Tancredo: Sotomayor’s a member of the “Latino KKK”
posted at 10:09 pm on May 28, 2009 by Allahpundit
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The “Latino KKK” in this case meaning the National Council of La Raza, about which the boss has written eloquently and at great length. Three things here. First, I’ve fed Olby enough crap sandwiches over the years for comparing conservative pundits and Fox News to jihadis not to let Tanc get away with the equivalent. Unless they’re making bombs, it’s always poor form to compare your opponents to terrorists. Second, he’s simply wrong on the facts. As HuffPo notes, it’s not La Raza whose motto is “All for the race. Nothing for the rest,” it’s MEChA (“For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”). There are links between the two groups — this 2006 Human Events piece by Charlie Norwood is essential — but La Raza’s considerably more mainstream than MEChA, which calls for the reclamation of the American southwest by Latinos. Third, I realize that any concession to electoral reality is disdained by “true conservatives” as the hallmark of a squishy RINO, but with Republicans nervous about alienating Hispanic voters by confronting Sotomayor, how wise is it for the most vociferous amnesty opponent in America to be doing the rounds on cable news throwing verbal grenades like this? You worked hard in Congress for a long time, Tanc. Take a break. Especially now that the GOP’s got a tiny bit of traction in making Democrats squirm over her “wise Latina” comment.
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Hussein.
Facts don’t work with liberals and kool-aid drinkers.
BTW, WTF, Hussein is his MIDDLE NAME isn’t it. I’m going to file a class action lawsuit against anyone calling me by my middle name. And I’m sure that O’Reilly will report on it. Yeah, what a squidlid.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Rush says that of her rulings that have gone to the SCOTUS, they’ve been overturned 80%.
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 12:20 AM
It’s called integrity. Those who don’t have it often hate those that do. You should try some.
However, as with a couple of the posters, I would point out that La Raza is as much a terrorism-promoting organization as, say, CAIR. They preach violence, while not themselves committing it. It’s a fair comparison, and Olby’s comparison of right-wing groups that do not preach violence isn’t equal.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 12:20 AM
I’ll go with that.
katy on May 29, 2009 at 12:21 AM
National Council of La Raza (The Race) is main stream? So cross burning KKK members would be main stream as long as they didn’t kill anyone?
The math is pretty complex on this one, if a group espouses hatred of another group it’s main stream as long it isn’t the white group doing the hate? How does someone renconcile that?
Rode Werk on May 29, 2009 at 12:21 AM
IDK what Dogsoldier meant by it, nor will I assume, but I’ll say this in regards to the Hussein thing:
When I hear people in public say it, or when I read it online, I feel nothing but nasty vibes from it.
People keep insinuating he is a closet Muslim. It makes sense that they would use his middle name in a bit of fear mongering, to be quite honest.
Not everyone who uses the Hussein part is doing this, but I feel a solid percentage is.
There are many things to fear about Obama, but being “Hussein the Muslim” is not one. Many people reflexively think “Hussein = Muslim.”
I think some people are trying to make that connection by using his Hussein
blatantblue on May 29, 2009 at 12:21 AM
oh well night night
blatantblue on May 29, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Explain.
2Brave2Bscared on May 29, 2009 at 12:23 AM
I never said to show deference to La Raza or fail to point out its racist nature. I just said phrases like “Latino KKK” will not help to enlighten the public, as such rhetoric will distract and muddy the message.
For example, a better way to draw attention to Soto’s La Raza affiliation would be for one of our more forceful conservatives in the Senate (Sessions?) to ask Sotomayor during her confirmation hearing about her affiliation with this group.
“Judge Sotomayor, your ABA profile states that you are a member of La Raza, or ‘The Race.” La Raza is on record as a pro-Latino organization that favors re-conquering the American Southwest for Mexico. It also strives to establish Hispanic supremacy. As an active member of this organization, do you agree with its stated goals?”
Much, much more effective and devastating than Tanc lobbing the “Latino KKK” grenade.
aero on May 29, 2009 at 12:23 AM
That was a long time ago though. And we, as a nation, have come a long way since them. No wait, never mind.
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 12:24 AM
I smell a doozy of a confirmation hearing with shaky liberals acting embarassingly defensive and as if they have a plane to catch.
THE CHOSEN ONE on May 29, 2009 at 12:24 AM
I meant to use reconcile, but the monkey doing my spell check missed the word =/
Rode Werk on May 29, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Because pandering works so well. Really what else do you call an organization whose English translation is The Race? It is not any different than the KKK. To ignore that because you want to be nice so people will like you is suicidal and stupid. At some point you need to grow a pair.
jdkchem on May 29, 2009 at 12:30 AM
That’s exactly the point. It’s his middle name – his family’s Islamic heritage was a fact right out there for everyone to see, and it should have damaged him based on who our deadliest enemies in the world are right now. But calling him by his middle name to remind people of his Islamic heritage and possible sympathies was not an effective ploy. It just made the opposition roll its eyes and encouraged many moderates to run to the left, away from the wild-eye crazies (as they saw it) who were fixated on the man’s freaking middle name.
Similarly, La Raza is right out there with its message of racism and Latino supremacy, for anyone with even a smidgeon of curiosity to see. But picking up this “Latino KKK” thing, turning it into a meme, and lobbing it repeatedly into the public debate will be, in my opinion, as ineffective as pointing out our President’s middle name was. Which is to say, not at all.
aero on May 29, 2009 at 12:31 AM
I have, but those who say “Live to fight another day” never seem to get around to that day. If it’s not one excuse it’s another.
But dear I have a headache. But dear, we need to get up early tomorrow. But dear, let’s just talk.
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Why not include everything she’s guilty of? Why stop short of the whole truth?
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Yep, La Raza hates me and the KKK hates me.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 12:32 AM
So pointing out they’re racist is ok as long as you do not lump them in with other racist groups.
Thanks for clearing that up because I would hate to think that anyone would educate people about a racist group by saying they’re pretty much the same as another racist group.
jdkchem on May 29, 2009 at 12:33 AM
If you hold a person to a standard, you hold all people to that standard. Getting outraged when one person engages in hyperbole, and not when another person does, simply because you agree with them politically, is hypocritical. Liberals do it all the time, particularly the media with their selective amnesia in reporting.
Put simply, if you need it explained to you, you’re hopeless.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 12:33 AM
+1,000,000
Thank you. I’m glad I’m not the only one who can’t stand his liberal garbage.
2Brave2Bscared on May 29, 2009 at 12:33 AM
I repeat: I NEVER said to pander to La Raza or the Left. I am pleased when they don’t like me, actually. I said to fight, but fight smart. Lobbing rhetorical grenades is not fighting smart, it’s giving the enemy something to throw back at us. Look at my comment at 12:23 above for my take on a much more devastating way to confront Sotomayor about her La Raza affiliation.
aero on May 29, 2009 at 12:34 AM
I would agree so far as to say that it might be better to compare La Raza (The Race) to Aryan Nation.
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 12:35 AM
No. La Raza, to the average joe blow voter, is just now learning about La Raza. And the more it gets drilled into the brains of joe blow voter, the more anger joe blow voter is going to feel about a racists group they knew nothing about until the right began to hammer it home.
katy on May 29, 2009 at 12:35 AM
No, I understand that. And, quite frankly, obama possible being a ‘closet’ muslim is the least of our worries with ‘that one’.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 12:35 AM
By the way, if people want to cite the use of “W” to explain their focus on Obama’s middle name, why aren’t you calling him “H”? I don’t remember a single occasion in the last eight years where he was referred to as “Walker”.
I’m with Allah on this one. People are calling him “Hussein” as a backhanded attempt to compare him to Saddam, and they all know it.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Actually I think I said that already.
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 12:39 AM
I’m calling horsesh*t on this Hussein deal.
It IS HIS MIDDLE NAME! Live with it.
Calling him Hussein hardly equates to the liberal snotrag blogs cheering Tony Snow’s death.
If he has a problem with being called Hussein, or anyone else for that matter, take it up with his father. He named him that. I guess you’ll have to wait awhile, though.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 12:39 AM
That’s not what I asked you. I asked why Malkin was showing so much “integrity” by hiring a liberal to run her conservative blog?
And nothing Tancredo said was hyperbolic. He may have gotten La Raza’s slogan mixed up with another, similar group to which they nonetheless have connections, but his overall point was still right on the mark.
If you think what Tancredo said in regards to La Raza was in any way comparable to Olbermann equating Fox News with Al Qaeda then it is you who is hopeless, not me.
2Brave2Bscared on May 29, 2009 at 12:39 AM
Some people, I agree. Not most, though. I think a good deal are smart enough to have seen through the chain emails and realized it’s much easier to compare him to our most recently executed brutal dictator.
Nearly all of these people hate it when Cheney or Bush is compared to Hitler, by the way.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 12:40 AM
It was not effective because most people were smart enough to know that Hussein is just a name and does not imply anymore than someone whose name is Adolph. Making the blind leap and declaring that comparing The Race to the KKK is in the same vein as using Hussein is nothing more than avoiding the truth because you don’t want to get anyone’s feelings hurt.
jdkchem on May 29, 2009 at 12:41 AM
We should stress the idea that La Raza is like the KKK:
Breathless media lickspittle: OMG the republicans are calling La Raza the same as the KKK!!!
Joe Sixpack: Well, I know about the KKK, let me find out more about La Raza… Holy Crap, it IS like the KKK!!!
It’s a win-win for us.
Rebar on May 29, 2009 at 12:43 AM
I wrote specifically in my post that I disagreed with Allah on the scale of the comparison. Reading is fundamental. However, I agree with him on the general principle of avoiding the modified version of Godwin’s Law. Considering that Tanc is probably the most passionate border security advocate, it’s not surprising. Either way, he’s not helping his cause.
And Allah isn’t a liberal. If you think that he is, you’re either new to the blog, or you are a literal extremist to dismiss someone’s political affiliation over their reaction to someone’s television interview.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 12:43 AM
But, Madison, this is the problem. When my liberal friends started spouting off about how I was not being fair and that I was judging obama, I told them simply that I would give their president as much respect as they gave mine. It usually shut them up. And this is the crux. It seems that other people can compare our guys to Hitler and Nazis and we have to sit back and take it. Not that I want to stoop to their level, but dammit, I’m tired of having to play by some stupid ‘rules’ and I’m tired of being told to shut up and take it. I’m angry and I’m not going to take it anymore. I’m not going to be silent and allow my country to be taken over by some braindead, half baked, coked out, jackass.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Sadly, Joe Sixpack doesn’t have the initiative to go past a Wikipedia search, if he even gets the motivation to go that far.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Believe me, I don’t worry about hurting people’s feelings. I worry about winning elections so that we can turn this mess around (if it’s not too late already) We’re not gonna win any elections any time soon with all this fractured in-fighting, directionless frustration and anger, and ineffective messaging.
Remember, we’re not trying to persuade people like us. We’re trying to persuade politically uneducated moderate squishes who are easily distracted and easily fooled by the media and the left. We have to be savvy about what persuades them. Smooth rhetoric and a tightly crafted message did it for Obama. Take a clue from that.
aero on May 29, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Wow, Madison, watch out. You’re elitism is showing.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Oh good grief…I am far from pleased with Sotomayor. And by far from, I mean not in the slightest. However, Tom Tancredo who has already been branded as a “racist” by the Left, which branding the “Press” always snidely implies is true, popping up all over with this stuff cannot do anything but HURT the Republican part. Fairly or unfairly, it’s reality.
Also, I don’t quite understand how “true conservatives” can constantly attempt to bash Allah with the Atheist thing. Because, to me, a true Conservative is one who believes in Freedom of religion, which includes the freedom to not embrace one at all as well as a free marketplace of ideas.
Lori_Z on May 29, 2009 at 12:48 AM
I disagree. I think most people don’t have an opinion either way and will scratch their heads, wondering, “is it? I don’t know.”
Which is why this should be looked upon as an opportunity to teach them, and it will only help us down the road.
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 12:49 AM
My apologies. I must have missed the second paragraph of your initial post to me.
I’ve been following Hot Air on and off for some two years now. I’m well familiar with Allahpundit and his liberal political worldview.
2Brave2Bscared on May 29, 2009 at 12:49 AM
Yup, we should wait for Juan McCain or Lindsey Graham to take charge. That will do the trick.
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 12:49 AM
And we should stop speaking Spanish. It’s called The Race.
Ronnie on May 29, 2009 at 12:50 AM
So far fighting “smart” has gotten nothing. In fact calling it fighting is wholly inaccurate. There is nothing wrong with calling La Raza what it is and if that means calling them the Latino KKK then by all means do so. You want to play nice, they don’t, you will lose. Until you figure that out you will have no chance. How many times have the libtards tossed the racist grenade? It works nearly every time. And you want to play footsie.
jdkchem on May 29, 2009 at 12:50 AM
I feel exactly the same as you. Seriously, I feel pissed off and frustrated and angry and helpless. However, you’re a sharp cookie, HS. You know as well as I do that the Hussein comments don’t help anything, because all it does is make the average person think we’re calling him Muslim or comparing him to Saddam. Think about how many conservative pundits there are, and then consider that the people who are most known for bringing up his name are Ann Coulter and Michael Savage. Their tactics are red meat for us, and useless to the electorate.
You won’t want to hear this, but this is what you need to focus on: Look at him go. Look at Gibbs try and cover for him to the point that he’s becoming fodder for even the Daily Show. Look at Joe Biden creating more one-liners in four months than Quayle did in four years. Look at Obama avoid issues like gay marriage and abortion, and setting himself up for a major loss on those fronts. Look at Nancy crash and burn on waterboarding.
They are failing, miserably.
We have two ways to come out of this: Higher ground, or as hated as him. We really do have an opportunity to ride this chump’s coattails to Contract With America II. If we’re going to do that, we cannot sacrifice our reputation for class that Reagan cemented for us.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Then maybe the stupid Republican party needs to be hurt? Or would you rather mince words and pander instead?
2Brave2Bscared on May 29, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Why do these extreme LaRaza types who want total control want to turn the USA into a third world nation just like most of Latin and South America? Mexico City can’t even give welfare or job creations to its own people let alone doing that with another fifty states. Mexico which is similar in size as Japan and population can’t even get to a first world status and wants to bring neighboring nations down to its level. Once the USA is brought down they will go northward and third world the nation of Canada. Poverty is a creeping disease.
garydt on May 29, 2009 at 12:53 AM
Good point. When you buy something at the store one side of it is still in English anyway.
Sotomayor is a member of The Race.
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 12:53 AM
Ha.
2Brave2Bscared on May 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM
This has nothing in common with Hussein comments. There’s no innuendo. THE RACE is RACIST.
Ronnie on May 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM
It’s not elitism. I’ve been shocked how many people that I talked with during the election that based their opinion solely on either what they saw on television, or what they heard through word of mouth. Suggestions to check news sites or even Wikipedia were usually shrugged off with “I don’t care”. It really is epidemic. Before you ask, no, it’s not just people in Madison. This includes people in conservative areas of Wisconsin.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 12:55 AM
And yet his popularity rating is still 65%, despite all of that. It doesn’t really matter what we do, the masses want their freebies and we are still going to be called racists, no matter what we do.
I understand your thinking, but I am tired of being told the just shut up and sit down. If this is the fodder that O’Reilly wants to ‘bloviate’ about, well, I guess Glenn Beck will be taking over that top spot very soon. We have more important things to worry about, but as far as the masses are concerned, all is well. It is a lose lose situation unless these masses wake up and realize those heavy weights around their arms and legs are chains and obama is holding the key.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 12:56 AM
Wow. Comparing La Raza to the KKK or leaving the border wide open are our only options? That sucks.
You need to try harder.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 12:57 AM
You don’t have to shut up and take it, but screaming incoherently and shaking your fists at the skies while foam flies out of the corners of your mouth isn’t likely to persuade those who need to be persuaded.
For example, I am absolutely petrified and frantic about Obama’s insane spending spree and the coming horrifying consequences that are clear as day to us on the right. Rather than shouting at moderates and liberals that Obama’s a coke-head and a fascist (even if he is), I calmly but forcefully point out that Obama’s spending dwarfs Bush’s spending by more than four-fold. I point out that the U.S. government will borrow 46 cents for every dollar it spends in 2009. I point out that the projected deficit for 2009 alone — which doesn’t include universal health care — will constitute $7000 of debt for every man, woman, and child in America, above and beyond our usual level of taxation and debt. I state that $1.8T, the projected deficit for 2009, would take almost 60,000 years, at one dollar per second, to pay off. Almost every time I get the opportunity to list off these facts, calmly and rationally but with conviction, their jaws drop and their eyes widen, and they head for the internet to see if what I’m saying is true. I’ve persuaded many people, all by my little lonesome, to accept the truth about Obama and the Dems with just the facts.
I feel the same screaming frustration inside that you do. But I know it won’t persuade a single soul who doesn’t already see the train wreck coming. Facts might. Rational arguments might. A really popular leader like Reagan might. But panicky, disjointed, inflammatory rhetoric won’t.
aero on May 29, 2009 at 12:57 AM
Pipe down, Madison and I are having a private conversation.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 12:58 AM
This truth cannot be repeated or emphasized enough.
2Brave2Bscared on May 29, 2009 at 12:58 AM
Get a room.
Ronnie on May 29, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Well, the last time I checked, this is still a free country, so why don’t you worry about yourself, okay?
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 12:59 AM
A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week. Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more.
- George Patton
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 12:59 AM
We were saying everything we could about Ayers, Rezko, Wright, etc. during the election, and the masses didn’t care. What good is repeating his middle name going to do?
It may really be beyond our control. If it is, isn’t it best that we let them sink themselves, rather than get pulled down with them? I suggest we get ourselves a yacht, and from a safe distance, toss them lead-filled life preservers.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 1:00 AM
How could they possibly do that? She’s on record making a blatantly racist comment and is a member of at least one racist group. How could it be thrown back at us after it’s already exploded in their faces?
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 1:01 AM
Hardy har har. You need to go and turn on Cinemax and cool off, sparky.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 1:01 AM
The message being “get in their faces”. The smooth rhetoric being a pay-off. The fact is you do not want to fight you want a pleasant discussion. You’re really starting to sound like the arrogant liberal ninnies. Who exactly are you going to persuade? The average Joe will not parse the BS from Senate confirmation hearings but he will understand The Race is nothing more than the Latino KKK. How about instead of copy-catting a Chicago machine thug we just grow a pair and start fighting back?
jdkchem on May 29, 2009 at 1:01 AM
What the hell is your problem with me?
Ronnie on May 29, 2009 at 1:02 AM
You can put lipstick on La Raza but it is still the Latino KKK without the lynching.
Geochelone on May 29, 2009 at 1:03 AM
Agreed, someone needs to tell Graham, McCain, Kyl and the rest of our plan. I can’t wait for McCain to come out and announce he is getting the gangbang of 14 back together again for one more ‘poke’ at the country and his party.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 1:03 AM
Well, he does have a point. This is a public forum. If you want to have a private conversation with someone free from interruptions, maybe you should exchange email addresses or something.
2Brave2Bscared on May 29, 2009 at 1:04 AM
I don’t like peeping toms. I don’t have a problem with you, Ronnie dear. We are on the same team.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 1:04 AM
I have now said NUMEROUS times that I think that Ayran Nation would be a better comparison, although I think that the way Tanc put the KKK comparison was OK.
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 1:04 AM
The reason I’m concerned about the Party being hurt is because I don’t care just about a “win” or a digging my heels in peeing contest. I care long-term…I care about the Country and stopping it’s downward spiral before it’s too late. Thus, the Republican party doesn’t just need to win a battle, they need to win a war…which will be a long one to overcome the past DECADES of a slide towards Socialism. Sorry, I don’t think Tom Tancredo should be the General.
So, no, I don’t think the party needs to be hurt over something that is futile.
Lori_Z on May 29, 2009 at 1:04 AM
La Raza doesn’t have Obama’s popularity, and I don’t think it’s possible they can ever earn it. I don’t see how it can backfire on anybody but La Raza and, (since his popularity has got to end at some point, all things considered), Obama.
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 1:05 AM
Have you met the MSM? Of course it’ll be thrown in our faces. They’ll find a way to make it explode twice. And like a cartoon, they’ll just appear in the next frame, all clean and whole and not exploded at all, while our beaks will be on backwards as the end credits roll.
aero on May 29, 2009 at 1:05 AM
Holy batsh*t, let me send shots all around. Can’t you guys take a joke…..Madison and I were talking about the Hussein thing and Ronnie thought we were comparing it to the La Raza thing, and I told Ronnie that we were having a private conversation. It wasn’t like we were having sex or anything like that, we were just talking about the Hussein thing and getting a little off topic, but I haven’t been on for a while because I am busy trying to start a small business and make it profitable, so I probably missed the Hussein blog, and I hate it when people get off topic and go all over the place. It really makes things confusing….what was the question again?
Oh yeah, dammit, we aren’t doing ANYTHING. I will get back on topic about the La Raza/Brown KKK thing now. Sorry.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 1:07 AM
No, someone needs to tell them to show the modicum of guts Specter had and actually leave the damned party. McCain in particular, since he already thought about it previously.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 1:08 AM
And if we do it your way it will go something like ….
Garafolo; Hey, those Republicans are a bunch of racists.
Yeah, that’s so much better than the way it is now.
Ronnie on May 29, 2009 at 1:08 AM
perhaps my spanish is rusty but the name is La Raza… both capitals… meaning “The Race”… proper nouns?
Kaptain Amerika on May 29, 2009 at 1:09 AM
Because whenever the going might get the least bit rough “we” are apparently suppose to be like Chicken Little, not George Patton.
Chicken Little: Listen to me, everybody! I’m your new leader! I’m gonna save your lives! I’m gonna tell you what to do!
Cocky Locky: Don’t listen to that pipsqueak. The sky isn’t falling.
Chicken Little: I tell ya it is too falling!
Cocky Locky: And I tell you it isn’t.
Chicken Little: Is too!
Cocky Locky: All right, if the sky is falling why doesn’t it hit me in the head?
[Foxy Loxy hits Cocky Locky with a piece of wood]
Hen: Chicken Little is right! What do we do? Oh, Chicken Little, you’ve got to help us!
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 1:10 AM
I hear Specter is still going to lose. But, again, we are off topic. I’m telling you, it is coming. La Raza’s boy McCain just won’t be able to help himself.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 1:10 AM
Close, but not quite. If he had said the White Supremacist or White Nationalist movement, he would have been spot on. Members of the Aryan Nations, to my knowledge, have actually been indicted as co-conspirators in some incidents.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 1:10 AM
So, then, about half of them will assume it’s probably true, and the other half will not. Still, the only harm done is to La Raza, since last week hardly anybody even knew they existed.
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 1:11 AM
I hear Larry Flynt is offering a million bucks for the video of McCain, Graham, and Juan Hernandez having a threesome.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 1:12 AM
I think that would be more of a circlejerk, but I digress.
You are a nasty one, Madison.
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 1:13 AM
This is a teachable moment.
Joe Sixpack doesn’t know about “The Race”, because the MSM doesn’t WANT him to know about it, and for a damn good reason – it’s so loathsome that it’s pretty much unspinnable.
It’s a golden opportunity to teach what it is, and hang it around the necks of Sotomayor and Obama. Tancredo opened the door, we need to seize the opportunity, not apologize for it.
Rebar on May 29, 2009 at 1:14 AM
If you think the Republican party is the answer to the country’s problems then you’re going to need a whole lot more immigration restrictionist like Tom Tancredo to lead the charge. Hispanics and other new-comer minority groups want nothing to do with the Republican party, as long as it stands for sound conservative principles. Yet because of immigration, both legal and illegal, the minority population in the country is growing year by year. I heard the other day that by 2020 Hispanics will make up around 13% of the electorate.
So you have two choices: Pander to the incoming minority groups like the liberals do (i.e. cease to be conservative), or protect America from this invading horde bent on our destruction by not only restricting illegal immigration, but legal immigration as well.
2Brave2Bscared on May 29, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Some people here are like someone in a foxhole without a gun. You give them a Tanc gun and they are afraid to fire it, or any other gun, because they think it might blow up in there face. So they don’t fire it and the enemy shoots and kills them.
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Most people in my town think it’s a grocery store.
Maybe it’s a coincidence that it’s in one of the high-crime areas. Maybe I’ll try open carrying down there. A t-shirt with the American flag on it might be a nice touch.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 1:15 AM
You sound like you have developed the perfect plan … … … for perpetual inaction.
I don’t measure a man’s success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom.
- George Patton
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 1:18 AM
There are no private conversations here.
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 1:20 AM
So what. If it pleases you then you can say The Race is like Aryan Nation, but with better lawyers or lower friends in higher places.
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 1:23 AM
Just because you believe it anytime somebody does a poll doesn’t mean it’s reality.
Jim Treacher on May 29, 2009 at 1:24 AM
We’ll either have to find a way to make it explode in their faces a second time or else let them take their ball and all go home, because if we simply let them win… they will have won.
FloatingRock on May 29, 2009 at 1:25 AM
That is what George Patton would do.
Chicken Little on the other hand would just run about worrying about
an accornthe sky falling.MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 1:27 AM
Wow, I’m as staunchly conservative as they come, and I feel myself being edged toward the tent door just for thinking we should fight a different way. Seriously, guys, you’re going to have about three people left under that tent if you keep this kind of thing up. Now it’s not even enough to completely agree on the issues — you have to want to fight the same way or you’re not allowed to even think you’re in the tent. Shoving people like Specter and Powell out is one thing. But shoving actual deep-red conservatives out is suicidal. For all of us. We will never stop the socialist tide if we keep losing elections. Period. We will never win elections again if we jealously guard our tiny tent that can contain only the truest of true believers ready to die on every last hill that comes along.
I’m tired and need to go to bed. I can’t be the lone voice of reason anymore for tonight. Enjoy your foam-flecked evening, my friends.
aero on May 29, 2009 at 1:27 AM
Losing a war is the surest path to defeat in war.
If your enemy wins the war, you are defeated.
- Sun Tzu’s Nephew
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 1:30 AM
Um, aren’t you the one telling people what they’re allowed to say if they want to be in the tent?
Ronnie on May 29, 2009 at 1:33 AM
Foam flecked evening….hmmmm, did we miss our monthly rabies shots?
HornetSting on May 29, 2009 at 1:33 AM
Are you Meagan McCain or David Frum?
A modest man was he, was he
Although his head is bigger than a tree
He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good.
- Confucius
MB4 on May 29, 2009 at 1:35 AM
No, I’m telling people what they should/shouldn’t say if they ever want to be in power again. I recognize that we’re all needed – even the moderate squishes – in order to win elections and regain the political power necessary to reverse this slide into socialism and prevent more disastrous SCOTUS appointments in an Obama second term.
(Okay, not in bed yet. Going in a minute.)
aero on May 29, 2009 at 1:36 AM
You know I’m rabid.
…in bed. Rawr.
MadisonConservative on May 29, 2009 at 1:38 AM
Well, I guess you’re screwed, because some people just speak the truth regardless of the consequences, and if people like Specter (who left the Democrats before he left the Republicans) don’t like it, we’ll I guess we haven’t lost much but a bunch of cowards.
Ronnie on May 29, 2009 at 1:39 AM
I’ve been here at HA, commenting regularly, for several years now, MB4. If you’ve paid attention at all, you know I’m no Meghan McCain or David Frum. I’m so deeply conservative that I annoy my Republican friends. I was for Sarah before it was cool to be for Sarah. I was for Fred long after it was cool to be for Fred.
But I’m also a pragmatist who wants to win influence in the government again.
aero on May 29, 2009 at 1:39 AM
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