just don’t understand the multi-party system.
Tzetzes on June 8, 2009 at 10:53 PM