Glenn Beck: Hey, what if a million people stopped paying their taxes in protest?
posted at 9:15 pm on May 29, 2009 by Allahpundit
A follow-up to last night’s Craig T. Nelson cry of rebellion against … whatever, worth watching for the harrowing perspective Beck provides on just how much of the national debt load each of us carry. He’s careful to say for liability purposes that he’s not condoning this, no doubt to the relief of Fox News’s legal department, but he pretty clearly wouldn’t be heartbroken if a grassroots movement to this end arose on its own. I remember a lot of fiscal cons baiting me in the comments here for endorsing TARP way back when. Who’s in?










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Going Galt? I’m game!
jencab on May 29, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Fight nice kids…….
clinker46 on May 29, 2009 at 10:42 PM
I’ve been saying for a while now that I think a tax revolt is JUST the ticket.
tickleddragon on May 29, 2009 at 10:43 PM
There’s one difference: people with a low standard of living are still living – the greed agenda is against that.
zmdavid on May 29, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Spread the word kiddie. The more ther merrier!
vapig on May 29, 2009 at 10:45 PM
I’m about as Galt as you can get. This isn’t even my Internet connection.
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 10:45 PM
green not greed, d’oh.
zmdavid on May 29, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Any one of our founding fathers would have had you shot. They hated fiscal slavery and anyone who supported those who advocated it!
Idiot!
katy on May 29, 2009 at 10:47 PM
March on Washington…3,000,000 in DC…camp on the lawn and leave the trash!
will sass u on May 29, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Andrew Jackson would have first shot quite a few of the Democrats during the past 8 years.
Tabris on May 29, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Are you saying Andrew Jackson lacked the ability to recognize a Patriot? I can’t imagine what other inferance you could be making./s
heshtesh on May 29, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Jefferson would have loved Beck.
alwaysright43 on May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Uh, they’d fine and/or imprison a million people.
Perhaps a few would end up like Gordon Kahl.
Dr. ZhivBlago on May 29, 2009 at 11:00 PM
I’m about as Galt as you can get. This isn’t even my Internet connection.
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Me too, in fact I’m stealing this connection by using Strangleit’s unsecured wireless router.
Bishop on May 29, 2009 at 11:03 PM
If you have extra, barter for gold and ammunition. It does not get wealth where Obama can tax it.
Right_of_Attila on May 29, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Please send me his IP… ;-)
dmann on May 29, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Glen Beck is a true Libertarian Patriot. Read “Common Sense” by Thomas Paine and get red blood coursing thru your American patriot veins.
Geochelone on May 29, 2009 at 11:09 PM
I watched Hannity’s special tonight on stimulus waste. Enough to make you grind your teeth. I got some ideas for infrastructure-shovel ready jobs. I want high-speed internet in my area and they can pave my dirt road I live on.
TXMomof3 on May 29, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Buy it used, or better yet barter for it.
Or make it yourself! I’ve done that a few times for fun and profit and it worked out really well. I’m starting to think that maybe I should be a machinist/welder. That sounds fun.
Chaz706 on May 29, 2009 at 11:11 PM
By the way, Glenn is my new hero.
TXMomof3 on May 29, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Don’t forget that 793 billion is more than 1 million dollars a day for every day since the birth of Christ.
Perhaps that’s old news, but it’s worth repeating.
Chaz706 on May 29, 2009 at 11:13 PM
It would make more of an impact (and be entirely legal) if a million productive citizens threw a “Job Party,” that is, quit their jobs. Not only would the government lose Income Tax, they would lose SS tax, Medicare, and all the taxes and fees you would have spent on luxuries. A little prepwork and lifestyle-adjusting is all it would take to scare the pork out of politicians.
Too bad Republicans are all talk and zero walk.
TMK on May 29, 2009 at 11:14 PM
i just wont work
blatantblue on May 29, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Truth is, a large Galt movement could totally derail this Administration…If enough people decided to stop working/spending…cut back to the bare essentials on our terms, before Obama dictates the terms…it would be over for the Democrats. Don’t work the over-time…put the dreams of a higher standard of living on hold for now…buy only what you absolutely need, but no more. It would kill the economy…but on our terms, not Obama’s…we could make it so painful, we could run the democrats out of office by the mid-terms. He’s going to destroy our economy…forever…anyway…if we control when it happens and the conditions under which it recovers…we control the politics. It’s against our nature and will hurt us in the short term…but these are extraordinary times. Kill them before they kill us…the equivalent of national chemo-therapy.
Our terms could be simple…elect fiscal/defense conservatives or the pain continues…RINOs, Democrats, Obama…they are powerless against that.
We just need to organize.
AUINSC on May 29, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Well when I hear this kind of bunk I think of the lefty scumbag hippies who have popped up from time to time over the years saying they won’t pay their taxes because so much goes towards the military and waging wars. Let’s legalize pot, get the non-violent drug offenders out of prison, tax their toking, and fill the prisons with the jerks who are balking at paying relatively low taxes. Just think of some government activity you do support and imagine that your dollars are going there when you look at your pay stub.
I could get angry thinking about the billions raining on Wall Street or going to Acorn but I would rather kick back with a beer… look at my pay stub, and think of my bucks fueling and arming a B1B. Paying for the pilots, the support crew… getting that gorgeous bone high over AfPak just waiting for that transmission of the coordinates to the cave or villa where Osama or the bad Doctor are hiding. I have no problem paying for that and I suggest they conduct the same mental exercise.
lexhamfox on May 29, 2009 at 11:31 PM
I’d rather march on DC and string them all up. I like my job.
SouthernGent on May 29, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Wouldn’t we all, but you’ll only keep it on Obama’s terms…good deal?
AUINSC on May 29, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Obama hates the military…do you think he cares about B1B crews?
Force the issue now…make him dance to your tune…otherwise, we won’t have a US worth defending anymore.
AUINSC on May 29, 2009 at 11:41 PM
I’d rather march on DC and string them all up. I like my job.
SouthernGent on May 29, 2009 at 11:37 PM
My children would appreciate my husband and I keeping our jobs. They have grown used to a roof over their heads and daily meals. But, my point is, I made my reservations for the 9/12 march on DC. We need a huge turnout.
TXMomof3 on May 29, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Interestingly, Rush mentioned on his show that the tax revenue is down quite significantly for 2008.Of course this will increase our deficit.
In addition, he brought up the case of the state of Connecticut, where they raised the state income tax level last year (2008) and a third of the millionaires living there have left the state.
So I predict that we are going to see markedly lower tax revenues anyway, no matter if a million don’t pay or not. I agree with the comments about cutting back on all but essential spending, it seems very prudent to do so. But not paying taxes? Hmm…. I don’t think so. Not yet, anyway.
catlady on May 29, 2009 at 11:46 PM
If it were enacted as a class action with a court filing and a specific demand for redress I don’t think there’s a damn thing the government could do about it except give a specific answer and then we’d all be back on the hook for taxes owed.
Maybe.
Speakup on May 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM
TXMomof3 on May 29, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Ok I have missed this. What 9/12 march? Is there a website? I have been consumed with family stuff this week but thought I was keeping up!
catlady on May 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM
I’ve come to find in the last couple of years suppliers are more than willing to work with cash transactions.Now consider i order ten thousand feet of steel tubing from a friends mfg.Co. he runs the tubing writes it off as rejected material,puts 5 grand in his pocket and i have the base material to manufacture my product.Next i bring it to another friends mfg. Co. where i pay them to cut,form,weld and powdercoat my product for cash at ten dollars an hour under his normal shop rate.The final aspect is the customer base which fortunately does’nt want to show that they produce enough revenue to be able to purchase my product.Think you can pretty much fill in the blanks from there.
heshtesh on May 29, 2009 at 11:49 PM
A: jack-booted thugs.
mankai on May 29, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Ok I have missed this. What 9/12 march? Is there a website? I have been consumed with family stuff this week but thought I was keeping up!
catlady on May 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM
http://www.912dc.org
TXMomof3 on May 29, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Look…a direct tax embargo won’t work…you are setting yourselves up for prison terms. Not enough people will go along to cover you.
Controlling your earnings and spending will work. They can’t force you to work long hours yet…and they can’t force you to spend more money. You still control that. Tax evasion is illegal…economic retrenchment is not. And it will drastically cut their revenues. Then they are forced into a corner. Just keep doing what you are doing…but don’t do more. Fight your instincts to excel…anything extra you earn from here on out will only got to them…you are working for them.
Cut back, if you can, on earnings and spending. They’ll take it all eventually anyway. If you do it now…it will make a difference. If not, you’ll just work harder and harder for less and less.
AUINSC on May 29, 2009 at 11:56 PM
TXMomof3 on May 29, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Thanks very much!!
AUINSC on May 29, 2009 at 11:56 PM
In general I agree, but think that if you have any consumer debt (ie credit cards or possibly car loans) that if by working more overtime you can get these paid off you should do so. I also think that a savings nest egg at a non TARP bank might be a wise thing, too, though I am looking at gold as well…
catlady on May 30, 2009 at 12:01 AM
(who’s doing his part to reduce his income…)
acat on May 29, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Have to admit i’m not doing much to reduce mine but i’m doing everything possible to reduce thier’s.
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Why would lack of tax revenue limit the spending of this gov’t? They’ll just print more money.
jazz_piano on May 30, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Thank you…I’m not taking an absolutist position here. Do what you can according to your circumstances. Just don’t do more than you need to. That’s all I’m saying.
AUINSC on May 30, 2009 at 12:05 AM
They are doing anyway. The question isn’t whether the hard times will hit…it’s a question of when and who controls the terms. Obama and the Dems are playing a game…defer the pain until they control income and spending patterns…we’ll wind up in the same place, no matter what we do. The only question is who controls the buttons when that time comes.
AUINSC on May 30, 2009 at 12:08 AM
AMERICA, YOU NEED TO WAKE THE F UP, IF YOU HAVEN’T ALREADY… THIS IS YOUR POTUS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H68Ujc0wDnk
RightWinged on May 30, 2009 at 12:11 AM
I’m all for going Galt, just not for going to jail.
jazz_piano on May 30, 2009 at 12:11 AM
We are awake, unfortunately. Please, someone sedate me until 2013.
jazz_piano on May 30, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Enjoy your Bone while it lasts, it will not be replaced thanks to nObama, already 20+ at Davis-Monthan, another 8 years at best for the green plumed beasts!
dmann on May 30, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Then you and I agree. Going Galt is not illegal…what Beck and Nelson are advocating is. We can get the same results without the ‘going to jail’ part by going Galt.
AUINSC on May 30, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Bah. Conservative means having the integrity to live by the rules.
Ted Torgerson on May 29, 2009 at 10:15 PM
That would be fine if the Gov. was held to the same level of integrity that i’m expected to stand by.
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Here is what the IRS does if they don’t like what you are doing: This guy was in trouble for paying his employees in silver American coins, and telling them to pay taxes on the government’s official valuation rather than the ‘street value’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VJ3son-ha8
LegendHasIt on May 30, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Where the heck has Beck been since Obama was elected?
A million people have already stopped paying their taxes.
They are called the newly unemployed.
Victims of Barrynomics.
profitsbeard on May 30, 2009 at 12:28 AM
No Jail, but for example I own a business. We have restructured completely to use every legal tax law possible, something I never really had interest in till I looked into it do to O-hole. I saved literally tens of thousands in Taxes and will save even more next year as some of the strategies “ripen”. I agree we are in for hell no matter what we do, so saving as much as possible, putting it into hard assets (Gold, Stamps, Hot Rod cars, etc) that can be traded is only prudent.
I am under no obligation to finance O-holes Socialist dreams, in fact, the faster the wheels come off, the faster we can repeal this horror.
GunRunner on May 30, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Gold is a decent option, but the price is so volatile. It is hard to get, then once you get it, where do you put it
If we want to defeat this administration we need to adopt its tactics. Go to Amazon.com and order Saul Alinsky’s “Rulebook for Radicals.” Once you know how your enemy works you can counter (or maybe even adopt the same tactics).
cannonball on May 30, 2009 at 12:29 AM
It’s really quite simple let all the people who collect welfare,ssi and a host of other federal handouts pay income taxes,hell does’nt it fall in line with the same logic utilized by the current admin. as printing money and purchasing our own treasury bills.
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 12:39 AM
Dang, profitsbeard, you “stole” my line, on the 1 million already having stopped, because they’re unemployed…I was going to say that, but was busy ‘hunting’ for the inane things our ‘illustrious’ strangelet has posted.
Why are you allowed in here? You are, no doubt, the dumbest troll on HA.
I thought you lefties don’t judge people by how they look, most especially not those of you who’re above such pettiness. Imbecile, look in the mirror, but see your tiny brain first.
Schadenfreude on May 30, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Not really…the only thing of value is what you produce. Gold has been and will continue to be a loser. China has the gold to burn.
Obama and the Dems can only survive right now because of your labor and spending…the are counting on you and your children to pay for all of the bills they are running up.
Just say ‘No thanks!’
AUINSC on May 30, 2009 at 12:40 AM
LegendHasIt, thanks for the link. I’m thinking, with the extreme shortage of ammunition, since the Zero was elected, what if they impose a rule to stop/regulate production of such?
Indeed, go bartering and go gulching. Just don’t support these crazy ideas, which are mushrooming by the minutes, only on one destructive direction.
Pravda is laughing at our rapid move toward socialism/Marxism – what an alternate universe we live in.
Schadenfreude on May 30, 2009 at 12:48 AM
It doesn’t matter here what Ghandi said.
Jesus said to pay your taxes, and he said it when there was rampant corruption going on. I trust my life with him no matter what.
therightscoop on May 30, 2009 at 12:51 AM
1913 is when our real demise began – Obama is a rapid apotheosis thereof.
Schadenfreude on May 30, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Schadenfreude on May 30, 2009 at 12:48 AM
Funny you mention the ammo shortage just recieved 1000rnds.of 7.62 x 39 today after 4 months of waiting,when i ordered they would only let me order 500rnds. in a 30 day period fortunately one of my friends was visiting while i was ordering so i used his credit card to order the second 500 rnds.
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 12:59 AM
lots of talk on here
i didn’t talk
i acted
don’t care if they haul me away
i will not pay into the destruction of my country
JJKRN on May 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM
She comes here to get people to click on the links she usually adds to her posts. Payola? I fell for it the first time she posted. No more.
Cindy Munford on May 30, 2009 at 1:09 AM
lots of talk on here
i didn’t talk
i acted
don’t care if they haul me away
i will not pay into the destruction of my country
JJKRN on May 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM
If this crap continues to go on unabated it could well be the best place for me and those around me if i were to end up in jail.
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 1:10 AM
You mean the looters and moochers would then feed the producers?
Schadenfreude on May 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM
You mean the looters and moochers would then feed the producers?
Schadenfreude on May 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Perhaps i had best eat a good meal before they cart me away.
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 1:22 AM
But you trust in your paychecks and social services more.
TMK on May 30, 2009 at 1:23 AM
O/T I notice no quote of the day tonight Allah must be embarrassed after last nights effort.
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 1:34 AM
What was wrong with last night’s QOTD? Got me fired up.
MadisonConservative on May 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM
Pretty sad state of affairs when one of the rare times Pravda lives up to it’s name (Pravda =truth in Russian) it is to laugh at America for rolling over for marxism so easily.
I never thought of it before, but it is a horrible commentary on the wimpiness of America. All the other major and many of the minor nations that went marxist had to slaughter millions of their own citizens in order to do it. We gave away our vastly superior system for nothing more than empty teleprompted promises from empty heads inside empty Armani suits..
LegendHasIt on May 30, 2009 at 1:51 AM
Legend, I’ve never seen it expressed better. How sad it is.
Schadenfreude on May 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM
What was wrong with last night’s QOTD? Got me fired up.
MadisonConservative on May 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM
Maybe it was just me did’nt motivate me to want to participate.
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 2:01 AM
So we pull a million Geithners?
Where do I sign up?
Sapwolf on May 30, 2009 at 2:07 AM
Hey, I actually put ON weight after a weekend in the St. Joseph County Jail for the Notre Dame protest.
Sapwolf on May 30, 2009 at 2:09 AM
O/T Nice little story in the green room regarding GOP VS Dem dealership closings.
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Wanna grab a tax cheat?
Just grab Tim Geithner
Birdseye on May 30, 2009 at 2:15 AM
Then you would have been a King’s man during the American Revolution?
FloatingRock on May 30, 2009 at 2:17 AM
When I did my taxes last April I discovered I was getting a rebate (I had to pay every year during Clinton and got rebates every year during Bush). When I got my rebate check in the mail it was for more than what I expected. A few days later a got a notice from the IRS saying there was an error on my forms in my favor; I forgot to include a standard deduction that almost everybody receives. That got me to thinking.
What if instead of millions refusing to pay taxes and have a lot of people risk prison, millions of people “forget” to include this common deduction? You will be paying a little bit more so it’s not tax evasion. But think about all the extra work the IRS will have to do to correct these errors by sending millions of checks in the amount of the deduction. And if they fail to send all these checks, can the IRS be sued?
AaronGuzman on May 30, 2009 at 2:31 AM
Already stopped. On January 20th I stopped paying and will decide what to do next April. There’s no way I’m funding this bullshit.
Flyboy on May 30, 2009 at 2:58 AM
go gault do not go to jail
Grunt on May 30, 2009 at 3:41 AM
Good thing we have a 99% voting rate in the United States of Amercia to keep our politicians honest………….
………. I was almost getting worried.
Seven Percent Solution on May 30, 2009 at 3:55 AM
Good thing we have a 99% voting rate in the United States of Amercia to keep our politicians honest………….
………. I was almost getting worried.
Seven Percent Solution on May 30, 2009 at 3:55 AM
And the participation clearly speeks for it self!
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 4:46 AM
speaks itself
Good night
heshtesh on May 30, 2009 at 4:49 AM
Great idea, but….
For every working Joe who goes Galt, there is probably some Obama-loving lefty millionaire entertainer living in Hollywood who would step up to the plate and do the “patriotic thing” and pay extra in taxes.
But seriously, I don’t see how someone like me could go Galt. I work for a large corporation, and my taxes are withheld by my employer. I could change my withholding to the minimum, and not file a tax return next April. I might get away with that for a little while (a few months?) but then they’d catch up with me and haul my ass off to jail and take everything I own.
The wife would not be too pleased with that.
UltimateBob on May 30, 2009 at 5:35 AM
I have a feeling they would find a way to get their money.
Terrye on May 30, 2009 at 6:24 AM
Didn’t read all the comments, so I apologize if this has been stated before.
Not paying taxes is too extreme at this point–not to mention illegal. But sick-outs and work stoppages will accomplish much of the same thing without most of the legal repercussions.
National strikes are a very effective way of showing strength, and of illustrating the potential power a group possesses, and they will scare the government to death.
JiangxiDad on May 30, 2009 at 6:57 AM
I have not read American Lion because Jon Meacham is an intellectualy dishonest hack but I have read plenty other works on Andrew Jackson and am pretty confident that both Meacham and yourself are the ones he would have shot. Jackson was a Jeffersonian Democrat which is a completely different breed than the FDR democrats we see today.
One person Jackon definitely would have shot is Tim Geithner and followed that up with everyone at the FDIC.
Daemonocracy on May 30, 2009 at 7:42 AM
I was hoping that 2009 was gonna be the big tax revolt. Then I remembered half of the US has rocks for brains. Well, I’ll give it another year. That’s 365 days, morons.
Coronagold on May 30, 2009 at 7:49 AM
lol. Rosie O’Donnel, Keith Olbermann, Ed Schulz, Michael Moore, Bernie Ward, Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar and the freshly nominated Sotomayer are all on the hefty side.
Daemonocracy on May 30, 2009 at 7:51 AM
You live right above AP’s apartment, too?
blatantblue on May 30, 2009 at 7:52 AM
LOL.
But last year was a leap year, 366 days.
Daemonocracy on May 30, 2009 at 7:53 AM
While I agree, it is also good to note that the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to say that the man that doesn’t work doesn’t eat. Helping the poor and downtrodden is noble, robbing someone else to do it is immoral.
jimmy2shoes on May 30, 2009 at 8:16 AM
I screwed up my taxes this year. I owed $600 more than I paid. Within 1 month of filing I got a bill in the mail for the 600. No fines or penalties, just $1.25 in interest. I was sad, I didn’t even get a cabinent appointment. Guess next year I’ll have to try harder.
boomer on May 30, 2009 at 8:21 AM
President Jackson’s 10 JUL 1832 Bank Veto Message.
A choice bit:
Why this selection rather than the more famous ones later in the speech?
First, Republicans need to be reminded that the concept of ‘privitization’ did not start in the 20th century but the 19th in the US. His suggestion to open the bank to be held by common stocks held by Americans so they could run their own affairs by choosing who is on the board and not have political appointees do it is a strong denunciation of the centralization of power to the federal government. He more strongly goes over that later in the Veto.
Second, the National Bank had to be re-authorized. When was the last time Fannie, Freddie or the Federal Reserve had to be re-authorized? The founders made it clear with how they viewed the armed forces that Congress needs to take positive action in keeping parts of government vital to the Nation open and operating, thus requiring re-authorization so that abusive insititutions could be shut down and removed. That happened with the National Bank, the equivalent of our Federal Reserve. We lived quite well for over 70 years without such an institution. Amazing as it may seem, Americans figured out how to run their own fiscal concerns without the oversight of the federal government from such an institution.
Third, the monopoly power of government needs close oversight, checks and to be divested as soon as possible when such monopolies prove to be against the Nation’s interest and are corrupted by political influence. That is one of the major problems with any National Bank, Federal Reserve or other guaranty system backed by the government by un-elected appointees. See Fannie and Freddie for that today.
Unlike most modern Vetos, he goes through the entire set of interests of the Nation for such an institution, not only economically, but politically and for the defense of the Nation. It is a wide-ranging document to examine the corruption of power and the venues that power can utilize institutions to corrupt ends. To that end he goes over SCOTUS decisions and examines them, and then compares them to the directives for the government in the Constitution. The ‘degree of necessity’ argument is pointedly taken in that context, and was a major factor in what institutions are necessary and to what degree, and what is justified in having and running them. That turns out to be a key point as Congress can also create a non-monopoly: competing banks and interests given into the hands of the people of the Nation to run under government charter. That has bureaucratic inefficiency, but by putting competing interests at work there are checks and balance via the marketplace which would ensure a moderating influence on the organizations involved.
No one can say that a man who actually removes a major part of the federal government (can you imagine any President since Woodrow Wilson actually putting a veto on the Federal Reserve?) which would be one of the largest, if not in terms of scale to the Nation, largest removal of federal power in US history, dwarfing later FDR organs that got shut down.
It really is a wide-ranging attack on the power of the US government to avoid taxes, avoid oversight and avoid accountability. We were well served without it through the worst war in US history, the US Civil War, and created a strong industrial Nation that would quickly move to the forefront of all Nations in the early 20th century… all WITHOUT a National Bank or other form of federal structure like the Federal Reserve.
The most cited passage is as follows:
Not that we have seen attempts to make the rains from Heaven fall via Justice upon some and not others… heaven forbid! That is ‘fairness’ to do that, not being equal citizens before the law.
I still await the wisdom to hand out equal shares of all these ‘bailout’ companies to the Amemrican People so we can determine our own destiny without the ‘help’ of the federal government. We can do a damned sight better job of that than any bureaucrat, any politician, any judge. Because we are the source of the wisdom of the Nation, not those institutions.
ajacksonian on May 30, 2009 at 8:24 AM
I see we have one cerebral troll.
/s
CWforFreedom on May 30, 2009 at 8:26 AM
If you’re suckling off of someone else’s internet teat, you’re not going Galt. You’re a parasite.
Get you’re own internet connection.
Kim Priestap on May 30, 2009 at 8:29 AM
If you’re suckling off of someone else’s internet teat, you’re not going Galt. You’re a parasite.
Get your own internet connection.
Kim Priestap on May 30, 2009 at 8:29 AM
BTW this past week the CITY of COLUMBUS OHIO made it known that they need to increase their income tax. It should be noted that President Obama made a big deal about saving 25 police recruit jobs. This story made national news at the time. If the city does not pass its tax those 25 jobs will be cut. Hmmmm interesting. The American dupe has been played. Elections have consequences. Nice job Dems and Rinos.
CWforFreedom on May 30, 2009 at 8:30 AM
wow…quick to judge without knowing the whole story.
been there done that. recipe for trouble.
CWforFreedom on May 30, 2009 at 8:32 AM
An idea for how to starve the Beast…
We took out 401K loans with short repayment timeframes to pay for college. Since repayment comes out before taxes, the repayments drastically lower our taxable income. Also since it comes out BEFORE taxes, it isn’t as noticeable.
Why couldn’t you do the same, but use the amount to pay off debt, pre-pay mortgage or save for future bills? We’ve cut our taxable income by a quarter! We are starving the beast for next year.
We also did this just BEFORE the stock plunge… so the repayment is now buying back stocks at a cheaper price.
I know most financial people wouldn’t advise it… but we’re not living in normal times…
dominigan on May 30, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Yeah… ticks me off since I live in a suburb outside Columbus.
I also hate it because of the screwed up way they do the local taxes. I have to pay Columbus taxes (which are planned for going up), and only get a partial credit for the suburb I live in. I’m taxed in Columbus. I’m taxed in my suburb. I can vote on issues in my suburb. I CAN’T VOTE ON ISSUES IN COLUMBUS!
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!
dominigan on May 30, 2009 at 8:35 AM
We have been in that situation with Columbus too. I would be interested in finding out the percentage of revenue from outside the city limits. I bet it is fairly high.
CWforFreedom on May 30, 2009 at 8:41 AM
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