Quotes of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on June 3, 2009 by Allahpundit
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There is no appreciable number of people in this country, religious Christians or otherwise, who support the murder of abortion doctors. The same cannot be said of Muslims who support suicide bombings in the name of their religion.
Yet speak of the disproportionately violent strain in Islam to a “progressive” person and you’ll be met with sneering recitations of millennia-old Christian crusades or Jewish settlements in the West Bank. As for conservative Christians’ contemporary political endeavors, lobbying to ban the teaching of evolution in schools or forbidding same-sex marriage simply does not threaten society in quite the same way as the genital mutilation of young girls or the bombing of the London transit system.
I happen to support a legal regime that would, in Bill Clinton’s famous words, keep abortion safe, legal and rare. I hold no brief for the religious right, and its views on homosexuality in particular offend (and affect) me personally. But it’s precisely because of my identity that I consider comparisons between so-called Christianists (who seek to limit my rights via the ballot box) and Islamic fundamentalists (who seek to limit my rights via decapitation) to be fatuous.
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Pot meet kettle or something like that
CWforFreedom on June 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM
I asked, “who has the most guns” when I recruited for the position and your name immediately came up! Hence the nomination.
TheBigOldDog on June 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Great, you realize that post just got forwarded to the BATF by one of Axelrod’s HA monitoring stations?
Do you hear that?…..Sounds like a helicopter.
Bishop on June 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM
I heard they did, but too late for this one very nice family.
That’s inadvertent to me, anyway.
Or perhaps…..cold comfort?
AnninCA on June 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM
As a founding father, you get to define the position! You just have to keep us from getting killed.
TheBigOldDog on June 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM
I hope you have something that can double as AA! We need the Bishop 88!
TheBigOldDog on June 3, 2009 at 11:45 PM
You are a girl, I presume.
semloh on June 3, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Did you just come out? Well I know SooperTrev will be thrilled!
Stickeehands on June 3, 2009 at 11:46 PM
I am not sure that it is even human
Dunno
CWforFreedom on June 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Why don’t you take your BS over to Dr. Phil? I’m sure he cares/
Knucklehead on June 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM
I’m out. Everybody remember to join, support and vote Las Grandes Cojones!
TheBigOldDog on June 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM
As a founding father, you get to define the position! You just have to keep us from getting killed.
TheBigOldDog on June 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Do I get to hire my own staff?
*rubs hands together, cackling with glee*
Remember ‘Ed 209′? I can do better.
Bishop on June 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Ha! MB4 nails it. And MB4 often irritates the hell out of me :)
Buy Danish on June 3, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Why don’t you take your BS over to Dr. Phil? I’m sure he cares/
Knucklehead on June 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Don’t be so “unattractive”.
This is the Dr. Ann Freud’s Psycho Hour, so pay attention.
Bishop on June 3, 2009 at 11:51 PM
I’ve argued with many a leftist, and McVeigh always comes to the surface quickly when the topic of terrorism comes up. Now, most American leftists will use him to paint the militia movement, which isn’t fair…but most European seem to believe he was a extremist Christian which is flat out false. It would be interesting to see exactly how they come to that conclusion.
Oh, and speaking of terrorism, has Obama condemned his mentor, Mr Ayers yet? No?
18-1 on June 3, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Liberal ignorance is a topic I like to harp on, but this one in particular always annoys me.
Who originally asked for an army from Catholic Europe, and why did he want it?
For bonus points, what were those progressive muslims doing at the same time in Armenia?
18-1 on June 3, 2009 at 11:56 PM
You would make a lousy journalist. We are trying to determine the relationship between obviously Christianist terrorists like McVeigh and Hatewing Republicans, and you come along with your rethuglican talking points jammed into the ditto-tubes you call ears.
/MSM Reporter
TMK on June 3, 2009 at 11:58 PM
That’s odd. That is the exact same wording that was on the divorce papers I was served with by my last 6, now ex-wives. Reason for requesting divorce: He irritates the hell out of me..
MB4 on June 3, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Oh, and one more point, Andalusia is often held up as an example of tolerant Islam versus those intolerant Christians.
One of the crimes that would get you executed in Andalusia was if you professed Christianity and one of your parents was a Muslim. There were others along the same line…but this stood out to me in the recent argument the press had about how Islam would view Obama’s upbringing.
18-1 on June 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM
I suggest that you just skip over my posts.
That’s what I do with people who actually annoy me.
It works.
AnninCA on June 4, 2009 at 12:05 AM
I hate to admit it but she used to be one of my staff. Strictly an entry level trainee position mind you. I only hired her because of, well, because of her last name, which turned out to be false anyway. I had to let her go because she kept pilfering from my drug cabinet. Thousand of dollars worth of drugs missing each week, I just couldn’t afford the overhead.
Sigmund on June 4, 2009 at 12:07 AM
I see ad hominem posts are about the best now?
Too bad. The issue is actually interesting.
AnninCA on June 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM
***face palm***
A junkie troll LMAO!! Now I know who she really is. Thanks for tip, she really is warped, isn’t she?
Knucklehead on June 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Sigmund on June 4, 2009 at 12:07 AM
A little psychoanalysis before hiring might have saved you some trouble. Not trying to give you advice on how to do your job, just sayin’.
Bishop on June 4, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Well, she did claim to be a relative and you know what they say, the cobbler’s children are always the worst shod. Believe me, I will be more careful next time.
Sigmund on June 4, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Did you ever think that maybe it was 90%easierer on them to understand and recover when they were in college than if they had been in preschool? Give yourself some credit for waiting until they were old and mature enough to recover, some people never do.
Dollayo on June 4, 2009 at 12:41 AM
Oh, I can never skip over yours. You’re the most anti-Republican Republican I’ve ever seen comments from. And I’ve never seen you write a crtical word about the other side. You’re a very interesting “Republican”.
Me, I’m a former Republican nutjob Christian who couldn’t find a safe corner in your big tent.
Thanks for pointing the way.
hawkdriver on June 4, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Did Allah just come out of the closet in this post? or was that a reference to a gay relative? hmmmm
Drunk Report on June 4, 2009 at 12:49 AM
It’s the “Quote Of The Day”. It’s a quote. It’s not AP.
jgapinoy on June 4, 2009 at 12:54 AM
No, but your post challenges my guilt.
Thanks.
AnninCA on June 4, 2009 at 1:10 AM
I’m not GOP. I voted ONCE in 30 years for GOP.
ONCE.
It may never happen again. :)
AnninCA on June 4, 2009 at 1:15 AM
Don’t mind me asking but when was that? Was it Reagan, or someone else?
And when it comes to AA with small arms: you either have to have the whole neighborhood wait in ambush or simply avoid the helicopter.
Just got back from watching Terminator Salvation in case you didn’t notice.
Chaz706 on June 4, 2009 at 1:23 AM
Ann, that church that kicked out the woman for divorce (unless you just made that up)doesn’t know its Scripture. Divorce is accepted, by Jesus Himself, if there has been “marital infidelity”.
Buford Gooch on June 4, 2009 at 1:25 AM
***Applause***
Someone’s read his bible!
Chaz706 on June 4, 2009 at 1:36 AM
This particular “Quote of the day” is from James Kirchick in a WSJ article. Allahpundit is not quoting himself. Click the blue link to the original article.
petunia on June 4, 2009 at 1:37 AM
I have had it with the slander from the anti-life camp!
Enough is enough.
I don’t know about anyone else from the pro-life side, but I am getting a bit fed up with these pro-abortion ghouls slandering us by making it seem like we’re all a bunch of “anti-choice, terrorist extremists”.
I am nothing but a low level blogger with a very modest audience, but I wish someone with a little more recognition would get up on a soapbox and put these people in their place once and for all. Being non-violent is one thing, but we don’t have to sit here and be nice about it when we are being slandered and called a bunch of nutjob killers. I am sick of it.
I am sick of the way websites like The Daily Kos, RealityCheck, NOW, and several other left wing pro-abortion organizations have the gall to say that we all somehow are indirectly responsible for Tiller’s murder. Will someone please tell these people where to stick it?
I think I can safely say I speak for the mainstream pro-lifers when I say that none of us wanted to see George Tiller murdered. We wanted instead to see him have a change of heart. To one day wake up a changed man. Imagine reading a headline that says “Dr. George Tiller Quits Performing Abortions; Joins Pro-life Camp”. Yes. I know. Miracles like this seem to only happen in fictional stories like Dickens “Christmas Carol”. An overnight enlightening experience that makes a man change for the better. But it could have happened. Now, we’ll never know.
But I will not be branded an extremist or a terrorist supporter and I honestly feel that everyone involved in the pro-life movement needs to stand up to these accusations and say “How dare you? Shut your mouth!”
Freedom of speech is one thing. Slanderous accusations is another. I am really getting angry here. Kim Gandy from NOW, you want a piece of me? You want to have the DHS add my name to a terrorist list just because I have an opinion that Tiller’s clinic was a baby murder mill? Can I have a website called ExposePlannedParenthood.com and not have to worry about some pig like you sending the FBI to my house? You just send them over, dear. Send them over.
Ms. Gandy, ma’am, with all due respect you have some set of brass. You really do.
And Obama doesn’t seem to care about the U.S. soldier William Long who was gunned down by a Muslim terrorist in Arkansas… (probably one of those brainless politically-clueless morons who voted for him in the first place) as much as he does for the abortionist Tiller.
And look at who really needs a reality check. Here’s the latest line of crap spewing from that pro-abortion site:
It is the rhetoric of the militant wing of the anti-choice movement itself that is the unindicted co-conspirator in Dr. Tiller’s assassination.
Antiabortion domestic terrorism is linked to the radical militia movement that promotes “Biblical justice” rationales for murdering abortion providers while celebrating those responsible for the violent clashes as “heroes of the faith.”
One of the most contentious issues now in the news, in the aftermath of the assassination of Dr. George Tiller, is how much moral culpability the anti-choice movement bears for motivating the man who took Dr. Tiller’s life.
Yeah… get a clue, ladies!
BillyKess on June 4, 2009 at 1:41 AM
In the case of a woman’s infidelity, yes. Where exactly are you finding the authority for women to divorce?
In fact, this supposedly real woman falls into the “has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him” category. Paul clearly explains why wives must stay with scum like a sodomite-thief.
TMK on June 4, 2009 at 1:48 AM
Chaz706 on June 4, 2009 at 1:36 AM
Every day, three chapters, for the last twelve years or so.
Buford Gooch on June 4, 2009 at 1:50 AM
These are the words of James Kirchick not Allahpundit. This is the “quote” of the day.
Dollayo on June 4, 2009 at 1:50 AM
TMK on June 4, 2009 at 1:48 AM
So, you think homosexual sex isn’t marital infidelity?
Buford Gooch on June 4, 2009 at 1:51 AM
It certainly is, but there is no authorization for women to initiate divorce for any reason anywhere in Scripture, unless you have some crazy new translation I’ve never seen.
TMK on June 4, 2009 at 1:54 AM
TMK on June 4, 2009 at 1:54 AM
Try reading Matthew 12 and Mark 10. You have to read the whole Bible, not just small pieces of it.
Buford Gooch on June 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM
And that’s NIV. Do you consider that “some crazy new translation”?
Buford Gooch on June 4, 2009 at 1:59 AM
I’m sorry, bad memory. I should look things up before posting them. That’s Matthew 19, not Matthew 12.
Buford Gooch on June 4, 2009 at 2:01 AM
First, I think you meant Matt 19 and Mark 10 (and Luke 16)
1) Men who divorce wives who commited no sexual immorality and then remarry are adulterers.
2) Men who marry divorced women are adulterers.
1) Men who divorce wives and then remarry are adulterers.
2) Women who divorce and remarry are adulterers.
1) Men who divorce wives and then remarry are adulterers.
2) Men who marry divorced women are adulterers.
Please show me where women are authorized to divorce in any of those verses.
TMK on June 4, 2009 at 2:10 AM
Those quotes could be taken to mean that adultery is only committed once remarriage takes place. It doesn’t specify divorce only.
OldEnglish on June 4, 2009 at 4:03 AM
These were the passages he claimed authorized women to divorce, not me.
Besides the two accounts of Jesus by Matt which state an adulterous wife is the only acceptable exemption for a man to remarry, there is only condemnation of divorce, and zero authorization for women to divorce.
I’ve heard many theological feminists throw “what if he’s X” as a good reason to divorce, which is easily countered with “call a cop,” because “he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.” Last time I checked, assault is still a crime. Sadly, buggery and adultery are no longer crimes (even though it still violates a state-administered contract and endagers the health of the wronged spouse), but theft of jewelry still is.
TMK on June 4, 2009 at 4:39 AM
What, no open thread for Obama’s speech.
So far, sounds like he’s overstating Islam accomplishment.
Partnership between American and Islam? His job is to combat stereotypes of Islam?
BuckeyeSam on June 4, 2009 at 6:20 AM
Obamateurism of the Day
In his speech he just mentioned girls who wear the “hajib”.
Er…that’s Hijab, Mr President.
“Hajib” is Arabic for a government official.
These are not popular attire in any country!
uptight on June 4, 2009 at 6:29 AM
Quixhotic! These “progressive” newsies and politicos have sold their sordid souls to the devil — aka Mohahamad/BO. To expect those sex, drug, alcohol, and lefty besotted minds to give fair credit to Judeo-Christian morality, would explode what mush remains in their numb skulls. It’ll take another 911 before we can hope for 6 months of contrition from that bunch of anti-American cocoNUTs!
“Let’s Roll”
On Watch on June 4, 2009 at 6:49 AM
Krauthammer is absolutely right on this. Look at how long it took Obama to even acknowledge a dead soldier in Arkansas. Disgraceful.
Terrye on June 4, 2009 at 7:01 AM
Of course Islamic terrorists are totally different than an domestic terrorist. But a domestic terrorist is still a TERRORIST. Don’t try and defend some Christian nut job. I’m sure Operation Rescue supported and financed him too. Their bombers just like Islamic terrorists. They hate just like Islamic terrorist, they justify their actions just like Islamic terrorists. Their cold blooded just like Islamic terrorists, they do it in the name of religeon, just like Islamic terrorists. The only difference is the scale of their actions.
athensboy on June 4, 2009 at 7:17 AM
You are sure of it? You better bring that evidence to law enforcement. I think maybe they should consider suing you.
The scale of it? You mean like thousands of deaths versus 4 or 5. Ok now I understand. /s
CWforFreedom on June 4, 2009 at 7:27 AM
Radical Islam aspires to destroy American society.
Conservative Christians seek to preserve American society as it has been.
The Left wants to change American society…in their way, to destroy it, and rebuild it to their aspirations.
Which of the first two do you think is more in line with the Left’s desires?
snickelfritz on June 4, 2009 at 7:31 AM
Wow, you are one warped human being. I feel sorry for your parents who no doubt are still stuck financing your dysfunctional lifestyle. I wonder if science will ever be able to determine the environmental or biological factors that created defectives like you. It is a worldwide disease so I would not be surprised to find out that there was some kind of environmental cause, some seemingly innocent product that is still not suspected, some ingredient in soap or some common food preservative. Some humans are immune and some are affected horribly.
peacenprosperity on June 4, 2009 at 7:36 AM
THANK GOD FOR THE CRUSADES AND PEOPLE LIKE CHARLES MARTEL!!
at least at one time we had the guts to fight the plague of islam. we sure could use Martel here today.
otherwise we’d all be muslim now.
this is a millenia old war between islam and all that is not islam….our choices are fight or submit.
right4life on June 4, 2009 at 7:38 AM
You don’t think 0bama could openly criticize a Muslim convert on the eve of his great speech to the “Muslim World,” do you? Of course he had to keep it low-key. And all his reporter friends were rattling on about Tiller, so who’s gonna ask anyway? Teeny little paper in Pvt. Long’s hometown, maybe.
Quisp on June 4, 2009 at 7:39 AM
It should — but it won’t (see, e.g., idiotic comment from athensboy, above).
AZCoyote on June 4, 2009 at 7:58 AM
Muslim shoots Christian in San Diego Ca on June 3rd 2009, the religion of peices bringing the love of Islam to a community near you.
doriangrey on June 4, 2009 at 7:59 AM
Yes, in a fight in a bar.
DrSteve on June 4, 2009 at 8:18 AM
And that sir obviously makes the Muslims actions soooo acceptable…
doriangrey on June 4, 2009 at 8:23 AM
heywaitaminute….I thought Muslims aren’t supposed to drink al-kee-hol…
ladyingray on June 4, 2009 at 8:38 AM
They get a pass on that if they are about to kill some infidels.
Remember that the 9/11 terrorists visited a strip club.
Disturb the Universe on June 4, 2009 at 8:42 AM
Ah…a get out of hell free card….
ladyingray on June 4, 2009 at 8:46 AM
Sorry, I can see I was a little too terse in what I wrote. I’m not saying being in a bar means you’re fair game (but gee, thanks for the charitable interpretation). We have a guy, in a bar, purported to be a Muslim by the victim.
DrSteve on June 4, 2009 at 8:48 AM
No, I think it was Tedddy Roosevelt.
bw222 on June 4, 2009 at 8:53 AM
You weren’t being terse, you were being a tool. Has it occurred to you to notice what happens to those who claim that they were assaulted by a Muslim? It’s not a free pass by any stretch of the imagination, it usually results in a vicious assault by first the MFMSM and then more assaults by the Muslim community.
In fact claiming to be assaulted by a Muslim is such a great idea the MFMSM pisses their own pants at the thought of offending Muslims.
doriangrey on June 4, 2009 at 8:57 AM
Krathammer hits the mark. How many politicians have made any reference to the disparity in media coverage between Tiller’s murder and the Little Rock murder? To the beswt of my knowledge, only one – Sarah Palin.
bw222 on June 4, 2009 at 8:59 AM
genital mutilation is cultural, not religious. There are 57 muslim states in this world, stretching from morocco to indonesia. Only in certain African countries will you find that practice.
too often cultural nuances are projected onto the predominant religion. the argument made in the above post is still basically sound, but the genital mutilation part really doesn’t help.
ernesto on June 4, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Although I’m from a different planet than yourself, I not only agree with your statement, I have also been saying much the same about many of the barbaric acts in some parts of the world that happen to be Muslim. Culture first, then religion.
OldEnglish on June 4, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Reason 1,867,362 why religion is stupid nonsense.
LevStrauss on June 4, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Why rare? If it’s a right, then why hope people don’t use it as often as possible? This is equivocation.
Am I the only one who didn’t know?
Akzed on June 4, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Start with irrelevance. The man who shot the abortionist is not a domestic terrorist. He’s a murderer, and should be punished, but he didn’t blow up property or attack innocent people unrelated to his complaint. He murdered someone who did something he hated. Directly.
The death penalty should apply, even though the man he murdered was a scumbag.
Add to your irrelevance false accusations and presumption of guilt.
Operation Rescue doesn’t have bombers.
You seem filled with hate. That doesn’t mean everyone else is.
Well, that, and the fact that Operation Rescue wasn’t involved, that the action was murder, not terrorism, that antiabortion Christians don’t advocate violence, or the forced conversion of those who don’t agree with them, or even that it’s OK to hate.
I’m guessing logic isn’t your strong suit. But hate and rage can only take you so far.
tom on June 4, 2009 at 2:33 PM
“I wouldn’t kill an abortionist myself, but I wouldn’t want to impose my moral values on others. No one is for shooting abortionists. But how will criminalizing men making difficult, often tragic, decisions be an effective means of achieving the goal of reducing the shootings of abortionists?
“Following the moral precepts of liberals, I believe the correct position is: If you don’t believe in shooting abortionists, then don’t shoot one,” -Ann Coulter.
Akzed on June 4, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Ann, its 100 to 1 ration of leftist hate to rightiest hate and you know that.
How many did you have?
Sapwolf on June 4, 2009 at 5:17 PM
I was with some of the OR people in South Bend. Believe me, these people are PRO-LIFE. None of these people would even think for a second they were justified to actually murder another human being, even an abortionist.
Its the difference between those that believe the ends justify the means (libs) and those who believe the ends do NOT justify the means (cons).
Good people. They walk it. A*sholes like Roeder and Bledsoe DON’T.
Sapwolf on June 4, 2009 at 5:21 PM
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