Video: Why Cairo?
posted at 1:05 pm on June 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
CN finally catches up to Real Clear World in asking why Barack Obama chose Cairo to deliver a speech on American relations with the Muslim world. If we want to support democracy and self-determination, why deliver the speech in a country that rejects both? On the other hand, if Obama wants to distance himself from Israel, as Ben Wedeman suggests, why deliver the speech from a nation that many Muslims outside and inside of Egypt consider a pariah for having diplomatic relations with Israel?
Kevin Sullivan sees even more problems with this choice:
But while I’ve noticed some disagreement over the substance and purpose, I’ve heard very little about the choice of location. If the president really wants to address the so-called Muslim World (a questionable label, at best), wouldn’t it make sense to do so from the most populous Muslim country, one of the most prosperous, and arguably the most democratic?
The country I’m alluding to? Indonesia.
At least in Indonesia, we would have a setting in which “political Islam”, to use Kevin’s words, does not provide ruinous conditions for Muslims. Egypt, after all, is home to the Muslim Brotherhood, which was and is the precursor to groups such as al-Qaeda. The Brotherhood celebrated the outreach to Israel by assassinating its author, Anwar Sadat. Hosni Mubarak succeeded Sadat and is still in power as a dictator, directing a police state. It’s hardly a setting for an American President to offer the best of American values to the Muslim world.
A 30-minute speech is not going to make the Muslim world fall in love with America, although it certainly won’t hurt — as long as it’s not an opening bid in a process that winds up betraying the one West-looking democracy in the region, Israel. The issue in the Middle East isn’t Israel, anyway; it’s the kind of dictatorship that Egypt imposes on its people that creates extremism and violence, and Indonesia is one example of a Muslim nation that minimizes that problem through democracy and relatively open debate. An endorsement of Mubarak hurts more than it helps. It’s the location, not the speech itself, that makes no sense.
In the meantime, be sure to read A Peace to End All Peace in order to brush up on the history of the Middle East over the last 100 years. David Fromkin wrote this several years ago, but it remains one of the best and most readable histories of the series of blunders that brought us to this pass today. My friend and political opposite Shaun Mullen has an excellent review up at Kiko’s House after he took my book recommendation:
It is likely that the Middle East still would be as big a mess as it is without the meddling of the World War I victors, but at least the mess would have been self created and not foisted on the peoples of the region by imperialists who believed themselves and their cultures to be vastly superior.
That is the big takeaway from A Peace To End All Peace: Creating the Modern Middle East by David Fromkin, a weighty tome published in 1989 now out in a 20th anniversary edition that predates but anticipates the inability of the Clinton administration to craft a coherent policy for the region and inadvertent efforts of the Bush administration to further destabilize the region through the Iraq war. Britain, France and Italy, of course, had seen the sun set on their own empires decades earlier, leaving it to the U.S. to determinedly learn nothing from the past, including the lessons of the 1919 Paris conference, as the world’s remaining superpower.
“These three all-powerful, all-ignorant men, sitting there and carving up continents,” wrote a diplomat who observed U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, British Prime Minister David Lloyd George and French President Georges Clemenceau at work at the 1919 conference.
Obviously, I disagree with his application of lessons today — the US has to address the Middle East of today, not of 1917 — but Shaun’s review is great reading, as is the book itself.










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He’d have chosen The Dome of The Rock if he could.
bluelightbrigade on June 3, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Does Cairo have good waffles?
Daggett on June 3, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Egypt is teleprompter friendly. Plus he can walk like an Egyptian.
portlandon on June 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Wasn’t there a HA post/link awhile ago where the line from the White House was that Cairo got the nod due to logistics and “security” concerns? (Which says so much right there…)
Pasalubong on June 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Mecca wasn’t available.
Realist on June 3, 2009 at 1:11 PM
… Plus maybe he can part the Red Sea from Egypt…
Pasalubong on June 3, 2009 at 1:11 PM
… because he wanted the media to compare him to the glory of the pyramids.
myrenovations on June 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM
An added bonus to giving a speech in Indonesian for Obama is that he would not need a visa to enter, since he is an Indonesian citizen.
pseudonominus on June 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Are you sure? I’m pretty sure from the press accounts that the world bagan loving us round about November 5. This can only increase their affections.
mankai on June 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Maybe it is a sign to Al Zaheri (Spelling? 2nd Al Queda guy) that the American President can come into the hiding country of the terrorists and not fear death.
Just a thought I had. I don’t like having anything positive to say about Obama, but maybe there was something to the choice that says something to the terror groups.
Maybe Obama didn’t even know he was making that point but…
petunia on June 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM
He is ignorant of Middle East affairs. He’s trying not to offend anybody, and, in doing so, he offends everybody. His ignorance precedes his every action.
OhEssYouCowboys on June 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Indonesia might no be as enamored with The One as before.
rw on June 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Yeah, Barry. You still pakai bahasa Indonesia? Coulda wowed the crowd, baby.
Indonesia’s brand of Islam is pretty different than Middle Eastern Islam. While Egypt may be a weird choice, Indo would have been almost a non-sequitur. It’s not like Indonesia has much standing within the Muslim world.
TexasDan on June 3, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Somebody get that song on the radio!
petunia on June 3, 2009 at 1:17 PM
He wants to have his picture taken in front of the Great Pyramids, one of the 7 Wonders of the World, since he’s the 8th Wonder of the World.
Knucklehead on June 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM
If we could just get Britain out of Egypt, democracy, peace and the great scientific-Islamic culture would flourish in the middle east.
mankai on June 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM
KHAAAAN!!!!
abobo on June 3, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Obama knew he could be worshipped as a king there.
This explains all the bowing./
A bazaar in Egypt is selling Obama-themed memorabilia heralding Obama as the new King Tutankhamun ahead of the U.S. president’s upcoming visit.
canditaylor68 on June 3, 2009 at 1:20 PM
What does it matter where in the muslim world the traitor gave his talk? They are all primitve sh!tholes and he is nothing but a traitor.
And, as to the history of the middle east and how these problems developed, you can trace it all back to allowing the primitives to steal the oil fields in their forced nationalizations. The gulf oil fields are where the threat from the arab/persian/muslim world begins and ends. It isn’t too difficult to understand that.
progressoverpeace on June 3, 2009 at 1:20 PM
No, he is the 8th, 9th, and 10th Wonder of the World.
pseudonominus on June 3, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Because Cairo is just a short hop from Mecca.
Vashta.Nerada on June 3, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Perhaps he and Michelle will go on a date night to The Sphinx…
D2Boston on June 3, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Bingo. And, without that oil, the whole region would be about as relevant as a baby crying in Tiller’s office.
P.S. Love the use of “primitives.” I tend to use “savages,” myself.
OhEssYouCowboys on June 3, 2009 at 1:24 PM
After He eliminates Israel that will indeed be on the List. The Waqf will be only too pleased to admit Him. Maybe the Waqf can get some more milage out of that late 7th Century tourist attraction…
Friendly21 on June 3, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Ciaro?
Does B.O. want a sarcophagus when he dies, and a beautiful pyramid with a gryphon like sphinx to guard his temple as his worshipping tribe of idiots fan around the pyramid in hopes that he “arises” from the ashes of the great paraoh?
hmm
upinak on June 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Is he bringing the styrofoam temple?
Chuck Schick on June 3, 2009 at 1:30 PM
There is more oil and natural gas in Africa, then in the middle east, per our U.S.G.S. aka international oil and gas explorers, paid for in part by the Americans.
You just can’t get to it in Africa like you can in the middle east.
Ahhh slave labor and such. Gotta love how the world works.
upinak on June 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Why Cairo? Mecca was booked for a beheading.
elduende on June 3, 2009 at 1:32 PM
We gotta come up with a catchy title for this awesomely awesome event. Something along the lines of The Thrilla in Manila and The Rumble in the Jungle.
“Denial on the Nile”
Help me out, folks.
Christien on June 3, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Because Hes going home.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=571821
hanoverfist on June 3, 2009 at 1:37 PM
The Stand in the Sand
BobMbx on June 3, 2009 at 1:38 PM
BobMbx,
Niiiiice!
Christien on June 3, 2009 at 1:40 PM
The One in the Sun
Christien on June 3, 2009 at 1:41 PM
The Tyro in Cairo
Christien on June 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Is grey poupon available in Eygpt?
booter on June 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM
The Kook to the Souk.
Mason on June 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM
I think He chose Cairo because they’re the only Muslim nation that would allow Him to set up those Greek-style columns. Besides that, Egypt pre-figures into all Messiah life-stories, doesn’t it?
dmh0667 on June 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM
His priority was Babylon, as he fancies himself the next Nebuchadnezzar, but that would have given GWB credit.
Schadenfreude on June 3, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Seriously I think it’s because it’s the land of the
Pharaohs, and this puppet actually sees himself as one.
The sycophantic news media are probably already busy practicing their slobbering tingle-up-the-leg reports for their Messiah, for instance, something likely along the line of…”tonight from the ancient land of the Pharaohs- President Barack Obama, in a very historic move…..” garbage…though of course they won’t say the word garbage- but that’s exactly what it represents.
8-track-vinyl on June 3, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Can someone one tell me if Michelle the belle went with him because I’ve seen no sign of her.
tee866 on June 3, 2009 at 1:50 PM
The last thing we should be doing is promoting democracy in these nations. They aren’t going to elect a Sadat or even a Mubarak.
If Indonesia is an exception, then it is just that…an exception. Most of these nations will elect the biggest nut they can find, like Ahmadinejad.
Buddahpundit on June 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Obama knew he could be worshipped as a king there.
This explains all the bowing./
A bazaar in Egypt is selling Obama-themed memorabilia heralding Obama as the new King Tutankhamun ahead of the U.S. president’s upcoming visit.
canditaylor68 on June 3, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Why travel all the way to Egypt? He is already worshipped (witness Brian Williams) by the lefty media here. I wonder if he’ll appear dressed like the Steve Martin King Tut character in the old video.
Dukehoopsfan on June 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM
On May 9th, I read this post by Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs: Obama, Make One Stop Before the Muslim Capital. In it she linked to a column written by Andrew Bostom for The American Thinker on February 8th:
At the time of Mr. Bostom’s column, Cairo had already been discussed as a possible venue for this speech.
In the article he discusses and documents the hatred of Jews taught and fomented in Egypt. He closes by presenting a contrasting visit–that of George Washington to the Touro Synagogue and the subsequent correspondence. He then writes:
INC on June 3, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Mason,
Ha ha, clever!
Christien on June 3, 2009 at 1:52 PM
If you are not familiar with the history of Touro Synagogue, these links are from Andrew Bostom:
George Washington’s lasting gift to generations of Jews
Address to the President from the Hebrew Congregation
GW’s Reply to the Hebrew Congregation
Also related, Power Line had a preview by Ronald and Allis Radosh of their new book released on May 12th:
A Safe Haven: Harry S. Truman and The Founding of Israel.
INC on June 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Read Brzezinski and Scowcroft’s new book and then you might get a better idea. Obama’s not making decisions here, no President’s really do.
LevStrauss on June 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM
The Washington Times reported on some of the spin and the criticism surrounding this speech in Obama’s speech in Egypt to reach out to Muslims. Elliott Abrams’ concerns regarding the struggle of some Egyptians for freedom are important to note.
INC on June 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM
So he can visit his brother Tutankhamun’s tomb…
Caper29 on June 3, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Andrew Bostom also included this information:
INC on June 3, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Sure is. He wants to tell the Muslim world that he’s doing the work that terrorists won’t do since 9/11; actively destroying the USA.
BobMbx on June 3, 2009 at 1:59 PM
The Appeaser in Giza
Christien on June 3, 2009 at 2:00 PM
King Tutemprompter
Seven Percent Solution on June 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Have you seen Barack eat
M&Mscouscous? It’s simply heaven!/Brian Williams
omnipotent on June 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Midnight at the Oasis…
Send your TOTUS to bed…
kingsjester on June 3, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Obama looks to be as tall as Osama.
christene on June 3, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Ahmadinejad is batting clean-up in Cairo after The One.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWZmZjAwNWFiMTkxZGNhZmM5YmY2NzQwNjQ4MjVkYjg=
a capella on June 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Why Cairo?
Cairo is the cultural capitol of the Arab World, to a large degree the Arab equivalent of new York City.
Further, Cairo’s influence on sub-Saharan Africa is substantial. For example, Akim Olaijuwon (the NBA player, formerly an unknown soccer player from Nigeria?), once he made his move into the NBA, bought an apartment in Cairo. He’s not alone.
Look at the symbolism again.
Arbalest on June 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM
I wonder if anyone bothered to inform President Obama that the most recent “pharoahs” (and those responsible for the greatness of Alexandria, etc.) were white greek guys and gals, not africans nor muslims?
The Ptolemaic Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemaic_Kingdom
Fatal on June 3, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Well, Ed, I disagree…we need a Middle East of 1917 today more than ever.
Back then, T.E. Lawrence was getting his nascent ideas together for what was to become his epic classic “Seven Pillars of Wisdom” (Note: 7 pillars, not five, nor two…Obama has some catching up to do.) and Shepheard’s Hotel, along the Nile in Cairo, was truly a hotel to be enjoyed, a regular home away from home…and jacket and tie (or military uniform) were required for entry.
Now, no one has heard of “Al-awrance”, and tourists in sandals and t-shirts regularly invade the once hallowed halls of Sheapherd’s, and the Kuwaitis who own the Semiramis skyscraper hotel across the street have blocked out the early morning sun that used to stream into Sheapherd’s morning breakfast room…sunrise and tea for breakfast, how civilized it all once was.
In 1917, we could still make most of the locals in the region stop, pause, and praise Allah for the wonderment of man as we had machines that could take to the air…and scare the hell out of the locals. It only took them about about 83 years to get well past that fear of flying and fear of aircraft.
The Mena House, up on the Giza plateau was the best place to stay whilst clambering over the pyramids, and camel caravan or hired porters was the only way to get there..now the road outside the Mena House Oberoi is choked most of the day with diesel fume spewing noisy buses (all of Soviet make) and non-guests are actually allowed in the bar and lobby.
It all had such great potential…somebody blew it along the way. Now, our Prsident is going to show the “‘Gypters” and all the rest in the region that we are weak…weak I tell you…and ripe for being tossed aside as the Islamacists’ new caliphate spreads from Kabul to Marrakech, Mombasa to Almaty, Dearborn to South Central…
I kinda prefer that 1917 ambiance.
coldwarrior on June 3, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Ever notice that you don’t see Obama and Osama in the same place at the same time?? Coincidence? Hmmmm….
Daggett on June 3, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Yeah, well. Maybe he’s not addressing “the Muslim World”. Maybe he’s addressing the Arab Oil World.
Isn’t that what the left would have us believe?
Jaibones on June 3, 2009 at 2:39 PM
With all due respect for my homies out in South Central…is Obama the blood for oil the Left has been talking about for decades?
coldwarrior on June 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Al Azar University is the Vatican of Islam. That is a good guess as to why he chose it.
The US pays around $2 billion a year to Egypt as jizyah so that they won’t attack Israel. Diplomacy on Muslim terms.
Do you all understand what is happening before your very eyes yet?
rishika on June 3, 2009 at 2:44 PM
isalm is slavery. The word islam means submission.
islam and freedom are opposites…the antithesis of one another. The two cannot exist side by side for any period of time as islam will eventually consume/destroy all personal freedoms. The koran demands it. The imams and ayatoilets are the rulers of islamic countries and they take their orders from a long dead desert bandit who created a religion for the sole purpose of enriching himself, fulfilling his many perverted sexual urges,(pedophilia,necrophilia) and enslaving all those that failed to bow down to his rule and the slavery of islam.
If all the world became muslim and sharia law was the law of the land…the flow of blood would not cease as the pages of the koran demand blood and will never be sated. Give that demonic book a read. See for yourself. Churchill called islam, “the religion of blood and death” for a reason.
No islam…Know Peace…Know islam…throw up.
Obama…emboldening tyrants and dictators since Jan 20th 2009.
islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
Army Brat on June 3, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Egypt has the highest incidence of Female circumsicion. Will NOW be protesting Obama if he fails to admonish the Egyptians for this barbaric violation of Women’s Rights?
kooly on June 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM
He’s speaking from GIza’s Cairo Univeristy. Giza would be an unusual political choice for most, but for Obama it was entirely predictable because the location and history is symbolically related to his personal cult image, not so much his Muslim roots.
As soon as the vague Arab capitol teaser was put out there I thought he was just delaying the inevitable choice but was trying to figure out how he might explain why he wanted to address to the world from the pyramid complex. As it turns out, he found a center of knowledge in Giza and will speak from the Great Hall there. Nice political compromise.
econavenger on June 3, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Conveniently located just three freeway exits from Megiddo.
Terry_Dyne on June 3, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Obama: USA ‘one of the largest Muslim countries in the world’…
We are all Muslims now.
petefrt on June 3, 2009 at 3:26 PM
kooly on June 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM
No, silly. Only evil white males can be “patriarchal oppressors.”
cs89 on June 3, 2009 at 3:31 PM
If I were President, I’d give the speech on American relations with the Muslim world from the Knesset.
jimmy2shoes on June 3, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Something is being surrendered.
BL@KBIRD on June 3, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Synopsis of the day, week, month. Barry’s acknowledgement of Iran’s right to nuclear power was the dinner bell. Now it is time to present the feast.
Limerick on June 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Awww! Very convenient indeed! Is Iran ready?
petunia on June 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Why Cairo? If he wanted to address the Muslim world maybe something closer to home like Toronto, or according to the President’s theory that America is one of the world’s largest Muslim countries, why not from Dearborn Michigan?.. He could visit Government Motors.
saus on June 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM
It’s the Cable News Network not the Cartoon Network, nevermind your empathy toward the latter.
PresidenToor on June 3, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Probably why he didn’t choose it. Afraid some of those embarrassing old records might surface as the Indonesian Muslims rushed to celebrate Barry Soetoro as one of their own.
Ah, King Tut, the insignificant boy king — used and controlled by others, and with a mercifully short reign. An apt comparison.
AZCoyote on June 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM
The Doofus at Khufu’s.
profitsbeard on June 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Half joking: He did not choose Indonesia because the chances were too great that in an unguarded moment without TOTUS he would say something like ‘I was born here…’
ElRonaldo on June 3, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Perhaps “Contemporary American Jewry” should check this out…
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for June 3rd,2009.
oldleprechaun on June 3, 2009 at 7:34 PM
THE DOPE’S TRYING TO COPE…
byteshredder on June 4, 2009 at 12:09 AM