Obamateurism of the Day; Update: Flashback on Turkey speech

posted at 8:05 am on June 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

I actually had another one teed up for this morning, but this late-breaking entry has to take precedence.  In preparing to give a speech in Cairo to the “Muslim world” (as dictator Hosni Mubarak sees it, anyway), Barack Obama told French newspaper Le Monde that the US has so many Muslims, it would be one of the largest Muslim nations in the world, if we counted the US in that group:

The president said the United States and other parts of the Western world “have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam.”

“And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,” Mr. Obama said. “And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.”

Well, actually, we wouldn’t, as Roger Simon makes clear:

Is that the USA of the 57 states?

I guess it depends on what your definition of “one of” is. According to Wikipedia, the US ranks thirty-eighth with a Muslim population of some 4.5 million (about one and half percent of our population). Indonesia is first at over two hundred and seven million.

We can’t blame TOTUS for this math mistake.  What was Obama thinking?  Obviously he wanted to impress his Muslim audiences ahead of his arrival, but in an area that in ages past significantly advanced mathematics, this won’t do it.  They know the difference between their own population and the number of Muslims in the US and can figure out a simple ranking system.

Wasn’t this guy supposed to be brilliant?  So far, he’s the intellectual analog to Chevy Chase’s impersonation of Gerald Ford.

Update: The Right Scoop has this reaction from Fox:

When Obama was in Turkey, he had this to say, which the Huffington Post cheered:

“One of the great strengths of the United States,” the President said, “is … we have a very large Christian population — we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values.”

Maybe he should have left it at that.

Update II: The CIA Factbook puts the Muslim population of the US at around 1.8 million, not 4.5 million, as Wikipedia does. Do you think that Obama ever asked the CIA or the Census Bureau for those figures? (via QandO)

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Cool! This is the information I provided yesterday in the ‘muslim roots’ comments.
You can watch Obama say it at this link by pressing on the video and forward to 3:20.

So, small error, Obama didn’t tell it to ‘Le Monde’ Newspaper, but to Canal +, a TV station.

FrenchguyinTaiwan on June 3, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Update II: The CIA Factbook…

The C I A? What does this CIA group do?

strictnein on June 3, 2009 at 9:42 AM

“Obama Man can ’cause he’s mesmerizing and can make manure taste good…”
– Schnitt Show parody

rockbend on June 3, 2009 at 9:44 AM

He’s just trying to find common ground with the Muslims. Hey, we’re a Muslim nation too. America is not a Christian country. Is this the change O Bots thought they were going to get?

Kissmygrits on June 3, 2009 at 9:46 AM

If there are only 1.8 million Muslims in the U.S., they must all live in the Twin Cities. Around here, I get the sense that Muslims make up 25% of our population.

Grafted on June 3, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Perhaps if Obama goes out for another burger, he’ll run into someone from the CIA who can explain to His-All-Knowinginess that his job is to gather facts for the CIA and publish in a factbook. In fact, sir, you might just have one laying around the oval office. But Rahm probably doesn’t let Barry touch it.

gobblemom on June 3, 2009 at 9:59 AM

This really is scary sh**. Once a country is declared “Muslim lands” then according to the Muslims (I think it’s actually in the Koran) they own it in perpetuity. That’s one of the (many) reasons they don’t recognize the existance of Israel. After the Romans wiped out Israel there was no one living there except poor Jews until the Palestinians moved in. Hence “Palestine” is a Muslim nation.

This really scares me.

crazy_legs on June 3, 2009 at 9:59 AM

There are no words left to describe this man’s epic incompetency naïveté appalling self aggrandizement narcissism delusions

Forget it.

You’ll find the US filed under “screwed” in Webster’s.

tree hugging sister on June 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM

If there are only 1.8 million Muslims in the U.S., they must all live in the Twin Cities. Around here, I get the sense that Muslims make up 25% of our population.

Grafted on June 3, 2009 at 9:50 AM

We are importing them at an alarming rate. They come from Kenya, Somalia, and Bosnia. All are refugees from war torn states. They do not belong in the USA. They have no interest in assimilating to the general American culture.

daesleeper on June 3, 2009 at 10:14 AM

The CIA number probably leaves out the illegal aliens.

tommuck on June 3, 2009 at 10:18 AM

We are importing them at an alarming rate. They come from Kenya, Somalia, and Bosnia. All are refugees from war torn states. They do not belong in the USA. They have no interest in assimilating to the general American culture.

daesleeper on June 3, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Yep. The US has no history of muslims here, at all, but in the last 20 years we’ve been bringing them in like they’re going out of style. It just boggles the mind.

progressoverpeace on June 3, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Do you think that Obama ever asked the CIA or the Census Bureau for those figures? (via QandO)

Maybe he’ll bump into an analyst at a burger joint and ask them.

cs89 on June 3, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Don’t rely on Wikipedia. It’s not an authoritative source, since anyone can add & subtract facts from it. I’d go with the CIA Factbook any day.

Rosmerta on June 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Yep. The US has no history of muslims here, at all, but in the last 20 years we’ve been bringing them in like they’re going out of style. It just boggles the mind.

progressoverpeace on June 3, 2009 at 10:24 AM

I declare that muslims are “out of style”. Can we stop importing them now?

Muslims are the new ‘che-chic’ for the left.

The statement – “educate ourselves more effectively on islam” – that sounds like he wants us to just drink the islam kool-aid and not learn the truth.

The mask is starting to fall, the real agenda is finally being exposed. Expect more statements (and actions) supporting islam from Bubblehead in the near future.

Timothy S. Carlson on June 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Apparently it wasn’t enough of a wake-up call for the 60 million+ who voted for this idiot.

AZCoyote on June 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Or the rest of the hypnotized idiots who chose not to get involved. Add them to the mix, and we are severely out numbered.

csdeven on June 3, 2009 at 11:30 AM

progressoverpeace on June 3, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Actually I think there has been a (very small) Islamic population in our country all along. An all-but-invisible ingredient in our “melting pot” due to low numbers, but present nevertheless.

cs89 on June 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM

I wonder in Wolfie will bring that despicable leftest turd Carville back on to explain ChimpyO’s insistence that we are a large Muslim nation?

csdeven on June 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM

The C I A? What does this CIA group do?

strictnein on June 3, 2009 at 9:42 AM

They lie to us all the time.

Well, that’s what Nancy Pelosi said.

No wonder Obama doesn’t use them as a reference.

Loxodonta on June 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Actually I think there has been a (very small) Islamic population in our country all along. An all-but-invisible ingredient in our “melting pot” due to low numbers, but present nevertheless.

cs89 on June 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Infinitesimal. I was speaking in terms of measurable numbers that had any impact. I also discounted the black muslims (Americans) that started appearing earlier, but they were not really considered part of the muslim world, by muslims, until the recent imports of measurable numbers of muslims.

progressoverpeace on June 3, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Relying on Stinkipedia for facts?

corona on June 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Obama was trying to impress “Le Monde” with more than “merci beaucoup”, because France has about 6 million Muslims.

Since Obama was elected, we’re not a Christian nation, and now we’re supposedly “one of the largest Muslim nations in the world” (although with a smaller Muslim population than such powerhouses as Senegal, Ghana, and Ivory Coast). Maybe we become a Muslim nation if our President is Muslim.

By the way, India has the third largest Muslim population in the world, although it is only 14% Muslim. Does that make India a Muslim nation, even though there are far more Hindus in India than Muslims?

Steve Z on June 3, 2009 at 12:53 PM

It took ten thousand years for human kind to develop a near perfect system of goverance.How long will it take the uninformed and irrational to destoy it with their fawning adoration of a treacherous tool of the death cult called Islam?

Obama was right about one thing,Americans need to increase their understanding of Islam.The fact is most people in this country have no idea what Islam is.They think it is “just another religious group,like Christians or Jews.They cannot conceive of a religion(?) based on hate ,having been brought up with Judeo-Christian values,and dumbed down by the liberal educational system.

DDT on June 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM

islam is slavery. Burqas are slave rags. Slavery and freedom cannot exist side by side.

Know islam? I know islam. islam is a lie and Truth is killing it. Learn about islam…defend freedom from that slavery. islam creeps…it begins with a footbath and ends in slavery to ayatoilets and imams…religious police and the death of freedom of any kind.
Read the koran…see the hatred and death therein for yourself. Trust the evidence of your own eyes, not the words of any man…except mohammed himself.

Army Brat on June 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM

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