Brownback on Gitmo
posted at 12:14 pm on June 4, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Sam Brownback held a conference call for bloggers about his recent trip to the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and the effort of the Obama administration to close it.
Brownback called it one of the nicest prisons he’s ever seen, and one uniquely designed for its mission. He called it a “well-run, professional” prison and that the detainees are getting very humane treatment. Brownback said, “I don’t know where you could duplicate this facility,” and that is the crux of his concern.
The Senator said the problem the US faces is not containing the detainees in US facilities, but in securing the area around the prisons from terrorist actions. Leavenworth in his home state gets suggested often for housing terrorist detainees, but while it could secure the terrorists, the civilian population around it would be vulnerable to attack for publicity by the terrorist organizations at war with the US.
Brownback also questioned the cost involved in replicating the Gitmo facility anywhere else in the world, including the US. It would take hundreds of millions of dollars, which we don’t have at the moment. The process of moving people would delay their trials or tribunals, as well. It will also not address the real objections from others, which is not Gitmo itself, but the fact that we detain these people at all. The only way to pander to the anti-American sentiment would be to set all the detainees free.
Questions:
- Wouldn’t moving the detainees would allow them to spread their radical Islam among the general prison population or force them into solitary confinement, which is more harsh than they have now? — Yes, and moving them into general populations would violate the Geneva Conventions as well.
- Does the new polling showing majority opposition to closing Gitmo spring from the Obama administrations efforts to close it? — Brownback demurred from analyzing that, but it shows clearly that Obama is out of step with the American public.
- Is the administration still pushing the notion of other nations taking detainees? — Not since the Europeans rejected the idea out of hand.
- Will Congress authorize the funds to close Gitmo if Obama doesn’t have firm plans? — No way. They’re running out of time, and they haven’t even begun proposing alternate sites. They needed to keep the military tribunals going in order to meet the 1-year goal.
- Have you read or seen Obama’s Cairo speech? — Not yet, but Brownback attended a symposium on the two-state solution, and says it’s time to admit that the policy doesn’t work. The Israeli withdrawal from Gaza produced a terror state, and the same thing would happen in the West Bank. It’s time to get Egypt and Jordan to get back into those territories and provide legitimate governance.
- Follow-up — Calling Iran’s nuclear aspirations “legitimate” was “the heighth of irresponsibility” by Obama. He also questioned whether “the Obama administration lifted one finger” to keep North Korea from testing its nuclear device and launching its missiles. “The world is safer when America stands strong around the world.”
- Do you get the sense that Obama would rather let foreign policy slide? — No, but the Obama administration’s viewpoint is “terribly naive” in thinking that the problems around the world are America’s fault.









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Obama’s only worried about the spread of swine flu…
Upstater85 on June 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Sen Brownback: The good twin of Al Gore.
Weebork on June 4, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Good on Sam. I still think he would’ve made a much better prez than McCain (and, it goes without saying, Obama).
If only he wasn’t one of those crazy venom-spewing anti-abortion murder-inciting Christians. /sarc
KS Rex on June 4, 2009 at 12:22 PM
The Precedent told the Egyptian’s he’s closing Gitmo so that the world will love us.
He’s going to name a Gitmo Czar to take care of the problem.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Knucklehead on June 4, 2009 at 12:22 PM
no problem. we’ll ask yoo and bybee for a way around it.
sesquipedalian on June 4, 2009 at 12:26 PM
The only way to pander to the anti-American sentiment would be to
set all the detainees freeexecute all the detainees like they do in Iran, Saudi Arabia and dozens of other Muslim countries around the world.izoneguy on June 4, 2009 at 12:28 PM
I don’t trust Brownback
Zetterson on June 4, 2009 at 12:31 PM
It is probably not going to be an accident that Congress is never going to make the money for Gitmo closing available. Pres. Obama will be able to say it’s not his fault, you know he loves that. And it will suddenly not be a recruiting tool. Moving those folks is wrong on so many levels. I would think that employees of state side prisons and their families would be added to the target list of jihadists.
Cindy Munford on June 4, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Gitmo, Smitmo.
Just change it’s name to Camp Mohammad and be done with all this nonsense.
MB4 on June 4, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Did he really say “heighth“?
I hate it when my fellow Kansans say things that encourage the notion that we’re stupid.
The Monster on June 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Since it was a conference call, the use of “heighth” may have just been the work of whoever transcribed it. Be nice to Sam; he’s going to be our next Governor. :-)
KS Rex on June 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM
I love local accents, anyone who thinks they are a sign of stupidity are themselves stupid.
Cindy Munford on June 4, 2009 at 12:49 PM
We already said you libs can send them back here to RC South with us. We’ll take care of them.
hawkdriver on June 4, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Using common sense is not as attractive an option as closing Gitmo down, incurring so much more expense to house these detainees elsewhere. Let’s see, we have them on an island 100 miles away from our shores… NO! Let’s bring them HERE.
Only if we put them in a liberal state like mine of California. Oh wait… we don’t even have a prison in Los ANGELES!!! We send OUR prisoners to other counties. Why take federal prisoners here?
originalpechanga on June 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM
We can only hope=)
canditaylor68 on June 4, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Obambi’s fatwa on Gitmo has an expiration date (like most of his “policies”) except this time we know when that will be – January 22nd 2010 (or there abouts). On that day he may give some excuses but Gitmo itself will not close. Why? The fatwa was a PR stunt. Like most of his “policies” this one was not thought through. No executive experience. He’s a dope. Bush was right again.
johnnybgood on June 4, 2009 at 1:34 PM
No one in the Administration has yet answered the most basic questions:
— At what point upon arrival on US soil will the Gitmo detainees be granted their full judicial rights under the Constitution as landed immigrants?
— Once granted these full judicial rights as landed immigrants, when will these detainees be released pending trial for crimes allegedly committed outside the jurisdiction of US courts?
— Once released into the general population pending further judicial action or ICE determination will these detainees simply vanish (along with the several million other non-documented illegal aliens) and our ability to find even a single one of them be found totally impossible?
— Lastly, should the Administration hold these detainees, as landed immigrants, with full judicial rights as landed immigrants, be held in federal incarceration facilities within the United States, at what point is the Constitution and the Rule of Law to be tossed aside and all US citizens and US persons thus be in danger of being incarcerated by this Administration for alleged crimes without habeas corpus rights?
Brown v. Vasquez(1992), determined by the Supreme Court a recognition that a writ of habeas corpus is the fundamental instrument for safeguarding individual freedom against arbitrary and lawless state action.
Unless these very simple questions are answered in full view of the public and on the record by the Administration, all the dog and pony shows by Congress and members of the Administration are not worth squat.
coldwarrior on June 4, 2009 at 1:40 PM
What worries me is not whether any of these folks could escape from a super-max prison. What worries me is that a judge would release them from one….and pay them to live in this country….and allow them to sue us….and of course offer them full professorships at
overpricedmajor universities.TugboatPhil on June 4, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Remember that Sen. Brownbeck voted for Kathleen Sebelius for HHS. He says he is pro life, but when it came time to stand on his principles he caved. I’m so glad he helped put a woman who believes in shoving scissors into the skulls of fetuses in charge of my health care.. Yippee.
kringeesmom on June 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM