O’Reilly loses his taste for internet cops

posted at 6:51 pm on May 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The entire O’Reilly Factor kerfuffle started when Bill assigned himself the role of internet cop and busted us for writing hateful posts — by quoting a commenter, a newfangled development on blogs which apparently confused Bill.  He then offered a half-assed apology for not reporting accurately, but blamed us for not policing our comment sections as thoroughly as Bill himself does with his own site.  Patterico then took Bill at his word and paid good money to join Bill’s site (note that we don’t charge people to read Hot Air) and did a little internet policing of his own.

Did Patterico get a high-five from the Factor for his intrepid work in pointing out hateful comments?  Not exactly:

I wish I could share today’s “BillOReilly.com blog posting” . . . but my membership has been terminated …

Oh, wait. I just reviewed the Terms and Conditions again, and I believe I have found the relevant language: “4. Do not expose Bill O’Reilly as a rank hypocrite.”

Glenn Reynolds calls this “inexcusable internet lameness,” which is accurate as far as it goes, but it’s also rather pusillanimousOur posts and comments sections are open for anyone to read, and for anyone to criticize, including Bill.  Bill, however, not only requires people to pay first to read them, but then when a paying member does exactly what Bill does on his television show, Bill has their membership terminated.

Some people can dish out the criticism but can’t take it.

We interviewed Patterico on the NARN show at the very end, when we saw his Twitter update on the situation.  It’s a great segment; be sure to catch it.

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Megyn Kelly…Megyn Kelly.

StevefromMKE on May 30, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Bill, you make up with Patterico and Patterico will make up with PW.

Mr. Joe on May 30, 2009 at 9:35 PM

(from Drudge)

KS Rex on May 30, 2009 at 9:04 PM

I have to say, I agree with you. While O’Reilly did make a HUGE mistake by trying to compare HA posters with the insecure loons over at those other two hate sites, further magnifying it by trying to pass it off as a blogger’s words. We should make some kind of peace.

In a way, right now we need a voice like his. He appeals to a large audience and is starting to call BS on the current administration. I am not saying anybody has to like him, but why not take advice from an old Chinese proverb I think we are all familiar with.

-The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I’m interested to hear what others think of this.

TampaBayBull on May 30, 2009 at 9:37 PM

, he thinks he IS humble. He says so.

dogsoldier on May 30, 2009 at 9:23 PM

If one thinks that one is humble chances are that they are not.

thomasaur on May 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Bill O’Reilly is Geraldo Rivera without the hair. A loudmouthed buffoon who actually believes what he says is important.

Cicero43 on May 30, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Is this better?

N4646W on May 30, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Now I’m kind of glad Letterman stirred his drink with a dirty pencil.

Disturb the Universe on May 30, 2009 at 10:14 PM

I wish I could share today’s “BillOReilly.com blog posting” . . . but my membership has been terminated …
Oh, wait. I just reviewed the Terms and Conditions again, and I believe I have found the relevant language: “4. Do not expose Bill O’Reilly as a rank hypocrite.”

Just like NBC’s orders not to make Obama look bad.
Hmm, Wonder if Bill has a stake in GE and Jeff Immelt .

Texyank on May 30, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Hmm, Wonder if Bill has a stake in GE and Jeff Immelt .

Texyank on May 30, 2009 at 10:14 PM

He did cancel his piece with Andrew Wilkow after he broke the story open.

liquidflorian on May 30, 2009 at 10:18 PM

-The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

TampaBayBull on May 30, 2009 at 9:37 PM

That’s the kind of thinking that leads leftists and Paleocons to side with the Muslim Palestinians over Israel.

I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a “make-up.” I really don’t care either way, I don’t have a dog in this fight. But let’s get one thing clear: O’Reilly is not a friend of conservatives in any meaningful way whatsoever.

2Brave2Bscared on May 30, 2009 at 10:39 PM

The problem with O’Reilly is that he wants so desperately to be seen as above partisanship that he feels obligated to attack “right-wing loonies” as some sort of balance to his attacks on the “left-wing loonies”.

DarkKnight3565 on May 30, 2009 at 7:28 PM

He plays fast and loose with the term “far right.” Case in point: Awhile back when the Fred Phelps Westboro Baptist Church loonies were in the news, BO insisted on referring to them as “far right”, even though it was public knowledge that Phelps had been registered and run for office as a Democrat. I (and I’m sure others) emailed Bill in an attempt to set him straight, to my knowledge he never bothered to correct his error.

infidel4life on May 30, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Michelle and MKH need to hound him about this… or refuse to go on BOR’s show as a protest.

mankai on May 30, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Wonder if BOR’s site is modded by a third party company like Jack Tapper’s ABC blog site is? If so, then then anti-B_O posters wouldn’t be tolerated for long.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM

I want to be on HotAir & Patterico’s side on this but… can you explain it instead of just labeling the situation? cuz i am SO lost…

unless im missing something… Bill O’Reilly was a jerk and unfairly scolded HotAir for not banning offensive comments (admitting in his half-apology that “it happens to me too, but still” to paraphrase). so…to annoy O’Reilly, Patterico posts offensive comments on O’Reilly’s site and gets banned, per O’Reilly’s stated policy…
why are you calling O’R a hypocrite?

that makes no sense…………………………

Drunk Report on May 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Uh, “Jake” Tapper…sorry, keep thinking “Jack Tripper” like in Three’s Company…LOL

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 30, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Awhile back when the Fred Phelps Westboro Baptist Church loonies were in the news, BO insisted on referring to them as “far right”, even though it was public knowledge that Phelps had been registered and run for office as a Democrat.

infidel4life on May 30, 2009 at 10:55 PM

And he actually campaigned for Gore in ’88.

unless im missing something… Bill O’Reilly was a jerk and unfairly scolded HotAir for not banning offensive comments (admitting in his half-apology that “it happens to me too, but still” to paraphrase). so…to annoy O’Reilly, Patterico posts offensive comments on O’Reilly’s site and gets banned, per O’Reilly’s stated policy…

Drunk Report on May 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Yes, you are missing something. Patterico has never posted anything on O’Reilly’s site. Is there a particular reason you thought he did?

Jim Treacher on May 30, 2009 at 11:26 PM

What a pecksniffian blooter!

OxyCon on May 30, 2009 at 11:34 PM

FOXNEWS OREILLY 3,526,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,474,000
***
(from Drudge)
KS Rex on May 30, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Those are huge ratings differences. Making matters worse for Hannity, typically, there are more total viewers watching TV at 9:00 than 8:00, so you typically will see 9:00pm shows getting higher ratings than 8:00 shows.

Outlander on May 30, 2009 at 11:43 PM

FoxNews sure needs competition.

rogersnowden on May 30, 2009 at 11:56 PM

Byyyyy the way:

I will NEVAH
EVAH

EVVVVVVV-VAH get sick of that screenshot of BOR

F*CK IT!!!!

FCKIN THING!!

SUCKS!!!

blatantblue on May 31, 2009 at 12:29 AM

-The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

TampaBayBull on May 30, 2009 at 9:37 PM

“My enemy is a jackass that makes many enemies, sometimes with other jackasses.” – TMK

TMK on May 31, 2009 at 12:29 AM

unless im missing something… Bill O’Reilly was a jerk and unfairly scolded HotAir for not banning offensive comments (admitting in his half-apology that “it happens to me too, but still” to paraphrase). so…to annoy O’Reilly, Patterico posts offensive comments on O’Reilly’s site and gets banned, per O’Reilly’s stated policy…
why are you calling O’R a hypocrite?
Drunk Report on May 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Patterico captured various comments from BOR’s paid website with much harsher terms than anything left on HA. These were not actually posted by Patterico, but rather, just a basic review of the comments section reveals very little policing of a paid website versus what he expects Ed and AP to do on essentially free website.

darury on May 31, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Our posts and comments sections are open for anyone to read, and for anyone to criticize, including Bill.

That is because you are emotional grownups.

Bill, however, not only requires people to pay first to read them, but then when a paying member does exactly what Bill does on his television show, Bill has their membership terminated.

That is because Bill is an emotional infant.

MB4 on May 31, 2009 at 1:16 AM

Bill O is a lot like Queen Pelosi. Nither seems to understand the adage, “When in a hole, first stop digging”.

MB4 on May 31, 2009 at 1:18 AM

O’Really?

Oh brother.

That’s all.

hillbillyjim on May 31, 2009 at 1:32 AM

I have to say that the two “offensive comments” sited by Patterico were not really very offensive. I guess the one about marrying a goat could be seen as offensive. But O’Reilly banning him for no reason at all was essentially an admission of defeat. He should just deem himself wrong on the matter, apologize to his viewers for his Internet ignorance and move on.

Dollayo on May 31, 2009 at 1:48 AM

How does Bill like his Crow recipe cooked?

Rare?

Or Spun?

profitsbeard on May 31, 2009 at 2:22 AM

Why does Bill O’Reilly need a cute young sidekick to tell him what the blogs are saying?

Let me rephrase.

I can understand why Bill O’Reilly might find need for a cute young sidekick to explain to him what the blogs are saying, but why doesn’t he want to know what the blogs are actually saying?

He could still find some way to float her a paycheck, but he is not exactly prerforming a news service with this routine

When I read a book, I read the book, not Cliff’s Notes

Dean Martin used to have a bunch of hot chicks hand him drinks on his television show, but when he was going to sing, he got a real piano player to accompany him.

On the other hand, in vaudeville, a sidekick was useful to hand lines to the comedian. Then there is good cop, bad cop.

entagor on May 31, 2009 at 2:28 AM

When O’Reilly chose convenience over conscience regarding Geraldo Rivera’s tasteless attack on the boss, he exhibited his true self.

Pinhead indeed.

hillbillyjim on May 31, 2009 at 2:32 AM

The entire O’Reilly Factor kerfuffle started when Bill assigned himself the role of internet cop and busted us for writing hateful posts — by quoting a commenter, a newfangled development on blogs which apparently confused Bill.

LOL. Trying to go for a record on how many whiny O’Reilly smeared us posts?

Folks, wake up and use the thing connected to your neck. This is, in entirety, what Bill said about the comment posted (oops, don’t want to use the word posted as some here might get confused and think I said “blog posting.”) to HotAir:

“Okay, I’m gonna read a couple of the com…these are from bloggers. Free Republic.com…

This comes from HotAir.com:

“unqualified, militant, and socialist. NEXT, please. The GOP has to block any of Hussein’s [-that's the president] extremist picks.”

Ya know, when you read something like that, no one’s gonna block the pick. Ya know, do you ever think about who’s writing this? Is that person live in the united states? That’s just not gonna happen. The numbers are overwhelmingly democrat, and they’re going to vote for her…So, the guy who writes this…the woman who writes this. I guess they’re just not living here.”

WHERE did he claim HotAir wrote anything hateful? I still ccannot understand what sort of logic is being employed here to make the claim he “busted” anything, let alone tried to pin the comment as hateful. To paraphrase, he clarified that “Hussein” is a reference to the president (and he said NOTHING else on that matter, he didn’t make a face, he didn’t cringe or sigh…NOTHING. Then he said, the person commenting (he wasn’t sure who it was, man or woman, who made the “comment”) must not be living in the US if they’re this far out of the loop to think she won’t be confirmed. That is literally ALL he said on the issue of HotAir.

You ever see people slowly lose it and wonder if it’s all just a big April Fool’s Day joke?

TheBlueSite on May 31, 2009 at 3:49 AM

Just a few of the TOS violation’s perpetrated by Patterico:

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4. User Responsibilities. You agree that you will conduct yourself in a mature manner that lends itself to civil discourse, and that you shall use BillOReilly.com for lawful purposes only. Further, you agree not to use any facilities or resources available on or through BillOReilly.com to perpetrate prohibited conduct, whether against BillOReilly.com, Bill O’Reilly individually, or any other third party. Examples of prohibited conduct include, but are not limited to chain letters, unauthorized copying of Submitted Materials, Site Materials or Intellectual Property, pornography, unsolicited advertising, postings which are deemed excessive in number or deemed to be initiated to harm the business of BillOReilly.com, or other communication that creates a nuisance or is otherwise offensive to the recipient or the BillOReilly.com audience. You represent and warrant that Submitted Materials do not infringe any third-party intellectual property rights. You agree not to transmit any unlawful, threatening, harassing, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, or profane material, any material submitted without permission under another person’s name, or other material that could constitute or encourage conduct that could be considered a criminal offense or violate any law. You shall not, without the express written approval of BillOReilly.com submit any materials which contains advertising or any solicitation with respect to products or services, including any on-line information services competitive with BillOReilly.com. Site shall have the right, in its sole discretion to edit or remove any material portion of Submitted Materials, which in its sole discretion, it finds to be in violation of the provisions of this agreement or otherwise objectionable.

Mr Purple on May 31, 2009 at 7:35 AM

The latest hypocrisy.

That is an excellent description of this Hot Air post.

Mr Purple on May 31, 2009 at 7:42 AM

O’Toole.

Red Cloud on May 31, 2009 at 8:06 AM

TheBlueSite on May 31, 2009 at 3:49 AM

Except that he embedded his remarks in a piece on hateful bloggers, lumping Hot Air in with other blogs that he criticized for their extremism and hate speech. I don’t have the transcript in front of me, but I do remember that my reaction to his comments was that Hot Air had sunk to the same level as the others. And THEN criticized Hot Air for not doing something that he himself doesn’t do. He deserves the scorn he’s getting here.

Dee2008 on May 31, 2009 at 8:28 AM

O’Reilly likes to dish it out, but can’t handle being on the receiving end when he screws up.

Girly man!

Keemo on May 31, 2009 at 8:37 AM

This whole BOR thing is getting old. Please drop it. Otherwise I may have to make some derogatory “Blog Postings” of my own.

BierManVA on May 31, 2009 at 8:57 AM

profitsbeard on May 31, 2009 at 2:22 AM

four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie

maverick muse on May 31, 2009 at 9:03 AM

What would MM suggest BOR say/do to put an end to this matter?

It needs to be put to rest ASAP.

petefrt on May 31, 2009 at 9:21 AM

-The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I’m interested to hear what others think of this.

TampaBayBull on May 30, 2009 at 9:37 PM

While I can rarely stomach watching Bill O, (the dude just rubs me the wrong way) I agree with you. He is important in stealing away CNN and MSNBC viewers. (although I think those networks are just as responsible and chasing away their viewers).

I just have a problem with his condescending manner and abrasiveness. I also dislike the fact that he is a lazy journalist at times. And takes positions because they are easy to argue instead of investing the time to argue a more complex position. That is either lazy or a slap to his fans thinking they are too stupid to understand an issue.

And that drives me nuts!

conservnut on May 31, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Attacking Hot Air is how O’Toole keeps himself on the unbiased keel which exists only in his mind.

Unfortunately in this case, he doesn’t have any ground to stand on, got caught, and now is acting pretty much the same way the New York Times acts when they get caught screwing up. We can’t denigrate the Times or the Post when they do it if we don’t apply the same logic to “the enemy of my enemy,” which is exactly the way I look at O’Toole. I personally can’t stand him but since he gets the Obama Kool-Aid Krowd(tm) all hot and bothered, I tolerate him.

Doesn’t mean we have to sit by and let him do something this stupid.

Red Cloud on May 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM

2 words. Ted Baxter.

Kissmygrits on May 31, 2009 at 9:59 AM

I think the bloggers who are hateful should stop pointing the finger at O’Reilly and clean up their act.

The fact is…..he quoted correctly.

AnninCA on May 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM

I subscribed to his premium member page in 2004. I also bought and read his books… that only lasted a year.

I found out that my friend Bill was not “looking out for” me. He was looking out for Bill, and still does. It is impossible to look out for America and be fair and balanced.

Although I still watch his program, I know he’s more about ratings and personal popularity than looking out for me. I read HA daily and trust your site much more than O’Reilly… who’s all about drama. He does like to pick a fight!

DenneyCrane on May 31, 2009 at 10:47 AM

This reminds me of the comical fight between Charles at LGF and Glenn Beck. Charles had been posting a lot of negative threads about Glenn Beck. Finally, Glenn Beck mentioned Charles at LGF one time. When I looked at LGF again, there was Charles posting his crazy rants against Beck. Beck never committed again about Charles. Who do you think won that argument?

The same thing is happening here. I’ve been posting here for a few years and I’m sorry to say that HotAir is looking extremely childish with the continuation of all these threads against O’Reilly.

Stop beating this dead horse already.

moonsbreath on May 31, 2009 at 11:10 AM

There once was some Internet policing
That Hot Air regulars found quite displeasing
Bill’s site has comments quite crass
So Patterico’s kicking his ass
Once it’s bandaged we’ll say we were teasing

SDSquint on May 31, 2009 at 11:32 AM

This reminds me of the comical fight between Charles at LGF and Glenn Beck. Charles had been posting a lot of negative threads about Glenn Beck. Finally, Glenn Beck mentioned Charles at LGF one time. When I looked at LGF again, there was Charles posting his crazy rants against Beck. Beck never committed again about Charles. Who do you think won that argument?

It reminds me of blog wars I’ve followed, frankly. The blog owner takes umbrage at some other blog owner’s remarks, which then dominates the blog.

Personal ego and pride….and it’s boring.

AnninCA on May 31, 2009 at 11:51 AM

thomasaur on May 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Yeah, that was my point! Heh. He always says “Your humble correspondent..” . Or at least he did, when I could still watch regularly.

dogsoldier on May 31, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Drunk Report on May 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM

The comment O’Reilly used of mine wasn’t offensive unless truth is offensive. I said Sotomayor is incompetent, militant and socialist. I referred to the One as Hussein. Wow that is just sooooo awful, especially when compared to the complete destruction of our way of life. Horrors!!

dogsoldier on May 31, 2009 at 12:08 PM

BO’R is a phiffelthwaite.

Akzed on May 31, 2009 at 12:21 PM

I tried tuning into his radio show not long ago only to find that he had canceled it.

I only listened to him occasionally because he just so pompous and it exudes from every pore. At least Rush is self deprecating and funny.

This guy is certain he is a gift to everyone within earshot. I’m glad he is exposing himself (no pun intended) for what he really is.

watson007 on May 31, 2009 at 12:25 PM

In a way, right now we need a voice like his. He appeals to a large audience and is starting to call BS on the current administration.

No. Too little, too late. During the campaign, when it actually might have MATTERED to really investigate and publicize a lot of Obama’s disturbing statements, actions, views and associations, O’Reilly bent over backwards to show that he was giving Obama “the benefit of the doubt”, so far and in so many instances, that it was appalling. Even if the one and only semi-challenging interview Obama had during the entire campaign was when he was on the O’Reilly Factor, by Bill’s standards, it was as softball as anything I’ve ever seen.

Bottom line: during the ’08 campaign, he was every bit as negligent as the rest of the media.

Cylor on May 31, 2009 at 12:32 PM

The whole time I read that, I could hear O’Reilly talking over you Ed. What can I say? The guy loves the sound of his own voice.

oakpack on May 31, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Cylor on May 31, 2009 at 12:32 PM

During the campaign, O’Reilly was the only one of the major media with guts enough to call the idiot messiah a “socialist” and challenged him to show how his redistributive ideas were not “socialism”.

Don’t blame O’Reilly because no one paid attention to that interview and what was said. It wasn’t until some weeks later that Joe Wurzelbacher got the idiot messiah to say “spread the wealth” and then open up the whole “socialist” angle.

progressoverpeace on May 31, 2009 at 1:13 PM

I know I can’t call O’Reilly a part of “The Media”, but he might as well be.

One of the things I hate about the MSM is the elitism they show toward blogs. I can understand why, for instance, the NYT wouldn’t like blogs… blogs are the future and crinkly papers that stain your fingers are going the way of the dinosaur.

But why the elitism from O’Reilly? He’s nothing special. He’s a blogger with a tv show. Why does he seem to think all these blogs out here are full of hateful right-wing fanatics that need to be disparaged at every opportunity?

I blog. I’m a small business owner with an MBA. Do I need some special certificate to be considered legit? Is there a secret handshake that makes O’Reilly all cool but Michelle, and the rest of us out here, dregs?

Blogs are awesome. They provide a wider range of information than we’ve ever had before, and give people a voice instead of shuffling them to some corner to sit quietly.

Is that why blogs are so hated?

12thMonkey on May 31, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Is that why blogs are so hated?

12thMonkey on May 31, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Yes.. The elites want to keep us in a pin as sheeple.

Keemo on May 31, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Again O’Reilly’s arrogance bites him in the arse. GOOD! I wish H.A. would spend more time exposing him for what he is.

O’Reilly lost my support/viewership/fandamonium when he refused to stand side-by-side with Michelle at the time when fruit loop GerrrrALDO went after our fair heroine.

DannoJyd on May 31, 2009 at 2:05 PM

The same thing is happening here. I’ve been posting here for a few years and I’m sorry to say that HotAir is looking extremely childish with the continuation of all these threads against O’Reilly.

moonsbreath on May 31, 2009 at 11:10 AM

I would think that if you really have been posting here for years you would find what O’Reilly said as quite offensive, especially considering how flat out wrong he was in his original comments, and proved to be flat out wrong again in his semi-retraction.

Y’know, I guess you’re right. When someone like O’Reilly pokes you in the eye, you should just roll over and pretend it’s all good.

I can’t believe Hot Air would actually, like, try to point out this guy was wrong, and all. How dare they?

12thMonkey on May 31, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Expect a wrongful death suit against Bill O from Tiller’s family in 5… 4…. 3…. 2….

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on May 31, 2009 at 2:36 PM

Bottom line: during the ‘08 campaign, he was every bit as negligent as the rest of the media.

I’ve never heard Bill O’ describe any tingling of any body parts, further he was the only “non opinion” journalist, that I am aware of who wasn’t actively rooting for Obama during the election.

I am glad HA defended its’ own integrity, and would expect nothing less. However, in my opinion, O’Reilly is much more valuable to conservatism than many are willing to admit.

TampaBayBull on May 31, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Ass kicked on Hot Air
Someone aborts George Tiller
Lose some, win some, Bill

SDSquint on May 31, 2009 at 4:00 PM

I would think that if you really have been posting here for years you would find what O’Reilly said as quite offensive, especially considering how flat out wrong he was in his original comments, and proved to be flat out wrong again in his semi-retraction.

Y’know, I guess you’re right. When someone like O’Reilly pokes you in the eye, you should just roll over and pretend it’s all good.

I can’t believe Hot Air would actually, like, try to point out this guy was wrong, and all. How dare they?

12thMonkey on May 31, 2009 at 2:11 PM

I guess you didn’t get my point. There was a thread posted after O’Reilly said what he did, then he apologized and several didn’t like the apology, so there have been several now about that and then some. It has nothing to do with “roll over and pretend it’s all good.” After a while, you’re the one who ends up looking like a fool and not the person you originally went after. If you still don’t get it, I can’t help you.

Also, if you don’t believe I have been here for years because I haven’t gotten bent over this, then fine, I haven’t been here for years then.

moonsbreath on May 31, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Bill O’Reilly likes to present himself as someone at the pinnacle of political knowledge. In order to convey this lofty status to his viewers he has to occasionally attack both right and left positions. You can’t be a better commentator than everyone else, unless everyone else is a poorer commentator than you.

Fred 2 on May 31, 2009 at 5:19 PM

SDSquint on May 31, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Now I see why Hot Air disabled comments on the Tiller news story…

tommylotto on May 31, 2009 at 5:32 PM

If you still don’t get it, I can’t help you.
moonsbreath on May 31, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Yes, thank you. I do get it.

Please don’t assume that because I don’t agree with you, it’s a matter of “not getting it.”

O’Reilly took a swipe at Hot Air, which was completely off base. Hot Air responded. O’Reilly did a half-assed retraction, which included remarks about how the comments threads in blogs need to be policed better. It was demonstrated that O’Reilly’s own site isn’t policed for comments all that well, either, despite the windbag ranting about it.

I don’t see how this is overkill on the part of Hot Air.

Right now, on the front page, there is exactly ONE post about O’Reilly. This one.

If you think that’s somehow overkill, you’ve got a very strange sense of perspective.

12thMonkey on May 31, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Right now, on the front page, there is exactly ONE post about O’Reilly. This one.

If you think that’s somehow overkill, you’ve got a very strange sense of perspective.

12thMonkey on May 31, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Well, if you think that that encapsulates the sum total of this issue and the reaction, then you’ve missed a whole heck of a lot of what’s been going on.

progressoverpeace on May 31, 2009 at 10:16 PM

A few weeks ago, Billy was forced to report on the Michael Savage-Jacqui Smith kerfuffle. Billy could not bring himself to say the name, so he referred to Savage as “that guy”.

bbhack on May 31, 2009 at 11:41 PM

yall have to understand that the Loud-One thinks of his site like its Fight Club.

The first rule about BillOReilly.com is don’t talk about BillOReilly.com!

I gave up on Bill along time ago, to me hes always going to be Rush-lite.

Sorry Bill, but the whole traditionalism thing is called conservatism; stop the spin and get over it.

bombos on June 1, 2009 at 12:51 AM

Right now, on the front page, there is exactly ONE post about O’Reilly. This one.

If you think that’s somehow overkill, you’ve got a very strange sense of perspective.

12thMonkey on May 31, 2009 at 9:50 PM

My perspective is just fine, thank you for your concern.

Actually, there have been SIX threads started in regards to this. Not just this one, as you allude to.

Video: O’Reilly smears Hot Air
Michelle: Thanks for smearing our site, O’Reilly
Video: O’Reilly apologizes to Hot Air, sort of
Patterico’s new O’Reilly Factor fun
Does Bill O’Reilly read Fox Nation?
O’Reilly loses his taste for internet cops

I only responded to you because you quoted me and seemed to be confused as to why I wasn’t more bent out of shape. Trust me, I don’t care if you don’t agree with me.

Now, aren’t you a bit annoyed that I keep responding? Kinda like an overkill, huh?

moonsbreath on June 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM

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