Noonan, Cornyn, Steele, Krauthammer: Don’t go nuclear on Sotomayor

posted at 3:33 pm on May 29, 2009 by Allahpundit

Your meme du jour in four flavors. Krauthammer makes the case to the base that this isn’t worth a war; Noonan makes the case to Senate Republicans that it’s a golden opportunity for gravitas; Cornyn makes the case to Limbaugh and Gingrich that throwing grenades about racism isn’t helping; and Steele makes the case to, er, whoever Steele imagines his audience is. For all the sound and fury over a conservative split on how hard to hit Sotomayor, the differences between the two camps signify practically nothing. The Noonan camp isn’t saying she shouldn’t be pressed on her “wise Latina” and “courts make policy” comments, they’re merely asking the GOP to avoid unnecessarily inflammatory lines of attack. (See Andy McCarthy’s musings about Sotomayor as a potential juror for one clever, non-inflammatory possibility.) The real fault line between the two sides is whether the GOP should filibuster, but that’s not worth debating since it’ll never, ever happen. Even if Snowe and Collins shock the world by voting no, McCain will be wary of alienating Arizona’s Hispanic voters ahead of his reelection bid. She’s going to be confirmed. The only question is whether the GOP can use the confirmation process as a tutorial on the defects of liberal jurisprudence without getting bogged down in debating whether she’s a racist or not.

If you missed Noonan’s op-ed about this today, don’t treat the video clip as a fair substitute or else you’ll miss her all but declaring that right-wing blog readers are a conservative nutroots. Heart-ache. Click the images to watch.

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I have no comment until the true conservatives like Chris Buckley, Colin Powell, and Andrew Sullivan weigh in.

Even if it’s almost certain that she’ll be confirmed, they need to dig up and question her publicly on every possible negative they find. Did she ever smoke marijuana in college? Has she ever failed to pay Social Security taxes on domestic help? Has she ever had tax issues? Has she ever so much as shaken hands with an extremist?

Hollowpoint on May 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM

People should also realize Sotomayor may not even be Obama’s first choice.

If there is a big war over her and he has to pick someone else, the new pick may get a pass because Republicans don’t want to object so much the second time.

In any case, SS’s origin’s are extremely hard to pin down.

http://sarah-palin-2012.blogspot.com/2009/05/are-all-ethic-backgrounds-compelling-or.html

History Chaser on May 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Got this link today in an e-mail. Americans for Limited Government site. Great cartoon — says it all. What a bunch of wimps the Repubs are. Wish Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Beck, Bortz, and others would give up on them and endorse the Constitution Party or Liberty Party. Tie it to the upcoming tea parties and just leave the RINO’s en masse.

Christian Conservative on May 29, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Here are the four issues that GOP Senators should aggressively question her about:

1)Her views on the 2nd Amendment

2)if Affirmative Action would affect or influence her decisions from the bench and how it would

3)if she believes that Supreme Court should create new policy from the bench

4)her views on the First Amendment

Now I will agree that the questioning should be polite, dignified and dispassionate, but that does not mean the tone or content of the questions has to be insipid, lukewarm, or acquiescent.

technopeasant on May 29, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Liberal scum are so scarred of Rush and his listeners. He makes my day every single day.

kahall on May 29, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Yep, that’s racist, insensitive and stupid.

starfleet_dude on May 29, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Good description of Sotomayor. I agree.

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 5:07 PM

The whole point of the “racist” line was to spotlight the Left’s race-baiting politics, their reverse-discrimination policies, and their welfare mentality.

Yeah, in “polite” society you don’t go tossing around the R-word. But in a rational society, you would at least be tempted to call a spade a spade. Just because we’re conservatives does not mean we can’t listen to someone of one race/sex say she’s better than someone of another race/sex and think “Gee, that sounds a bit racist and/or sexist to me!”

cackcon on May 29, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Republicans should wait until Democrats give their advice on how to handle it.

Daggett on May 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM

starfleet_dude on May 29, 2009 at 5:01 PM

I see you are just having a conversation with yourself again. I hope you can gather enough ‘evidence’ to convince yourself of your position.

AUINSC on May 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM

I see you are just having a conversation with yourself again. I hope you can gather enough ‘evidence’ to convince yourself of your position.

You talkin’ to me? YOU, talking TO ME?

starfleet_dude on May 29, 2009 at 5:17 PM

starfleet_dude on May 29, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Nah, I was talking to the other one.

AUINSC on May 29, 2009 at 5:18 PM

We don’t like when our elected Republicans act like the Democrat party when they vote on spending and tax increases, right? Then why are so many posters and talking heads acting like Democrats and attacking this women before her hearing, smearing her before the fact, and calling her untenable – all before her hearing. This is what the Democrat partisans do.

We should explore her judicial philosophy, temperament and rulings at the hearings. All of our concerns and questions should be asked of her when she can answer them. Questions should be asked of her, in her presence, without fear of being called racist and the like.

I think if we handle this well, even though she will be confirmed, it will indicate to the public that Republicans are serious and different enough from Democrats that we could make major gains in 2010 elections.

On the other hand if all we do is act like Democrats do, posture and pose, rant and rave, then why should the voters believe we get it now?

Sheerq on May 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 4:14 PM

No, he wants a fight on the Sotomayor so he won’t have to fight when it comes to healthcare. It’s a sacrifice.
He has many Sotomayor’s. If Sotomayor doesn’t get passed, he’ll just pick someone else we will hate. He doesn’t have to fight here. He just has to pick. We could fight this tooth and nail and the media will say: “Oh those republicans blocked another appointee. Who will be sufficient to them.”

Remember guys, this appointee isn’t replacing a conservative judge here. I don’t think it would be a net positive for Obama here if Sotomayor gets passed. Just zero change.

MamaAJ on May 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM

I have little faith in republicans right now. I doubt they can do ANYTHING right at this point.

What people want republicans to do is the equivalent of having a quadapalegic face off against Micheal Jordan in a basketball contest with the referee being MJ’s number one stalker fan. Even if we somehow pull of a miracle of a win, we will somehow still lose because the referee will pull out some ridiculous call or just plain say we didn’t earn any points.

I know, it’s not fair but we have to pick our battles because lets face it, republicans suck right now. They lack the necessary skills to compete and won’t bother training those skills.

Trov on May 29, 2009 at 5:30 PM

And don’t get me wrong here, I’m not saying we should roll over for Sotomayor here. But wasting too much energy fighting tooth and nail over this is dumb too. We should point out all the faults and hope for the best. Then when healthcare comes. put all energy to stop THAT. We can live with a Sotomayor, we can’t with Healthcare.

Trov on May 29, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Peggy Noonan feels so much better now that the cool people on campus are saying “hi” to her.

Cicero43 on May 29, 2009 at 5:37 PM

The Democrats have savaged every Republican SC nominee beginning with Bork: Thomas, Roberts, Alito, etc. while Republicans usually give Dem-appointees a free pass.

Senate Confirmation Votes after Bork:
Kennedy:
Thomas: 52-48
Souter 90-9 (Dems got the word he was one of them)
Roberts: 78-22
Alito: 58-42

Ginsburg: 97-3
Breyer: 87-9

Do you see a trend?

Has there ever been a justice farther to the left than Ginsburg? Imagine if a GOP justice worked for a conservative group as far from center as the ACLU? Yet she received 97% of the vote.

bw222 on May 29, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Peggy Noonan feels so much better now that the cool people on campus are saying “hi” to her.

Cicero43 on May 29, 2009 at 5:37 PM

I wish Peggy would go somewhere and grow old ungracefully in private.

bw222 on May 29, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Funny how the Democrats never seem to agonize over whether or not to trash ANY conservative.

ddrintn on May 29, 2009 at 5:44 PM

What many conservative people want to do is fight hard on this. But what that would do is play into Democrat hands.

That is just illustrative of what is wrong with this country and why a mostly conservative country can’t elect conservative officials. Why is fighting for principles, fighting for what you believe in a bad idea? I’m sick of people using the excuse of media bias. The hearings will be live on c-span and probably live on cable and even broadcast networks. Ask her questions that will show what her positions are or will show her unwillingness to reveal herself. Ask her what she meant by all this stuff. Ask her why she thinks being a member of la raza is a good idea. Ask her respectively but make her give an honest answer.

peacenprosperity on May 29, 2009 at 5:49 PM

We can live with a Sotomayor,

No we can’t… If they show some ba!!s on her nomination defeating their healthcare reform will be that much more doable .

Trov on May 29, 2009 at 5:35 PM

jerrytbg on May 29, 2009 at 5:51 PM

that didn’t split up well…lol

jerrytbg on May 29, 2009 at 5:52 PM

If Sotomayor doesn’t get passed, he’ll just pick someone else we will hate.

If she doesn’t get passed it means that the republicans effectively questioned her and her views are not acceptable to the American people. If that ever happened, and it won’t because the republicans are cowardly, unprincipled and care about nothing but themselves, then the republicans will have a very clear and vivid blueprint for defeating unacceptable candidates. The only way she is defeated is if enough democrats are afraid it will be their butts if they vote for her. If that were to happen, and it could if there was anything as courageous, competent republicans, it would be a momentous turning of the tide.

peacenprosperity on May 29, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Who read the Krauthammer link? If not:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/28/AR2009052803613_pf.html

Hit out of the park once again.

toliver on May 29, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Dont like Peggy, but she did have a great line

Politically she’s like a beautiful doll containing a canister of poison gas: Break her and you die.

faraway on May 29, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Politically she’s like a beautiful doll containing a canister of poison gas: Break her and you die.

What a load of crap. The democrats destroy jewish nominees, hispanic nominees, black nominees and nothing happens because the republicans don’t bring it home to the American people. The republicans are losing because they choose to lose.

peacenprosperity on May 29, 2009 at 6:00 PM

peacenprosperity on May 29, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Hey, I agree, we should stick to principle. The problem is, after we take out Sotomayor with all our big guns. Obama will just pick someone else and I have little faith it would be better than her. Then we’d have to fight AGAIN over based on Principle and we may or may not win even then.

If Republicans can’t even stop Geithner, I have little faith they can stop Sotomayor but maybe thats just me.

jerrytbg on May 29, 2009 at 5:51 PM

I’d like to believe that. But I have little faith in republicans.

Trov on May 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM

CK MacLeod on May 29, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Yeah, you tried to sneak it in there on us, but the operative descriptor in your self-evaluation was MALE; duhh.

So I’m not sure why you even bothered.

That said:

Yo. O’Reilly. Right here. “Hussein.”

Sotomayor = Biased jurisprudence

J.E. Dyer on May 29, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Dems are alraedy making hay of Cornyn’s stupid comment:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/23105.html

Senator, if you are not capable of thinking fast enough so as not to embarass the GOP and yourself, it might be best to avoid the media.

bw222 on May 29, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Then we’d have to fight AGAIN over based on Principle and we may or may not win even then.

No, barry would have a huge defeat on his hands and he doesn’t like getting his nose bloodied. He may very likely choose someone more moderate instead of facing another defeat.

If Republicans can’t even stop Geithner, I have little faith they can stop Sotomayor

But I agree with you, they just don’t have the guts to fight. The sad thing is that if they put up a tough, principled, respectful fight they would see their approval ratings jump big time. The bottom line is that the republican party thinks wwe are as stupid as the democrat party thinks we are.

peacenprosperity on May 29, 2009 at 6:06 PM

peacenprosperity on May 29, 2009 at 5:57 PM

I agree with you that republicans should do it in an effective manner. We shouldn’t be like the democrats because they are experts at it while the GOP are complete Noobs.
Like I said before. I’m not saying we should roll over on Sotomayor. Just that we shouldn’t resort to democrat tactics to do so.
I know people are sick of being well mannered and nice and respectful and all that bull but it’s sadly the most effective weapon we have if we want to stop her.

Trov on May 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM

The fact of the matter is that Sotomayor is not a lefty ideologue and her record indicates that she is a centrist and probably a pro-business centrist at that. Her selection would not seem to throw the Court one way or another and on some issues I would think she could be to the right of Souter.

Even a senior pro-life Catholic leader came out and urged the GOP not run the confirmation hard (see the articles up top).

I would imagine Obama would pick someone more to the left later in his presidency and then conservatives can have the food fight they are longing to have. Getting apoplectic about this choice will make conservatives and the GOP look bad and right now they need to look good.

lexhamfox on May 29, 2009 at 6:12 PM

peacenprosperity on May 29, 2009 at 6:06 PM

I’m not sure it would be a huge defeat for him. Granted, he won’t like a bloodied nose. But I just don’t see it as a big deal for him. But maybe I’m being pessimistic.
Despite her problems, Like Lexhamfox said She might actually be the right of Souter(I’m not holding my breath)
But even if she passes, I seriously doubt she’ll change the current landscape of the court in the Democrat’s favor. So we shouldn’t have to nor need to use a nuclear warhead for her.
If I thought even for a second Obama would pick someone more moderate, I’d fight this one harder. But I don’t think he will no matter how hard we fight.

Lets just place our bets on tactical fighting and nor all out war.

Trov on May 29, 2009 at 6:21 PM

I’m getting sick of this.

Why is a supreme court nominee not worth going to war over? It’s not the war, it’s how the war is conducted. No cheap stupid shots, just the facts. That’s all that’s needed in this case.

In fact, since zerobama doesn’t want a judge that adheres to the letter of the constitution, he wants a feel good stand up for the downtrodden against the corporate conservative evil monster type judge. In that case, anyone he nominates is not worthy of confirming.

The constitution is worth fighting for don’t you think? Krauthammer disappoints me on this one.

Spiritk9 on May 29, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Why this does not scare the you-know-what out of every person in the US is beyond me.

Joe Caps on May 29, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Don’t you have a Star Trek convention your mommy has to drive you to?

csdeven on May 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM

csdeven on May 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Huh?

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 6:50 PM

I think CSD was responding to another thread…

FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Bork her.

Bork Sotomayor.

Bork her and then Bork her again.

Remember Judge Bork. And Miguel Estrada. And Judge Alito. And Judge Clarence Thomas.

Bork her over and over and over.

pabarge on May 29, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Rush spent some time doing sound bites from Democrats on Republican nominees to SCOTUS. It was pretty pointed and hateful. Doesn’t seem to have hurt the Democrats any.

I say give her both barrels, while grinning like a the Cheshire Cat the whole time.

Hog Wild on May 29, 2009 at 7:10 PM

I say give her both barrels, while grinning like a the Cheshire Cat the whole time.

Hog Wild on May 29, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Exactly. Ruthless and merciless. That’s how you win. Make her squirm. Send a message to anyone who might get tapped for a high-profile appointement that every you sneezed and didn’t wash up will be questioned. Make them defend the negative (Why didn’t you join the military?). Brutalize their family, their friends, their co-workers.

Just like the Dems do to GOP appointees.

“I’ll give you a war you won’t believe”

BobMbx on May 29, 2009 at 7:44 PM

Now it is important to watch what we say!? When the libs were not in power the things they said were outrageous. Now they are asking for “maturity” and caution in what we say? Count on the RINO’s to once again side with the Dems on this and to completely forget the insane things the libs said during the last Presidency.

MichiganMatt on May 29, 2009 at 7:57 PM

Sotomayor = DeSotoMyered in the muck of last century’s facisism.

Friendly21 on May 29, 2009 at 8:08 PM

The only person I have any respect for is Krauthammer – and he’s basically saying the same thing as Limbaugh.

Cornyn can go take a long walk off a short pier – he quite frankly sucks and I’ll donate to MoveOn to get him out of office next time. Noonan? Give me a break.

First …

What does opposing Soto mean?

Does it mean a Filibuster? It shouldn’t – because I really don’t know anyone who’s for a filibuster unless the hearings reveal a nominee so bankrupt – a filibuster gains bi-partisan support. In that case – it would make sense – but not right now.

Does opposing Soto mean “severely questioning” her? And questioning her about her racist statement? And questioning her about her views of the Constitution? And her role in legal review? Then – at the end of the day – VOTING AGAINST HER? — IT SHOULD.

I simply cannot believe that Republicans are out there saying we should VOTE FOR this nominee – but apparently they are.

WHAT THE FRACK ARE THE MODERATES ASKING FOR? Like always – it’s impossible to tell.

HondaV65 on May 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM

When the hearings begin, Republicans should call Frank Ricci as their first witness. Democrats want justice rooted in empathy? Let Ricci tell his story, and let the American people judge whether his promotion should have been denied because of his skin color in a procedure Sotomayor joined in calling “facially race-neutral.”

Krauthammer

Charles Krauthammer for Minority Whip.

Saltysam on May 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM

lol, great opportunity for gravitas. that and $5 will be me a cup of coffee.

i don’t want gravitas, i want my f@#$ing representatives to f@#$ing represent me and f@#$ing represent our conservative principles, and grow a f@#$ing pair of nads.

Midas on May 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Midas on May 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM

I dub thee, SaltyMidas.

Saltysam on May 29, 2009 at 9:05 PM

This isn’t worth a fight to them, becuase the Latino vote is more inportant to them than the white people vote. They know as long as they oppose democrats, they can fool white republicans into voting for them, becuase who else are they going to vote for? If you are white, you don’t count to this gang anymore.

paulsur on May 29, 2009 at 9:27 PM

This isn’t worth a fight to them, becuase the Latino vote is more inportant to them than the white people vote. They know as long as they oppose democrats, they can fool white republicans into voting for them, becuase who else are they going to vote for? If you are white, you don’t count to this gang anymore.

paulsur on May 29, 2009 at 9:27 PM

And how do they keep the (mainly) white, conservative vote? By telling the schmoes that if they do not vote for the RINO program, they will get something worse. People have been supporting this blackmail. All it has done is empower the blackmailers to ignore the wishes of (mostly white) conservatives

Which brings me to Noonan who has zero of the interests of (mostly white) conservatives in her mealy Obama worshipping heart

or else you’ll miss her all but declaring that right-wing blog readers are a conservative nutroots. Heart-ache AP

Sarc?

Noonan is a nut firmly rooted in Obama worship. Disgusting, disobedient, childish (mainly white) conservatives refuse to get with the program and acknowlege the One.

Noonan is so disgusted with the bad children she is doing her best to punish them with her attention

From what I can see there are more conservatives than RINOs which is why the RINOs keep losing.

It is the RINOs who need to form a third party because they cannot attract progressives into a conservative majority. I would be happy to help them form a third party just so I wouldn’t have to see any Bushes anymore.

The bloggers are not a problem unless people listen to them. People will not listen unless they find ideas they like.

The RINOs are delusional. I am sick of them all. RINOs and not conservatives have created Obama’s success

entagor on May 30, 2009 at 2:56 AM

Right, let’s compare Sotomayor to David freakin’ KKK Duke! That’ll show ‘em!! 1111!!!!1111

starfleet_dude on May 29, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Ding Ding Ding

She is just as racist as David Duke. How many Supreme Court Justices belong to groups called The Race and has even held high office within that group?
Or make comments that demonstrate she believes that Latinas and Hispanics are superior to the whole white race.

You are so down on Limbaugh that you have lost your marbles.His argument was so cogent and right on the point, I could not find anything wrong with it.

ScottyDog on May 30, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I think it says a lot when a lot of good conservatives/Republicans are saying that this is not the fight we want to have. Let us on the right show we understand how this process is suppose to work, unlike the people are the far left who clearly did not when it was Bork, Thomas, Alito etc.

arizonateacher on May 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM

I think it says a lot when a lot of good conservatives/Republicans are saying that this is not the fight we want to have.
arizonateacher on May 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Actually the people that are saying that are not conservative at all, they are Rockefeller Republicans that should have been shown the door along time ago.

People like John and Megan McCain, Colin Powell, Graham, and Spector tried to take over the GOP and turn it into DNC Light.

Letting this woman on the court would be just as bad as letting David Duke or Jesse Jackson serve on the court.

ScottyDog on May 30, 2009 at 6:55 PM

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