Chicago of the North?

posted at 8:46 am on June 4, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Among Election Day activities in Chicago, perhaps none are more storied than the traditional resurrections that allow the dead to vote.  As it turns out, Minnesota may have adopted that tradition in the last election.  Minnesota Majority’s Dan McGrath claims that a survey of voter records show that as many as 2800 dead people managed to make their way to the polls and cast votes (via Yid with Lid):

Today, Minnesota Majority announced the discovery of individuals who were deceased prior to November 4, 2008, yet have voter history records on the secretary of state’s files that indicate they voted in the 2008 General Election.

Minnesota Majority employed a data enhancement service to flag potentially deceased individuals on Minnesota’s voter registration file. Over 2,800 individuals who voted in the 2008 general election were flagged as being “deceased” prior to the election. Minnesota Majority then selected a sample of a dozen records for additional investigation. A representative drove to addresses listed on voter registration records. Interviews conducted with residents or neighbors confirmed that at least 5 individuals from the sample were deceased, the latest having died in March 2007.

Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann said that the records of the 5 dead voters were erroneously updated with a vote history by election workers and were not examples of fraud.

The Secretary of State has the responsibility to cull deceased voters from the rolls.  The Department of Health issues a monthly report of Minnesotans who have died, which the SoS office uses to remove them from voter-registration lists.  Why is this important? If the state did not quickly eliminate the deceased from the rolls, others could use their identities to cast multiple votes, usually through absentee ballots, in order to dilute the legitimate votes of other Minnesotans and throw an election through fraud.

As the oft-told stories of Chicago demonstrate, it doesn’t take long to lose a reputation for clean elections, and it takes a very long time to lose a reputation for incompetence and fraud.

Jeff Davis, the president of Minnesota Majority, claims in the same article that he submitted evidence three weeks before the election to Secretary of State Mark Ritchie of the dead voters still on the rolls.  Apparently, neither Ritchie nor his office took the warning seriously.  Their explanation of an “erroneous update” of voter history makes little sense, either.  Why would the SoS office update a record if the person didn’t actually cast a ballot?  Would that kind of error happen 2800 times?

Ritchie has thus far been a disaster as Secretary of State.  He botched the recount by surrendering his role in enforcing the law on absentee ballots, instead allowing the two campaigns to set ad hoc standards of acceptance.  Now it appears that he can’t handle the basic database maintenance needed to ensure fair elections.  The state needs to conduct an independent investigation into the dead vote, unless we want to replace Chicago as the butt of the jokes.


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The dead love Al Franken.

Disturb the Universe on June 4, 2009 at 8:47 AM

Gee and I wonder who got the Zombie vote!

blatantblue on June 4, 2009 at 8:48 AM

I hate zombies…and they should not be allowed to vote!

ladyingray on June 4, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Exactly, Al Franken all the way. Why isn’t this hypothesis being investigated? See who all 2800 of these zombies voted for?

catlady on June 4, 2009 at 8:50 AM

The state needs to conduct an independent investigation into the dead vote,

Why you throw the hate on shut in democrat voters???

doriangrey on June 4, 2009 at 8:50 AM

Washington has the same problem with dead voters.

Rode Werk on June 4, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Did’t Eric Holder just squash the right of the state AG to remove illegal and dead voter registrations from some state the other day? Can’t remember the info….
Anybody?

katy on June 4, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Zombies and Lizard People – just who you want to select your Senator.

Mr. D on June 4, 2009 at 8:52 AM

I want to try to re-take the House in 2010, but I think it is even more important that the GOP runs great candidates in the states for Sec of State.

We have a big problem with the Sec of State here in Ohio. It does no good to have people thinking that they shouldn’t even bother voting because the system is so corrupted.

I wonder how the GOP has managed to hold on to West Virginia because I know that as of the special election this past Saturday (my mother works the polls) I am still registered as a Democrat there as is my grandmother who passed away in April of 2008.

myrenovations on June 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Dead people voting is very low.

My wife died in July of 2004. I had sent away for an absentee ballot for her that arrived shortly after her passing. I COULD have sent it in with a vote for Bush, which is what she wanted to do, but I didn’t. Instead, I changed my vote to Bush to honor her wishes. I COULD HAVE done something illegal that probably wouldn’t have been caught, but dishonesty rubs me the wrong way.

Why is this so difficult for people to understand?

RWLA on June 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Did’t Eric Holder just squash the right of the state AG to remove illegal and dead voter registrations from some state the other day? Can’t remember the info….
Anybody?

katy on June 4, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Georgia, I think.

myrenovations on June 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Over 2,800 individuals who voted in the 2008 general election were flagged as being “deceased” prior to the election.

I wonder if they are Muslim. If every large city has 2-3 thousand dead Muslims voting it could account for Obama’s inflated number of 7 million.

We must get the ACORN census counters working on this immediately.

Disturb the Universe on June 4, 2009 at 8:55 AM

Per the Obama Administration, these voters will now be called “Post Biological Processes” Voters. They have a lot in common with Franken. His showbiz career is dead, also.

kingsjester on June 4, 2009 at 8:55 AM

Gee Ed, from the tone of your post it appears that you are prejudiced against the differently-lifed. The differently-lifed have rights too, and one should not take the right to vote away from them simply because they reside in a graveyard instead of a house or apartment. I guess your prejudice stems from the fact that the DL’ers tend to vote overwhelmingly for Democrats (who helpfully vote for them).

/lefty rant.

rbj on June 4, 2009 at 8:57 AM

The TX Democrat rallying cry: fight from the grave to prevent voter ID requirement.

The voter fraud problem isn’t just mid-West. But it does get its blood infusions from the Democrat Corrupt Party.

C’mon, TX Conservatives. Pressure our Democrat state legislators to come clean this Special Session; to Remember the Alamo not in racist fury, but in holding strong to our dearly earned Constitutionally inspired sovereign Liberty. It isn’t as if we can MAKE people honest, but we sure as tornado ally can hold people publicly responsible for their corruption.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Why would the SoS want to do his job? After all, it could slant the election in a in favor of a GOP candidate and we can’t have that happen now can we.

larvcom on June 4, 2009 at 8:59 AM

I just heard that Obama’s Justice department declared that it would be voter discrimination if they try to throw out the dead vote. Come on everyone lets have a little sympathy for the dead people, they already have a rough go of it and it took a lot of effort on their part to get out their vote.

cmptrnerd on June 4, 2009 at 8:59 AM

rbj on June 4, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Carrying that irony to its conclusion, the Democrats don’t even believe within their ideology of the afterlife. Deny legitimacy to the living, deny peace to the dead. Everything, everyone is a pawn for them to abuse. /Satanic Stalinist power. At least Hitler’s career got snuffed.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:01 AM

We must get the ACORN census counters working on this immediately.

Disturb the Universe on June 4, 2009 at 8:55 AM

ACORN reps were the ones who registered them in the first place.

sdd on June 4, 2009 at 9:02 AM

cmptrnerd on June 4, 2009 at 8:59 AM

telempathy

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:02 AM

To be fair, I think Republicans should get all aborted baby votes.

SouthernGent on June 4, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Yes, Thank you myrenovations.

And so it begins. The WH census, Eric Holder and this kind of nonsense could keep us out of power forever unless we get our act together.

We always seem to HOPE and assume everything is legit until we get screwed by fraud after the elections.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/02/holder-undermines-georgias-voter-verification-rules-acorn-cheers/

katy on June 4, 2009 at 9:02 AM

ACORN reps were the ones who registered them in the first place.

sdd on June 4, 2009 at 9:02 AM

I know.

Disturb the Universe on June 4, 2009 at 9:03 AM

It depends on what your definition of the word “dead” is.

LibTired (KO) on June 4, 2009 at 9:03 AM

The Dems will need a new “get out the vote” slogan for the next election. Maybe “dig up the vote.”

sdd on June 4, 2009 at 9:03 AM

The dead love Al Franken.

Disturb the Universe on June 4, 2009 at 8:47 AM

Why not, he’s one of them.

MarkTheGreat on June 4, 2009 at 9:04 AM

To be fair, I think Republicans should get all aborted baby votes.

SouthernGent on June 4, 2009 at 9:02 AM

To be fair, sadly true.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Hey quit comparing Minnesota to Chicago. Sorry Ed, Minnesota owns Al Franken. You’d have to step up in class to get to Blago. We’re low class, but we ain’t that low class.

Ted Torgerson on June 4, 2009 at 9:05 AM

The dead love Al Franken.

Disturb the Universe on June 4, 2009 at 8:47 AM

Why not, he’s one of them.

MarkTheGreat on June 4, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Bwahahaha.
Thanks, I needed that.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:05 AM

The Dems have the 2010 in the bag already. Remember, they are always years ahead of the Reps in planning takeovers. The time to scream about it is now, not Nov 5th 2010/12

katy on June 4, 2009 at 9:07 AM

All this concern for the dead voting is all fine and dandy..

But what about the Lizard People?

Who will look out for their votes?

DaveC on June 4, 2009 at 9:08 AM

The Dems will need a new “get out the vote” slogan for the next election. Maybe “dig up the vote.”

sdd on June 4, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Hahahahahahha.

LibTired (KO) on June 4, 2009 at 9:08 AM

unless we want to replace Chicago as the butt of the jokes.

Sorry Ed already happened after you elected The Body.

Caper29 on June 4, 2009 at 9:08 AM

I want to try to re-take the House in 2010, but I think it is even more important that the GOP runs great candidates in the states for Sec of State.

We have a big problem with the Sec of State here in Ohio. It does no good to have people thinking that they shouldn’t even bother voting because the system is so corrupted.

myrenovations on June 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Ritchie, the Ohio secretary of state, and the Oregon Secretary of State were elected as a result of an ACORN Secretaries of State campaign push in 2004 and 2006.

The GOP definitely should focus on Secretaries of State in 2010. This is a critical office, and ACORN knows it.

Wethal on June 4, 2009 at 9:08 AM

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 8:57 AM

As much as I would like a voter ID law passed in Texas, special sessions can only discuss what the governor puts on the agenda, and I don’t think Governor Good-hair will do it.

Here is a prime Texas story:
My daughter left the state after graduating from high school. She hasn’t voted in Texas since 1998. However, every time new voter registration cards are issued, we get one for her.
Also, my mother lived with us the last few years of her life. She passed away in 2005. You guessed it–we still get a new voter registration card for her.

When I called the county about these cards, they said there was nothing they could do. I asked what would keep me from foter fraud. They just said, “Well, it is a felony if you do.”

Margee on June 4, 2009 at 9:09 AM

If it wasn’t so sad, this country would be a knee slapping joke.

rplat on June 4, 2009 at 9:10 AM

The Dems will need a new “get out the vote” slogan for the next election. Maybe “dig up the vote.”

sdd on June 4, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Yes, but what can you do with P Diddy’s “Vote Or Die” campaign?

myrenovations on June 4, 2009 at 9:10 AM

The state needs to conduct an independent investigation into the dead vote, unless we want to replace Chicago as the butt of the jokes.

Too Late…
Senator Al Franken pretty much proves that.

Skandia Recluse on June 4, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Gee, what a great time to try something really crazy such as, oh I don’t know, forcing people to have an actual identification card in order to vote. I know I know, stupid.

Still, I’m a little uncomfortable with the animus of people here who seem to be biased against those who are life-challenged. They didn’t choose to be dead life-challenged, they were born that way. Or something.

Bishop on June 4, 2009 at 9:12 AM

step up in class to get to Blago. We’re low class, but we ain’t that low class.

Ted Torgerson on June 4, 2009 at 9:05 AM

I will never get how stupid people can be, since Obama is doing on monumental scale what he rolled Blago for attempting.

Are conservatives the only ones who see this sardonic irony at America’s catastrophic expense? Or do “liberals” see it but shrug their shoulders and turn their blind eye with indifference or antipathy?

Obama’s ‘righteous’ good intentions pave over the heinous reality–go that route and experience the “richness” of potholes, broken bridges, and single lane highways for two-way traffic.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:12 AM

They didn’t choose to be dead life-challenged, they were born that way. Or something.

Bishop on June 4, 2009 at 9:12 AM

Go the length: no age requirement to vote.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Typical. Those stupid Minnesota Republicans, up to their usual hijinks. No wonder they’ve managed to hang on to power there for so long, even in the face of all the good, honest Democrats in the state. It’s just like Chicago!

Jazz Shaw on June 4, 2009 at 9:19 AM

The Dems will need a new “get out the vote” slogan for the next election. Maybe “dig up the vote.”

sdd on June 4, 2009 at 9:03 AM

As a grassroots Leftist program to deny constituent citizens a voice, the “Weed and Seed” non-profit Marxist federally subsidized program has been in full swing mode for decades purging Constitutional reference from daily life. Their network connection with the ACLU and gay rights organizations seal the deal to sell out America for self aggrandized Marxist empowerment to abuse ideological opponents, aka conservatives.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Zombies eat brains, don’t they?

That kind of explains Al Franken.

Daggett on June 4, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Yes, but what can you do with P Diddy’s “Vote Or Die” campaign?

myrenovations on June 4, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Perhaps some sort of rap on the benefits of being cryogenically preserved until at least the next election. Cryonics is prohibatively expensive but since the Dems now control both the WH and the Congress I’m sure they could throw some stimulus $ into a “Cryonics for Progressives” program. ACORN could handle all the paperwork.

sdd on June 4, 2009 at 9:27 AM

Zombies eat brains, don’t they?

That kind of explains Al Franken.

Daggett on June 4, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Zombies actually eat fecal matter disguised as brains. That explains Franken…both now and ten eyars ago.

sdd on June 4, 2009 at 9:29 AM

Got to love modern medicine when it can help dead people vote and get social security checks.

WashJeff on June 4, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Claude Rains could not be reached for comment. Still spinning in his grave.

Del Dolemonte on June 4, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Is there grounds here for an equal-protection lawsuit? It is diluting the vote of the living, after all.

njcommuter on June 4, 2009 at 9:38 AM

From Franken’s camp, “We see dead people.”

pjean on June 4, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Yes, but what can you do with P Diddy’s “Vote Or Die” campaign? myrenovations on June 4, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Voter die.

mchristian on June 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Al Franken is amusing the dead people?

Now there’s a newsflash!

Mcguyver on June 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM

I wondered why there were 2800 dead lizard people ballots in my car trunk.

forest on June 4, 2009 at 9:41 AM

I think its high time for a special prosecutor to look into MN, if possible – one with no political leanings, appointed by their AG.

Perhaps Ed can correct me if I am wrong concerning MN – but I did my internship with NYS Board of Elections and the process was as follows:

While the SoS is responsible for culling dead voters – the monthly tally for precincts and districts is under county election commissioners. Each month – part of my job was to remove or delete “dead” people, based on county health services and coroners. Additionally, the daily task was to code those in jail, those that moved and of course enter new residents legally registered to vote.

The process is much more local per state – before it even gets to the SoS level – or even the state Board of Elections.

My point is – the Cloward-Pivens tactic seems to be in play – where right before an election – massive registrations come into each precinct, of which takes priority to understaffed county Board of Elections, whereas those “dead” aren’t removed properly due to the massive influx.

Combine ACORNS own numbers of registering (no longer available on their website)- say 250k in Ohio for 2008 (which btw is bogus – due to Ohio’s flat or declining population that % is nearly impossible to accomplish – though we all know the fraud of “bonuses to 21 or more per staff member” leads to it) each county and district is bombarded with getting those entries in for people to vote. By the time the votes are cast, numbers are certified by the State – figuring out who is/was dead is ex post facto.

Someone needs to do a deep, locally based investigation into each county and district to begin with, then lead up to the state level. That is where the fraud and manipulation begins – and I believe only a dedicated special prosecutor, without partisian lawyers breathing over their shoulders for every single entry, can get to the root of the problem.

Odie1941 on June 4, 2009 at 9:41 AM

To be fair, I think Republicans should get all aborted baby votes.

SouthernGent on June 4, 2009 at 9:02 AM

To be fair, sadly true.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:04 AM

man…that just made me choke up a little bit. I know it’s off topic, but, these are little American lives who will never, ever vote, let alone see light and be loved. All they’ve known is death.

On topic:
So, is this “investigation” just a neat point of interest? What the frak is with the intellectual disinterest in actually free, fair and honest elections? I mean, is this not something which should cross party lines?

We are so screwed. Who cares if we have a good candidate? When we have dead and illegals and multi-state voting fraud going on, as was replete in the last election, plus a little black panther thuggery, what makes us think we can ever win again?

Mommypundit on June 4, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Gee and I wonder who got the Zombie vote!
blatantblue on June 4, 2009 at 8:48 AM

Do you mean the old stumbling, bumbling slow zombies or the nouvea running zombies?

Akzed on June 4, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Margee on June 4, 2009 at 9:09 AM

Please, you should document your experiences right now and provide your facts to the Republican legislative sponsors and support their effort to protect our votes.

If Perry wants conservative support in his campaign vs. Hutchison, he must put this on the special session agenda.

So your county agents wouldn’t correct their records when you went into their office with your documentation of voter registration cards plus death certificate and your daughter’s current permanent address? Hasn’t she corrected the record in error?

So far as I know in our conservative county, the practice of the law is observed. We vote every election, so our cards are automatically regenerated. But our children have grown and moved out. One has re-registered at that new address, and we don’t get that adult child’s card by mail. The other maintains our home as permanent address, studies elsewhere, and votes regularly with us returning home for elections.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Ed, As a fellow person of Faith, how can you not recognize a true miracle when you see it. The dead have been brought back to life..and just to vote..incredible

The_Lid on June 4, 2009 at 9:55 AM

To readers interested in TX politics on this issue of maintaining voter and election integrity, recall our context.

We were so abused by the damned Democrat absences, having ALL fled out of town and subsequently into New Mexico during REGULAR legislative session (we only get sessions every other year, readers) in order to prevent a vote by preventing a quorum attendance. It was this voter fraud issue as to the legislature’s legal practice of redistricting in order to properly represent each region’s REAL population that burned the crook Ronny Earl, who in turn took down DeLay over bogus charges of money laundering based upon a legal determination that occurred AFTER the processing of funds from the general collection to where need be. No one can be prosecuted on a law that is passed after an action occurs, LATER determined to be inappropriate appropriation. And Earl NEVER permitted DeLay’s case to come to trial; and Earl retired placing his puppet in the Travis County DA office in his stead. And the Marxist media smeared DeLay, and the rest is history, including DeLay’s denial of his Constitutional Right to a speedy trial to clear his name and his record.

These same Democrats boycotted the processing of this year’s voter ID legislation with THEIR filibuster during regular session, requiring the voter ID placed LAST on the list for vote as their concession to stop their filibuster. These Democrat Legislators enjoy the MSM coverage as they pompously preach the righteousness of augmenting voter registration fraud and skewing ballot results to eliminate opposition.

“Messaging has consequences.” The Republican sponsors need to get the facts out to the public, and citizens will respond. There still are more citizens, the bulk of voters therein, who appreciate the reality that looms not simply overhead, but bearing us down into oblivion. We’re being buried alive by the corruption. Our votes won’t even get counted if we don’t make this stand for voter identification.

/Add to the turmoil, the Hispanic determination to NOT respond to the too soon coming Obama executive decision timing for the next national Census.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 9:56 AM

plus a little black panther thuggery, what makes us think we can ever win again?

Mommypundit on June 4, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Cross reference that with Obama’s lecture delivered from Egypt.

I was looking for a thread to post that link; need to go back to relocate it now.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Al Franken is grateful to the dead.

Steve Z on June 4, 2009 at 10:00 AM

He’s only mostly dead. They just have Miracle Max whip up a miracle pill for each election.

Corsair on June 4, 2009 at 10:02 AM

unless we want to replace Chicago as the butt of the jokes

Yeah, like nobody laughs about how the state elects a pro wrestler as governor and SNL’s Stuart Smalley as senator. But we’ll ROTFL if it turns out that dead people actually cast ballots there.

Mark30339 on June 4, 2009 at 10:02 AM

I thought Chicago was the Chicago of the North?

t.ferg on June 4, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Mommypundit on June 4, 2009 at 9:42 AM

On Black Panthers, Obama’s connections go back far before this election. He personally identified with the Black Militant Power movement since his own juvenile years, through his collegiate years, professional employment choices, and with ACORN accompaniment, through his elections into public offices, now presiding in the Oval Office.

As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.”

Butter Up.

maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Ritchie has thus far been a disaster as Secretary of State.

ed, you never fail to crack me up! ritchie hasn’t been a disaster, he has been a roaring success for those who supported him in becoming sec of state. Saying he is a “disaster” intimates he is somehow incompetent. This guy is a professional election corrupter.

In 2008 Secretary Ritchie was named the Most Valuable State Official in the United States by The Nation magazine and Politician of the Year by Politics in Minnesota, the state’s leading non-partisan public affairs news service. In 2009, he received the Election Verification Network’s national recognition award for his non-partisan leadership throughout the 2008 US Senate race recount.

peacenprosperity on June 4, 2009 at 10:20 AM

No matter how hard you work at fraud, Minnesota will never replace my home town.

burt on June 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM

oops, wrong thread, sorry

kirkill on June 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM

It’s no wonder the zombies like Franken…he’s just a little maggot anyway…

ladyingray on June 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM

It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.

-Stalin

Rebar on June 4, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Ritchie has thus far been a disaster as Secretary of State. He botched the recount by surrendering his role in enforcing the law on absentee ballots, instead allowing the two campaigns to set ad hoc standards of acceptance.

I thought the Minnesota Supreme Court did that, no?

YYZ on June 4, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Obama did say that if he were elected the seas would subside and the lame would walk. He forgot to mention that the dead would vote.

Lily on June 4, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I’m sure ACORN didn’t have anything to do with it. From what I hear, they are completely non-partisan. That’s why they get our tax dollars.

Star20 on June 4, 2009 at 11:33 AM

I still contend that Minnesota should be punished for this nonsense by not seating anyone from this election.

Run a special election for a four year senatorial term in 2010.

Yes, Minnesotans should be PO’ed. And then hold their elected reps accountable, regardless of political party.

There’s nothing partisan about incompetance.

connertown on June 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Yeah, like nobody laughs about how the state elects a pro wrestler as governor and SNL’s Stuart Smalley as senator. But we’ll ROTFL if it turns out that dead people actually cast ballots there.

Mark30339 on June 4, 2009 at 10:02 AM

I wish all you folks would quit equating Jesse with the despicable Franken. Compared to Al, Jesse was Alexander Hamilton. Minnesotans elected Jesse, because he was the first candidate in decades who, when asked a question, would actually tell you what he thought, rather than the usual BS platitudes offered by all the others. Of course, once he was elected the PC police made it their special mission to destroy him, not without some active assistance by Jesse himself. The popular culture may have Jesse permanently in the category of buffoon, but I ended up sending a smaller percentage of my income to the state of Minnesota during his tenure than with any other governor before or since.

djaces on June 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM

If Republicans and Conservatives want oust the leftists from power, they need to learn from what has brought the leftists the success they now enjoy. The left is where it is now because they never quit, they never give up, and they never give an inch. Of course, even if the Right were to develop a similar attitude, they would still be at a serious disadvantage because the left’s moral relativism doesn’t allow for any ethical consideration to interfere with their quest to accumulate and maintain power. While the Republicans are eager to throw any of their comrades under the bus at the mere accusation of wrongdoing, the only crime that will get you drummed out of the Democrat cadre is deviation from the party line. The Right supports free speech for everyone, even their opponents, while the Left will go to the mat to support your right to speak your mind, as long as you can demonstrate that that mind has been thoroughly indoctrinated to their agenda. The Left has worked tirelessly to secure their grip on all the levers of public opinion ( education, news, and entertainment) while the Right barely even attempts to contend there anymore. The Left has been relentless in their efforts to expand their voter pool through ACORN, support for illegal immigration, voting rights for convicted felons, opposition to voter ID, etc., while the Republicans feebly limit their GOTV efforts to people who are actually entitled to vote. As I said, the interference of ethical considerations will probably never allow the Right to be an equal match with the Left in these efforts, but I wish the Republicans could at least demonstrate some of the contentiousness and perseverance of their opponents. Our Founders gave humanity one of its’ greatest gifts in the principles of liberty and human dignity that they laid down in our Constitution and that gift merits much more than that, to fight those dedicated to destroying it, but with our current political leadership it’s probably more than we should expect.

djaces on June 4, 2009 at 2:42 PM

Odie1941 on June 4, 2009 at 9:41 AM

I think its high time for a special prosecutor to look into MN, if possible – one with no political leanings, appointed by their AG.

My point is – the Cloward-Pivens tactic seems to be in play – where right before an election – massive registrations come into each precinct, of which takes priority to understaffed county Board of Elections, whereas those “dead” aren’t removed properly due to the massive influx.

The problem is that it’s not just MN, ACORN has been operating nationwide and not just in the last election, but since Obama was a pup in Chicago. The scope of the fraud is so massive, that it hard to imagine an investigation that could uncover more than a fraction of it. The fraud is not limited to voter registration either, Obama’s internet fund raising operation obviously ran under the same principles. Given Soros’ money and ACORN’s manpower, even a barely computer literate type like myself could have set up a network to funnel millions into Obama,s campaign coffers in contributions that passed below the level of scrutiny, especially if I could be assured that no one would ever examine it to closely. Something which was gauranteed by Obama’s waiving of federal matching funds. Coincidence?
When McCain was chosen to be the Republican candidate, I fully expected to see endless reruns of ” The Manchurian Candidate” on all of Ted Turner’s networks, to highlight McCain’s lenghty stay in the hands of brainwashing commies. Strangely the film was actually shown less frequently than usual. Perhaps they correctly concluded that if if people really got to thinking about it, they might realize who the real “Manchurian Candidate” was.

djaces on June 4, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I checked with the Demorats here in Chicago and they say we can have the aborted baby votes but we have to wait 18 years so that they are of legal voting age.

cmptrnerd on June 4, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Gee and I wonder who got the Zombie vote!
blatantblue on June

Can’t say.

Dead voters are very hard to track down, and when ya do find them they NEVER answer your questions!

Its like ya know they like totally ignore you!

DSchoen on June 4, 2009 at 4:36 PM