maverick muse on June 4, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Music begins with silence.

Learning begins with a question.

Life can be very difficult and cacophonous.

Not all questions can be answered in this life.

Then let me learn from you. Bruckner is one of those hidden magnificent greats. He never meant to “compete” but to compose. And the marvel of his music is his extension of Beethoven via the Lisztian New German School.

(Yes, I’m sniping Wagner, having read their complete correspondences and knowing how deeply he injured on every level his best (and only) friend.)

During my youthful summer studies at an Academy, introduction to Mahler via friends performing his symphonies live. I remember them tagging Mahler as the orchestral member’s symphonist, their favorite. Mahler and Bruckner were not the composers featured in American Southwestern orchestras during the ’60s other than LA, SLC and Houston or Dallas. And I enjoyed climbing trees much more than studying music for as long as I could before devoting so many years in the practice room to earn my higher education.

That Bruckner was Mahler’s teacher is extraordinary, I’m still fascinated by the imagination of classroom instruction. I loved compositional studies with my mentor whose talents included inspiration. Bruckner’s depth exemplifies his contemplations. I always felt badly for the Christian faith to have sold itself for sophistry, specifically the censoring of the metaphysical by the tangible. Compared with Bruckner, despite depressions and disillusionment with society, Liszt’s idealism remained intact within his Caritas motto; and his sanity prevailed via devotion to liturgical music in his final years as a monk. The same applies to Bruckner, I believe, except that Bruckner was not the cosmopolitan Romantic Hero, but more in kind with the sorrowful young Werther, though sensing better than to take his own life. Religion aside, Bruckner’s distinction from Schumann as another young Romantic was that Bruckner never married, so was not betrayed as Robert was by Clara. Bruckner’s solitude in life was not necessarily by choice at first, though undoubtedly was by choice after maturity. There was no one who understood him, and the constant efforts to fit in must have been absolutely excruciating since he never developed social skills, even in conversation.

Though you understand Bruckner with full appreciation, Loxodonta, you have the well honed skill of verbal communication that connects you with others. And you have many here in this online community who admire your thoughts and appreciate your own existence.

Now it can be told: Obama has “Muslim roots”

During a conference call in preparation for President Obama’s trip
to Cairo, Egypt, where he will address the Muslim world, deputy
National Security Adviser for Strategic……

Since she has PR background/upbringing BUT she was not born and raised in PR, I consider her a J-Lo.

ProudPalinFan on June 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM

That’s right. All women of Puerto Rican descent are JLo. /s

Hey, nice article about you: http://gawker.com/5273994/finally-someone-brave-enought-to-call-sonia-sotomayor-j+lo

lolwut on June 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Hey I wanna take credit from that! I twittered that to conservatives there. I am from PR and trust me she has not made it to the cover pages online. Have to dig around to find stuff of her. So far, nothing from a journo there, only news articles translated from AP/EFE.

Since she has PR background/upbringing BUT she was not born and raised in PR, I consider her a J-Lo.

Today, Obama said the U.S. is one of the largest Muslim countries. First off, with a muslim population of 3 million or so, we’re not that large. I would guess that we’re not in the top 10. In fact, a quick check shows we’re not in the top FIFTY of muslim populations.

Secondly, he recently rejected the notion that America is a Christian nation, or a Jewish nation or a Muslim Nation. Does he take back that rejection?

hawksruleva on June 3, 2009 at 2:25 PM

That Teleprompter of his says the darnedest things. We are a Nation of 3 million Muslims; the rest are infidels.

You know He’s gonna do it. You know He wants to. You know He is gonna be gifted with a nice cloth for a Muslim ceremony in a mosque (don’t mean to offend Muslims, on the contrary!) but I despise hipocrisy.

That is what that man stands for. To be a bold two-face liar. We need a “V” person to undo what has been done to our country.

Debbie Schlussel has done the best in depth reporting of the radical islamic scene in the Detroit/Dearborn area where I live. She is an angry reporter

Why some people consider her a kook is a mystery. So far, she has scored some major scoops

You can read F.A.I.R.’s criticism of Debbie and you can read her own list of recent accomplishments

entagor on June 4, 2009 at 3:26 AM

Yes, and as Confucius once said, “Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without”.

She has a better understanding of islam than those who think it is just another church denomination, and she is highly sensitive as a Jew to the threat to her people

I think she is an asset to the blogger scene. Someone with less anger, and less intelligence would have folded long ago. She has taken on a movement that does not tolerate people like herself.

Why some people consider her a kook is a mystery. So far, she has scored some major scoops

She is more Cassandra than Colbert, as the MSM has tried to diminish her effect

You can read F.A.I.R.’s criticism of Debbie and you can read her own list of recent accomplishments

maverick muse on June 3, 2009 at 10:40 PM

So how did you become so familiar with Bruckner?

When I escaped from the place where I grew up, I went through the entire classical music section of a major library, several thousand records. Alphabetically by composer. I also read all their biographies, analyses, and histories on this topic. I identify with Bruckner very much.

“Spin”

In the wind that blows through the cosmos
Is a vibe pitched higher each day
And it drags to the edges the weak and the mad
Spinning faster and faster they say

But as Hesse put forth in Siddhartha
Those who internalize all
Will step to the middle of life’s dual paths
In mastery of their inner call

As the lost and extreme on the edges
Fall to sainthood or debauching style
I’ll follow the path of the gentle and meek
Everyday putting myself on trial

By Beto_Ochoa at Sweatin’ It Out
Thursday, April 16, 2009

Refresh yourself with Liszt, “Les Jeux d’Eau” annotated with John 4:14 in his manuscript.

So how did you become so familiar with Bruckner? Is he programmed a lot by the NY Philharmonic?

Bruckner commonly alternates between solo and tutti sections, as well as layering instruments to provide texture and show different subject groups

–a neoclassicist referencing Baroque Concerto Grosso compositional techniques.

I need to reflect on what I knew/know regarding spiritual element attributed per key, A Major optimistic examples.

I’ll listen to the music now.

On melancholy, would you consider a pet finch or canary, perhaps, to brighten your corner of the world? Mozart had his. Consider the sparrows, and how your Father in Heaven cares about you even more.

maverick muse on June 3, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Hey, I’m not sure if you’re pulling my leg with angst.

No.

Now dreary dawns the eastern light,
And fall of eve is drear,
And cold the poor man lies at night,
And so goes out the year.

– AE Housman

And it doesn’t help that the news is so often dreary, frightening or devoted to Obama worship. So, much like Bruckner, I turn to nature and music and my dear God for comfort and support. Perhaps my favorite passage from his symphonic output is the “sunrise code” of the first movement, Majestoso, of his 6th, starting at about 3:10 in this clip. The pulsing, vibrant main theme warmly explores every shade of tonality, brightening and rising, before getting clouded by darkness, only to quite suddenly and miraculously burst upward into a blazing, glorious, triumphant A Major, concluding in absolute certainty.

As to Nielsen’s use of the term, “Objektivering,” I believe he tended to write for instruments and groups of instruments as if they were expressing unique personalities or group characteristics, sometimes resulting in musical arguments and even warfare. Sort of like the commentators here at Hot Air.

I’ll be honest. I wish Obama were a practicing Muslim. He wouldn’t be so radial on abortion, and he’d end our foreign intervention in the Middle East, which is only perpetuating deficit spending and making us less safe.

Yeah, I’m a heretic here at Hotair.

MedSchoolCatholic on June 3, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Not quite what you think .

Hey, I’m not sure if you’re pulling my leg with angst. But if you’re hurting, I feel your pain metaphysically and literally. The news is enough to drive us crazy if we don’t determine on a goal to accomplish, another grassroots zeitgeist expression of disgusted disapproval with Obama’s presidency. /Took a spill walking the dog yesterday; she’s always been able to jerk me off balance, but has only succeeded 3 times in 13 years. Nothing broken, and the collarbone/shoulder pain is subsiding since yesterday, thank God my tendons and muscles are only bruised.

Lox, thanks for the Bruckner and Nielson musical references. It takes me time to research and listen to your musical quotations. Wow. And then to coordinate my response.

I’ve only touched on Bruckner to date, very much enjoying his work (music history exams, and then humble organ works for Mass). I recall his 9th’s Scherzo, and the story surrounding the “unfinished” attempt to complete it as Beethoven did with his CM choral conclusion.

The final accomplishment of Bruckner’s life was to be his Symphony No. 9 in D minor which he started in August 1887, and which he dedicated “To God the Beloved.” The first three movements were completed by the end of 1894, the Adagio alone taking 18 months to complete. Work was delayed by the composer’s poor health and by his compulsion to revise his early symphonies, and by the time of his death in 1896 he had not finished the last movement.

I knew he was a very tender and introverted personality, devout Catholic. I saw a BBC movie based on his life’s obsession with nature and numerology. I mistook him as Mahler’s contemporary, when it was Brahms now that I remember was his age. I didn’t realize that Bruckner taught Mahler, and that he made acquaintance with Liszt in the 1860s, only about a decade later than the “Young Romantics” born around 1810. Damn that Hanslick, ridiculing his symphonies as boa constrictors, making life so unbearable with mean spirited dogmatic “purist” criticism. What a boorish elitist man, Hanslick.

On the Great Dane, other than his name and chronologic placement, I don’t know his music.
Carl August Nielsen (9 June 1865 – 3 October 1931) was a conductor, violinist, and composer from Denmark.

“Archetypal embodiments of oneness and conflict respectively” makes an interesting introduction.

“Objektivering”
By this term Nielsen meant an aesthetic approach wherein the instruments, or the players operating them, are given leave to assert their individual intentions, as interpreted by the composer. At the time Nielsen was writing the Fifth Symphony, with its sometimes violent dialogue between the clarinet and the snare drum, he also produced the Wind Quintet, Op. 43 for a group of wind players whom he knew well personally. He resolved to write a concerto for each man, but completed only the ones for flute and clarinet. The latter (1928) immortalizes a clarinetist known for being irascible, and uses this character as a means of commenting on the anxious world condition at the time.
WIKI

“Objektivering”–I’m not sure I understand that. “The instruments, or the players operating them, are given leave to assert their individual intentions, as interpreted by the composer” sounds like double talk. The composer gives the performer/instrument the liberty to assert their own individual intentions according to what the composer interprets. The conclusion seems a better explanation of Objektivering (as an extension of programme music’s tradition): immortalizes a clarinetist known for being irascible, and uses this character as a means of commenting on the anxious world condition at the time. THAT is something that the Romantic musicians were fluent doing all along.

Yeah, I’m a heretic here at Hotair.

MedSchoolCatholic on June 3, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
- Mark Twain

Yeah, I’m a heretic here at Hotair.

Who cares if he’s Muslim, Christian, or atheist?

Totally agree. The problem is his actions versus his words.

I also agree with Justincase’s comments about the BC. Sorry, but it doesn’t pass the smell test. There is something being hidden and until BHO (we can use the middle initial this week) shows a certified copy of the long form B/C – I ain’t believing my lying eyes.

UPDATE 2: Debbie Schlussel cites a reputable survey by Pew that puts the number of Muslims in the US at 1.8 million. This would make it the 48th biggest Muslim country, after the above list plus France, Libya, Jordan, Israel, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Kyrgyzstan, Mauritania, Germany, Kuwait, Oman, Eritrea, Lebanon and Serbia and Montenegro – and just above Britain, which would be the 50th.

B Big

A Ass

M Mistake

A America

Its just too bad his name isn’t OMFBAMA

-Dave