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NY Dems to Obama: Butt out

posted at 2:14 pm on May 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Analysts have advised Republicans to go easy on Barack Obama, daunted by his personal popularity.  Apparently, Democrats in New York have no such qualms.  After Obama intervened to keep a challenger out of the primary against incumbent Senator Kirsten Gillibrand for a special election, the state’s Congressional delegation have begun muttering about Tammany Hall-style tactics:

President Barack Obama’s effort to squelch plans by a New York congressman to run in next year’s Democratic primary against Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand apparently succeeded.

In fact, the president’s call to Rep. Steve Israel asking him not to run may rank as a pivotal moment in Gillibrand’s effort to hang onto her seat.

But Obama’s phone call also has angered members of the state’s congressional delegation, who see it as heavy-handed intrusion reminiscent of Tammany Hall party machine politics.

The behind-the-scenes maneuvering has the makings of a political soap opera with some lawmakers feeling pressured to endorse early, some dissatisfied with Gillibrand’s views on key liberal issues, and some too upset to even break bread together.

Some delegation members say Gillibrand made things worse by calling fellow Democrats and citing White House support as a reason to endorse her.

This is the analog to the Republican consternation over the Florida Senate race, with Obama playing the role of the NRSC.  Gillibrand is a moderate, but by next year, the midterm winds may be blowing hard against the White House, and Obama will need Gillibrand rather than a die-hard liberal in that Senate race.  The numbers still favor Democrats on paper, but already Obama is losing ground on key issues, and if the economy doesn’t recover significantly, all that debt will look like a very bad bet.

Still, that’s the kind of decision that should be left to New York Democrats, and not the White House.  Unlike the Republicans in DC, though, Obama isn’t spending his time making a case for federalism.  His interference in the primary at least corresponds to his top-down policy preferences.  One can’t accuse Obama of hypocrisy on that count, although his election rhetoric of changing the way power gets used in the Beltway doesn’t exactly make this a model for his supposedly new, transparent, fresh-air era.

If Democrats can push back against Obama, maybe Republicans can find their testicular fortitude as well.


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Federalism, catch the FEVAH!!!

abobo on May 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM

the state’s Congressional delegation have begun muttering about Tammany Hall-style tactics

ah, but they’ll still support him in 2012 and smear palin with glee.

battleoflepanto1571 on May 26, 2009 at 2:17 PM

maybe Republicans can find their testicular fortitude as well.

Ironically the person in the GOP with the most testicular fortitude is Sarah Palin.

Tommy_G on May 26, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Butt out? They rolled over.

Blake on May 26, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Somewhere out there, Nelson Muntz is saying, “Hah-ha!”

DrAllecon on May 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Why do we even bother with these time consuming and pesky elections? Can’t we just let Obama pick who he wants? Some of you are still under the misunderstanding that we live in a representative democracy. Pffffft.

Sugar Land on May 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Yeah, GOP should stop playing catch up and start kicking ass. If this were Clinton, they’d eat him alive, so why spare Obama? The party’s white guilt is killing freedom everywhere.

promachus on May 26, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Rahm Emanuel leaves his fingerprints. This what his resume boasted and he was hired to do.

seven on May 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Chicago, Chicago, that toddlin’ town…

Mason on May 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM

“Moderate democrats” are the next target once Obama and Co. get through vilifying Republicans. Mark these words.

LibTired on May 26, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Rank-and-file Democrats in Pennsylvania are pissed about Obama’s early endorsement of Arlen Specter too. While nobody in the party hierarchy will go on the record, behind the scenes they are encouraging Joe Sestak to get into the race. Sestak is quoted in the Inquirer today saying he is still likely to run.

rockmom on May 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Mark these words.

LibTired on May 26, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Gird our loins?

Abby Adams on May 26, 2009 at 2:35 PM

The far left upset with the far leftist?

Upstater85 on May 26, 2009 at 2:36 PM

Just throwing it out there… but I wonder if Obama realized that the Donk name stood a chance of being tarnished if a far lefty challenged Gillibrand, won the Donk primary, then lost statewide…

Upstater85 on May 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Ironically the person in the GOP with the most testicular fortitude is Sarah Palin.

You got that right Tommy_G

beachgirlusa on May 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Gird our loins?

Abby Adams on May 26, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Like you’ve never girded before. Well, except before the election and before the inauguration and pretty much every day hence.

LibTired on May 26, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Ed, you cannot “find” what you never had. The key is to replace the incumbent Republican eunuchs with testicularly-enhanced conservatives (classic liberals) who are not hampered by white guilt and gutless pandering.

SKYFOX on May 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM

If Democrats can push back against Obama, maybe Republicans can find their testicular fortitude as well.

Instead of sending more teabags to them, send testosterone patches or facsimile.

MB4 on May 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM

If Democrats can push back against Obama, maybe Republicans can find their testicular fortitude as well.

Now if only Colin Powell could have said this….

Rovin on May 26, 2009 at 2:43 PM

Ben Smith at Politico originally reported that he was told that Rahm directly threatened Steve Israel with Obama campaiginging AGAINST HIM IN HARLEM and lack neighborhoods if he ran against Gillibrand, then of course the source ‘called back’ and mumbled it wasnt really a direct threat and didnt really involve Obama using the AA vote against a fellow Dem, cause everyone knows Obama would never play the race card on a fellow dem right?
BWAAAHAAAAAHAAAA!! Gimme a frakkin break, they pushed the thuig tactics and now are SHOCKED they are being used agsinst them..

well thems the way the chicago playahs play…

ginaswo on May 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM

upstater85
what will be REALLY interesting is how Obama plans to get the other Carolyn, the widow of the LIRR victim out of the race, she will NOT roll over under duress, she feels Gillibrand is too soft on guns, what an issue for TOTUS to defend Gillibrand on

another middle aged white woman is about to get in Obamas way..

karma

ginaswo on May 26, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Rasmussen has Barry at only +1 Aprrove/Disapprove. I can’t imagine why.

SouthernGent on May 26, 2009 at 2:46 PM

If Democrats can push back against Obama, maybe Republicans can find their testicular fortitude as well.

But don’t hold your breath. Eunuchs don’t fight back.

PrincipledPilgrim on May 26, 2009 at 2:47 PM

I think Barackus Casaer’s meeting with Hugo Chavez must have given Barackus ideas for his own ‘President-for-Life’… right after he’s done nationalizing the upper tiers of our GDP.

SilverStar830 on May 26, 2009 at 2:50 PM

upstater85
what will be REALLY interesting is how Obama plans to get the other Carolyn, the widow of the LIRR victim out of the race, she will NOT roll over under duress, she feels Gillibrand is too soft on guns, what an issue for TOTUS to defend Gillibrand on

another middle aged white woman is about to get in Obamas way..

karma

ginaswo on May 26, 2009 at 2:46 PM

You nailed it!

Upstater85 on May 26, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Tune-in tomorrow for the next episode of “Husseins Administration”..The acorn/affirmative action/socialist Soap opera.

christene on May 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM

A family squabble, it means nothing…

right2bright on May 26, 2009 at 3:04 PM

The party’s white guilt is killing freedom everywhere.

promachus on May 26, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Whites have lead the world in science, economics, art, government, medical, innovation, exploration, music, and culture for thousands of years. I don’t get white guilt bit.

I guess you have to be weak minded. I never had any slaves, but half the time I feel like a slave of the government having to give what I earn to others that don’t diserve it.

If you can’t cut it, it’s not my fault!

saiga on May 26, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Getting more Good Fellas every dang day.

Barack “The Mouth” Obama, and Rahm “The Meat Hook” Imanuel.

capejasmine on May 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM

Ben Smith at Politico originally reported that he was told that Rahm directly threatened Steve Israel with Obama campaiginging AGAINST HIM IN HARLEM and lack neighborhoods if he ran against Gillibrand, then of course the source ‘called back’ and mumbled it wasnt really a direct threat and didnt really involve Obama using the AA vote against a fellow Dem, cause everyone knows Obama would never play the race card on a fellow dem right?
BWAAAHAAAAAHAAAA!! Gimme a frakkin break, they pushed the thuig tactics and now are SHOCKED they are being used agsinst them..

well thems the way the chicago playahs play…

ginaswo on May 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM

I know Steve Israel and I’ll bet he told Rahm to stick it up his you-know-where.

rockmom on May 26, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Just another example of what Rush has called Chicago thug politics. Rush is right once again.

rbj on May 26, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Exactly how is this helping Michelle’s children?

jukin on May 26, 2009 at 3:44 PM

With the vicious hate that consumes the dumocrats, it is only a matter of time until they attack their own. Thug politics is just business as usual. Life goes on.

volsense on May 26, 2009 at 4:01 PM

If Democrats can push back against Obama, maybe Republicans can find their testicular fortitude as well.

You must be talking about Powell and the rest of the moderate republican beltway insiders. /sarc

DannoJyd on May 26, 2009 at 4:02 PM

This is the analog to the Republican consternation over the Florida Senate race, with Obama playing the role of the NRSC.

Uh, not really. The NRSC was doing what they’re supposed to do, whether you like their decision or not. Who the Democrats run in New York, on the other hand, is none of Obama’s business.

rightwingprof on May 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM

How many “fingerprints” did Rahm leave behind? :)

JoeySlippers on May 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM

You aren’t popular just because people won’t tell the pollsters they don’t like the black guy. You are just lying and everyone knows the game. Why do you think the black stooge was picked? For his experience?

tarpon on May 26, 2009 at 4:33 PM

If Democrats can push back against Obama, maybe Republicans can find their testicular fortitude as well.

Not with both hands, a flashilight, and GPS.

BobMbx on May 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Butt out? But he won!

Kensington on May 26, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Whites have lead the world in science, economics, art, government, medical, innovation, exploration, music, and culture for thousands of years.
saiga on May 26, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Hmmmm. If your definition of ‘white’ is anybody whose skin is paler than an espresso then I guess you could be correct … otherwise ‘thousands of years’ seems to be stretching it a bit.

YiZhangZhe on May 26, 2009 at 5:26 PM

His interference in the primary at least corresponds to his top-down policy preferences.

Funny how Barry knows best when it comes to policy-making, but when it comes to ’spreading the wealth around’ he believes in bottom-up (so long as he can steal from the top to pay for it).

redfoxbluestate on May 26, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Ironically the person in the GOP with the most testicular fortitude is Sarah Palin.

Tommy_G on May 26, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Just edging out Liz Cheney.

TugboatPhil on May 26, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Good grief Ed!

If you want to talk balls, have the balls to say balls, not “testicular fortitude.” When you repeatedly use a silly, worn out euphemism for an unremarkable metaphor, it’s time to seek professional help.

JM Hanes on May 26, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Whites have lead the world in science, economics, art, government, medical, innovation, exploration, music, and culture for thousands of years.
saiga on May 26, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Hmmmm. If your definition of ‘white’ is anybody whose skin is paler than an espresso then I guess you could be correct … otherwise ‘thousands of years’ seems to be stretching it a bit.

YiZhangZhe on May 26, 2009 at 5:26 PM

.
The Muslim world did preserve some knowledge during the European “Dark Ages”, but after the Europeans of the time demonstrated what they had learned in engineering, and the military arts, during the Middle Ages. The Muslims burned their libraries in the name of Allah.

darktood on May 26, 2009 at 8:46 PM

While I disagree with much of what goes on N.Y.It takes the Big Apple sensiblty to to render a slap-down when appropriate.New York may have voted for the POS,But New York isn’t taking any s—.Never been there ,but I LOVE NEW YORK.You have to know some people from Brooklyn or the Bronx to understand.

DDT on May 26, 2009 at 8:51 PM

*Yawn* What I want to know is how the garden and the puppy are doing.

You know, the issues the American people really care about…

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 27, 2009 at 3:02 AM

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