Quotes of the day
posted at 10:37 pm on June 4, 2009 by Allahpundit
“Instead, they’re wooing The New York Times as assiduously as Pierre Salinger did on behalf of John Kennedy in 1962. And, perhaps not surprisingly, The New York Times woos back—rewarding the president with a lavishness of coverage not seen since, well, J.F.K. in 1962. It’s an establishment lovefest.
It’s some perfect re-creation of a relationship between president and news media that has not been seen since the White House pressroom was a clubby place with reporters invited into the press secretary’s office for whiskey and cigars. It’s cozy. Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod, who would have been, in previous administrations, the highest and most exclusive White House sources, have become almost casual quotes for the Times.
It is, curiously, a return to a time when the press was so much more dependent on the goodwill, and susceptible to the care and feeding, of the president. Indeed, The New York Times, and the rest of the established press, needs Barack Obama a lot more than he needs them…
They have been handed a most remarkable historical moment—in which they get to remake the media in their own image. They have the power and they are the subject. These people in this White House are in greater control of the media than any administration before them.”
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“To me, the greatest threat to America is not necessarily a recession or even another terrorist attack. The greatest threat to America is a liberal media bias.”
Blowback
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Its about dam time,stuffing the fairness doctrine
down the throats of Liberals!!
canopfor on June 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Yeah, but….how will the MSM cover this?
d1carter on June 4, 2009 at 10:41 PM
“The New York Times, and the rest of the established press, needs Barack Obama a lot more than he needs them…”
er, no, ’cause WHEN barry craters, the fastest way back to relevance for the s.r.m. would be to pile on — but hey, if they both go down to defeat i would consider that a win-win i suppose …
Buckaroo on June 4, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Amen. I’ve been saying all along that if the MSM reported even half of what you find on Hotair, Obama’s approval rating would be in negative numbers.
How can people pressure the government to do the right thing if they don’t really know what’s going on?
Daggett on June 4, 2009 at 10:42 PM
To the whole wide world!
christene on June 4, 2009 at 10:43 PM
With a big tarp. Pun intended.
Daggett on June 4, 2009 at 10:43 PM
I’m growing more and more concerned about all this “re-making” business. Re-make America. Re-make the media.
myrenovations on June 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Seven Percent Solution on June 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Well, maybe when it comes time for a cash infusion. But Obama wouldn’t be where he is without the ass-kissing from our state media, and he wouldn’t be able to point to that high approval rating without the daily sycophancy.
ddrintn on June 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Why do I have the feeling Vanity Fair thinks the Obama’s lovey-dovey-kissyface relationship with the media is a good thing?
TheQuestion on June 4, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Also…
Raaaacist.
TheQuestion on June 4, 2009 at 10:47 PM
I’ve said before and I will say it again. When the history of this time period is written the most important aspect will the total abdication of the media to fulfill their duties. They are a disgusting bunch and People might as well be the paper of record.
Cindy Munford on June 4, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Never happen. They’ve sold themselves lock, stock and barrel.
ddrintn on June 4, 2009 at 10:48 PM
To the whole wide world!
christene on June 4,2009 at 10:43PM.
christene: Agree,To the whole wide ‘Free World’!:)
canopfor on June 4, 2009 at 10:48 PM
The pamphleteers started this whole Democracy nonsense, they can die with it.
OldEnglish on June 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM
That’s because Barack Hussein Obama is the most powerful human in history.
jgapinoy on June 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM
As much as I hate the MSM I think it’s not as bad anymore, bc their bias is a joke. It’s known. Check an Obama approval rating. The independents are ALREADY 50-50 even with the lovefest. Remember more people watch foxnews each night than msnbc CNN and headline news COMBINED, even the young watch foxnews more than any other. The tea parties, the rising % of the young that are pro life…,..
It doesn’t matter. Sure the random housewife might just get her news from a biased NBC, but a hugeswath of the USA doesn’t buy the media. I mean mark levins book is #1 on amazon. Where is that Obama “renegade” book????
Bias doesn’t matter as long as we keep reporting
Their credibility is shot
battleoflepanto1571 on June 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM
On Hannity, Rush was talking about how the possibility of newspapers and MSM stations which are having financial issues, could be bailed out like the banks and GM.
Obama will then literally own major media outlets, and if you think they’re in the tank now, wait until it’s the government signing their paychecks.
Rebar on June 4, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Backbone spotted amidst a sea of jellyfish.
Barrack on June 4, 2009 at 10:51 PM
I’m not holding my breath for any Democrats to get on board…
Conservalicious on June 4, 2009 at 10:51 PM
It certainly is. They dream of a unitary state.
ddrintn on June 4, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Great so just like the President that almost got us into a nuclear war twice Obama will be seen as one of the most awesome presidents ever, this time dealing with the economy.
- The Cat
MirCat on June 4, 2009 at 10:53 PM
P.S. I mean 40 years from now kids in school will know this for a solid fact.
MirCat on June 4, 2009 at 10:53 PM
“ddrintn on June 4, 2009 at 10:48 PM”
then, as i said, let them both high tai it to the ashbin of history [!!]
Buckaroo on June 4, 2009 at 10:54 PM
high TAIL — sheesh …
Buckaroo on June 4, 2009 at 10:55 PM
There needs to be demonstrations in front of
ABC,CNN,MSNBC,the State Runned Media!!!!
canopfor on June 4, 2009 at 10:56 PM
I’d like to believe that, but last November showed that large numbers of sheeple in the country get their misinformation from the state media. I think the hope is that sufficient numbers of them die off.
ddrintn on June 4, 2009 at 10:56 PM
No shit! LOL What an understatement.
ddrintn on June 4, 2009 at 10:59 PM
If I were the state media, which I am not, I would suggest they lay off the Kennedy references. They’re desperately trying to re-live something that can never exist again.
Del Dolemonte on June 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM
battleoflepanto:
I so pray you’re right. It seems like so many have scales on their eyes and are hypnotized by this extreme narcissist. Fox News gets high ratings, but it’s not being watched by the young kids who get caught up in the hype of Obama and vote for him. How do we reach that group who is voting while blind on the issues?
fanofamerica on June 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM
“It’s amazing that the amount of news that happens in the world every day always just exactly fits the newspaper.”
- Jerry Seinfeld
TMK on June 4, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Dems to are to power happy to get on the bandwagon, IMO. They will dismiss it as sour grapes on the GOPs part, and the whole “We Won” starts again.
Sanjoboy on June 4, 2009 at 11:08 PM
” but it’s not being watched by the young kids”
i would match redeye’s demo. against ANYTHING on the s.r.m. networks …
Buckaroo on June 4, 2009 at 11:08 PM
The news and entertainment media spread liberal propaganda. This is why I am so grateful to Hot Air and other conservative web sites.
But where do members of the media pick up their liberal bias and doctrine? Liberal academia. We need to work on challenging the bias of both, infiltrating both, and supporting conservatives in both the media and academia.
Loxodonta on June 4, 2009 at 11:09 PM
No big deal, the Precedent will just appoint a newspaper Czar and a media Czar. And to complete the picture, how about a Weekly Reader Czar (do they still have that in grammar school)?
This Czar crap is really bugging me.
Knucklehead on June 4, 2009 at 11:10 PM
“Loxodonta on June 4, 2009 at 11:09 PM”
the media — easy — look at the blogosphere, etc. over the past 1/2 decade …
academia — not so easy [!!]
Buckaroo on June 4, 2009 at 11:10 PM
It’s great to see a little push back from the Reps against something so obvious.
You go Cong. Smith!
katy on June 4, 2009 at 11:11 PM
“Knucklehead on June 4, 2009 at 11:10 PM”
heh — try “time for kids” that gets foisted on mine every couple of weeks
[!!!!]
Buckaroo on June 4, 2009 at 11:11 PM
LOL, yeah. The state media’s main sources these days are HuffPo and DKos.
ddrintn on June 4, 2009 at 11:13 PM
You can’t. But I don’t think it matters that you reach them. 2008 was a 1 time deal. Getting the first black president RE-elected won’t be nearly as awesomely cool as getting him elected. And getting a Democrat senator elected in 2010….like whatever dude.
angryed on June 4, 2009 at 11:14 PM
He’s right.
It’s bias + news control. They are the gatekeepers about which stories see the light of day for those don’t get news from the web.
INC on June 4, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Yeah but that’s actually what im saying
We had commentators crying, thrills up legs, a possible Obama vp writing the questions for courics palin interview, zero questions on abortion or guns on the debates, magazine covers with halos, magazines with McCain having blood from his mouth, msnbc running “how many houses does palin own”, media following obama to Berlin, a factcheck group that had it’s checks written by works, acorn registering the Dallas cowboys offense tovote in Nevada, nytimes front page lies on McCain and a lobbyist, a $500 million war chest for Obama, an unlikeable grouchy old man as the GOP running against a young “first”, a GOP candidate with no economic plan, a huge economic crisis, a sitting GOP prez with an approval of 30%, a sitting GOP vp with a 19% approval, an unpopular war that the dem just happened to be against in 2003 (even tho it was in the state house and didn’t matter), and black turnout of amazing numbers, with 99% of black women voting for obama…………
……
……and he won 53-47.
People aren’t that dumb re: the media. Others say “wow how bad 2008 was, I say “it should have been MUCH worse.
Best scenario evan…… And O can’t get 54%?
The worm is turning.
battleoflepanto1571 on June 4, 2009 at 11:15 PM
I do wish a movie was made,a comedy if you will,
maybe like An American Carol,where the Liberal
media can be lampooned,and the truth of it laid
bared!!
canopfor on June 4, 2009 at 11:17 PM
works=soros sorry
battleoflepanto1571 on June 4, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Ok…I’m sure Thomas Paine would respectfully disagree.
daesleeper on June 4, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Right. The country is basically 40/40/20, lib/rep/swing. To win elections you have to win 11 of that final 20. Obama won 13. All he has to do is lose 4 of that 13 and he loses in 2012. Not that hard to imagine.
angryed on June 4, 2009 at 11:18 PM
File under: no shyte. :/
RedNewEnglander on June 4, 2009 at 11:20 PM
I just heard on the radio that the State Department sent a memo to foreign journalists, written in Spanish, advising them to watch the coverage of the speech on CNN.
Apparently this is not typical.
capitalist piglet on June 4, 2009 at 11:20 PM
We need a tea party against the media!
The socialist nations are laughing at the media coverage this idiot is getting. “Journalists” are trying to get in the in-crowd and they think fawning over Urkel is going to get them viewers. Fox News and talk radio are kicking butt.
jencab on June 4, 2009 at 11:21 PM
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that a liberal media bias is the second greatest threat to America.
I believe that the biggest threat is really the public school system.
Our schools have become politicized beyond hope, and they are incapable of churning out graduates who can think critically enough to see through the liberal media bias.
If any politician would ever come out and say this I would be behind them one hundred percent.
UltimateBob on June 4, 2009 at 11:24 PM
LOL…MSNBC will be crying on its pillow.
ddrintn on June 4, 2009 at 11:25 PM
One enables the other.
Tommy_G on June 4, 2009 at 11:27 PM
The conservative blogosphere is a start. From here, writers can be promoted into print media, except that newspapers are dying out and being replaced by the internet, video and radio. So, we also need talented and charismatic speakers who can infiltrate those sectors. Then we have to promote them, cite them, link to them. With advertising revenue, there could be financial incentives and rewards.
As to academia, making any headway there will require a lot of money. We need benefactors who will give scholarships and grants to promote conservative students and academics in a wide variety of fields, one of which must be journalism. And these benefactors must be willing to give their money without seeing any financial return. This is will be charitable work for which the reward will be a better country.
Loxodonta on June 4, 2009 at 11:28 PM
I’m hoping against the odd’s that Glenn Beck will catch on with young kids, especially now that school is out. He’s a goofball, but is easy to understand. His bit he did with Jenga blocks in trying to explain how the economy was going to collapse was amazing. I’ve turned on 2 teenagers to Beck in the last couple of days and they love him.
Knucklehead on June 4, 2009 at 11:30 PM
The MSM doesn’t report it, it didn’t happen. I’m waiting for the ‘necessary’ bailout of the NYT’s.
GarandFan on June 4, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Again, as I’ve stated (To the liberal readers – I say this as a brown skinned Mexican minority) in the past, the best hope for this country to resurrect itself is for white Christian America to stand up and make their presence known. The founders left you all a great legacy, you must stand up. Do not fear the press, fear (revere) God Almighty.
I appreciate the Representative’s actions, but only white Christian America has the numbers to make a difference in the direction of this great nation.
We Mexicans will not deliver you the votes to make a difference and the blacks have completely sold out to the state. Only you can make the difference.
When you get power I only have one request, and it’s not amnesty. :)
GET RID OF THE FED!!!!!!!!
True_King on June 4, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Paine was radical. he picked that particular fight because it was the fight of the day – against authority. If that fight had not been available, he would have picked another.
It is the mark of a radical – change, whether warranted or not.
OldEnglish on June 4, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Yeah. All that sucking up, and snubbed for the other girl. It would be funny if they were actually offended enough to start reporting him more fairly, but I’m not inclined to hold my breath, for some reason.
But what is the State Department doing, directing reporters to a particular network’s coverage? It’s almost like they knew in advance that Obama would be presented in the best possible light.
capitalist piglet on June 5, 2009 at 12:07 AM
The truth is that men are tired of liberty.
- Benito Mussolini
MB4 on June 5, 2009 at 12:14 AM
The corrupt nature of the mainstream media is a gigantic problem, and frankly I don’t understand how people supposedly dedicated to the principles of journalism can sleep at night knowing they’re doing what they’re doing.
That said, I think this is kind of stupid. What are they going to do? File reports? Do exactly what at least a dozen organizations do with private capital instead of taxpayer dollars? Google search “liberal media bias” and you’ll easily get all the information these guys are going to find. The caucus is formed with it already established that they aren’t going to do anything.
Unless they do try to do something, which is the worst case scenario. I don’t know these guys, but operating off of pure assumption I am sure more than one of these guys have an inconveniently hypocritical-sounding quote about the fairness doctrine. We have a first amendment in this country and I get extremely nervous when the government asserts control over the press. It’s the reason the left wing media bias is so destructive, preventing people from making informed decisions by manipulating their decision-making process through knowledge of how and where people absorb information fundamentally undermines the principles of Republican governance.
galenrox on June 5, 2009 at 12:28 AM
…Without losing >11% of 40—or twice that if they vote for the other guy rather than stay home.
FloatingRock on June 5, 2009 at 12:34 AM
+1 X 2
Liberal media is the result, educational indoctrination is the cause. Both are important but the later is the root of the problem.
FloatingRock on June 5, 2009 at 12:41 AM
Free media in heat are the biggest threat to freedom.
Our media have redefined propaganda, forgotten their duties, and will aid most in our destruction.
Still, we are the fools to let it happen.
Schadenfreude on June 5, 2009 at 12:53 AM
And, perhaps not surprisingly, The New York Times woos back—rewarding the president with a lavishness of coverage not seen since, well, J.F.K. in 1962. It’s an establishment lovefest.
progressoverpeace on June 5, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Bullseye.
Kids are indoctrinated for 10-12 years, and yet the country still leans right. I wonder what would happen if the schools were conservative indoctrination centers instead of liberal ones.
We wouldn’t even have to worry about the liberal collidge campi, it’d work itself out.
misterpeasea on June 5, 2009 at 1:20 AM
True, but a top down approach would probably work too, although it might take longer to work through the public schools system.
FloatingRock on June 5, 2009 at 1:27 AM
They would be laughing at their socialist/fascist/racist professors like the Chinese students laughed at Geithner.
MB4 on June 5, 2009 at 1:33 AM
The public schools will not be anything close to decent, so long as the federal government has any hand in them. Unfortunately, the GOP is scared to call for the feds to get out of education, which is clearly a state power. They have to get over the fear of being laughed at, because they would be on the correct side, no matter what the hyenas on the left try and say. And, on top of that, federal participation in the school business has been net destructive and unbelievably expensive.
I don’t even know why the cost of schooling seems to go up so much when the cost of materials has gone down so far. I have a bigger library at my fingertips than anyone in the world had 30 years ago. And tons of free info.
progressoverpeace on June 5, 2009 at 1:38 AM
Wouldn’t that be a beautiful sight?
On that pleasant thought, I’m off to bed. ‘nite, folks.
UltimateBob on June 5, 2009 at 1:38 AM
If only a caucus in the House was enough to actually impact bias in the MSM.
Stickeehands on June 5, 2009 at 1:40 AM
Whether schools are public or private, teachers in general will probably lean left until the centers of higher learning are dealt with.
I think a top down approach may be the most practical approach to the problem.
It worked for the left.
FloatingRock on June 5, 2009 at 1:46 AM
the country still leans right. That’s because they have parents, the Dems are working on fixing that: earlier pre-school, year round school, longer school days; breakfast, lunch, & dinner provided. Parents will be unneeded.
It is necessary to destroy freewill to create the totally dependent victim class.
batterup on June 5, 2009 at 1:48 AM
I don’t think you can stop the left-lean (heavy) of the education departments. They just attract leftists. You can see that in the test scores. The education majors are the worst performers of any field. In the GRE scores, the education people score lower on math than the English students! There is just nowhere to go, in terms of teaching, really. It’s the same basic information that needs to be taught in the early years … arithmetic doesn’t change. So, it just becomes a left-leaning field and I don’t think that can be avoided. They need to be on a tight leash, but that would have to be for states and localities to determine. The more local, the better, for K-12 education, I think, but that’s up to each state.
progressoverpeace on June 5, 2009 at 1:58 AM
Restrictions against ideological indoctrination of students by teachers would probably help even if not a panacea, but the same restrictions applied to those training the next generation of teachers, (and journalists), would have a greater influence in the long run. A combination of both would be ideal.
The teachers union would need to be dealt with as well, since they’ll try to preserve the status-quo, of course, and in pursuit of that goal, loosening the requirements for teachers for a spell may be helpful, allowing recruitment of professionals from various fields.
FloatingRock on June 5, 2009 at 2:12 AM
In a few years the state run media will morph into the ministry of information to spew out propaganda for Ingsoc.
RoboPrompter Obama has already mastered double speak.
Geochelone on June 5, 2009 at 3:10 AM
Conservatives and Libertarians on the interent are the greatest threat to state run media. Boycott MSNBC NBC CNN CBS ABC NPR LAT NYT AP (not allahpundit) and HOLLYWOOD
Geochelone on June 5, 2009 at 3:13 AM
Armstrong Williams, Jeff Gannon, and Maggie Gallagher did not return requests for comments.
benny shakar on June 5, 2009 at 3:19 AM
Alexander Hamilton
Federalist 84
How is the individual to educate himself/herself if he is not blessed enough to have internet and/or cable/dish?
Even public libraries are closing down due to lack of budget or lack of patrons.
What is a conservative’s course of action if every course of action that he takes is considered racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, etc.
I agree with Rush on this one, how many votes did McCain and Bush get due to pandering to this balkanized group or that one? None. The media covered it from what they perceived the victims’ side to be, but Bush and McCain were still demonized for eight and two years respectively. Pandering gets us nowhere; besides it is disingenuous. Conservative leaders need to appeal to the individual’s sense of liberty and freedom, and appeal vigorously. Conservative leaders need to stop bashing talk radio to secure a spot on the Sunday chat shows; we need to take a stand on our principles and hit them in the mouth like they do to us.
Was Justice Clarence Thomas’s “unique” life story celebrated when he was nominated? Hell no! He received the “high-tech lynching” that only the liberal senators and their cronies in the MSM could bring to bear.
When Justice Sonia Sotomayor utters an obviously racist phrase (IN context with her speech) why are we not allowed to call her on it?
The MSM is allowed to fabricate allegations about Justice Thomas, but when a liberal is nominated we are not allowed to say ANYTHING about what she postulated on video? I would argue, and dare I say President Reagan would agree, that we need to throw it right back in their face and force her to answer for this obvious bias (empathy). It can be done with candor and humor, as President Reagan would do it, but IT MUST BE DONE. There is hope fellow Conservatives, just like the Comprehensive Immigration Reform of 2007 debacle the individual can and should rise up and call their senators and congressmen early and often. Call them and tell them you will not stand for blatant bias towards a particular group, because equality in America means equal justice under the law for all Americans.
alohapundit on June 5, 2009 at 5:55 AM
Nonsense. If the media started covering Obama objectively the contradictions between the reality and the hype of his presidency would become self evident and his popularity would erode apace.
Basilsbest on June 5, 2009 at 6:31 AM
The term mainstream media has lost it’s bite, and become, well, mainstream.
Rush has re-dubbed it the “State Run Media,” which is not only more accurate but renews the negative implication.
So for me, State Run Media (SRM) it is.
JiangxiDad on June 5, 2009 at 6:39 AM
Stuck in the car last night so I got to hear Savage read this from Pravda:
American capitalism gone with a whimper
It’s a sad day when when people have to turn to Pravda to get the truth.
TheBigOldDog on June 5, 2009 at 6:52 AM
Just a taste to encourage you all to go and read it:
TheBigOldDog on June 5, 2009 at 6:55 AM
There will be a point when Obama, like any good Marxist, will not allow the present media to exist. Regardless of how often they bow before him,,, they will be replaced. He will not take the chance that some of them one day might get the notion that they are more powerful than he is.
JellyToast on June 5, 2009 at 7:01 AM
As a conservative leaning independent I think that there is far more red on red fighting then blue on blue. The liberals are pretty much united in their protection and defense of the group and the conservative will gleefully rip each other apart over the dumbest things like Lott’s comments or Foley’s emails. I seldom see conservatives defend themselves and when one does, I not only see that defense attacked by liberals but often conservatives. The other thing I see is that liberals are far more accepting of their candidates. They will vote for the party or a candidate that doesn’t quite measure up to what they believe rather then not vote. Conservatives on the other hand seem like they will only vote for a candidate that embraces every one of their views. During the last election I often joked that many conservatives had a list and McCain agreed with 499,999 of the things they felt were important but blew number 500,000 which was never wearing brown loafers on Thursday and they just couldn’t bring themselves to vote for someone who would wear brown loafers Thursday so they stayed home or voted BO to teach the GOP a lesson. Yes the MSM is in the tank but it’s because they are liberal and liberals stick together. There were so many times during the Bush years that my wife and I would just sit in disbelief watching Bush not fight back on even the most blatant untruths. The status quo will remain the same until conservatives start sticking together and get the balls to fight back. As indys both my wife and I voted for McCain even though we didn’t really like a lot of his views and positions but he was far better then destructive BO given to us last November. I said it then and I’ll say it again, thank you conservatives for sticking to your guns and giving the country BO.
jmarcure on June 5, 2009 at 7:16 AM
Dear goopers, Obama is wildly popular,OMG! stop the presses.The electorate does not like the gop, Bush was an idiot, he destroyed your party. By constantly attacking Obama you believe you will win in 2010 and 2012. No goopers, your negativity will drive more people away and you will become even more of a fringe group.But please, continue your hatred of Obama, it will destroy what little chance of getting back into power you had anyway. Have a nice day.See ya at the polls in 2010.
athensboy on June 5, 2009 at 7:17 AM
Form the article:
If only we had someone here with the balls to say this and it wasn’t even harsh compared to the rest of it.
jmarcure on June 5, 2009 at 7:21 AM
It worked for you guys so why not us?
jmarcure on June 5, 2009 at 7:21 AM
“To me, the greatest threat to America is not necessarily a recession or even another terrorist attack. The greatest threat to America is a liberal media bias.”
It’s too little, too late. The long march through the institutions that started in ’68 is in its final phase. They have taken over the education system, the media, popular culture decades ago. Several generations were brainwashed in their worldview. Clueless conservatives never did anything effective to counteract it. America is dead.
modifiedcontent on June 5, 2009 at 7:53 AM
Considering the government is in charge of educating the morons who voted for ChimpyO, it squares that the government would be in charge of forcing the media to tell the truth.
The world has gone crazy when the government is in charge of our national intelligence.
csdeven on June 5, 2009 at 7:59 AM
I don’t quite get your comment. You are sticking to your guns, and voted against Obama. I daresay very many, if not the majority of McCain voters did the same.
Is it OK for you to stick to your guns, but not conservatives?
Also, how do you address the theory that McCain’s entire candidacy was an attempt to attract independents and right-leaning dems, but was an utter failure because they sticked to their guns and went with the extreme leftist?
There’s something in your comment that reminds me of the Israeli/Palestinian issue. To me, you draw a moral equivalency between the left and conservatives (i.e. they both have legitimate but opposed opinions) but call on conservatives to yield, because beneath it all, you know in your heart that the left is insane. The way to fight insanity isn’t to yield. Right stays right regardless of what the majority says. When the collapse comes, I fear you will give Obama voters a pass, because you expect nothing from them, but blame conservatives for saying no. The collapse is apparently what we need. We can’t run the country with just a tiny majority of tax-paying grown-ups who try to be level-headed amid a sea of undisciplined and even dangerous children.
JiangxiDad on June 5, 2009 at 8:00 AM
I wonder if the collapse will be mercifully short (3rd Reich style) or brutally long, as in the case of the USSR or Mao’s China. Remember when Fukuyama proclaimed the “end of history?” It’s about to smack us in the face.
JiangxiDad on June 5, 2009 at 8:11 AM
The educational system has spent the last 25 years dominated by liberals teaching Johnny that it’s OK that 2 + 2 = 5 as long as he “feels good about himself”… They have turned out millions and millions of dullards who are now Obama’s followers who shall not question. This includes members of the MSM and about 98% of Congress and the Courts.
Unless the American people wake up and take their country back, we will get exactly what we deserve! THIS!
sabbott on June 5, 2009 at 8:30 AM
With apologies to Douglas Adams, The MFMSMM (Mother E’ffing Mainstream Media) Should be the first ones lined up against the wall when the revolution comes…
doriangrey on June 5, 2009 at 8:40 AM
You are, Brian.
Blake on June 5, 2009 at 8:43 AM
Conservatives problem is that the only people who are getting any type of conservative perspective on any issue have to get it from AM radio, Fox NEws, or sites like HotAir. The message is not getting out to the public, particularly independents and moderate democrats.
I would like to see cross programming between Fox News and Fox just to be able to get a foothold into the regular market. I am pretty certain Beck on a Friday evening would pull in higher ratings than anything currently on Fox.
chromium on June 5, 2009 at 8:50 AM
Define “guns”. I applaud those like me that voted McCain even though he did not meet all our expectations but I know quite a few conservatives that stayed home election night because they could not vote for a guy that was not a real conservative in their view. I also know two people that voted BO as a protest to the republicans fielding McCain. In my opinion that is just plain stupid and I would have felt better if they stayed home and I did tell them so.
My point was that conservatives guns are themselves and liberal guns are the party. When a liberal sticks to their guns they vote democrat no matter if the candidate agrees with all their personal positions. I just don’t see as many conservatives doing the same because they vote the person not the party and that candidate must agree with all of their personal positions.
Yes I do feel that the left is insane and for the good of humanity I think that conservatives should not be so rigid because it has allowed the liberals to make great strides in all facets of our culture.
There is no moral equivalency between the left and conservatives because the left has no morals but the conservatives’ insistence on absolute morals continues to drive them to social and political irrelevancy.
When the collapse comes I hope people understand who the ones were that caused the fall. I for one do not blame the morons that voted for BO as much as I blame the media, academia and the rich elites.
Yes liberals are children but I have to ask why we let the run free and undisciplined in the first place.
jmarcure on June 5, 2009 at 8:58 AM
What a absolute disgraceful performance that was. I would be ashamed to show my face if I was Brian Williams. As we all know however, shame is one emotion the Left is completely incapable of feeling. It’s part of the mental disorder.
TheBigOldDog on June 5, 2009 at 9:09 AM
I get you now. I live near NYC. I only personally know two other people besides my wife and myself who voted for McCain. I live surrounded by a sea of liberals. I had heard people here at HA threaten to stay home or even vote for Obama, but didn’t believe that would really happen. If you tell me they did, I accept that, and condemn them.
JiangxiDad on June 5, 2009 at 9:16 AM
May I take it that you want Conservatives to … er .. not be Conservatives?
Being a Conservative, rather than a mere republican, is to stick with one’s principles, no matter what. If I were to accommodate the centre, for example, I would no longer be myself – I would be a hypocrite.
OldEnglish on June 5, 2009 at 9:19 AM
I am a Conservative who is no longer a Republican! The party left me years ago! Don’t and won’t send them money until they return to Conservative principles! I will not support a party that wants to be “democratic lite”
sabbott on June 5, 2009 at 9:35 AM
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