Just sayin’ …

Hopefully the tour won’t be a bus tour – because Charlie stands a hazard of being thrown under it. Kinda happens a lot with Obama’s relatives of non-Kenyan ancestry.

hmmm…except Good ole’ Maggie!

Talk about women to look up to. Britain gave us Margaret and Elizabeth. Take that Hillary and Pelosi!!

As to forgetting to invite the Queen, I’m not the least surprised. Our governments are no longer capable of respect for things owed respect.

To HRH, I pay my respects to her service in WWII. Even if our yutz of a president will not.

Whoops…. Correction Time: Wipers is actually in Belgium not France!!

lexhamfox on June 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Correct and the Menin Gate commemorates all of the Commonwealth war dead with no known grave from the fighting in Belgium, not just the British.

There are similar monuments in France such as the Vimy Memorial.

maverick muse on June 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM

France still owes us a ton of money methinks.

There was more than oil spilled on that beach President Apologies.

portlandon on June 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Some of that spilled belonged to my uncle, a few miles beyond the beach. He is buried near there. I was old enough to understand what was happening when the chaplain arrived at my grandparent’s door to advise my aunt, with me standing behind her.

It turns my stomach to have this POTUS represent us there considering his total lack of understanding of what those years were like, and his apparent distain for the sacrifices made by so many young men who never had the chance to grow any older. They knew what they gave all for, while Obama will never reach that level of perception.

The day after almost 800 Lancasters bombed Dresden, over 300 Flying Fortresses bombed the city. Had the weather been clearer, U.S. bombers were scheduled to bomb the city, first.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 3, 2009 at 6:01 PM

So he’s not going to apologize for the British firebombing, but for the US rubbing it in the following day? Maybe he should apologize for our destroying all those lovely pillboxes the German Workers Party had erected on the shores of France, too. It takes a lot of time and craftsmanship to pour that much concrete, you know.

SC.Charlie on June 3, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Good point. There are a lot of great websites memorializing the victims and telling what happened to them that have sprung up.

Uncle Payne better watch his back, this trip is probably to shut him up about the “playing politics” statement. Any more from the bad Uncle and the bus will get cranking.

ProudinNC on June 3, 2009 at 6:47 PM

“My uncle the typical white allied war criminal…”

The March April edition of Foreign Affairs has an excellent detailed essay comparing the differences and results of how Germany and Japan dealt with their actions during the war and the impact that has had on their relationship with their neighbors. Koreans still see Japan as a bigger threat than their northern kin or the Chinese. It has very real implications today.

Clearly the raids on Japan and Germany failed to utterly demoralize the civilian and military despite the wholesale destruction of entire cities… they wanted to and did keep fighting.

lexhamfox on June 3, 2009 at 6:39 PM

That’s what they say, however, I don’t believe it. There is a big difference when you are deep in your cozy bunker as opposed to getting boiled alive in the basement of your apt. house.

Those that committed the atrocities are all dying, just like our veterans. What I am always amazed about is the Japanese atrocities that seem to have been forgotten, but everyone remembers our dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/01/obamas-great-uncle-says-president-visiting-concentration-camp-site-political/

Asked if Obama would be traveling in his footsteps, Payne said: “I don’t buy that. … This is a trip that he chose, not because of me I’m sure, but for political reasons.”

He said Obama also might be trying to improve his “standing” with Chancellor Angela Merkel, since “she gave him a hard time during his campaign and also afterwards.”

And recalling Obama’s campaign trail gaffe:

“I was quite surprised when the whole thing came up and Barack talked about my war experiences in Nazi Germany. We had never talked about that before,” Payne said. “Of course it came out immediately that he was wrong since there are enough people in America who know that Auschwitz is in the East and that the camp was liberated by the Red Army.”

When you read the article as a whole, it’s clear he doesn’t dislike The One, but it also seems as if he doesn’t have a lot of respect for him.

Clearly the raids on Japan and Germany failed to utterly demoralize the civilian and military despite the wholesale destruction of entire cities… they wanted to and did keep fighting. The exception would have to be the A-Bomb attacks on Japan which did demoralize the public (it wasn’t until US forces got there that things started moving again). German war production was pretty resilient which is why they ended up going after key components to slow it all down…

I imagine their response wouldn’t be much different to the attacks on London’s East End during WW2 or the attack on New York on 9-11… homes and families getting attacked tends to stiffen resolve rather than break it. But whatever… they started it.

I’m especially unapologetic as it was the Brits who bombed Dresden. But I won’t be at all surpriesd if The One doesn’t feel limited to apologizing for the actions of any one nation.

Blacklake on June 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM

I know. I’m Canadian. However seeing as Ogabe will be in Dresden on the 5th, I’m pretty sure he won’t be able to keep his mouth shut on the subject. “…and to show you how sorry I am I sent back a bust of The War Criminal back to Britain….” or something like that.

Blake on June 3, 2009 at 6:07 PM

I’ve often wondered what the Japanese and the Germans thought, when hundreds upon hundreds of heavy bombers were razing their cities – were they still grinning – like they had been in the early years of the war, when they waged war and assumed victory?

Of course, my questions are rhetorical. They had to be in utter awe, at the vengeance they had reaped.

Blacklake on June 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on June 3, 2009 at 6:01 PM

FYI:

http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm” rel=”nofollow”>Dresden

I’m especially unapologetic as it was the Brits who bombed Dresden. But I won’t be at all surpriesd if The One doesn’t feel limited to apologizing for the actions of any one nation.

Incidentally, tomorrow is the 67th anniversary of the Battle of Midway. Does Obama have any plans to apologize to Japan for the sinking of their aircraft carriers?

Blacklake on June 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM

The day after almost 800 Lancasters bombed Dresden, over 300 Flying Fortresses bombed the city. Had the weather been clearer, U.S. bombers were scheduled to bomb the city, first.