Mark Levin audio: Tearful military wife rips Obama’s Cairo speech
posted at 3:55 pm on June 5, 2009 by Allahpundit
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The boss digs it but I’m ambivalent, just like I was about that “Dear Mr. Obama” video last year that everyone else flipped for. It’s a hawk’s version of the left’s Absolute Moral Authority fallacy, where validity is ascribed to some sympathetic victim’s stance on policy simply because they’re a victim. (The ultimate example: Cindy Sheehan.) How many lefty military wives were relieved yesterday to have The One try to dial down tensions with Muslims, thinking it might spare their husbands an attack by jihadis that otherwise would have taken place? Also, in fairness, The One didn’t “apologize” for the war. He said it was a war of choice, that opinions differed, that it reminds us of the value of diplomacy, but that he’s glad Saddam’s gone and that we owe it to Iraq to help them rebuild. In a speech with multiple lame passages, that was hardly the lamest.
Even so, note this question: “So if [my husband] goes out there, does he die in vain?” Answer, according to Obama’s logic: Yes. I devoted an entire post to that idea during the campaign, and then a follow-up a few weeks later. He explicitly said, in the very last line of his famous 2002 anti-war speech, “Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.” Fast forward six years, after he became the Democratic nominee, and suddenly he’d decided that no soldier who follows the orders of his commander-in-chief — like, say, George W. Bush — ever dies in vain. The two concepts are irreconcilable; the only way to explain the change is the fact that The One was himself vying to be C-in-C and knew that voters wouldn’t trust him if he went around telling grieving families that their sons had died for nothing. That should have been an early warning to the anti-war crowd that he was willing to sell them out for political advantage. Mission accomplished, no pun intended.
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Yeah, I got to agree with AP in the end… Nonetheless, it’s still very sad.
Upstater85 on June 5, 2009 at 4:01 PM
When I heard Obama call the Iraq war a war of “choice” I felt like this woman did. A dear friend of mine lost her son, their only child ,to an IED in 2006. All I could think about was how she was feeling. Shame on Obama.
sandee on June 5, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Why are you interested in fairness towards Obama? Is it difficult to decide whether he is good or bad, and should be opposed or not?
Sounds like more catch and release to me.
JiangxiDad on June 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Let’s stop attempting to make this complicated . . . Obama will say and do anything to increase his power and his self perceived image. He’s a charlatan and a liar so everyone should stop trying to find some deep philosophical reason for his disgusting behavior.
rplat on June 5, 2009 at 4:05 PM
This is a two way that can’t be rectified.
You have those whom ARE going out in harms way for a president who doesn’t care about anyone but himself.
GWB at least gave a iota!
B.H.O. is nothing but kissing butt to those whom don’t need to be kissed.
You can’t apologize for something you didn’t start… BUT… you can do everything in your power to make it easier to win. And B.H.O. has yet to do that…. for anyone in this country!
upinak on June 5, 2009 at 4:06 PM
poor woman…. your heart breaks for her. Sadly the commander in chief is a DUNCE
ousoonerfan15 on June 5, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Marl Levin would make a better president than Obama,
Levin/Limbaugh 2012
My brother in law will be a Lt.Col in the Army soon.
He wants CHANGE also…..
izoneguy on June 5, 2009 at 4:08 PM
I couldn’t agree with you more!
capejasmine on June 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Allah, I hate to play this card, but I feel I must:
You’ve never been married, have you?
Jim-Rose on June 5, 2009 at 4:10 PM
I’m guessing our Forefathers would be crying with her.
Conservative_SAHM on June 5, 2009 at 4:11 PM
What ever happened to Barry pulling all our combat troops out of Iraq in 16 months?
Chuck Schick on June 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
mike_NC9 on June 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Allahpundit, I think this veteran and military wife is experiencing a generalized demoralization, with Obama’s latest speech simply serving as a trigger. I imagine that demoralization by and anger at the president is effecting many members of our armed forces and those who love them. Obama’s response to the assassination of Private William Long in Little Rock must be particularly difficult to bear.
All the more reason for us to demonstrate our support for those willing to risk their lives for our safety and liberty.
Loxodonta on June 5, 2009 at 4:14 PM
None died in vain.
rob verdi on June 5, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Actually AP, Obama basically said the Iraq war was wrong and we shouldn’t have done it.
Sure he didn’t “apologize” for it. But he made darn sure that we were *wrong* for doing it.
So I agree with this woman’s assessment.
Why are we still there if it’s such a bad thing we did?
Skywise on June 5, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Virtually ANYONE with an inkling of conscience, morals, ethics and reason (i.e. your everyday devoted conservative) would make a better president. How I loathe “King Hussein.”
J.J. Sefton on June 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM
+1
ernesto on June 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Agreed. Life isn’t long enough for this BS to take up decades.
JiangxiDad on June 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Only if you believe that a flowery speech, denouncing your own country, will change anything that these nutcups do.
I’m sure the they also believe everything else president asshat says.
HornetSting on June 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM
I’m with AP on this one: it’s an appeal to emotion. Common logical fallacy – no relevance to the argument whatsoever.
As to whether they die in vain, no soldier dies in vain when he follows orders and goes into harm’s way. Even if the orders are idiotic and pointless, the man dies doing his duty. You can’t ask for too many better ways to go down than that. See “Charge of the Light Brigade” or the final bayonet charge of the Winnipeg Grenadiers for examples.
Gaunilon on June 5, 2009 at 4:21 PM
“Choice” means death to Obama and his minions.
Iraq was a military victory, and the men and women that made it so are heroes. Obama never disappoints when it comes to providing action in the absolute opposite direction of what is necessary to keep this land free.
The Democratic party did everything possible to lose the war in Iraq, and failed thanks to the greatest military on the planet.
Hening on June 5, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Always there ready to show that the right has no moral superiority over the left. Nobody is better or worse, nobody is wrong or right, both sides have legitimate point of view. Same could be said for a marriage that just isn’t going to work. As mike_NC9 says, this is getting old. It’s time for a divorce. There are sooo many people who agree with you, and sooo many that agree with me. Why in the world would we continue to devote more time to arguing or debating? Life is too short.
JiangxiDad on June 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Hey Allah, do you support anyone or any issue that right wingers tout anymore? Just asking. This is one of the hundreds of times that you don’t agree with “the boss” really, nothing new there.
The funny thing is this site is supported largely by right wingers, in fact VERY conservative people. Does it bother you that your livelihood depends on the patronage of people you openly disdain? Why don’t you try to start a moderate equivalent of Hot Air and see how far you get? You, Meghan McCain and Frum and all of the other beta male wimps could really set the world on fire heh?
echosyst on June 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM
“But if the cause be not good, the King himself hath a heavy
reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopp’d off in a battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all, “We died at such a place”; some swearing, some crying for a surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left. I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they charitably dispose of anything, when blood is their argument?
Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter
for the King that led them to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection.”
Seven Percent Solution on June 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM
ALL wars are wars of choice.
You can always surrender.
Thune on June 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM
The was the hardest 1 min 25 seconds I have ever listened to. I know how she feels and it sucks. Heather, you and your family are in my prayers.
milwife88 on June 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM
This was simply the last straw for her. I really hope it doesn’t take many more much longer to accept their mistake.
califdreamnred on June 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM
There might also be that lack of appreciation for the differences between women and men that might be coming into play here.
Regardless of the sex of the speaker, sometimes it’s best not to listen to or respond to the definitions of the words being spoken, but to the emotions being expressed. This was a woman in need of comfort and support, not an explanation of what the president actually said.
Furthermore, the emotions she is expressing are entirely reasonable. My heart goes out to her.
Mark Levin heard her emotions and responded to them. This is how it is done, Allahpundit.
Loxodonta on June 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Obama doesn’t give a damn about the military. All is about political expediency. Anything to make himself look good.
He wanted the troops on private health insurance, and the only cuts he made budget-wise is the military. Obama is a dangerous dunce.
jencab on June 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM
None of the smart ones, who know appeasement only leads to more bloodshed.
Jim Treacher on June 5, 2009 at 4:25 PM
I feel very bad for this mother as well, and my family members were at risk in Iraq, but I don’t think that ends the debate, like AP said. Does everyone on this blog think that every day we spent in Vietnam was completely justified? We could say that they were all necessary if it would to make victims’ families feel better but a lot of veterans of that war would say otherwise. Would we rather tell these veterans that they are wrong?
Greef on June 5, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Listening to this woman was really heartbreaking. She wasn’t acting like a victim. She was just trying to make sense of a President who seems to have little regard for those who serve under him. Yes she was emotional, but she seemed to need some verification that her husband wasn’t putting his life on the line in vain. God bless her and all the others who serve and their families.
sandee on June 5, 2009 at 4:28 PM
It’s one thing for the party NOT in power to say they’re doing the wrong thing.
It’s another thing for a President to say they were doing the wrong thing AFTER they’re out.
It’s a completely different thing for the Commander in Chief to say that his troops fighting for him in Iraq are doing the wrong thing.
Skywise on June 5, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Brilliant, AP.
Your take is spot on.
blink on June 5, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Freedom isn’t free!!!
Hussein knows nothing about honor, pride and our American values, he’s proven this point on more then one occasion.
christene on June 5, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Allah — are you phucking kidding me? A war of choice? Perhaps, but “choice” as in ridding the world of a murderous state sponsor of terror or not… but it would seem by the tenor of your statement that the choice to go to war in Iraq automatically makes it wrong, at worst, or questionable, at best.
I guess choice is only good for Obama when it involves piercing a baby’s skull and ripping it out of the birth canal.
The value of diplomacy? Yeah — that worked really well with Iraq; it’s going swimmingly with Iran and North Korea couldn’t be any more well-behaved.
I can’t believe you’re giving this a$$hole another pass, and on matters of national security, of all things. Wake up and grow a pair of balls…
D2Boston on June 5, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Bending over and grabbing your ankles toward the Muslim world is not an option.
Attacking your allies while praising your enemies is not an option.
Just like voting present is not an option.
Biggest failure evah, Hussein Obama.
HornetSting on June 5, 2009 at 4:35 PM
1, 2, 3, what are we fighting for?
Our troops have just been slammed
Barack thinks it’s Vietnam.
5, 6, 7, set him straight, “Bill” Gates,
Well I don’t know whether to laugh or cry,
Whoopie! Our morale just died.
jgapinoy on June 5, 2009 at 4:35 PM
I was quoting a seperation agreement that’s going around the blogosphere. It really nails it.
mike_NC9 on June 5, 2009 at 4:35 PM
I hope Obama fails.
JellyToast on June 5, 2009 at 4:36 PM
AP, I didn’t hear Levin or this woman referring to themselves as victims. Perhaps I missed something? I guess that makes your analysis complete nonsense as usual. In addition, sometimes there are REAL reasons people are upset. We all know that Obama did not and does not support the Iraq war.
He basically refers to it as a mistake that he has to clean up from the Bush years, almost an annoyance that distracts him from doing what he really wants, which is turn this nation into something that is unrecognizable to the soldiers that are fighting for it.
Would I be happy to send my son into a conflict where the commander-in-chief had that attitude? Absolutely not. You should jam you flawed logic up your butt.
echosyst on June 5, 2009 at 4:36 PM
I also agree. Thanks
mike_NC9 on June 5, 2009 at 4:36 PM
^This
I want to vomit when I hear people say things like “that was a good speech” or “I’m glad he was tough on so-and-so.” This is the same guy who is throwing away trillions of dollars and then says, “our debt is impossible to sustain.”
It may be worthwhile to slam him for the things he says wrong, because they harm our country. But you can NEVER trust anything he says right.
Nothing he says has substance. He’s a liar. It’s his native language.
Daggett on June 5, 2009 at 4:36 PM
+1000. Very nice!
HornetSting on June 5, 2009 at 4:37 PM
“So if [my husband] goes out there, does he die in vain?”
Good point you make clear on Obama’s record.
You should answer that yourself. It seems like a good argument to make except that it doesn’t sound realistic. I’m not sure there are many who fit that characterization. I agree with Jim Treacher, that regardless of political ideology in the military, wives know from their military community experience (if not their own experience) that appeasement only leads to worse circumstances.
You seem to omit that His Own demotes Bush’s decisions into the irretrievably wrong category, while subsequently pursuing the same. So far as Obama is concerned, His Own can not be wrong, even if he imitates or follows the example that he claims to be wrong. On His Own, Obama is wrong for America more often than not.
maverick muse on June 5, 2009 at 4:39 PM
I don’t consider myself a member of “the left”, and having pointed out that a similar (and false) argument has been implemented in a “right wing” context shouldn’t make me diametrically opposed to you or conservatism. And besides, when it comes down to it i find myself disagreeing with those on “the right” less than with those on “the left”. I just don’t instinctively look for the orthodox conservative context or perspective. This is tantamount to being a card carrying leftist, worthy of banishment to an arch-liberal america?
ernesto on June 5, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Big +1
Rovin on June 5, 2009 at 4:42 PM
As President of the United States, it is the Commander In Chief’s duty to support our military morale.
Obama failed with no excuse or rationale for why or what isn’t relevant.
maverick muse on June 5, 2009 at 4:44 PM
He said the war was a poor choice, was basically unnecessary. That’s debatable, but what’s not is his statement’s effect on troop (and family) morale, not to mention lending aid and comfort to the enemy who is still shooting at US soldiers and Marines.
Akzed on June 5, 2009 at 4:46 PM
None died in vain.
Rob Verdi
So long as we persevere to uphold the Constitution and honor their sacrifice.
maverick muse on June 5, 2009 at 4:50 PM
You know, this is almost over the line, Allah. Your pink panties are showing. Sheesh, you are in charge of a conservative blog. If we can’t tell the truth here, where can we tell the truth?
We have baghdad bob media telling us everything is great with the economy, while almost half a million people are losing their jobs, but it is good news, because the powers that be said it would be around half a million.
We have illegal aliens that are getting medical care for free, while many AMERICAN CITIZENS are not able to obtain medical insurance because they are small business owners or they are already sick and cannot be underwritten. They don’t want socialized healthcare, they just want to be helped, while we are paying for lawbreakers to get medical care.
We are told that we are bad for trying to give people freedom and deposing dictators and our military is defiled by the democrats.
And day in and day out, the baghdad bob media tells us this is just fine and we should just shut up because we are a bunch of warmongering, racist, bigoted shills for the Bush administration.
I’m tired of taking the sniping from you too. Yes, I know, I can find another place to blog if I don’t like it. But, that is fine, you can keep snarking, but eventually, you won’t have anyone but the trolls to snark at.
There, rant off.
HornetSting on June 5, 2009 at 4:50 PM
ALL wars are wars of choice.
You can always surrender.
Thune on June 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Thank God Churchill wasn’t like that.
Thank God Bush wasn’t like that.
maverick muse on June 5, 2009 at 4:51 PM
There’s nothing “fair” about that idiotic assessment. He did far worse than apologize for it. Far, far worse.
Which means that it was just someone’s whim to go kill Iraqis. This is so much worse than apologizing that it is hard to believe you are having problems understanding it. He said, essentially, that a few nasty people just decided to beat up on Iraq, … because they are nasty people. That’s what this “war of choice” means. Nothing to do with national security, but for someone’s fun and thrills. This is a despicable description, but not surprising coming from the Traitor-in-Chief and Head Anti-American of planet Earth. Keep apologizing for the moron, Allah. It looks good on you.
Not much. Look at the votes and all the dems who were “for the war before they were against it”.
How so? You sound like a mouthpiece for the idiot messiah.
Wow. Really. All the left’s glad that Saddam’s gone, because they were too scared to open their seditious mouths from 9/11 until Saddam was yanked out of that spider hole. When Saddam was finally finished, the left felt safe enough, again, to start in with their treasonous rhetoric and politicization of our security … finally culminating in the election of this fraud you are defending.
We don’t owe Iraq jacksh!t. They owe us for making such a threat of themselves that we had to go to war to take care of it. But, you wouldn’t understand that.
That is very true, but this was still lamer than anything else an American CiC has said on foreign soil, especially on enemy territory.
You are really disappointing, allah. But I can now understand your fascination with MegaMac.
progressoverpeace on June 5, 2009 at 4:52 PM
If they truly think that a speech by Obama will stop jihadis, then, er, they’re extremely naive at best.
SouthernGent on June 5, 2009 at 4:53 PM
I agree it was a war of choice. Saddam’s choice. We drew a line in the sand and he crossed it 17 times. It was his choice to go to war. Not W’s.
JAM on June 5, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Memo to MilWives, vets and family memebers of Armed Services personnel: BHO doesn’t like America. He’s only a Commander-In-Chief by title.
CICINO
American’s elected an ass.
bluelightbrigade on June 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Victims?
If anyone noticed, the lady said she is a veteran herself, and this was a spontaneous call in.
This was a pure moment, not some calculated campaign ad or something.
The lady is reflecting the VAST MAJORITY of military families bewilderment with the Janus-like twofaced public statements about their loved ones from their C-in-C, and their service.
When he speaks to them, it’s all respectful, then the next day he goes and tells the world it’s all a mistake.
It is disheartening, and I feel for her.
Don’t diminish this woman’s obvious sincerity by attributing her emotional reaction to some liberal-like play for sympathy.
It’s clearly nothing like that.
You are better than that, Allah. Really.
Brian1972 on June 5, 2009 at 5:05 PM
My husband retired from the Air Force as an officer just after Clinton was elected to his second term. (That was the impetus for the retirement, among other things.) Prior to that retirement, we spent many a holiday separated from each other while he was deployed on temporary duty somewhere only he and God truly knew. During those 18 years of service I think we only had 4 anniversary celebrations together. He was home for the birth of our child but he missed her concerts, school plays, learning to walk–that kind of thing. He missed some things in which I involved myself as well. And none of us complained–much. We tended to be jealous of each other’s time, but no REAL stress regarding deployments. I had been a police officer at one time in my life so I understood devotion, service, and I believe that this nation–our freedoms–are worth fighting for. Even our child, who missed dad when he was gone but wanted to follow him into the Air Force, understood the need and the desire to serve. Obama, PutzOfTheUnitedStates, changed all of that for us.
When his election was announced, I cried for days. I wondered if indeed my husband’s service, our sacrifices of family time, all the moves, the inconveniences that only people who have lived that life can understand, were in vain. I didn’t see a commander-in-chief coming into office. I saw someone who was going to play fast and loose with our military, with his power, with our freedoms. I saw someone who was coming into office to play. I grieved for those who went before, who shed blood for the defense of the Constitution because, it’s not just the Iraq/Afghanistan War dead that might have died in vain, but ANYONE from any war in the past who stood in the gap and paid the price for the freedom of the mewling masses here at home. I also grieved because I saw a dream, that of my child’s path to service, die.
I’ve wrestled with the same questions this young woman is wrestling with now. Was it all for nothing? My answer for myself and for her is, finally, “no.” All of them took an oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States-the same one that PutzOTUS swore on 20 January. They worked, and still work, daily to assure the rights, priveleges, and freedoms associated with being citizens of this country, regardless of what idiot was in office. If that is this young woman’s husband’s motivation for being in the military, then whatever hardships come (if any) his service, her sacrifice, will not be in vain. His desire is honorable. The responsibility as to whether or not the actions in Iraq/Afghanistan could be considered vain rests on the whimpy shoulders of our impotent PutzOTUS. Whether or not HIS “service” is in vain is the better question.
God (Yahweh, Not Allah, PutzOTUS!) Bless our Troops, Police, and Fire. God (Yahweh, not Allah, PutzOTUS!)Bless Israel. God–the one true God Yahweh–Bless the United States. For all of you military spouses out there, God Bless you as well. My heart and soul cries out on your behalf.
Driefromseattle on June 5, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Not publicly anyways. I’ll betcha behind closed doors, Obama had many pants down around his ankles moments.
As far as the Sheehan comparison, both sons volunteered. One had the support of his C.O.C.
Next week, no one will know this woman. Sheehan is still in the news protesting at Bush’s house in Dallas.
I really FU#&ing hate the media, or what passed for it, in this country.
BigWyo on June 5, 2009 at 5:07 PM
+1000
ladyingray on June 5, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Relax everyone
blatantblue on June 5, 2009 at 5:10 PM
You crack me up, I wish I had a tenth of your moxie. You will never leave HotAir because you love us (the commenters) more than Allah annoys you.
Cindy Munford on June 5, 2009 at 5:10 PM
If the C in C doesn’t support the mission then why the hell do we have our troops in there? He want’s to keep them there and criticize the war at the same time?
ronsfi on June 5, 2009 at 5:12 PM
progressoverpeace on June 5, 2009 at 4:52 PM
To which I would add, we owe it to ourselves to preserve alliance so long as possible with the logical Iraqi people with whom our military has sacrificed to establish alliance.
Islam is bent to destroy the West. The strategic location of Iraq is paramount to keeping the Islamofascists from owning the entire swath of Islam from Africa through the MidEast; Saudi Arabia, Syria through Iraq and Iran, into Afghanistan and Pakistan and then up through the north and into former USSR satellites and into China and then to the south threatening India, Indonesia and Australia.
Our alliance with Israel is not our only concern. India and Australia are vital as well.
Russia and China are already positioned with their Muslim alliances or puppets.
America needs rational Muslim alliances. JFK sold out Turkey and Eastern Europe to the USSR to cover his naive and inept self inflicted Cuban crisis, depriving us our ability to ally with Turkey’s global identity for half a century and absolutely removing US diplomatic presence from the Islamic Middle East.
A strong and independent Iraq would be a strong beneficial alliance for our diplomatic relations with Egypt and Jordan to preserve regional peace, which in turn could be of assistance to Israel if only by remaining indifferent rather than taking part in the coming Islamic onslaught against Israel and the West.
maverick muse on June 5, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Most days, it’s the only reason I stay. You can’t leave your conservative family, Cindy.
HornetSting on June 5, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Obama: If the shoe fits, wear it.
His Own is worse than the vane Imelda Romualdez Marcos with all her shoes.
maverick muse on June 5, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Driefromseattle on June 5, 2009 at 5:06 PM
amen
maverick muse on June 5, 2009 at 5:19 PM
She better not leave. I don’t thing Moxie has enough of a bite to it. HornetSting is one of those really scary women. Almost as scary as your kind.
You know. The quiet frown of disappointment. The disapproving look with the eyes. No pudding tonight. Really, really scary!
Loxodonta on June 5, 2009 at 5:20 PM
thing = think
Loxodonta on June 5, 2009 at 5:21 PM
I hope never to leave. I am convinced that the smartest (and funniest) people in the country are right here at HA and it scares me to think of the people that are in D.C. “running” the U.S.
Cindy Munford on June 5, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Very well said, mm (if not well-quoted :) ). I agree with what you’ve said, except that I am not as optimistic about Iraqi prospects as you are, though the advantages of a decent, civilized Iraq on our side would be immense. Supporting your thesis, we already saw some of these benefits back during the Lebanon War, when Iraq was a non-player (as opposed to the terrible influence it would have been otherwise) and how it helped make that conflict that much simpler, cleaner, and safer (even if Olmert did manage to screw it up, anyway).
Bush would have had a much better chance turning out a decent Iraq, but the idiot messiah is going to insure the defeat of our interests there.
progressoverpeace on June 5, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Lucky for me that doesn’t translate well in the written word. I can lower the temperature in a room if need be.
Cindy Munford on June 5, 2009 at 5:24 PM
For years I thought Al Gore was the biggest liar in the U.S. Obama says what he thinks and everyone in America seems suprised that he does just what he said.
obama will make the rich poorer and the poor totally dependent on the federal government. obama’s agenda is to make the U.S. a third rate nation !!!
TomLawler on June 5, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Really.
The difference is that this wife speaks FOR her husband and the liberal douches take it upon themselves to speak for him without permission.
csdeven on June 5, 2009 at 5:26 PM
I won’t leave, unless Allah decides to ban me. I love the people here. It truly is a very smart, informative blog and if our own ‘dear leader’ Allah cannot see that, well, he’s as blind as dear leader of the WH.
Oh, and Lox, I’m so darn scary I have my own fleet of ‘black helicopters’. :)
HornetSting on June 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM
I have two serving, and I get physically ill at the thought of ChimpyO as CinC. The guy is a despicable person and politician. They fortunately, simply do the job they have been trained to do.
csdeven on June 5, 2009 at 5:33 PM
When you take into account the full context of all the TOTUS speeches – including the ones he did before the campaign, during the campaign, and including the European Apology Tour and now this …
He very damn well has apologized for the war.
HondaV65 on June 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM
In order to survive women, all one has to do is have the ability to make them melt with a look or the sound of one’s voice, and quiver with just the right touch. I’d go further and discuss what’s needed to knock them out for the night, but that would be revealing too much.
However, it does seem that certain bloggers could use some training.
Loxodonta on June 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM
I’d say diplomacy was valued and tried 17 times. Nothing like ignoring the facts of the run up to the war.
JAM on June 5, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Wow, this recording is heartbreaking. We all need to pray for our Country, and those serving it, here and abroad, as well as their families. I never dreamed that the citizens of the United States would get so stupid as to elect someone like Obama.
Last summer, my brother-in-law, (a good Republican), predicted that Obama would get elected, and almost ruin our Country, but serve only one term. Then, that the Democrats would not win a national election again for a long, long time. Stan, you were right about the first part, I hope the second part also comes true.
Susanboo on June 5, 2009 at 5:46 PM
AP is always whining about being a beta male when actually he is a P-Male — Putz Male.
Blake on June 5, 2009 at 5:47 PM
All wars are wars of choice.
All wars.
It is mendacious for Obama to suggest that we had no “choice” about going into Afghanistan. Of course we did. Indeed, from a long-term strategic perspective, the Taliban were less important state sponsors of Al Qaeda than Saddam was. Regime-changing them was a measure with short-term benefits — as we are seeing right before us in 2009 — and was morally satisfying, but had nothing like the long-term impact we can expect if we stay the course in Iraq.
If Obama doesn’t get a clue, it will be in Afghanistan that US servicemen may die in vain, as time goes by. I hope that doesn’t become the case, but the forces are shaping up to bring it about. I don’t see any prospect of Obama ensuring against this outcome with either strategic insight or moral determination about the situation there.
But of course, Obama has announced the day we will stop fighting in Iraq, so there’s a lot to be wary of there, too, in the coming months.
J.E. Dyer on June 5, 2009 at 5:51 PM
War of Choice implies that it didn’t serve the Nations national interest, hence they died in vain.
Sorry Allah you’re wrong, I respect your opinion but the difference between this woman and Sheehan is Sheehan took her sons death and used it as a political hammer to go after Bush, for her personal hatred for him.
Just like I always there was a difference between 9/11 widows with personal thoughts and the the Jersey girls.
broker1 on June 5, 2009 at 5:51 PM
It is a demonstration of great individual character that the overwhelming majority of the members of our armed forces focus on their duty to our country, instead of getting caught up in the politics of the moment.
Three words: Private William Long.
May he be looking down on his mother from heaven, comforting her. She was waiting for him in the parking lot of the Little Rock Recruitment Center when he was assassinated by that American jihadi.
Obama’s response to the “man caused disaster” in Arkansas was so tepid, it makes me very angry.
Every day, whether I acknowledge them here or not, I pray for and thank those serving our country in the military. Bless your two.
Loxodonta on June 5, 2009 at 5:53 PM
I think by now it’s dawning on most military members and their families that the CinC bizarrely stands with the Islamic world against the U.S.
I mean, we all sort of knew that for a while, but this last speech made it extremely clear: If the Islamic world wants to be the dominant world order then they need to chill out just a bit and follow Obama’s leadership.
econavenger on June 5, 2009 at 5:58 PM
I haven’t noticed them buzzing around here yet, so I’m still safe.
Loxodonta on June 5, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Anyone wonder why Obama didn’t mention “War of Choice” today while he was in Germany? He does know that WWII in Europe was a “War of Choice” doesn’t he?
Bicyea on June 5, 2009 at 6:00 PM
You’re not an enemy. :)
HornetSting on June 5, 2009 at 6:02 PM
I would hope ChimpyO has sent a private message to the family, but since the Queen of England only got an iPod, I wouldn’t bet on it.
It’s up to us, as you duly noted, to make sure this family knows how much we appreciate their heroic son.
Thank you.
csdeven on June 5, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I tend to think hornetsting is more bark than bite
More buzz than sting.
blatantblue on June 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Allah – Got a seat on the RNC?? Mealy-mouthed rationalizations of Obama’s pander-a-thon fits right in with the RNC’s failure to call out this man, his policies and his continued sell-out of American values.
MCPO Airdale on June 5, 2009 at 6:07 PM
The current commander in chief should be in Gitmo, with his friends.
HornetSting on June 5, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Especially when part of the speech was about restoring funding of Islamic (terror) “charities” that we cracked down on after 9/11.
econavenger on June 5, 2009 at 6:07 PM
“The One didn’t “apologize” for the war”
That’s the only thing that he didn’t apologize for.
“War of Choice”
That’s supposed to mean that Bush chose to go to war. He forgot to mention that the entire U.S. Congress approved it including Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Kennedy, Murtha and most of the left wing hypocrites.
He should have been asking for an apology from the Muslims for the death of 3,000 of our people and their dancing in the streets afterwards.
God help us!
orlandocajun on June 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM
And in that context, he damn well was apologzing for the war, if not explicitly so
xblade on June 5, 2009 at 6:09 PM
You’re just mad because I won’t friend you on FB.
I always tell a certain commie troll named dakine that he is just afraid of strong, opioninated women that can shoot a gun. Strong women make dakine’s onions shrink.
I don’t believe this problem applies to you, sugarbuns.
:)
HornetSting on June 5, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Another case of moral equivalence. Oh well, there’s still time. No better place than HA for Allah to be contaminated by conservative values. Sheehan laid on her son’s grave for a photo-op; that’s what happens when the asylums are closed.
Feedie on June 5, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Actually he isn’t. Sadly. His comparison of this woman to liberal grievance mongers is the work of a delusional moron. He is quite a dim bulb indeed.
echosyst on June 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM
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Loxodonta on June 5, 2009 at 6:24 PM
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