CNN poll of Republicans: Huckabee 22, Palin 21, Romney 21
posted at 5:57 pm on June 2, 2009 by Allahpundit
They poll this every three months, always with the same large-ish margin of error (4.5 points), and thus far always with similar results. Namely, Huck, Mitt, and Sarahcuda bunched together at the head of the pack.
What makes this one noteworthy is how far Palin’s declined since February, when she led with 29 percent. The Levi/Bristol tabloid nonsense is taking its toll.
The poll indicates that 13 percent of Republicans would back former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in 2012, with 6 percent supporting former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. Ten percent of those questioned say they would most likely back someone else…
The poll’s release also comes as Romney’s recent schedule gives the impresison of a man intent on running for the White House again. On Monday, Romney criticized the Obama administration over national security at a speech sponsored by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. Friday he was the keynote speaker at a major Republican Party dinner in Virginia. He’s campaigned recently for GOP gubernatorial candidates in Virginia and New Jersey, and he’s a frequent guest on cable news programs and Sunday talk shows.
Asked Sunday about a bid in 2012, Romney told Fox News that “I’m not going to close that door” — although, he added, “I’m not going to walk through it either.”
Who benefited from Palin defectors? Er, not sure: Huck’s actually lost four points himself since the last poll while Mitt, ominously, remains stuck at 21 notwithstanding his financial acumen in an age of recession and his attempts to position himself as a party elder statement. Exit question: If Palin decides not to run, which of the remaining two will pick up the lion’s share of her supporters? The temptation is to say Huck because of her following among conservative Christians but I think that misunderstands the core of Palinmania. Her fans don’t love her because she’s a social con, they love her because they see her as a Jacksonian. And while superficially Huck is closer to that model than an urbane millionaire like Mitt, I think Huck’s reputation for being a big-government conservative, fairly or not, will haunt him going forward. My guess is that Romney will pick up the Palinistas if he runs. Which, let’s face it, he almost certainly will.
Update: Dude?
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Yes, they are. And rabid.
Concerning the main story here, who cares what the “detractors” who are saying the parents are “homophobes” think! Since when don’t parents have a right to decide who their 14 year old dates and/or hangs around??!!
Sterling Holobyte on May 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM
Of course it is. The media is nothing more than a useful tool. You don’t treat them with respect after they pretty much have become your propaganda operation. Willingly.
Happy Nomad on May 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM
Silly me for not including the obligatory “/”
Longing4Lincoln on May 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM
Well, Bill got his start as an actor.
Count to 10 on May 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM
And?????
ladyingray on May 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM
True.
But she may have had a bad reputation with those of her own age. I mean being known for having sex in public restrooms tends to lessen the appeal for a lotta people, even in today’s anything-goes world!
whatcat on May 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM
Whores are usually not treated that nicely by their pimps, so……
VegasRick on May 25, 2013 at 6:24 PM
What? School bathrooms with their cigarette butt burned toilet seats doesn’t mean romance to you? I was just noticing in the the lawyer write up that Jazz has as an update that it seems that a high school relationship must include sex. I date a bit and had several long term relationships that did not include sex. Have things changed so much today that it is now mandatory?
Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 6:29 PM
I didn’t mean your sentence, it was spot on, I was talking about my answer. It was a weird sentence that would be undecipherable without context.
Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 6:30 PM
That isn’t what people with aspirations of knighthood and a life outside of making gloves in Stratford did. If you’re really interested, I recommend Shakespeare an Ungentle Life by Katherine Duncan-Jones.
Happy Nomad on May 25, 2013 at 6:31 PM
I think they are talking about Mrs. Shakespeare.
Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 6:35 PM
I agree. There WILL be a tendency to go as she has, now that it’s public. It’s like a spring frost that kills a budding flower in place, or exposed light in a darkroom that fixes film at its stage of development. The public spotlight in such a situation is damaging. It’s child abuse, like gays in the Boy Scouts is child abuse or like teaching 5 year olds about same sex marriage is child abuse. Let kids be kids. Don’t make them take on adult sexual issues.
Paul-Cincy on May 25, 2013 at 6:44 PM
People are booking them for honeymoons these days, I guess.
I don’t intend this as mean, but I’ve never been overly impressed with Jazz’s ability when it comes to clear headed, factual analysis. I would include those to whom he links in forming his thinking in my underwhelmed-ness.
I suspect that a lot of HS boys would say “Yes!” and a lot of girls will feel that pressure & go along with it.
In HS, in my day, you didn’t want have a rep as a girl who “put out”. I think that’s changed to some degree, but there’s not the universal acceptance and acquiescence the lawyer posits. I write that off as just so much “guy talk” on how he wishes it were.
whatcat on May 25, 2013 at 6:52 PM
FIFY.
steebo77 on May 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM
Wanna throw a monkey-wrench into the “gay” rights angle that’s being played up this story? Mention the fact that the 15 year old victim’s mother is black and yell “RAAACIIISSTT!!”. That’ll make heads melt down.
whatcat on May 25, 2013 at 6:59 PM
The author is right, it is a crazy system here in Florida. I was a detective for years and watched scenarios play out along these lines a hundred times.
The only thing different here is it a lesbian situation. You can trust me from my experience, the State does not offer “outs” for young men having sex with girls if the ages are the same.
I cannot tell you how many sexually active 14yr or fifteen year olds file charges against the boyfriend after he breaks up with her or the parents file charges against the boyfriend when they get pissed off. I had one case where the parents KNEW and consented until the boyfriend broke it off with their daughter. THEN they filed charges and he got arrested.
The State will threaten a long sentence, settle for a lesser felony and mark the kid for life as an offender. Another example of the “unintended consequences” of the effort to protect kids from predators.
However, unlike England which first lowered the age of consent to sixteen and now wants to lower it to thirteen, we aren’t quite ready to just throw kids under the bus so old guys can get their jollies hammering young girls…or boys. (Trust me, I watched the debates years ago in Britain. It was sickening to see old men argue that sex between adults and young sixteen year olds was okay. Now they want thirteen. That country is screwed!)
This is a case of Political Correctness versus the law. If the older girl was a guy, we would not even hear about it. He’d just be ruined for life.
archer52 on May 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM
Yes. Which is why I was harping in the BSA threads about sexualizing children. The BSA and this is just taking us down this path further.
kim roy on May 25, 2013 at 7:20 PM
What? You had toilet seats at your school?
O_o
BlaxPac on May 25, 2013 at 7:21 PM
I’m with you. If you want people to be good adults, let them have the time to be children.
Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM
LOL!!!!
Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM
Shouldn’t the headline read
“Kaitlyn Hunt and the Juliet and Juliet problem”
VegasRick on May 25, 2013 at 7:33 PM
I was involved in a case once that involved a 14 year old girl and a defendant who said he never even met the girl. Took a while to figure out what was going on. The story was she had asked a teacher if having sex one time could lead to pregnancy or STDs, which led to further inquiry and her naming the defendant. The school counselor told her whoever had sex with her was going to jail, then told her she had to tell her parents and have them contact the school within 24 hours. So naturally she went straight to her boyfriend and they cooked up a scheme to frame the neighborhood geek. It didn’t fall apart until the trial. Turned out she didn’t come forward, she had been overheard discussing sex by a teacher and busted. Put a whole different light on the facts.
novaculus on May 25, 2013 at 7:35 PM
Fascinating that some people rush to her defense. I wonder how many 18 year old man-boys were so valiantly defended on charges of statuatory rape? How many 18 year old pedophiles caughtbuggering young boys had such sympathy?
Of course there is certain differences in the manner of Lesbian sex as compared to heterosexuals or male homosexuals.
The question is, “does that matter under the law?”. Maybe we should have separate laws for Lesbian behavior?
Did laws for different folks?
Oldflyer on May 25, 2013 at 7:38 PM
“different laws for different folks”
Oldflyer on May 25, 2013 at 7:41 PM
So no difference than George Zimmerman being persecuted for the benefit of elected officials pandering to blacks in full Mike Nifong mode? Florida laws suck.
Happy Nomad on May 25, 2013 at 7:46 PM
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