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posted at 9:29 pm on June 1, 2009 by Allahpundit

In case you were wondering what I meant yesterday about blogs being more insufferable than usual this week, witness the lefty campaign today to lay George Tiller’s death at O’Reilly’s feet. As John McCormack at the Standard points out, anti-torture advocates have leveled plenty of similarly harsh attacks on the Bush administration. Anyone think the left would be doing any navel-gazing had some wayward Kossack bought a gun and shot Donald Rumsfeld, say, in the face? Cranks behaving crankishly is the tragic price one pays in a country that respects freedom of speech. Had any liberal taken the endless comparisons between Bush and Hitler seriously, or taken one too many Olbermann exhortations about Republican “fascism” to heart, and fired a weapon, we’d be endlessly reminded that passionate criticism is a core First Amendment value. As it is, we’re being told O’Reilly’s an accomplice to murder, even though the guy who pulled the trigger was arrested for playing around with exposives as far back as 13 years ago. Kudos to BillO for not whitewashing Tiller’s record, notwithstanding the contempt any right-thinking person has for the gutless cretin who murdered him.


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I hope the people of Kansas (middle America) take a good long hard look at themselves. How in the hell could you continue to vote for people who protected Tiller and let him kill 60,000 babies?

moonsbreath on June 2, 2009 at 9:02 AM

I don’t watch O’Reilly and hadn’t heard of Tiller until Obama appointed Sebilius, and commentators began linking her to Tiller. So I blame Obama for bring Tiller’s name back into the news.

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Obambi will probably fly out to Wichita and preach the eulogy at Tiller’s funeral.

Percy_Peabody on June 2, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Haven’t read many of the above comments, so I may be a day late and a dollar short, but would it be too much to ask for O’reilly to refer to them as “60,000 BABIES”, instead of “60,000 Fetuses”?

brewser on June 2, 2009 at 8:56 AM

That is an excellent point, brewser!

William2006 on June 2, 2009 at 9:14 AM

About O’Reilly’s bogus charges against Tiller:

The O’Reilly Factor

George Tiller was first discussed on The O’Reilly Factor on February 25, 2005. Subsequently Tiller was discussed in at least 28 episodes before his death. On the show he was sometimes described as “Tiller the Baby Killer” and host Bill O’Reilly warned of Tiller’s “judgment day”. On November 3, 2006, O’Reilly featured an exclusive segment on his The O’Reilly Factor, saying that he has an “inside source” with official clinic documentation indicating that George Tiller performed late-term abortions to alleviate “temporary depression” in the pregnant woman. According to reporting data provided to the Kansas Board of Healing Arts for the year 1998, all of the post-viable “partial-birth” abortion procedures (dilation and extraction) performed in Kansas during that year were performed because “the attending physician believed that continuing the pregnancy would constitute a substantial and irreversible impairment of the patient’s mental function.” Tiller responded to O’Reilly’s statements by demanding an investigation into the “inside source” through which the information was leaked, suggesting that Phill Kline, then the Kansas Attorney General, was responsible. Kline denied the charge. O’Reilly also interviewed a woman who got pregnant when she was 13 and received an abortion from Tiller.

In other words, O’Reilly made a broad accusation and failed to prove it.

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 9:15 AM

Bill O has done the right thing. Do not apologize, don’t give one inch otherwise these sharks will smell blood in the water and his career will be over.
You could just as easily paint MSNBC responsibile for 6000 abortions that Tiller did by using the same logic as olby

kangjie on June 2, 2009 at 9:20 AM

Being wrong about Tiller and then refusing to acknowledge it is what bullies do, and that’s what O’Reilly is.

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 9:22 AM

Bill O’Reilly may be a bully, but he was right about Tiller.

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM

I hope the people of Kansas (middle America) take a good long hard look at themselves. How in the hell could you continue to vote for people who protected Tiller and let him kill 60,000 babies?

moonsbreath on June 2, 2009 at 9:02 AM

No. KIDDING. My gosh.

Being wrong about Tiller and then refusing to acknowledge it is what bullies do, and that’s what O’Reilly is.

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 9:22 AM

Oh my gosh…you are so right. I wish more on the right would get over themselves and realize just how wrong they are about true civil rights and the quality of speech rather than the sheer ability of it. You might be interested in these two links to help you spread the word against right wing zealousness.

http://tinyurl.com/n9m47b

or this:

http://tinyurl.com/ljd4e5

((sigh))

Mommypundit on June 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM

http://tinyurl.com/ljd4e5

((sigh))

Mommypundit on June 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM

I could have done without seeing that. But I’m missing your point. Did you post it because you’re sickened by the fact that this happens, or because you’re sickened by having to face it?

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM

I post here a lot. Most regulars know I was being sarcastic…but I will remember to put a /sarc tag on that.

We all could “do” without seeing it. Keep in mind that those little babies will never see a damn thing. EVER. Ever. Try to stomach that.

It infuriates me to hear idiots talk about issues they refuse to look at themselves. Anyone with 1) a heart and 2) a moral compass or conscience and 3) a sense of justice and 4)any shred of intellectual consistency at all will see abortion for what. it. is. Particularly, anyone with the above traits will applaud ANYONE for decrying the crimes against humanity that Tiller committed, albeit legal, while OBVIOUSLY denouncing the vigilantism which took his life. I would have relished him being behind bars…as it was, I wept for his death because the cause is hurt, the truth darkened, and pure justice (from changed minds) from the state was not administered. I will wait and pray for that day. With that, these babies deserve some form of recognition.

It was meant to offend. May we NEVER grow too cold to feel sick over those images.

Mommypundit on June 2, 2009 at 10:22 AM

I hope the people of Kansas (middle America) take a good long hard look at themselves. How in the hell could you continue to vote for people who protected Tiller and let him kill 60,000 babies?

moonsbreath on June 2, 2009 at 9:02 AM

No. KIDDING. My gosh.

Being wrong about Tiller and then refusing to acknowledge it is what bullies do, and that’s what O’Reilly is.

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 9:22 AM

Oh my gosh…you are so right. I wish more on the right would get over themselves and realize just how wrong they are about true civil rights and the quality of speech rather than the sheer ability of it. You might be interested in these two links to help you spread the word against right wing zealousness.

http://tinyurl.com/n9m47b

or this:

http://tinyurl.com/ljd4e5

((sigh))

Mommypundit on June 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM

/sarc and content warning for those links. Sorry.

Mommypundit on June 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

notwithstanding the contempt any right-thinking person has for the gutless cretin who murdered him.

Really, AP, really?

60,000 dead babies.

“gutless cretin”?

Your “gutless cretin” removed a stain on the human race.

What have you done, but talk talk talk.

Where are your guts?

pseudonominus on June 2, 2009 at 10:28 AM

/anger

pseudonominus on June 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Why do we have to pay for US Marshals to act like security guards for these places? With the millions these places take in they can hire 24 hour security.

Blake on June 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Rethinking this, I guess the doctors need body guards. Again, they are very rich and should pay for it themselves.

Blake on June 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Sooo, what O’Reilly is being accused of is different than the daily accusations of Bush ‘killing’ 600,000 innocent Iraqis, going to war merely for oil, the constant Rove/Cheney/Bush hate speech and Hitler/Nazi comparisons?

As an aside; how do you ‘kill’ (read, abort) something that isn’t alive? Why would you need to suck out the brains of something if it weren’t alive? If the aforementioned brains were tested after being sucked out, would they be ‘human’ brains?

I’m just asking…

Geministorm on June 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Mommypundit on June 2, 2009 at 10:22 AM

I’ve seen your posts here before, and that’s why I asked. It didn’t seem to fit ;)

The effect of that photo on me was to confirm what I already believed. It’s shameful what we do to these innocent children, and I don’t care if it DOES give the mother reprieve from a few weeks of mental anguish. It is wrong, wrong, wrong. Even in the case of an infant that will die before or shortly after birth. What mother would ever choose this for her unborn child, regardless of whatever temporary pain it might cause her to carry the child to term?

I read somewhere that a woman thanked Dr. Tiller for allowing her to bring her child’s life to an end with dignity. Dignity for whom? Certainly not the child.

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM

For those of you upset by Tiller. There is an organization nationwide who supports, and receives your tax dollars for abortions like these. They are Planned Parenthood. Where are your votes when it comes time to vote in candidates who would end their reign of terror? Stop silly posting on blogs only and get to work! These people need to be stopped! The current Republican Party ain’t going to do it! Support new candidates that WILL!

sabbott on June 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM

starfleet_dude on June 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM

what kind of horrid prenatal care was this woman getting, that it took 8 months before the doctor discovered she was having conjoined twins?

citrus on June 2, 2009 at 8:08 AM

+1, I would believe starfleet’s story if it happened after Obama takes over our healthcare system, but the whole thing smacks of fiction to me.

infidel4life on June 2, 2009 at 11:01 AM

sabbott on June 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Why would you assume we aren’t already voting pro-life and working on this issue? Posting on blogs isn’t silly. And it isn’t ALL we do. Personally, I’ve learned a LOT at Hot Air, and uncovered resources that have helped me persuade others to a more conservative point of view. Something wrong with that?

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Tiller did not operate under Kansas law. This guy was a bad actor who bought himself political protection at the highest levels.
See Jack Cashill who has been covering Kansan politics & Tiller for years.
http://www.cashill.com/regional/index.htm

thegreatbeast on June 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Tiller did not operate under Kansas law. This guy was a bad actor who bought himself political protection at the highest levels.

It’s not a good thing to promote lies for your cause. Tiller was hounded by the Kansas Attorney General Klein for years, but nothing ever came of it when the verdict came in:

Doctor acquitted in late-term abortion case

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM

sabbott on June 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM

We’re on that. It’s unfortunate that for, how long(?!?!?) our dollars have been going there and other pro abort places. The liberal hegemony has been intact for some time now, with or without the current occupant of the white house being republican. When the left has control of the schools, the media, the purse strings and the courts, it often matters little what elected officials do (as we can clearly see.) It will only change with societal change. This means we have to repent…and seek God again. Simply. Until then, it’s just damage control and moderate shifts here or there.

I’m tired.

Mommypundit on June 2, 2009 at 11:49 AM

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Oh please, MSNBC? You’d be more convincing if you linked something believable.

And please don’t overlook the continuing investigation by the state’s Board of Healing Arts. The charges they’re investigating are the same ethical violations that were the subject of the criminal prosecution.

There’s an interesting parallel here with O.J. Simpson. Technically, under our court system, Simpson was found not guilty–but most people would agree he probably killed his wife and her friend. Still, technically, he’s not guilty of those murders. In the same way, Tiller is technically not guilty of violating a particular section of Kansan abortion legislation. That does not make him innocent of the slaughter of, by his own count, over 60,000 innocent infants.

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Oh please, MSNBC? You’d be more convincing if you linked something believable.

Are you claiming that Tiller wasn’t acquitted of all 19 charges? If not, there’s no reason to claim MSNBC is unbelievable in its reporting.

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 12:04 PM

And please don’t overlook the continuing investigation by the state’s Board of Healing Arts. The charges they’re investigating are the same ethical violations that were the subject of the criminal prosecution.

I’m not, but I hope you’re not discounting the acquittal yourself.

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Mommypundit on June 2, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Hey MommyP, you are right again. It is an exhausting battle and the rewards are few and far between. I do believe this will end, but I’m afraid our country may pay a terrible price before it does. Looking at the U.S. today, it’s a bit frightening to see how much we resemble the declining civilizations we read about in history books.

I think the bottom line is we each have to be responsible for our own souls and do what we can to save others. So we pray. And we try to shine a light on the worst excesses, and we vote our conscience and contribute our time and money to trying to move us forward. And we pray some more….

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 12:07 PM

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 12:04 PM

No, I just find it amusing that you would quote them here.

starfleet_dude on June 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM

I don’t deny he was acquitted. But, our legal system is fallible.

But aside from all legal arguments, what he did was immoral. Unlike many who support abortion and are ignorant of what it really means to abort a baby, he was intimately familiar with what was done to those tiny lives. He saw the horrible evidence of that every day he went to work. And still, he carried on.

Dee2008 on June 2, 2009 at 12:18 PM

There one thing that bothers me about this whole thing. First of all. I am in no way sypathetic to Tiller’s murderer. Even though I feel that what Dr. Tiller did was wrong he should not have been murdered for it. But I can’t say that I’m surprised by it.

Mr Tiller had 1 in 3 facilities in all of America that performed his rare abortion practice. A practice that many could show for the most part is not necessary except in extremely rare cases.

In any case my wonder goes more toward why this man did not have more protection around him. He had already been shot before in the past and he had to know that just because of his profession he would have a bull’s-eye in his back.

He was making seven figures a year. You would think he would have hired a small security detail to protect him. He certainly should have been able to afford it.

Scorched_Earth on June 2, 2009 at 12:36 PM

This is much a no-brainer as passing up the opprtunity to use a time machine to kill Hitler.

A mass-murderer walks by you….what do you do?

pseudonominus on June 2, 2009 at 12:49 PM

That’s what ya get for paying attention to morons on TV. And they’re ALL morons.

Kill your TeeVee!

mojo on June 2, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Mommypundit on June 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Only the irony-challenged need a /sarc tag for that.

I’m of the opinion that if your sense of humor doesn’t race headlong for the Bible-black when dealing with this issue, you have no soul.

The person that committed this crime deserves to be punished appropriately and swiftly. This is a capital murder if I’ve ever seen one, and the punishment for such a crime is well known. If the murderer fights it, well, we’ll know then just what kind of a person he is. A common, bloodthirsty murderer.

Killing abortion doctors is categorically wrong and deserves to be treated as such, to the full extent of the law. Doing so for nominally Christian reasons is a clear and unequivocal violation of both the letter and the spirit of Christ’s teaching. Vengeance is the LORD’s to exact, not ours. The Old and New Testaments cannot be any more clear on this matter. As soon as you take up arms to “fight for Christ,” you’ve left His kingdom and gone the way of Barabas. Period.

My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

The meaning of that is clear. The proper use of arms is under a purely temporal, political jurisdiction (e.g. the commands given to Joshua as leader of Israel’s military, the exhortation to submit to the legal authorities, etc). To appropriate God’s name for our temporal, political ends is to take that name in vain and violate His law.

spmat on June 2, 2009 at 1:53 PM

It seems the people happiest about Tiller’s death are abortion supporters.

AaronGuzman on June 2, 2009 at 2:19 PM

so must the death of the soldier be laid at the feet of fundamentalist islamofascists.

eaglewingz08 on June 2, 2009 at 8:31 AM

And Code Pink.

unclesmrgol on June 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Ann Coulter:

In 1997, The Washington Post reported that Tiller attended one of Bill Clinton’s White House coffees for major campaign contributors. In addition to a $25,000 donation to Clinton, Tiller wanted to thank him personally for 30 months of U.S. Marshals’ protection paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.

So our tax dollars went to pay for Tiller’s door-to-door and ultimately unsuccessful U.S. Marshall protection for 2 1/2 years, a program usually devoted to witness protection participants and judges.

In light of our taxes paying for a good chunk of Planned Parenthood’s annual budget, I’m wondering what state or federal subsidies went to Tiller.

Tiller shouldn’t have been killed, and the perpetrator should be at least locked up for life. I am, however, glad Tiller can no longer harm an innocent life.

macummings on June 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM

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