Abbas passed on a West Bank state

posted at 2:15 pm on May 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Jackson Diehl drops a bombshell on the Israeli-Palestinian issue today at the Washington Post.  According to Abbas himself, Ehud Olmert offered a new Palestinian state on 97% of the West Bank as well as an unprecedent agreement to a limited “right of return” for Palestinians who fled Israel more than 60 years ago.  Abbas turned it down as insufficient — and figures he can bargain for more with Barack Obama in office:

It’s true, of course, that if Obama is to broker a Middle East settlement he will have to overcome the recalcitrance of Netanyahu and his Likud party, which has not yet reconciled itself to the idea that Israel will have to give up most of the West Bank and evacuate tens of thousands of settlers. But Palestinians remain a long way from swallowing reality as well. Setting aside Hamas and its insistence that Israel must be liquidated, Abbas — usually described as the most moderate of Palestinian leaders — last year helped doom Netanyahu’s predecessor, Ehud Olmert, by rejecting a generous outline for Palestinian statehood.

In our meeting Wednesday, Abbas acknowledged that Olmert had shown him a map proposing a Palestinian state on 97 percent of the West Bank — though he complained that the Israeli leader refused to give him a copy of the plan. He confirmed that Olmert “accepted the principle” of the “right of return” of Palestinian refugees — something no previous Israeli prime minister had done — and offered to resettle thousands in Israel. In all, Olmert’s peace offer was more generous to the Palestinians than either that of Bush or Bill Clinton; it’s almost impossible to imagine Obama, or any Israeli government, going further.

Abbas turned it down. “The gaps were wide,” he said.

The offer to honor a right of return would probably have driven Olmert from office, once it became public.  Israelis used to defending themselves against Palestinian bombers in pizzarias and shopping centers would certainly object to bringing thousands of them into Israel itself.  Had Abbas accepted the offer and recognized Israel, the new state status of the West Bank would have made his enemies hopping mad, but could have greatly enhanced his stature among ordinary Palestinians.

But Abbas chose to follow the example of his mentor, Yasser Arafat, who refused to take ‘yes’ for an answer at Wye River.  Given about the same percentage of both the West Bank and Gaza Strip for an independent Palestinian state, Arafat chose intifada instead.  Despite the offers from Israel, Palestinians keep dismissing them as insufficient.

That makes it pretty clear that the Palestinians aren’t interested in a two-state solution, nor a rational agreement on the return of refugees.  They want the destruction of the state of Israel.  What’s more, Abbas — supposedly a moderate — thinks he can get that by outwaiting Benjamin Netanyahu and that Obama will help him squeeze Bibi out of power.  And he may not be wrong, either.


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Of course it was insufficient – there was still a country called Israel in existence, silly.

Vashta.Nerada on May 29, 2009 at 2:18 PM

That makes it pretty clear that the Palestinians aren’t interested in a two-state solution, nor a rational agreement on the return of refugees. They want the destruction of the state of Israel.

Yup. This should always have been obvious to anyone who is paying attention. I don’t know why our politicians even go through the motions.

Daggett on May 29, 2009 at 2:18 PM

They just want all of the land between the river and the med. Oh and all of those evil jews dead or deported.

Is that so unreasonable???

sonofdy on May 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM

I think Ehud Barak offered pretty much the same thing to Arafat during the Clinton administration, and Arafat turned it down. And started the intifada.

Wethal on May 29, 2009 at 2:21 PM

What’s more, Abbas — supposedly a moderate — thinks he can get that by outwaiting Benjamin Netanyahu and that Obama will help him squeeze Bibi out of power. And he may not be wrong, either.

I have this recurring dream that Netanyahu takes out Iran, and Barry tries to declare war on Israel.

Vashta.Nerada on May 29, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Obama is an enemy of Israel. Bibi understands that and will act accordingly.

elduende on May 29, 2009 at 2:22 PM

What’s more, Abbas — supposedly a moderate — thinks he can get that by outwaiting Benjamin Netanyahu and that Obama will help him squeeze Bibi out of power. And he may not be wrong, either.

In fact he’s right. Bebe knows this now. To Obama, Israel is expendable. Well, hell, so is the US for that matter.

AUINSC on May 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM

That makes it pretty clear that the Palestinians aren’t interested in a two-state solution, nor a rational agreement on the return of refugees. They want the destruction of the state of Israel.

Yes … and a steady flow of cash from stupid western countries to help them destroy Israel.

darwin on May 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM

The Obama Administration is blackmailing Israel, in particular Natenyahu, by withholding Apache Longbow choppers, because of the Administration’s view that helicopters cause civilian Palestinian casualties.

Abbas had a golden opportunity to turn the West Bank into a viable Palestinian nation, but tossed aside the possibility, demanding more.

More what?

More chaos? More Palestinian children and women being used as human shields by armed thugs who now want even more before they will accept nationhood? More Palestinian children being raised from birth to be suicide martyrs?

When are the big lies going to be stripped away?

The fact of the matter is that Abbas and all the rest of the Palestinians it appears don’t want a viable nation…they simply want to destroy Israel, hating Jews more than they love their own children.

That says it all.

The Obama Administration has chosen sides in this one, this time the US as a matter of national policy is looking to Abbas and the Palestinians as the wonderful good guys, and the evil joooos and Israel as the reason for all the hatred in the Middle East.

It is time to stop placating leaders such as Abbas, and stop prolonging the killing by our trying to rationalize Palestinian hatred, fostered by Iran, the Saudis, and enabled by all the Arab League despots who see a pacified viable and potentially vibrant Palestine as a threat to their dictatorships.

Next, Obama will cut Egypt off at the knees…allowing the Moslem Brotherhood to make massive inroads across Egypt and spreading the violence even further.

Sometimes you just have to put down the rabid dog…no amount of hugs and doggie treats will make a rabid dog a loving pet.

If we won’t, at least give Israel the chance to preserve their own nation and put down the rabid dog along the way.

coldwarrior on May 29, 2009 at 2:31 PM

only mainline democraps like Obama and Clinton believe that it’s Israel’s fault that the poor pfakistinians don’t have a state yet or that Israel is the obstacle to peace not the pfakistinians.

eaglewingz08 on May 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM

it’s almost impossible to imagine Obama, or any Israeli government, going further.

Yeah, it’s pretty hard to offer to kill yourself as part of a peace treaty. Kinda negates the purpose of the treaty, eh?

But, I think including Obama in your snippet above is pre-mature.

BobMbx on May 29, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Good thing our State Dept sent the PA all those shiny new weapons, huh?

/sarc

CP on May 29, 2009 at 2:42 PM

Give up on the whole thing, it`ll never be settled. It`s best we concern ourselves with more important problems like Russia, NK and China as well as Pakistan and Iran.

The Palestinians are sideshow freaks that bite.

ThePrez on May 29, 2009 at 2:45 PM

The gaps are so damn wide between Israel’s maximum and “Palestinians’” minimum… I really don’t know what can be done. A “Palestinian” state is still at least 5 years away, and that’s being extremely optimistic. As for Obama putting extra pressure on Bibi on this minuscule issue of settlement freeze, I can’t believe he’s serious. And I can’t believe he’ll go much farther than his predecessors in pressuring Israel.

Obama has shown himself to be pretty pragmatic — so surely he understands there really is nothing to do right now until the “Palestinians” fix their shizness.

AlexB on May 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM

I wonder if Abbas’ refusal of the deal made a light bulb go on above Olmert’s head with the realization that neither the PA nor Hamas have any real interest in having their own state, if Israel is permitted to exist alongside it.

Olmert was a Carteresque disaster for Israel. I’ll bet he learned no lesson at all from the experience.

Cicero43 on May 29, 2009 at 2:50 PM

The problem with the treaty is that a “Joooooo” has to sign it, so it will never be accepted as a valid agreement.

Obama has shown himself to be pretty pragmatic — so surely he understands there really is nothing to do right now until the “Palestinians” fix their shizness.

AlexB on May 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM

What the …? Pragmatic? Obama? In the same sentence?
Obama is afraid of Iran, he can’t push around Iran, and he can’t push around N.Korea…if he did it would show that President Bush was correct all along.
Obama is so “pragmatic” that he will sell our Israel and the U.S. to get national health care…It’s friday and you weirdos are already posting…

right2bright on May 29, 2009 at 2:53 PM

coldwarrior on May 29, 2009 at 2:31 PM

I don’t know about you…but the speed with which the relationship has gone south can’t be placed solely on the reemergence of the State Dept. Arabists and the rightwing government in Tel Aviv/Jerusalem. These swings in the US Israeli relationship are small and normal…but this is something altogether different its alarming to see this new element rearing up and taking hold of American policy. My danger sense is in overdrive…Coldwarrior what do you think?

elduende on May 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM

I have suspect that Benjamin Netanyahu has already taken stock of the situation and has dismissed the Obama Administration as weak and hostile opponent. We will not count very much in any further decision making on his part. He understands that a vast majority of Americans support Israel and understand the threat to the civilized world posed by Iran. He also knows that the only country that really supports an independent Palestinian state is an Obama run United States. No nation in the region wants one; including Syria and Iran, and the Europeans care only to the extent that it allows them to posture in the Arab world.

I strongly suspect that Israel is already making overtures to Saudi Arabia through Jordon and Egypt for permission to overfly Saudi territory on the way to Iran. The Sunni Arabs, led by Egypt and Saudi Arabia fear Iranian nuclear enforced hegemony then they do the Jewish state. Given a choice between setting up a Palestinian state that they don’t want and covert support for an Israeli attack on Iran they will screw the Palestinians any day of the week.

jerryofva on May 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM

If you think this agreement would have driven Olmert out of office, it would have driven Abbas to the gallows. He, Arafat, and Hamas have helped push the Palestinians to a point where any agreement would be met with violence, far from what seemed to exist a decade ago, before Arafat decided he didn’t want to risk actually having a state.

A limited right-to-return likely limits the right to Palestinians who can prove that they themselves lived in what is now Israel (thousands, easily dwarfed by the current population of Arab Israelis) rather than those who claim ancestors there (millions, who would soon dwarf the number of Jewish Israelis). That would likely be a workable compromise.

calbear on May 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Iran being more eager than anything, to send a nuke, or two to Israel. With Obamas blessing.

capejasmine on May 29, 2009 at 2:58 PM

See how easy it is to deal with a moderate muslim?

jukin on May 29, 2009 at 3:07 PM

@Darkcurrent:

Your assertion, while not denied by the facts, is not clear. None of us can speak for what the palestinian leadership will do a year from now. to say, outright, that they will accept nothing but the absolute destruction of Israel is not an assertion id be willing to make. it reeks of an arrogant assumption that you, in fact, know what these people are thinking or planning.

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:07 PM

Ed, My sources told me that the right of return thing wasn’t exactly true. He offered to take in a few thousand of the refugees, the rest would have to be settled in the new Palestinian state

The_Lid on May 29, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Whichever Israelis made this offer to Abbas ought to be jailed. For life.

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 3:08 PM

I think Israel is doing what it has always done, which is look out for itself (as it should). By and large in the past, the US would bear the brunt of the dirty work in maintaining security in the region. When the US was slow or reluctant to act, the Israelis’ did not hesitate to do what they believe necessary to protect themselves.

In the current circumstances, Obama had better get used to the idea of hearing about what Israel intends to do by listening to Christianne Ammanpour report from the newest smoking hole created by the IAF.

BobMbx on May 29, 2009 at 3:10 PM

The only humane thing to do is tell Abbas that if so much as a dirt clod is thrown across the border you’ll lose 1/4 mile of territory and such will happen for every act of violence until the violence stops or Palestine exists no more.

Speakup on May 29, 2009 at 3:10 PM

I strongly suspect that Israel is already making overtures to Saudi Arabia through Jordon and Egypt for permission to overfly Saudi territory on the way to Iran. The Sunni Arabs, led by Egypt and Saudi Arabia fear Iranian nuclear enforced hegemony then they do the Jewish state. Given a choice between setting up a Palestinian state that they don’t want and covert support for an Israeli attack on Iran they will screw the Palestinians any day of the week.

jerryofva on May 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM

The Saudi’s know exactly where Iran intends to show the world their nuclear toys. Riyhad comes to mind.

BobMbx on May 29, 2009 at 3:15 PM

@Darkcurrent:

Your assertion, while not denied by the facts, is not clear. None of us can speak for what the palestinian leadership will do a year from now. to say, outright, that they will accept nothing but the absolute destruction of Israel is not an assertion id be willing to make. it reeks of an arrogant assumption that you, in fact, know what these people are thinking or planning.

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:07 PM

(Apologies we jumped threads)

Indeed, it’s not denied by the facts. I don’t know what they are thinking or planning. I know what they are saying, have said, have done and are doing. All of which support my arrogant assumption that Palestinians will not accept peace while Israel exists in any form.

DarkCurrent on May 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM

…Obama had better get used to the idea of hearing about what Israel intends to do by listening to Christianne Ammanpour report from the newest smoking hole created by the IAF.

BobMbx on May 29, 2009 at 3:10 PM

LOL!

elduende on May 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM

DarkCurrent on May 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM

im sure similar things were said about Egypt as well.

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM

“Until then, in the West Bank we have a good reality . . . the people are living a normal life.” — Abbas

Now that’s burying the headline for multiple reasons. #1 is that the main handwringing that goes on around the world is about the oppressed and wretched Palestinian people, a characterization their own leader denies. Second is that this isn’t 100% true; a recent report from the West Bank detailed how life in Ramallah is great, but the rest of the West Bank doesn’t quite live up to the quality of life in the de facto PA capital. Reading that, a Palestinian in some more unfortunate locale might opt to abandon Fatah for whatever other option there might be. Unfortunately, by far the most popular alternative is Hamas.

calbear on May 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM

I strongly suspect that Israel is already making overtures to Saudi Arabia through Jordon and Egypt for permission to overfly Saudi territory on the way to Iran. The Sunni Arabs, led by Egypt and Saudi Arabia fear Iranian nuclear enforced hegemony then they do the Jewish state. Given a choice between setting up a Palestinian state that they don’t want and covert support for an Israeli attack on Iran they will screw the Palestinians any day of the week.

jerryofva on May 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM

As I told many, I will not be terribly surprise if any such Israeli attack don’t have Saudi AF fighter cover. I’m sure that their main condition to the Israelis is to make sure that no rock in Iran is left unturned.

El Coqui on May 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM

The Palestinians do not want a state. If they had one, they would have to govern it and be accountable to their people. What fun is that when you have martyrdom.

The_Vig on May 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM

im sure similar things were said about Egypt as well.

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Since signing Camp David, Egypt has been more of a problem to Israel than Syria. Nothing comes across the Syrian border into Israel but arms pour across the Egyptian border.

Camp David was a total waste and Egypt will attack Israel again (aside from its help in suppolying the weapons used by Hamas and the PA to attack Israel over the past years) as soon as it looks advantageous to the Egyptians.

I get a kick out of people who think that Israel got anything good out of Camp David and the “peace” with Egypt. Remind me, please, where the Karin-A was caught, what was on it, and what it was for. Please.

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM

United States President Barack Hussein Obama… the best friend a blood thirsty murdering terrorist and/or genocidal maniac leader could ever have in todays world.

If I were them, I think I’d take my chances with President Barack Hussein Obama and our most ethical Congress evah too. After all, what’s the worst that can happen? It’s not like President Barack Hussein Obama is going to lay the smack down on the Palestinians in any way, shape or form. Heck. President Barack Hussein Obama and our most ethical Congress evah is giving the Palestinians BILLIONS of American tax-payer dollars to with as they please. While the Palestinians regroup, re-arm, and rebuild their entrenchments and make new ones, President Barack Hussein Obama and our most ethical Congress evah will be busy tirelessly wearing down the Israeli’s.

Good play Abbas, good play.

SilverStar830 on May 29, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Sadly, the sooner the shooting starts the better for both Israel and this country. nObama and the moral relativists are nothing but beta dogs that have cheated, lied, leveraged class warfare, exploited race pimping and a corrupted media to seize power, they offer enlightened subjugation and appeasement as the only paths to peace and prosperity. Their self serving egos refuse to accept that we are imperfect and cannot force evolution of the species into some utopian one world. This insanity risks all that we have achieved and everything we represent . Reagan had it right, Peace through Strength!

dmann on May 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Yeah… Netanyahu offered settlement with Right of Return???? Pull the other one Ed.

Why would Abbas agree to anything? He is barely legitimate himself in the West Bank and the Israelis aren’t offerring anything new or groundbreaking. Also, Abbas isn’t about to make permanent the split between Gaza and the West Bank. To suggest that there is a better deal on the table than offered previously is false and the Palestinians have endured long enough to know not to jump at the first scrap offered before formal negotiations begin.

Obama is not telling the Israelis anything different to what G H Bush did.

lexhamfox on May 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Egypt will attack Israel?? Really?

Why bother commenting on current affairs if you’re so clairvoyant? Shouldn’t you be out saving the world?

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM

im sure similar things were said about Egypt as well.

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM

If you think Egypt and the Palestinians somehow equate, I’d guess you’ve never been to either Egypt or PA controlled territories. You’ve probably never talked 1-1 with Palestinians on the West Bank about the situation. Am I right? Get a passport, discover the real world.

DarkCurrent on May 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM

I’m still waiting for that explanation of the Karin-A. You do know what it was, right? Do you know what it was for? What do you call that?

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM

And please explain why the Syrian border has been more peaceful than the Egyptian, and what that means. You skipped over this little tidbit, too.

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Maybe they are just tired of the neighbors playing thier records too loud………

Seven Percent Solution on May 29, 2009 at 3:47 PM

What’s more, Abbas — supposedly a moderate ….

What kind of sad, sad world do we live in when a Holocaust denier and helper of the Munich Massacre terrorists is considered a moderate?

Egypt will attack Israel?? Really?

Ummm…. They’ve done it before. What makes you think that every frigging nation in the Muslim world WOULDN’T attack Israel in a second if they thought the Israelis wouldn’t nuke the shite out of them?

mjk on May 29, 2009 at 3:47 PM

I am quite sure that if an Israeli Prime Minister offered to have Israelis march four abreast into the Mediterranean the Palestinian leader of the moment would call the offer riduculous, outrageous and refuse to settle for anything less than eight abreast.

Blaise on May 29, 2009 at 3:50 PM

ernesto speaks for all Americans who know nothing of the history or philosophy of the actors and ideologies involved.

BL@KBIRD on May 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Seven Percent Solution on May 29, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Thanks for that.

DarkCurrent on May 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I don’t know about you…but the speed with which the relationship has gone south can’t be placed solely on the reemergence of the State Dept. Arabists and the rightwing government in Tel Aviv/Jerusalem. These swings in the US Israeli relationship are small and normal…but this is something altogether different its alarming to see this new element rearing up and taking hold of American policy. My danger sense is in overdrive…

elduende on May 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM

If your danger sense wasn’t picking anything up, I’d hit you with a cluebat.

As for why the relationship between Israel is falling apart… well last time we didn’t have a neighboring power toying with world destruction now did we?

Fact is, Obama doesn’t care, or worse. And if it’s a choice between honoring Obama’s wishes and the survival of Israel, it doesn’t take a nuclear physicist to see which choice Israel will take.

Chaz706 on May 29, 2009 at 4:35 PM

@Darkcurrent:

Your assertion, while not denied by the facts, is not clear. None of us can speak for what the palestinian leadership will do a year from now. to say, outright, that they will accept nothing but the absolute destruction of Israel is not an assertion id be willing to make. it reeks of an arrogant assumption that you, in fact, know what these people are thinking or planning.

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:07 PM

The problem is, is that it’s true.
Where you drag your idiocies from, I have no idea.

TexasJew on May 29, 2009 at 4:36 PM

America will not support Obama if he goes against Israel. I hope he does it sooner, rather than later.

littleguy on May 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I still remember what the PLO charter said. I still remember what Hezbollah, Hamas, et al said.

I wouldn’t even try making a deal with them.

And if that leads to a fight to the death so be it. It’s not like that’s already happening is it?

Oh wait…

Chaz706 on May 29, 2009 at 4:39 PM

America will not support Obama if he goes against Israel. I hope he does it sooner, rather than later.

littleguy on May 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM

He’s going to force Israel to handle Iran and THEN he’ll come down on Isreal like a ton of bricks, teaming up with the Euros in an attempt to destroy the state. But The Precedent, and the Euros, want Israel to take care of Iran, first. Then they get to kill two birds with no stones.

The Precedent will try to impose a blockade on Israel, which is when we’ll see what the real story is with this country.

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 4:43 PM

These swings in the US Israeli relationship are small and normal…but this is something altogether different its alarming to see this new element rearing up and taking hold of American policy.

America is not a player in biblical end time events. I’ve been wondering how the end game is played that would prevent the most powerful nation in history from being a player. Is this what we are now seeing? The fall of America? I don’t know, but I think it’s worth considering.

jimmy2shoes on May 29, 2009 at 4:57 PM

jimmy2shoes on May 29, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Maybe it’s worth considering that you might be reading too much into a particular bronze-age mythology. Perhaps?

DarkCurrent on May 29, 2009 at 5:06 PM

But Abbas chose to follow the example of his mentor, Yasser Arafat, who refused to take ‘yes’ for an answer at Wye River. Given about the same percentage of both the West Bank and Gaza Strip for an independent Palestinian state, Arafat chose intifada instead. Despite the offers from Israel, Palestinians keep dismissing them as insufficient.

Israel has repeatedly sacrificed to provide for the Palestinians, to no avail.

Even Gaddafi said it would be foolish for Israel to attempt to cede land for a Palestinian state.

No one faces the point that no Arab state is willing to cede territory for a Palestinian state.

It isn’t Israel’s job to do anything other than protect those who live in Israel.

maverick muse on May 29, 2009 at 5:28 PM

By “no one” I’m referencing world leaders.

maverick muse on May 29, 2009 at 5:30 PM

What the “experts” on Marxism think….this is the beast that has taken control of the American foreign policy that affects Israel…
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/

elduende on May 29, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Thank God Abbas turned down the offer.

Israel should not increase its own population of people who want to destroy it.

Frankly, if they weren’t Jews, I would have to conclude that Olmert and his followers believe in Santa Claus.

alice on May 29, 2009 at 9:24 PM

elduende on May 29, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Damn! That’s like having Helen Thomas laugh at how old, ugly, and stupid we are.

progressoverpeace on May 29, 2009 at 10:40 PM

ernesto on May 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Ernesto, if I lived close to you I would offer to loan you a pin so that you could burst your bubble.

OldEnglish on May 29, 2009 at 10:45 PM

To quote a very smart Conservitive:
“The reason this war had been dragging on for so long is that neither side has been allowed to WINa victory. There has never been a conflict in recorded history that has had a lasting peace reached through Negotiation. Only when one side or the other wind a decisive victory and the looser askes for peace does it last”
People read your Bible, “No country will ever beat Isreal In Battle as God will not allow it!” The end is closer than ever. Isreal will win in the end!!!

jtpcamp on May 30, 2009 at 12:12 AM

Maybe it’s worth considering that you might be reading too much into a particular bronze-age mythology.
DarkCurrent on May 29, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Mythology….are you kidding me?

BlameAmericaLast on May 30, 2009 at 7:26 PM

That’s the bombshell? Not one Palestinian leader missed the opportunity to pass on having their own state.

How about the bombshell elsewhere in the article?

I will wait for Israel to freeze settlements,” adding “until then, in the West Bank we have a good reality . . . the people are living a normal life.”

Diel cut the quote, apparently we don’t want to know how much the Palestinians are enjoying themselves right now.

Phoenician on June 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM