Glenn Beck: Hey, what if a million people stopped paying their taxes in protest?
posted at 9:15 pm on May 29, 2009 by Allahpundit
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A follow-up to last night’s Craig T. Nelson cry of rebellion against … whatever, worth watching for the harrowing perspective Beck provides on just how much of the national debt load each of us carry. He’s careful to say for liability purposes that he’s not condoning this, no doubt to the relief of Fox News’s legal department, but he pretty clearly wouldn’t be heartbroken if a grassroots movement to this end arose on its own. I remember a lot of fiscal cons baiting me in the comments here for endorsing TARP way back when. Who’s in?
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One of Alinski’s rules is to hold the enemy to their own rule book. Make them keep their promises. It will destroy liberals.
Right_of_Attila on May 30, 2009 at 8:42 AM
A few years ago Kent Hovind, a creationist from Florida, was put in jail for avoiding payment of taxes. The case he had made sense in the limited scope of his defiance – he was not an across the board, pay-no-taxes-whatsoever kind of protester you often hear about. He had a very narrow, very specific objection. But his argument did not fly. He’s now been in jail for a couple years, and I believe his wife recently was incarcerated as well.
The point, as was posted somewhere above: if 1 million or more Americans refused to pay their taxes next April, then within a few years the Fed will see to it that prisons will have 1 million new inmates. It’s that simple. They can do it, and they’ve proved to my satisfaction that they would.
You all can talk all you want about refusing to pay taxes, and in my heart I am with you. But a tax revolt on the scale Beck is talking about might have made an impact even four years ago. Now? Public opinion would again be manipulated against all who participate, and your imprisonment will be trumpeted as good for the country. Obama and his cronies – the real enemies of the people – will convince the majority that YOU are the enemies. They’d REALLY believe it, too, and gladly pay for the construction of new prisons just for you, if need be.
Unless you’re willing to shed your blood for the reclamation of this nation, and do it in the numbers that it’d take to make the difference, this fight is already lost. No, it’s not already lost. No offense, but there isn’t even a fight. Just talk. You do not have the numbers required. You never will. Decades ago? Maybe. Not now.
This isn’t the America you think it is. These aren’t the American people you think they are.
splink on May 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM
So, I can quit my job as a form of protest. It would be no trouble to forgo the “pursuit of happiness” for a year or two, but I have two children who like to eat. They eat more-and-more every day. Someitmes I joke and tell my wife that I’ve worked and paid taxes for 28 years and now I think I should get something out of the system. That’s not realistic.
Dropping out of the system is only going to get a lot of people in trouble. This administration has no qualms at printing money and borrowing it to further its political agendas. I think the government would perceive a wide scale tax revolt as an opportunity to keep a lot of members of the opposition away from the polls.
What we need are truly conservative representatives and senators who have the C.A. Jones to stand up to this administration in responsible and logical ways. If the Democrats and the Obama administration propose a national sales tax, then the conservatives in the GOP should propose a move to repeal the 16th Amendment. If you want a reasoned revolt, the GOP should push and publicize legislation to end tax withholding from people’s paychecks.
If you want real and lasting tax revolt, end withholding. If the citizen’s of this nation had to write one big horse choking check on April 15th, then we could start talking about real revolt.
It’s going to be hard to foment revolt when people are receiving checks from the government (Obamadollars) and they never really feel the sting of paying taxes. Most Americans now perceive a tax refund check as some sort of gift from the government. Few realize that they earned those dollars and had them seized on payday.
I’m all for sticking it to the government, but there’s no reason to self-destruct because we’re angry at the Democrats. They’re going to do enough to foment revolt over the next 18 months. National sales tax (without the repeal of the income tax). Value added taxes (a magnificent recipe for stagflation). Soft drink and alcohol taxes. These things will really anger a lot of people.
The question is if the Republican party is brave enough and smart enough to turn these boneheaded proposals around on the left. What we need is a new party. We should first revolt against the GOP. They’re as responsible for this mess as the Democrats.
Ampleforth on May 30, 2009 at 8:57 AM
I think this has been going on for a long time–maybe 100 years or so. It’s just that its reached a tipping point now. (My own people are part and parcel of the socialist plague we face–they contributed to Americas growth in one way, but they also contribute to its downfall.) Plenty of stuff has been written about the inevitable nature of the situation we now find ourselves in. So in a certain respect, the place we are now was predicted by men smarter than we, and what we’re feeling now is the surprise at having been taken unawares. Read scholarly works about the declines of former great empires. The parallels to ours is amazing.
Imo, the biggest problem facing the world is that no nation is currently prepared to accept the mantle of western civilization from us, as we accepted it from England after it was too exhausted to continue. So we will enter a new dark age, until enough time passes that the cycle begins again. Also, there probably will be places that endure this much better than others–my guess is on parts of Asia.
JiangxiDad on May 30, 2009 at 9:01 AM
I would prefer to make a different protests and conduct them incrementally. For example, another day of tea parties prehaps followed by a national strike for a day. If Congress was still tone deaf more strikes for longer periods. Actually I am surprised truckers haven’t been more vocal.
diogenes on May 30, 2009 at 9:12 AM
Well first of all Beck needed to provide more specifics. It is not a matter that a million people stop paying taxes. It has to be the ‘right kind of people’ that stop paying taxes. Getting a million people who make less than $40k a year will never be noticed. They don’t pay taxes anyway.
But if one was able to get a million of the top 5% to stop paying taxes that would have a massive impact. Fact it would come close to toppling the government. The irony is that top 5% have the means to stop paying taxes. They leave. If you are in that tax bracket, locale has less meaning from a fiscal perspective than that of a construction worker.
Just sayin’.
Dr. Dog on May 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM
ROFLMAO
Now that Lord Obama, the messiah, our savior, the munificent, the benevolent, Peace Be Upon Him, Hallowed be his name, is our president, not only is it our patriotic duty to pay taxes, it is now CHRISTIAN.
lol, you fools are so transparent in your lame attempts at persuasive propaganda. You sound like a 13 year old female with her first case of infatuation.
Skandia Recluse on May 30, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Our guys should be pushing legislation to end withholding each and every session of Congress until it finally passes.
petefrt on May 30, 2009 at 9:19 AM
Congrats. You get it. They can let you keep your money but steal its value but issuing more bank notes. Money is just paper, and represents a value relative to the volume of that paper it takes to purchase goods and services. Obama nows owns the printing press that makes the money, so not paying your taxes will not save you.
One more time, we all need to think back and remember everyone we know that voted for this “change”. It is they who are the real enemy here.
MikeA on May 30, 2009 at 9:22 AM
O/T here but a good read. Sarah Palin explains her refusal to take more TARP funds
conservnut on May 30, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Watch at 4:00 on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ukJiBZ8_4k
LtE126 on May 30, 2009 at 9:29 AM
I dunno. It strikes me that some apsects of going GALT are an unintentionally self-defeating strategy. It’s one thing to pay the minimum of taxes, move to a tax friendly state, or save because you’re worried about being unemployed in the future.
But the not spending aspect of going GALT also starves businesses of revenue, including local businesses, leading to higher unemployement. Eventually we have a full-blown Depression, a ‘crisis’ which leads to an expanded welfare state (not to mention ’social unrest’, riots, and the like)- which only increases the government’s power.
Buy Danish on May 30, 2009 at 9:29 AM
And this is even better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMTDaVpBPR0&feature=related
LtE126 on May 30, 2009 at 9:31 AM
I have advocated this for years. The politicians (both sides) will never allow it. They opposed the “Tax Holiday” for the same reason. If they allowed us to have bigger paychecks for a while then took it back away, the stupid sheepeople out there would finally realize it’s their money being stolen out of each paycheck.
conservnut on May 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM
LtE….
Wallace is having a hard time with Rand. Her ideas are conflicting with his own inner collectivist. He’s dripping with contempt.
katy on May 30, 2009 at 9:38 AM
I am changing my tax witholding in order to break even. I know that it is a piddling bit, but I don’t want this government to have the use of 1 penny of my money that I am not obligated to pay. We pay over $800 per month in state and federal taxes, not including taxes for our telephones, internet, cable, sales tax, car tax, gas tax and property taxes. enough is enough. I’m hoping that when the Bush tax cuts expire next year that there are thousands of people who went from making 250K to making 248K. If there was a legal way to stop paying taxes in protest I would do it. I would be happy to pay my taxes into some type of escrow account while the issues were resolved.
kringeesmom on May 30, 2009 at 9:40 AM
I think the “interesting” part of the thought that the govt would put 1 Million tax protesters in jail is to look at the result. 1 million people who actually are part of the tax paying crowd suddenly stop paying taxes, go to jail thereby, join the 40% of Americans who don’t pay taxes and also joining those Americans on the public trough.
katablog.com on May 30, 2009 at 9:44 AM
You are thinking American History. Think “labor camp” and you’ll get a more clear picture.
MikeA on May 30, 2009 at 9:49 AM
How many people are actually sent to prison for tax evasion? Is there room in the prisons for tax cheats?
Not advocating breaking the law, just curious.
jazz_piano on May 30, 2009 at 9:55 AM
It’s not as if the current situation is stable. Even absent a coherent plan, amazing provocations and reactions lie ahead. This whole situation will resolve itself one way or another. There’s no longer any chance of standing still. Once the snowball started rolling, and it has, I doubt anyone will be able to stop it.
JiangxiDad on May 30, 2009 at 9:56 AM
I am all for massive protests, but I don’t think that not paying taxes is the dramatic step that Beck hopes it is. Several good points have already been mentioned:
1) This administration doesn’t care; they will spend the money anyway.
2) Inflation is it’s own form of taxation.
3) Obama & co. would happily throw 1,000,000 of it’s most ardent critics in jail.
I could see this really back firing. The time and effort is better spent pressuring your state gov to stand up to the f-gov.
bitsy on May 30, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Most if not all of them who are not wealthy enough to hide their money in the first place. If there’s one thing the gov’t has been utterly merciless in prosecuting, it’s tax cheats/protesters (same thing in their eyes, regardless of the reasoning behind individual cases).
If there is ANY hope, it lies there. Not with “the people.”
splink on May 30, 2009 at 10:12 AM
read most of the posts on here
chicken shits afraid of going to jail
how far are you willing to go to to save this country
apparently only so far
talk/blogging is cheap
if i have to live in a cave and eat berries i will
my kids like deer meat
i am not paying one more dime to finance these Marxists
good luck to all….bunch of pansy asses…
talk your way into the coming gulag…i am fighting by every means
this is AMERICA….
JJKRN on May 30, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Many are surprised, but many of us are not…we know history as you do, and expected this from all the plain signs that have been around for decades if not centuries.
What I think we (the informed) are feeling is not surprise, but a bit of resentment that we have to be the ones that are alive to actually see it coming to pass. Others before us thought they were, and they were wrong. We’re not. It’s here. I admit I’m a bit resentful and selfish about that…a big part of me would rather not know, would rather not see. But what is seen can’t be unseen, as they say. So for me it’s a mix of resentment and hopelessness, because the enemy has so sewn it up that there’s nothing…or near nothing…our relatively small number can do about it.
splink on May 30, 2009 at 10:16 AM
over and OUT
JJKRN on May 30, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Two words for you:
Randy Weaver.
splink on May 30, 2009 at 10:18 AM
There is no more “we, the people.” It’s now “we, the peoples.” That’s Beck’s fundamental mistake in all this.
splink on May 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM
You read my mind. I ordered it a couple weeks ago from Amazon.
Read this article, too. It describes WHY Obama is destroying the economy.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967
Daggett on May 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM
I don’t know.
But there’s plenty of room in the Obama administration.
Daggett on May 30, 2009 at 10:25 AM
I’ve increased my exemptions to the maximum allowed. I may owe at the end of the year, but DC is likely to notice the shortfall in the interim.
Physics Geek on May 30, 2009 at 10:29 AM
It should be required reading for anyone with any interest in current events; I’ve forwarded it to lots of folks. I do disagree with the general assumption (which I’ve read elsewhere) that the Obama administration has been the only one interested in seeing Cloward-Piven come to fruition.
splink on May 30, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Have you seen Michelle’s document drops on ACORN? Guess who was on the receiving end of emails?
Yep, Frances Piven.
Buy Danish on May 30, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I don’t think that is acurate. I think the majority are in play here, but the left is so good at division and chaos.
If there was a clear and simple message with a committed messenger able to rally a revolt we would see a turn about.
Unfortunately, we keep buying into the left’s big tent mantra which keeps the division dialog going and prevents us from finding a cohesive agenda.
katy on May 30, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Dear Lord. Too late to do any good, though. Damage is done.
splink on May 30, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Obama’s phony “tax cut for 95% of Americans” has created a shortfall because much of his “tax cut” is nothing more than a welfare payment to people who don’t pay federal income taxes (instead of being exclusively a rebate to people who pay taxes).
Yes, revenues are down because of the recession, but I would love to have the numbers on the total dollar amount this “tax cut” scheme has cost the federal treasury.
Buy Danish on May 30, 2009 at 10:40 AM
I watched all three segments of the interview. Pretty interesting. You can also see how much of a leftest Mike Wallace was even in 1959.
conservnut on May 30, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Katy, you already know this but “the people” vote. Not all of them, but enough of them.
The majority of “the people” know and believe only what they hear and see from The Media. Always have, always will.
Control The Media and you’ll control what they think.
Control what they think and you’ll control how they vote.
Who controls The Media? Who has always controlled it?
How, for example, do you think the majority of “the people” view the Tea Parties? They view them as malcontents, disturbers of the peace, or racist freaks…exactly as they’ve been told to view them.
How do you counter that in the numbers required to make any real difference?
splink on May 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM
How about when you have determined your tax obligation, you send a check in the amount you desire to the organization of your choice until you have reached the limit of your obligation.
For example, I owed $2,500. I read the Constitution and see the primary obligation of the Constitution is to provide for the common defense. So, I value that service as worth 50% of my obligation or $1,250. I write a check to the DOD, or check off the box on the tax form titled DOD and write in the amount I want them to receive from my obligation.
Similarly, I see that the Government is composed of three parts. Executive, Judiciary, Congress. Then of the remaining amount $1,250 15% or $187 goes to pay the cost of their operations (salary, office space, equipment/supplies etc.)
Now, enforcing the laws, we enacted is important so another 15% goes to the FBI, DEA, etc.
Next infrastructure is important so another 15% to the DOT.
If the cost of any of the agencies of my choice find they have a surplus at the end of the year then that is where my refund is derived.
The remaining 1% goes to discretionary funds.
MSGTAS on May 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM
Actually no they could not. This assertion is utter nonsense. They have no ability to house or feed or guard that many individuals. The backlash would be fierce. The government would crumble.
dogsoldier on May 30, 2009 at 10:51 AM
If only we had an investigative media who weren’t intimidated by Obama campaign thugs screaming at them with idiotic charges that they are working for the ‘right wing attack machine’.
Although, I don’t think it’s too late. These documents are going to be impossible for the MSM to ignore.
Meanwhile, in another document drop, old school liberals like Bartel Bull are going after Obama over the D.O.J.’s decision vis a vis the New Black Panthers.
Last night he was on O’Reilly and said (I paraphrase) – Martin Luther King didn’t die so black booted thugs could block people from voting. He stated that the Holder D.O.J. dropped charges against the Black Panthers because it’s “political”, that it’s not about the 3 defendants, but about the entire party – who helped Obama get elected.
Buy Danish on May 30, 2009 at 11:00 AM
I’d love to agree with you. But your prediction of backlash would only be realistic in a nation where (a) there weren’t so many voting people who DON’T pay taxes, and so would have zero empathy with tax protesters, (b) the number of voting people in this country who are slaves to the gov’t via the tax dollars of others (welfare) wasn’t so high, and (c) there wasn’t a media that would portray protesters 24/7 as racists who don’t want their money going to a black president, as tea party folks have already been portrayed.
Basically, your prediction of backlash assumes a level of intelligence and capacity for forming their own opinions that “the people” clearly lack.
And, yes, I am convinced the gov’t damn well would lock up that many protesters if it had to. But I said that knowing it wouldn’t have to. It’d only need to make examples of a few dozen or so, while steered public opinion does the rest. The result: most everyone else who might have considered protesting will get quiet, fast.
splink on May 30, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Ignore it? Maybe, maybe not.
Explain it away to the satisfaction of enough people to make it irrelevant? Five will get you ten that’s what’ll happen. Such a story would not die on talk radio and blogs, but we’ve already seen what a substantial difference that makes on a national scale, haven’t we.
splink on May 30, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Forgive me for sounding sarcastic there, I’m really not trying to be. I’m just a convinced pessimist. I’m not sure precisely when this country morphed into a democracy, but it was at that point that someone should have started planning the funeral (no doubt some did).
splink on May 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM
No need to apologize. I understand your sentiments and I am not naive as to what the obstacles are. However, I do believe that when people like Bartel Bull begin protesting there is a glimmer of hope.
Buy Danish on May 30, 2009 at 11:12 AM
I don’t know of the man. Who is he?
splink on May 30, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Maybe Glenn should ask the Freemen what happens when you don’t pay taxes
Wyznowski on May 30, 2009 at 11:18 AM
I have permission.
FloatingRock on May 30, 2009 at 11:19 AM
You are correct, though incomplete in that thought. This is the same problem another then-new communist government had back in 1975. That bunch was called the Khmer Rouge, and they found a very practicle solution to the lack of prison space. Socialists are nothing if not practicle; or as they now prefer to say, pragmatic.
MikeA on May 30, 2009 at 11:20 AM
The problem is that liberals are suicidal, so forcing them to keep their promises, which kills America, doesn’t work. The liberals are perfectly happy to see everything come crashing down. In fact, they welcome the thought, as that will give them the excuse to call Martial Law, which is what they want to do, anyway.
Alinsky’s “rules” only work against an enemy who has self-preservation, and the preservation fo the system, in mind. Liberals are like suicide bombers who just want to see as much destruction caused as possible, because they hate themselves and everyone who looks like them.
This is the same problem with trying to employ Mutually Assured Destruction against a bunch of irrational lunatics, like the Iranians, as opposed to using it against a greedy, but rational, Soviet state.
progressoverpeace on May 30, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Bartle Bull? Here’s his WIKI page with links to his website.
Buy Danish on May 30, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Dead on.
splink on May 30, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Our situation here is in the US is different. It’s not exclusively about liberalism vs. some other ideology. It’s mixed with racial conflict. Liberalism is being used a a unifying cloak to cover a myriad of groups who wish to see white people dis-empowered in the US. I know that liberalism has that element of delight at destruction of the system that you mention, but in those places where whites are already gone (inner cities, CA, NY, etc.), the conflicts between the remaining “minorities” for a place in the pecking order is already well underway. So not every liberal wants it all gone. Should they prevail, there will be new winners and losers among the liberals, and one or more of the current minority groups that are currently under the liberal umbrella will be kicked out, like the jews are now for ex.
I think gays and white liberal women will be first in line for targeting, then religious “people of color.” Whatever.
JiangxiDad on May 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM
I only watched Part I. I thought Wallace was terrific, and I found her new morality somewhat familiar as I have two young children. She defines happiness as a child would. She doesn’t know that true happiness is found in the happiness of others. She thinks love is something to be earned, to be worthy of. That’s admiration not love. She doesn’t understand what agape love is.
Ted Torgerson on May 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Wouldn’t that still result in it all “crashing down,” though?
splink on May 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Yes, but that is part of the Obama plan. The very reason they are now dismantling the econmy, industry, taxation and debt systems is that it is necessary for have it “crash”/ Then the peole will tolerate having it put back together is a new model, just to have it seem like someone is doing something to “fix” it. So to fix it it has to be completly broken. It is all right there to read, from Germany in the 1930’s.
MikeA on May 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Very true. I was only addressing white liberals. Unfortunately, the black militants who are allied with the white liberals want to see the same thing the white liberals want – the destruction of whites – which is why they both get along so well. The white liberals want to die and the black militants want to kill them. Everyone’s happy. This is the old 60’s coalition and what The Precedent has brought back to life, with a vengeance.
As to the other minority groups, they are fairly inconsequential and will be thrown away with little regard by the self-hating white liberals and the society-hating black militants.
progressoverpeace on May 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM
And so the John Galting continues. Who’d a thunk it?
Woody on May 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Reading the many comments riffing off this quote has made my week. It is very heartening to see how many folks out there actually get it.
Thank you all!
Bruno Strozek on May 30, 2009 at 12:33 PM
So there is a silver lining :)
JiangxiDad on May 30, 2009 at 12:56 PM
They are already working on a plan:
Step 1) Release the prisoners from GITMO and set them free in the US
Step 2) Lock up all the tax cheats, protesters, tea partiers, right wing gun nuts, anyone who speaks out against Obama, etc. in the former GITMO, which will be given a cute new name, like.. hmmmm… what should we call it…. a concentration camp?
UltimateBob on May 30, 2009 at 1:20 PM
I am convinced that this country will be made unrecognizable in the next four years. VAT taxes, higher income taxes, socialist health care, socialist automobile manufacturing, nationalization of the banking and insurance industries, and more. And I don’t know what to do. I suspect we will need to move to another country.
Outlander on May 30, 2009 at 1:30 PM
I stated earlier in the week that I’m not a Beck fan. He continues to do things for effect that I find irresponsible.
This is one.
AnninCA on May 30, 2009 at 1:37 PM
I’m less worried than I was in the primary, to be honest. Obama has done the exact same thing that CA did, which is to delude himself that there is money for all of his programs.
There simply isn’t.
He’ll find that out, too.
AnninCA on May 30, 2009 at 1:38 PM
I’m not a Beck fan either, or any other kind of fan. But unless we all want to just wait for the knock on our own door in the night, some “irresponsibility” is going to have to occur. When a nation is being overwhelmed by an evil of the type we are seeing, playing nice with it is not going to come out in our favor.
MikeA on May 30, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Do you think anything would be different in CA today if the state there owned a dollar printing press?
MikeA on May 30, 2009 at 1:44 PM
If the US were to, sadly, succumb to the leftist disease, American conservatives would end becoming something like the new Jews:
1) A people whose creed is defined by the US Constitution, and other writings of the Founders, and who subscribe to basic principles of individual liberty and private property – principles which are respected nowhere else in the world.
2) kicked out of a land that was given to them by G-d (so to speak) over which this creed was to be implemented (Divine Providence and Manifest Destiny) and which was built on the blood of patriots.
3) serving exile in a world that is unfriendly to this creed that has already showed the powerful society it bears as fruit of its following. As they carry this creed to other places and outperform those people, they will be hated and set upon by those who don’t like the competition and resent the foreign intrusion.
I just find the parallels fascinating, though this is a very rough analogy.
progressoverpeace on May 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM
****THE JULY 1, 2009 MORTGAGE “TEA” PARTY******
Not paying taxes takes way too long and surrenders the moral high ground to the Looters…
Better choice!!
STARTING JULY 1, 2009 Don’t pay your mortgage and credit cards (you can be late for a couple months with no serious effects on you and your credit) and you have an even greater effect and a much quicker effect, and most importantly, according to the Obama Administration, you are politically correct (hell, modify your mortgage). It’s the same FED that has to deal with the lack of tax revenues has to handle these potential defaults, but this “enmasse” default on even 250,000 mortgages causes geometric numbers of pooled mortgage securities to go into default and those banks and financial institutions that either own them or guarantee them (Default Credit Swap)then have to be bailed out by the government……If 1 million citizens didn’t make their payments at the same time, within three months the government would have to take action, and there is no room in the FED to take any such action because the Bond market won’t participate….and this becomes a priority over the Obama and Democrat programs, ie, Socialized Medicine, or any of the other Socialism they are trying to install on our dime. Stops Obama cold……besides, what are they gonna do with another 1,000,000 houses on the market???? They will take six months before they even file Foreclosure….and the credit card companies will just choke, can’t do a dang thing to you….Your FICO may go down…BFD
Remember, you can go to jail for not paying your taxes, but you get taxpayer money when you don’t make your mortgage payment
colonelkurtz on May 30, 2009 at 2:03 PM
I agree. But now that we know what’s up, we have only one administration to deal with — the current one.
It was the link in Michelle’s article that made me aware of the Cloward-Piven Strategy.
Suddenly the connections between Obama, ACORN, Soros and Piven and the fact that he’s deliberately crashing the economy made sense.
The MSM should investigate the bahooties out of this and plaster it all over the place, but won’t, I’m sure.
Daggett on May 30, 2009 at 2:34 PM
P.S. I sent the link to the Cloward-Piven article to Mark Levin and Glen Beck. I hope they look into this carefully.
Daggett on May 30, 2009 at 2:35 PM
I get your point and agree. However, Mike, we are being downgraded on bond issues.
Printing money won’t change that one.
And that is precisely how CA started sliding downhill, too.
Plus, the people were happy to elect the first AA president. He’s popular. But polls have consistently shown that they aren’t as happy about the spending.
I think they’ll rebel, and not just teabaggers.
Maybe I’m an optimist. But I think politicians have gotten by for years because as long as your own private life is going OK financially, it’s not that big of a deal.
It did change with this crash. Big time.
I don’t think he’s changed with the times, oddly enough. He’s about to get a reality check.
AnninCA on May 30, 2009 at 2:38 PM
I love the sentiment, but in reality if a million people stopped paying their taxes, a million people would have their wages garnished, their homes confiscated and resold and their bank accounts and pensions raided by the feds.
Unless you’re independently wealthy, don’t own a home and keep your assets in cash it ain’t gonna work.
Mr A on May 30, 2009 at 2:51 PM
“Glenn Beck: Hey, what if a million people stopped paying their taxes in protest?”
How about a million prisoners in the Messiah’s gulag system, probably as slave labor keeping Government Motors afloat, with the union workers as guards?
n0doz on May 30, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Schadenfreude on May 30, 2009 at 5:07 PM
the insufferable concern troll has shown up. Head full of medications and a bleary eye on her keyboard.
Oh and ROFl watching satanlet get DESTROYED. She must be a masochist. I’d be more than happy to beat her.
daesleeper on May 30, 2009 at 11:15 PM
We are already having an impact, tax revenues are down and no one is going to jail.
Essentially the Fed is in the same position that New York State is in relation to Limbaugh. Secretly they want him to stay so they can bleed him, publicly they say “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!”.
Stay within the law and take EVERY deduction possible. Trusts, expense deductions; spend a 1K or 2K to a Tax Attorney about long term hiding of assets. If you are a business owner or make over 250,000 annually (and several on Hot Air do) legally start offshoring you money or convert it into hard assets: Gold, Stamps, whatever you hobby is and whatever you think will grow in inflationary times.
A good book is Unintended Consequences by John Ross. The characters in that book could not believe what was happening to them either. Resistance is possible when you outnumber you enemy 5000 to 1.
GunRunner on May 31, 2009 at 9:52 AM
You get 100,000 people into camps and the 2nd Amendment pretty much comes into play. Government employees are out numbered 5000 to 1, as I stated above. What do you think, we are going to let them herd us into camps? Come on! Every GS-7 and above would be a target and people would be resigning so fast you couldn’t keep up. Study “The Battle of Athens, Georgia”. Study the case in Washington State of the DA who worked for Washington CeaseFire. FBI never arrested anyone.
Remember, We surround them.
GunRunner on May 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM
You’re assuming two things. One, that an effective number of Americans would be willing to rise up if push came to shove. Two, that those who did would be armed and willing to use those arms. Sadly, both assumptions are false.
splink on May 31, 2009 at 4:10 PM
This is what I have been saying for a while. But the problem is most people would not have the stomach to not pay their taxes. But if we could starta tax payers union and all refuse to pay taxes we would just about shut the govt down.
jeffn21 on June 1, 2009 at 9:12 AM
Hey, what if a million people stopped paying their taxes in protest?
Would they have enough high level jobs in the administration for us?
Noelie on October 10, 2009 at 11:48 AM
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