George Tiller murdered
posted at 8:59 pm on May 31, 2009 by Allahpundit
My two thoughts on this: (1) Murder is bad and wrong; (2) blogs will be even more insufferable than usual this week. The cops haven’t confirmed yet that the shooting was political but given Tiller’s infamy for performing late-term abortions plus the fact that he was shot once before, there’s little doubt what the motive was. I wish I could say there are no Bill Ayers types on our side, but I can’t; I wish I could say there are no right-wing nutroots degenerates online cheering them on, but I can’t say that either. As for those who condemn the murder while merrily hoping that he’s burning in hell, let a poor confused atheist ask you this: Isn’t the proper Christian response to any death to pray that God will have mercy on a flawed, fallible sinner, who’s now at last seen the error of his ways? Tiller might have changed his mind about abortion and repented in years to come but his killer’s deprived him of the chance. No prayers that God will take that into consideration?
I’m going to give you guys the benefit of the doubt and leave comments open, but if I see anything in the vein of what LGF has noted, the thread will be shut and offenders summarily banned. If you can’t resist pissing on a man’s grave, doubtless there are other blogs that will accommodate you. Don’t let me down.
Update (Ed): The murder of George Tiller at his church is a heinous crime, without any sense or justice. Regardless of how one feels about George Tiller’s profession, his murderer is nothing more than a domestic terrorist — someone attempting to impose by force a policy that one cannot get in place through democratic means. Tiller’s killer is no better than William Ayers, Kathleen Soliah, and Eric Rudolph, people who attempted to use violence for their extremist ends. Those who value life know that murder is the antithesis of the pro-life movement.
Update: The suspect’s name is Scott Roeder. Circumstantial evidence suggests that the motive was indeed political.
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I’ve never understood it either, Cindy. Especially when it comes to such late term abortions. At that point, just put the child up for adoption! Like you said, she’s basically giving birth at that point as it is.
Perhaps some women simply feel they can’t deal with knowing they would have a child out there…somewhere.
I don’t know.
JetBoy on May 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Allah, you actually linked to this garbage?
And, Bill Ayers never targeted people. The bombs he set never harmed or killed anyone. This shooting is not in the same league as was Ayers did.
Tom_Shipley on May 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM
I’m not cheering the guy – but you are wrong in your premise here. Any German shooting an SS officer would have been hailed as a hero.
And would have been seen as very “Pro-Life”
HondaV65 on May 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM
I appreciate it!
blatantblue on May 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Clue for your next nom de internet – notbright123
Schadenfreude on May 31, 2009 at 10:01 PM
You should see some of the drivel coming out of the left-wing blogs. I wish they had the same decency as HA. As an example……….stay classy, HuffPo.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 31, 2009 at 9:53 PM
Took the last line from the article.
I would ask… who are the enablers of murder and terror? WHO????
Certainly not those who are responsible for legalizing the murder of over 40 million babies in the last few decades…
katy on May 31, 2009 at 10:01 PM
I don’t understand it either, Cindy. The baby can live outside of the womb at this time…what is to be gained?
ladyingray on May 31, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Especially since the number of shootings are actually pretty rare.
CWforFreedom on May 31, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Exactly right shipley – why the bombs of Bill Ayers were filled with pinata candy – they were perfectly harmless!
Oh – but didn’t he kill one of his own guys accidentally? dunno.
HondaV65 on May 31, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Mengele.
mankai on May 31, 2009 at 10:02 PM
At any rate, those of us who are truly pro-life can not celebrate the killing of this doctor, period. We live by the rule of law and the belief in the sanctity of life.
ddrintn on May 31, 2009 at 10:03 PM
I’m just sad the pro-life movement is F*CKED now
blatantblue on May 31, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Only because Ayers and his buddies were incompetent. Ayers’ girlfriend and his buddy perished when the nail bomb they were building, that they were going to use to blow up an Air Force NCO dance, blew them up instead.
So if the perp here had missed Dr. Tiller or only wounded him, it would be OK for the Republicans to have a Presidential candidate pal around with him, like Obama does with the terrorist Ayers?
NoDonkey on May 31, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Wow. So, you are comparing the choice of a thinking human being to violently destroy a defenseless human being to someone who LEGALLY sells an inanimate object such as a gun, because it is used to kill someone?
The fact that you are so willing to give a man responsible for thousands of innocent lives a pass on that is simply stunning. Seriously, stunning!
I guess it’s pretty easy for you, as a male, to sit there and demonize women who are facing an unwanted pregnancy. You have no clue what tremendous pressures are put upon women by loved ones and friends in a time when they are completely undone, stressed, and therefore vulnerable to making extremely poor decisions. Not to mention that they are not given truthful information as to the development of her baby and the life-long implications of aborting said baby. You have zero credibility to make the statements you do, and should realize that you sound like a uninformed, judgmental fool.
Those women are wrong to do what they do. But it does not even compare to the guilt of the abortionist.
Puddleglum on May 31, 2009 at 10:03 PM
So what’s your point?
katy on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
To shoot a man. no matter what sins he may have committed, who is obviously unarmed and not directly threatening you or your family, for his sins is the act of a coward…i.e., that is what I think is un-civil. But I’m an older southerner…so I’m clearly not up to the tactics of the times.
AUINSC on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
There is no good in evil.
Never.
The wicked actions of Scott Roeder in murdering an abortion doctor is evil, plain and simple.
Nothing good will come out of this.
ColtsFan on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
This is the problem I have always had with pro-lifers bombing/setting fire to abortion clinics. No matter how you feel about other people’s politics, that is never justification to kill them or hurt them or their livelyhood. Just because I may not agree with what they are doing as a job, its legal. This entire story is extremely tragic.
Rightwingguy on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
The Weathermen were planning to bomb a NCO dance at Fort Dix chumley…Billy was part of a murderous ongoing criminal conspiracy…thanks for playing.
sven10077 on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
I think that the Right makes a mistake in the way we handle these incidents. We need to make sure that everyone knows that we believe that this killing was wrong, but at the same time we need to be honest about our feelings toward this man.
I believe that most Americans would think that Triller was a monster if they were informed about what he did for a living. But as soon as a Conservative pundit wrights or speaks about it he will be challenged by the Left with “oh, so you agree with his killer?” and, more than likely back down. Or even more likely, he won’t write about it in the first place.
Triller spent the past few decades profiting from the wholesale slaughter of fully-formed babies. If we cowed into not calling him a monster then who qualifies? Calling him a mass murderer doesn’t make what his killer did right. We call Jeffrey Dahmer a serial killer but still believe that the person who killed him in jail did a bad thing, don’t we?
This man was an abomination. Someone did to him what he made his living doing to others. Why is it wrong to say that just because what he did happened to be legal due to our screwed up justice system?
29Victor on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
All this and the story has been out a few hours.
How very open-minded of you.
/sarc
Not surprised
CWforFreedom on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Don’t worry about the HuffPo guys – none of them have any testicular fortitude and will merely insist their fascist President round us all up for concentration camps.
Problem is – he’s too busy at the moment running auto companies and figuring out how to screw up health care properly.
Not to mention his basketball buddy Kim Jung Il – who seems to ring the doorbell quite often.
A busy President.
HondaV65 on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Powerpro, Tiller was not a public figure. He was a private citizen. Therefore, it is NOT assassination. Neither was the murder of John Lennon. There is a lot of confusion about this.
atheling on May 31, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Murder is not pro-life no matter which way you slice it.
Rightwingguy on May 31, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Geezus, the apologists for Ayers are now coming out.
Man……
Right, putting nails in bombs is clearly evidence that you don’t want to harm people. Just destroy property.
SteveMG on May 31, 2009 at 10:05 PM
The rule of law must rule the day. It’s the only way to stay civilized.
Spirit of 1776 on May 31, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Ayers was just inept.
ddrintn on May 31, 2009 at 10:05 PM
This is 100% the fault of the guy who pulled the freakin’ trigger. Period.
ladyingray on May 31, 2009 at 10:05 PM
And, Bill Ayers never targeted people. The bombs he set never harmed or killed anyone. This shooting is not in the same league as was Ayers did.
Tom_Shipley on May 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Well yes, the bombs he personally worked on never killed anyone, though the last bomb, the one that was to be placed at Fort Dix to kill Army officers, accidentally exploded before it could slaughter any innocents.
Still, it’s nice to know that Ayers was a conscientious bomber. What a joke.
Bishop on May 31, 2009 at 10:06 PM
TMK:
Your “interpretation” of the scriptural passage does not refute what I stated one iota.
And what of Maccabees?
atheling on May 31, 2009 at 10:06 PM
It’s not that Ayers was Gandhi-like in his love of non-violent confrontation.
ddrintn on May 31, 2009 at 10:06 PM
I’m not worried. Just constantly stunned at the disconnect and projection from such morally blinded idiots.
katy on May 31, 2009 at 10:06 PM
16 February 1970 – Bombing of Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen.
6 March 1970 – “bomb factory” located in New York’s Greenwich Village accidentally explodes. WUO members Theodore die in t. The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer’s dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey. The bomb was packed with nails TO INFILICT MAXIMUM CASUALTIES UPON DETONATION.
courtesy A Timeline Of Crime For Obama’s Buddy William Ayers
By Rob on April 19, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Yeah, right, Tom
kingsjester on May 31, 2009 at 10:07 PM
To paraphrase Steven Crowder, Well…Here’s the thing about that, AP….
inviolet on May 31, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Rule of Law is so 2008….we are entering rule of men and might makes right….ask DoJ why The NBPP brandishing weapons is not voter intimidation but imaginary dogs in florida are….
sven10077 on May 31, 2009 at 10:07 PM
I’d say that it illustrates the fundamental problem with legalizing late-term, partial birth abortion.
Dialogue and understanding assume that there is a middle ground. There isn’t.
ProfessorMiao on May 31, 2009 at 10:07 PM
As far as I know, what Tiller did was LEGAL as well, no?
Here we go. I’m a human, who values basic human rights. Why would a woman wait until the third trimester to finally figure out the pregnancy is “unwanted”? If it were possible for me to get pregnant, and I didn’t want a baby, I know what I would…or wouldn’t…do.
JetBoy on May 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM
But he did not seek these babies – he was not targeting these babies like some Nazi was targeting jews – he was a practicioner who their mothers contracted to do a procedure.
Painting the target on the back of a doctor – is twisted and misguided.
Being jewish I find the analogy to concentration camp behavior outrageous and just so misguided.
You can tell that those putting forth this analogy do not know allot of jews.
AprilOrit on May 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM
I am against abortion,and the late term abortions
is unconscionable!
Killing abortion doctors is also wrong!
The only outcome of this act,will be that the Liberal
Party,as well as MSM,will jump on this,point fingers
to the RIGHT,DHS will say there correct on their analysis
of the RIGHT,and this will be politically used as a wedge,
as well as a distraction,in which the Left will use!!!
canopfor on May 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM
But … it’s really not.
This guy is a lone ranger. You’d have a point if some Pro-Life org had been caught trying to promote or plan this – but none did.
And the hysterical rhetoric coming from the left is going to be a god send for us.
I mean seriously – you can find any number of Mullahs out there telling their followers to kill Christians – and the liberals cheer these guys on.
Can you find one single legit Pro-Life leader telling their followers to kill abortionists? Nope.
So yeah – we can do some damage with their hypocrisy here no doubt. Hey … if they want to go there – let’s go there.
HondaV65 on May 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Ayers should now be serving a life sentence…got off on a technicality..but we both agree…the guy who did this should get the death penalty. And yes, I believe in the death penalty for murder.
AUINSC on May 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Meanwhile while finding an American Muslim leader who condemned 9/11 was like finding a needle in a haystack; conservative, religious and pro-life groups are going to spend the next few weeks bending over backward condemning the shooter. And yet still be smeared with this crime.
29Victor on May 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Lefties will gloat over this killing, but find any contortion to rationalize their own nutcases. Sickening.
ddrintn on May 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM
16 February 1970 – Bombing of Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen.
Didn’t know that.
So now Shipley AND Ayers are officially jokes.
Bishop on May 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM
I already stated it.
Blake on May 31, 2009 at 10:09 PM
AUINSC on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Nice sidestep of the entire discussion. I’m not defending or glorifying the killer (the one with the gun).
Just saying, “civil” society? I can perhaps see where a confused individual, might not be able to tell sometimes, whether we really are a civil society, when the healing professions have certain members who one could argue, don’t really heal anything at all.
NoDonkey on May 31, 2009 at 10:09 PM
MB4 on May 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM
dude…
29Victor on May 31, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Never targeted people? Is that what you call settting off several poinds of explosive in a Pentagon restroom? Ayers admits it was only luck that no one was injured. And his girlfriend was killed building a shrapnel bomb intended for a soldiers’ dance.
Plus, the San Francisco police and an FBI informer think that Dohrn set a bomb that killed a policeman, and other Weather Undergrounders did commit murder and attempted murders. Ayers also robbed and vandalized.
juliesa on May 31, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Mental exercise:
No matter how you feel about abortion would you support the killing of lets say a Nazi Officer who was in charge of killing Jews?
Don’t be shy and don’t lie.
CWforFreedom on May 31, 2009 at 10:09 PM
You are 100% correct, I agree, now they will be saying – I told you so – loud and often.
AprilOrit on May 31, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Very well said.
And if this nut who did this will claim to be doing God’s work, I will cringe mightily.
Vengence isn’t for us down here. God has promised us that He will take care of all iniquity and unfairness.
This also isn’t going to help us conservatives AT ALL with the Obama administration. They’ll only take that DHS report more seriously than before.
Bad stuff….
Skidd on May 31, 2009 at 10:09 PM
This may be “above my pay grade”, however, I would say that it would probably take a very heavy dose of cognitive dissonance to do so.
MB4 on May 31, 2009 at 10:10 PM
it’s why I think it is time to part company with them….
they refuse to grasp that their supplication to political and religious violence abroad cannot help but increase its likelihood here at home.
sven10077 on May 31, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Who cares? Since when did they need a legitimate point to attack us? They make stuff up out of thin air.
I mean seriously – the sooner we quit feeling concerned about the feelings of the radical media and the radical left – the sooner we start to kick butt and take our country back.
You’ve got to change the paradigm brothers and sisters.
HondaV65 on May 31, 2009 at 10:10 PM
The murderer should hang if found guilty, and if pre-meditated.
Not shedding any tears over Tiller, but killing these guys isn’t right.
He didn’t go out there and abduct pregnant women and perform abortions on them.
Dr. ZhivBlago on May 31, 2009 at 10:10 PM
OK, here is what I got off one of the Militia Watchdog website reporting on the killer’s history:
July 7, Kansas: Scott Roeder is sentenced to sixteen months in state prison for parole violations following a 1996 conviction for having bomb components in his car trunk. Roeder, a sovereign citizen and tax protester, violated his parole by not filing tax returns or providing his social security number to his employer.
It is illegal for ex-felons to own guns. How this extremist came into possession of a gun to commit this heinous crime needs to be investigated and anyone guilty of aiding him in acquiring this weapon should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
As a supporter of gun rights and a critic of late term abortions I find this murder disgusting and a setback for anyone that has my point of view. The suspect is no friend of the Pro-Life or Pro-Gun movements, as he has perpetrated irreparable harm to those that have views similar to mine.
DL13 on May 31, 2009 at 10:10 PM
You were not a victim . You idiot.
CWforFreedom on May 31, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Thank you!
Blake on May 31, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Hammer and nails for the Jew Killers.
I will NEVER forget the monstrosity of communism or fascism.
sven10077 on May 31, 2009 at 10:11 PM
April idiots like you who escaped their mother’s womb talk big. Sicko. You really make me ill.
CWforFreedom on May 31, 2009 at 10:11 PM
I wish anti-aborts would quit faking sympathy for guys like Tiller. What happened to him was wrong because it was illegal. To say it was wrong because it was immoral – to go as far as to invoke God – shows how little the person doing so has actually thought about it.
Hitler, as far as we know, killed no non-combatant civilian himself. He was a trench soldier in WWI, but he personally killed no Jews.
Tiller butchered we don’t know how many babies with his own hands.
Why should there be any sympathy for him, when we wouldn’t fake it for Hitler? Many of us would KILL HITLER OURSELVES if we could go back in time. Why? To save the people we know his policies will put to death.
Yet some on our side say they are sorry for Tiller, a man who – it bears repeating – killed who knows how many people.
I seriously don’t get this.
splink on May 31, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Tiller stopped a beating heart. He played God for years, now he will face him.
Whoever did this played God today, and will face a jury of his peers.
christene on May 31, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Your idea of God is too small. God leaves nothing to chance.
Daggett on May 31, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Really, not aimed at people? When his co conspirators inadvertently blew themselves up are you aware of what their bomb’s targets were to be?
Cindy Munford on May 31, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Look, do you know what is a worse sin than killing babies? The fact that we, Christians, have allowed the degradation of our culture to become so advanced, that we have actually codified the murder of babies in our highest court. Thus, as heinous as abortion is, it is legal. Thus, we, Christians, have failed in being a light in the world. But over the last decade, great work by many churches through crisis pregnancy centers, community support for unwed mothers, and the like have been slowly but surely changing the actual culture of young women who get pregnant. And by proper, peaceful protests we have shifted the polls and have been making great strides in convincing the larger American culture that abortion is morally wrong. This crap wrecks all that. It sets us back so far. It must be vehemently condemned by major theological centers (Southern Baptist Theological seminary, Reformed Theological Seminary, Dallas Theological Seminary, etc.), major pro-life organization, prominent/large congregations, etc. The best way to advance the pro-life movement is to help those young women know that there are options and that there is help and understanding and commitment for them and their baby. It does nothing NOTHING for the Life movement to coldly shoot another man.
Weight of Glory on May 31, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Babies feel pain!
Your a stubborn guy and a wrong guy a lot.
You find the studies that make you feel better about your stance.
I will believe that tiny human beings feel the same pain big ones do. It’s common sense.
katy on May 31, 2009 at 10:13 PM
I have a feeling KO’s going to outdo himself tomorrow regarding this and end up with a story on HA.
I just can’t bear the sesspool that comes out of his mouth.
therightscoop on May 31, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Would it bother us more if they used gun’s ?
http://www.abort73.com/
ambuldog on May 31, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Back to – Obama supports late-term abortions, for any reason whatsoever (not just maybe-justifiable reasons.
And if the late-term abortion fails, if the infant is born LIVE – Obama does not agree that there is a requirement on medical staff to try to keep the infant alive.
Tiller’s murder is evil. But it is a terrible one-off. Infanticide after failed late-term abortions is a regular occurrence.
JohninLondon on May 31, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Don’t operate on the assumption it is capable of constructing logical syllogisms.
blatantblue on May 31, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Of course they feel pain. I don’t even want to cite the evidence of that, it’s too gruesome.
Daggett on May 31, 2009 at 10:14 PM
ColtsFan on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 PM
You might want to go re-read Habakkuk.
29Victor on May 31, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Two different issues…
ladyingray on May 31, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Ah … the tool of the left … watch the little Christians walk their tightrope and then POKE THEM! When they fall off.
Easy to do when you’re not the one who is walking the tightrope – in fact when you refuse to walk any tightrope.
I’ll just say this – as a semi-Christian – I don’t celebrate this guy’s murder nor do I wish he burn in hell. The fact that now fewer babies will be killed is an upside that is hard for me to ignore but …
You have to remember that in Christianity – all are sinners. So it’s not far-fetched that some Christians would hope for this guy to burn in the afterlife.
But whatever – the proper Liberal reaction will be to use this guy’s death in a political manner – fully expect that.
HondaV65 on May 31, 2009 at 10:14 PM
I agree (as a Gentile) that the analogy is odious and stupid. Historically illiterate if not worse.
But Dr. Tiller had more culpability than just that of providing a service. He wasn’t a passive actor in these matters.
Again, that in no way excuses his murder.
SteveMG on May 31, 2009 at 10:14 PM
I understand your point, especially when I read the idiocy of people defending Ayers, but still this resonates to me:
Neither let us be slandered from our duty by false accusations against us, nor frightened from it by menaces of destruction to the Government nor of dungeons to ourselves. LET US HAVE FAITH THAT RIGHT MAKES MIGHT, AND IN THAT FAITH, LET US, TO THE END, DARE TO DO OUR DUTY AS WE UNDERSTAND IT. - Lincoln
Spirit of 1776 on May 31, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Allahpundit: As for those who condemn the murder while merrily hoping that he’s burning in hell, let a poor confused atheist ask you this: Isn’t the proper Christian response to any death to pray that God will have mercy on a flawed, fallible sinner, who’s now at last seen the error of his ways?
Christianity is not a monolithic set of beliefs and customs. There are many different threads in its fabric. Some are not as attractive as others.
Some people need the threat of certain and horrifying punishment in order to be good. This is one reason we have the criminal justice system and prisons. And I’ve known many people who hope rapists, murderers and terrorists rot in jail. So, the same approach is taken among some Christians who wish eternal fire and brimstone on unrepentant sinners.
Wishing suffering on other human beings, and taking pleasure from such suffering, seems to be part of human nature, regardless of religion or lack thereof. I don’t know why this is and have no idea how to stop it, other than through my own words and deeds.
So, if you ever have any suggestions on how to change human nature to the better, please share them.
Loxodonta on May 31, 2009 at 10:15 PM
I don’t understand a woman who could do it or a person who could perform it. Next to suicide it must be the most selfish and narcissistic act on Earth.
Cindy Munford on May 31, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Who gives a hoot in hell what Keith Olbmermann has to say about anything?
Life’s too short to waste you time listening to the ramblings of irrelevant gasbags like him.
I haven’t heard a word out of Barack Obama’s mouth since the Hillary debate. Life is far better that way.
NoDonkey on May 31, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Well, Tiller’s Church had no problem with his line of work. So, many Christian’s have no problems with abortion. Even if they don’t, running a late term abortion mill is still sort of creepy. And building your church out of the money Tiller makes from running a later term abortion mill is even more creepy.
Blake on May 31, 2009 at 10:16 PM
I’ll never wipe the images I’ve seen of abortions from my mind.
blatantblue on May 31, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Because Hitler was the Law, while Tiller was working within it. That’s the difference.
Weight of Glory on May 31, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Yep. Watched my first son get circumcised just after he was born. He felt pain alright (and from the look he gave, I don’t think he’ll ever forgive me).
29Victor on May 31, 2009 at 10:16 PM
I am so sick of this kind of thing. People get murdered everyday, constantly, for the dumbest or most selfish of reasons. Yet one guy gets killed and suddenly its a national tragedy.
What makes Tiller’s life so much more valuable than any of the other people who were murdered today?
Grayson on May 31, 2009 at 10:16 PM
The MSM is going to have a field day with this. They are going to turn Tiller into some kind of saint and paint all pro-lifers as lunatics. I hope this jerk pays for what he’s done. Killing a man in cold blood on the steps of his church, no less, is beyond cowardly. With that said, however, I won’t be shedding any tears over George Tiller. His death doesn’t change what he did. I just hate that one crazed gunman with an ax to grind is going to give the pro abortion left in this country a soap box on which to stand just as the pro life movement was really beginning to make headway.
Redneck Woman on May 31, 2009 at 10:17 PM
But there are bills in place in most State that require the baby to be resuitated, really. I know some of you don’t want to accept that, but it is fact.
Now if the hospital is not following the law and placing babies in broom closets to die – that’s a different ball of wax.
AprilOrit on May 31, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Agreed. To assume otherwise is idiotic.
katy on May 31, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Actually I kind of disagree with you here. Sure, I’ll bet he wishes he were just a private citizen, but the fact is he garnered a lot of media attention and became a media symbol in the abortion debate. He became the face of late-term abortion so I think that he was more public figure than private citizen.
I know it’s just semantics and I concede my definition may not mesh with everyone else’s so I would like to see your response to this as well as that of anyone else who’d like to contribute on this thread of thought.
Not necessarily.
History is fraught with examples of God taking a tragedy and making something good of it.
powerpro on May 31, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Be careful. When you think we felines are sleeping, well, we are not. We are plotting to take over the world.
FeralCat on May 31, 2009 at 10:18 PM
The athesist are also having a field day with this. They all seem to gravitate to you know who on twitter. And they are ka-razy! Absolutely obsessed with it.
Blake on May 31, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Welcome, long time no see.
Cindy Munford on May 31, 2009 at 10:18 PM
I agree. I find it hard to believe any church, lest any individual, would condone his actions. But unfortunately we have a government full of them now.
therightscoop on May 31, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Go to YouTube and watch a video of a third-trimester abortion such as the kind Tiller performed, and explain why anyone should weep for this man.
Allah – as for what Christians should think about it, have a glance at Luke 17:2.
greggriffith on May 31, 2009 at 10:19 PM
YOU MOST DEFINITELY ARE!!
blatantblue on May 31, 2009 at 10:19 PM
I am not thrilled with finally agreeing with what the moonbats have been saying since Reagan, but at the end of the day their cognitive dissonance and evil will lead to great bloodshed if we are forced to maintain intimacy.
They are more aghast at our “evils” of disagreeing with them over domestic policy than people who earnestly and avowedly wish us all death….
I cannot imagine coexisting with them another 40 years.
sven10077 on May 31, 2009 at 10:19 PM
If you’re OK with Tiller’s line of work, what’s the point of going to Church at all?
I mean, might as well stay in bed on Sunday because it’s pretty clear, that either God’s pretty much as soft as Santa Clause and will accept anything we do, no matter how much against his laws it is, or he doesn’t exist.
Might as well nurse your hangover in bed Sunday a.m., than waste your time in church, at that point.
NoDonkey on May 31, 2009 at 10:20 PM
I feel the irony in a murderer being murdered. I don’t support or justify anyone being shot down.
AP, praying for someone already dead is a waste of time. Prayer only works for the living, while you still have a chance to make decisions to change. After you are dead, your choices are already made.
sMack on May 31, 2009 at 10:20 PM
I don’t have much sympathy for Tiller, but I do understand that his murder is wrong. Please allow me to quote from my blog to explain why:
During the first several decades of Christianity, Roman and Jewish authorities persecuted the Church, resulting in the deaths of many thousands of innocent Christians. A Christian in those days might have reasoned to himself that if he killed one of the persecutors, there might be fewer deaths of Christians. I’m glad that there is no record of that ever happening, but that twisted logic appeared today in the murder of George Tiller. Scott Roeder thought that he ought to take the place of God and punish Tiller, the infamous partial-birth abortionist. Not only will there be just as many abortions taking place next month as this month, Mr. Roeder, but the tide of public opinion–which had been swinging in the pro-life direction–will probably swing back the other way, thanks to you, Mr. Roeder.
jgapinoy on May 31, 2009 at 10:20 PM
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