Look who’s rehabilitating!

posted at 11:38 am on May 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Andrew Malcolm notices an interesting result from the latest CNN poll, one which CNN itself hesitates to note.  Since going on the offensive against a popular new president, former VP Dick Cheney has improved his favorability rating, and perhaps that of his former boss as well:

The more former Vice President Dick Cheney criticizes the Obama administration for drastically changing the national security policies of the Bush administration, the more popular Cheney seems to become among some Americans. …

[A] little-noticed new CNN/Opinion Research poll released the other day shows Cheney’s favorable ratings have jumped by more than a quarter since last winter.

And this May poll of 1,010 adults was taken before his widely viewed speech to the American Enterprise Institute that further assaulted President Obama’s policies for threatening U.S. national security.

Cheney has rapidly improved his standing, from a low point of 29% to 37%, a gain in terms of ratio of more than 27% in just four months.  Bush improved from 35% to 41%.   Of course, as Andrew points out, he’s still seen unfavorably by a majority of Americans (55%), and so is Bush (57%).  It seems that the undecideds have begun to break back in favor of both, perhaps garnering some better support from previously disaffected Republicans and a few independents.

When Cheney first began pushing back against Barack Obama’s repeated and scornful assessments of the Bush administration, most analysts figured that Cheney was tilting at windmills — and that the GOP needed to distance themselves from Cheney.  The rapid re-evaluation appears to have made hash of that advice.  If Cheney — a politician as unpopular as Richard Nixon — could strengthen his standing by demanding an honest debate from the President, then perhaps other Republicans should be following suit.  Obama may have a large font of personal popularity among the electorate, but Cheney’s taking his national-security policy stands apart, mostly because he seems to be the only Republican willing to do it.

I’d prefer that fresh Republican leadership take that role, as I wrote earlier this year, but in the absence of any such leadership, Cheney appears to be doing an effective job.  How effective?  E.J. Dionne reported this weekend that Obama now has to hold dual briefings to convince the center-right that he’s just as tough as Cheney on Guantanamo:

Last Thursday afternoon, for example, the White House invited in journalists, mostly opinion writers, to sell them on the substance of the president’s big speech on Guantanamo and the treatment of detainees.

Unbeknown to the writers until afterward, they had been divided into two groups, one more centrist with a sprinkling of moderate conservatives, the other more liberal. (I was in the liberal group.) The president made an unscheduled appearance at each briefing. As is his way, he charmed both groups.

The idea, as far as I can determine, was to sell the liberal group on those aspects of Obama’s plan that are a break from George W. Bush’s policies, and to sell the centrist group on the toughness of the president’s approach and the fact that it squares with Bush’s more moderate moves later in his second term.

Dionne believes that Cheney “helped” Obama with his speech at AEI that day criticizing Obama on his national-security policies, but the very existence of the dual briefings shows that Cheney is drawing blood in this debate.  It also calls into question the honesty of Obama.  Why make two different cases simultaneously, telling one group that he’s abandoning Bush’ policies and the other that he is not?  Does Dionne believe that builds Obama’s credibility, or undermine it?

Cheney isn’t making two different and nearly mutually exclusive cases.  Right or wrong, Cheney’s only talking out of one side of his mouth.  The fact that Obama has to talk out of both sides, rather than simply make a cogent and consistent argument to all Americans, shows that Cheney has pushed him out of his comfort zone, and Obama’s flailing in response.

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Dick Cheney, gets results.

rollthedice on May 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Why make two different cases simultaneously, telling one group that he’s abandoning Bush’ policies and the other that he is not?

Because Ogabe is continuing what he did during his campaign, telling Jews one thing and Palestinians another?

Ogabe couldn’t care less how his policies affect the nation, he has constituencies to reward.

Bishop on May 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Absolutely!!! Cheney for President!!! He’s the only one that’s out there swinging away at BO’s national insecurity policies. All the “repuke-icans” can do nothing but bicker and squabble at each other. It’s sickening.

ErinF on May 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Cheney’s recent speech articulated what a great many people really feel about the issue. The polls have shown consistently that the majority are not interested in the left-wing punishment agenda. Obama truly messed this issue up. Pelosi took a nosedive right into the muck of it.

Cheney simply made sense, which a lot of the GOP spokespeople have, for some reason, been unable to do.

AnninCA on May 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Well, it’s easy for Cheney. His story has stayed consistent all along.

Mr. D on May 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Bush and Cheney kept us safe for 7+ years we had no business being safe in. This will become more apparent to many as historical context piles on.

LibTired on May 26, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Cheneys’ numbers moving up?

Sounds like buyers remorse. But, Cheney didn’t run. It must irk Axelrod to no end that Obama’s policy failures are being compared to the policies of a guy that didn’t even run against him….(VP for 8 years notwithstanding).

BobMbx on May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Funny how leadership is always appreciated and respected.

RINO’s – are you watching?

jake-the-goose on May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

the more cheney puts himself out there, the better his ratings are going to get. Most people who didn’t like him, including me, did so based on myths surrounding him, and not on the person himself.

Chiasmos on May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Does anyone else besides myself think that Cheney is gearing up for the Presidentual run?

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

When you speak the truth, you don’t have to look to others to bolster your ideas. It’s out there and everyone who hears it knows it. The truth has that certain ring to it. It cannot be spun.

BetseyRoss on May 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I don’t know whose idea it was to keep Cheney off the big stage during Bush’s last term, but it was a bad idea. He is a formidable debater with tons of background and he oozes gravitas. Putting a muzzle on him only encouraged the nutroots. The donks have no one who comes close to matching him.

a capella on May 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Cheney = True Alpha Male

when they stand up and lead, people Follow

jp on May 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Fire Steele. Hire Cheney.

Rebar on May 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Any chance of a backlash from the Liberal group when they find out they’re being “managed”?

What am I thinking? They’re probably waiting by the phone for Him to call. Our President is so dreamy. I can’t wait until my unicorn gets here. Have you seen his pictures in Tiger Beat?

trubble on May 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Well, it’s easy for Cheney. His story has stayed consistent all along.

Mr. D on May 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Sure it’s easy to debate when you aren’t a liar!

conservnut on May 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Does anyone else besides myself think that Cheney is gearing up for the Presidentual run?

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

that would be awesome in alot of ways

jp on May 26, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Silently Americans come to grips with that awful sinking feeling in the pit of their stomachs. The world’s petty dictators and tyrants are lining up to go on the attack, and even Obama’s ardent supporters are asking what is Obama going to do about it,while knowing,sensing somehow, that all of our lives are in jeopardy. When Cheney said Obama’s foreign policies hurt national security and endangered American lives both at home and abroad-We bare witness to N.Korea,Iraq,Russia,Pakistan,Somalia,Afghanistan, and Iran and realize that Cheney was absolutely right.

canditaylor68 on May 26, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Why make two different cases simultaneously, telling one group that he’s abandoning Bush’ policies and the other that he is not?

Seriously. I mean, What? No one can honestly square this circle.

amkun on May 26, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Plainly spoken, the man is a rock.

Running for POTUS? No way. Showing young conservatives how it’s done? Oh yeah!

LadinPlaid on May 26, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Cheney has pushed him out of his comfort zone, and Obama’s flailing in response.

Which is why the fawning left want Cheny to sit down and shut up and fade away. Competition of intellect is not their strong suit.

44Magnum on May 26, 2009 at 11:52 AM

People respect those who speak the unflinching truth. Cheney was always popular with those who knew him. People who disliked Cheney mostly knew only what others said about him.

progressoverpeace on May 26, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Does anyone else besides myself think that Cheney is gearing up for the Presidentual run?

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Dunno. I doubt it. Perhaps Cheney is just doing what he thinks is right, and by doing so he demonstrating what leadership is.

It was refreshing to see him last week. Leaders make tough decisions as best they can. Being “popular” isn’t a requirement in my opinion. Cheney can do that. He’s a man, an adult.

The same cannot be said of the current occupant of the WH.

Cody1991 on May 26, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Cody1991 on May 26, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Keep a close eye Cody…. something is a brewing.

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Keep the heat on Mr. VP

Hummer53 on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Does anyone else besides myself think that Cheney is gearing up for the Presidentual run?

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

No way.

jake-the-goose on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Obama flailing? Ed, you have a highly active imagination. Obama’s bringing separate coalitions together, which is why his approval/disapproval ratings are the inverse of Cheney’s. Dick is the one flailing, first demanding secrecy at every turn, now demanding full disclosure in a FLAILING attempt to redeem his legacy. Try describing reality for what it is instead of what you want it to be. That might be a good first step for conservatives back towards relevancy.

underceij on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Great post, Ed.

jake the goose is right. This is leadership.

Stand on principles and speak to the point.

It’s also called governing rather than “ruling”.

INC on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Cheney 2012.

SCOOPTHIScarlos on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Why make two different cases simultaneously, telling one group that he’s abandoning Bush’ policies and the other that he is not?

Isn’t the GOP doing the same thing too?

Telling one group that Obama is continuing Bush era policies for the most part, thus confirming the practically reality and need for them.

and then saying at same time, Obama is endangering the nation. Which he is, atleast through idiot SCOTUS picks and sending signals of weakness abroad

jp on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Keep up the good work VP Cheney and daughter Liz. You both do good telling the truth.
L

letget on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

No way.

jake-the-goose on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Why? Tell me why?

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Cheney has an unfair advantage. He gets to say what he believes. Obama has to say what he thinks people want to hear.

PackerBronco on May 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM

For two years, Republicans have been trying to figure out: How do you oppose the Democrats without appearing to defend the Bush-Cheney record.

Looks like we have the answer. You do defend the Bush-Cheney record. At least the good parts, of which there are plenty.

calabrese on May 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Its sad that it seems like only the Cheney’s can articulate a clear position on the war on terror (or “international pillow fight” if that’s Obama is calling it now).

What an opportunity for someone in the party to take leadership by simply standing up and stating the conservative position with conviction. Obama is a lying coward and any frontal confrontation will begin to weaken him.

chromium on May 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM

someone that comments on another site told me that the only reason O was elected was because a lot of registered republicans and independents stayed away from this last election cycle. Look at what this has wrought.

Necromancer on May 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM

These numbers were pre-Nork nuke test. I think the Bolton/Bush/Cheney axis of evil will poll even higher today.

Angry Dumbo on May 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM

I blame the Cheneykus. They were just teh awesome.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Isn’t the GOP doing the same thing too?

jp on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

A party is a group of people, each speaking with a different voice and emphasizing different things. The President though has to speak with a single voice.

It’s called leadership.

PackerBronco on May 26, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Keep a close eye Cody…. something is a brewing.

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM

It would be fine with me if he does. Cheney was always ‘my guy.’ I respect him. When the left was screaming that Cheney was actually the Pres. and not Bush, it didn’t seem like a bad idea! :))

Cody1991 on May 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

He’s not running for POTUS, his health doesn’t permit that among other things but he is a patriot and you’ve to believe him when he says he won’t let down the lawyers and the CIA professionals.

promachus on May 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

“I’d prefer that fresh Republican leadership take that role, as I wrote earlier this year, but in the absence of any such leadership, Cheney appears to be doing an effective job.”

No kidding – who wouldn’t. However, is it the old “gravitas” problem? All those people – Cantor, whoever else – they would probably just be ignored or laughed at. People know deep down Cheney’s right.

Maybe after a little more work from Cheney, the ground will be fertile for someone else like Cantor or whoever to give a similarly “big speech” w/o being ignored by the MSM and everyone else.

thebadoutlaw on May 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Tear him a new rear end, Mr Cheney. Dick Cheney is schooling the Harvard grad each day he is allowed to speak. I hope you do in all 57 states!!!

Now Obama, about that nuclear armed North Korea? crickets…

dthorny on May 26, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Why? Tell me why?

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Too old, bad heart. The same drumbeat they threw around about McCain.

But I do believe Liz has a great future somewhere.

Knucklehead on May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM

He’s not running for POTUS, his health doesn’t permit that among other things but he is a patriot and you’ve to believe him when he says he won’t let down the lawyers and the CIA professionals.

promachus on May 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

That is interesting. My Dad had the same procedures that Cheney had and still worked until he had a heart transplant and even then begrudgedly gave up his position.

LOL, how does a quadruple bi-pass stop someone? That is like saying a cancer patient shouldn’t keep going because they have cancer!

Goood Grief!

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Dionne is an intelligent guy albeit pretty far left. At some point, even he will have to admit that Obama is straddling the fence in an effort to please everyone in his constituency. How long can he continue to pursue this campaign strategy? I would venture to say not a whole lot longer.

Obama is beginning to chew up his political capital. Axelrod must beginning to think that all the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put President Humpty Dumpty back together again.

jdflorida on May 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM

This just shows how “meek” President Bush was. He just wasn’t enough of a “street fighter” to bring his case. And we still haven’t heard from him.
Cheney and, one should add, his brilliant well spoken daughter Liz, have began to show how paper thin the attacks on President Bush were…but because they were never defended, they were accepted.

right2bright on May 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Oh noose , he’s killing the dream of the moderates and rinos.

the_nile on May 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Too old, bad heart. The same drumbeat they threw around about McCain.

But I do believe Liz has a great future somewhere.

Knucklehead on May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Nope don’t believe that just because someone who has ailments shouldn’t work.. or be President.

Hmm I can think of a few Presidents of the past whom were much sicker then Cheney is.

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM

From David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross:
“Always tell the truth ….. it’s the easiest thing to remember.”

TexasJew on May 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Oh my gosh Obama’s division of the press is the most chilling thing I ever heard! I’m glad someone noticed.

That explains a lot!

Oh and go Cheney!

petunia on May 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Plainly spoken, the man is a rock.

Running for POTUS? No way. Showing young conservatives how it’s done? Oh yeah!

LadinPlaid on May 26, 2009 at 11:52 AM

And a raw, hate-filled, racist, class warefare spewing president as well. The

dthorny on May 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Did I ever mention that Cheney spoke at my son’s college graduation? During the darkest part of Iraq. We were probably the only ones who wanted him.

petunia on May 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM

“Obama now has to hold dual briefings” Double talker promotes double think..

the_nile on May 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM

blah blah about Bambi’s approval ratings …underceij on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Here’s a partial list of things that don’t give a fig about Bambi’s approval ratings:

1. North Korea
2. Iran
3. Al Quaeda
4. The Dow Jones
5. The price of oil
6. The inflation index
7. The budget deficit
8. me

PackerBronco on May 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM

And a raw, hate-filled, racist, class warefare spewing president as well. The

dthorny on May 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Yeah, Barry hasn’t done much outreach to those “typical white folks who cling to their Bibles and guns” has he?

Cody1991 on May 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Obama held two separate meetings with the journalists because he uses two teleprompters. He used the left teleprompter to talk to E. J. Dionne’s group and the right teleprompter to talk to the right leaning group.

OxyCon on May 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM

VP Cheney is no longer muzzled by his CinC. He is now a private citizen and can express his opinions freely. God bless him for it. I am sick of the spineless so-called conservatives who thought that running away from Bush and the right things they had done would make the wrong things, the ridiculous spending increases and growth in entitlements, more palatable to actual conservatives. In truth it just proved Dems will always have the edge in giving stuff away.

mchristian on May 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM

My vote was always for Cheney/ Bush.

I have a poster of Cheney on the wall of my bedroom (not really, but I’d consider it!). I heart Cheney.

Security Mom on May 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM

LOL, how does a quadruple bi-pass stop someone? That is like saying a cancer patient shouldn’t keep going because they have cancer!

Goood Grief!

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM

As much as many of us would love to see Chehey run, he won’t. He cited his health as the reason for not entering the last presidential race. And 4 years from now, he’s only going to be another 4 years older.

The left would gleefully hammer away on him over his heart issues. Remember their battle cry last time, “a heartbeat away….” They want the public to fear that the person they are going to elect president could die in office.

UltimateBob on May 26, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Please, enought with the polls and the approval ratings of Bush and Cheney. Why are the polsters even spending money on polling people. They are out of office and will not return to office.

I like Cheney. I am glad he is speaking out now, but where were theys guys when they should have been defending their policies while they were in office? When you lay it out the way it’s being laid out by them now, people get it. Perhaps up and coming conservatives will learn how it’s done. But why it wasn’t done during their administration is beyond me.

gstrickler on May 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM

The world’s petty dictators and tyrants are lining up to go on the attack, and even Obama’s ardent supporters are asking what is Obama going to do about it,while knowing,sensing somehow, that all of our lives are in jeopardy.

Yep, you never really understand how thin your front door is until someone starts trying to smash their way through it, especially when looking out the windows and seeing a bunch of thugs with sledgehammers approaching.

Bishop on May 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I am sick of the spineless so-called conservatives who thought that running away from Bush and the right things they had done would make the wrong things, the ridiculous spending increases and growth in entitlements, more palatable to actual conservatives.

mchristian on May 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Exactly.

Do we need any further proof (than this poll) that the party does not need to move more to the center (as Colin Powell would have us believe), but more to the right?

UltimateBob on May 26, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Obama and his teleprompter have doubled up and demonstrated Cheney is both honest and rational.
They are making dick cheny look strong.

seven on May 26, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Looks like we have the answer. You do defend the Bush-Cheney record. At least the good parts, of which there are plenty.

calabrese on May 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM

If only they had done a little vigorous defending while they were in office, I think there’d be less of this “Evil Cheney” or “Evil Bush” belief. Not zero, just less. As we all know, they seemed to just sit there and take it for years.

cranbone on May 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM

UltimateBob on May 26, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Bob, ahh true. I had forgotten that BUT this is what may be odd.

Why still “stand up” if you are this bad. Did he know he would lose if he tried to run due to the “love fest” via the Obama bots? Or is he letting it roll along with the disasterous tide before showing the testicular fortitude… as he is showing now?

Something is stirring…

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Cheney simply made sense, which a lot of the GOP spokespeople have, for some reason, been unable to do.

AnninCA on May 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM

It’s because Cheney has BALLS OF STEEL. Other Republicans ran fast and hard from the Bush administration, even though there were times the de facto head of our party, despite the idiot jokes and “war criminal” histrionics, was RIGHT. Like when it came to keeping our nation safe.

Republicans who run from the previous administration have no ground to stand on, because they can’t talk about what really worked. Dick Cheney pointed out that he is a free man; he has no approval ratings to worry about or elections to win, which makes him braver than the gutless wonders who are currently running the Republican party.

And a special thanks to Colin Powell and John McCain, both of whom have played the useful idiot nicely for the Dems. I hope Colin Powell stays out of future electoral politics, because he’ll meet the same fate as his friend John McCain. Stabbed in the back by those you thought you could trust.

chunderroad on May 26, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Obama’s bringing separate coalitions together

underceij on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Separate coalitions? You must be kidding.

Unless you’re talking about ACORN and SEIU and Code Pink.

And, pray tell, just what are these separate coalitions going to accomplish?

UltimateBob on May 26, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Does anyone else besides myself think that Cheney is gearing up for the Presidentual run?

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

I’m afraid Cheney’s health issues make a presidential run unlikely. I wish that weren’t so.

zeebeach on May 26, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Something is stirring…

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Let’s hope.

But the way Hussein is screwing up, I can see the door wide open for pretty much any conservative in 4 years.

The winner might be someone who has not even emerged yet. Remember, nobody outside of Chicago really even heard of Obama 4 years ago.

UltimateBob on May 26, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Obama flailing? Ed, you have a highly active imagination. Obama’s bringing separate coalitions together, which is why his approval/disapproval ratings are the inverse of Cheney’s. Dick is the one flailing, first demanding secrecy at every turn, now demanding full disclosure in a FLAILING attempt to redeem his legacy. Try describing reality for what it is instead of what you want it to be. That might be a good first step for conservatives back towards relevancy.

underceij on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

High poll numbers…..With the American Idol nation I’m not impressed. Most people who love The Stink can not even have a civil discussion of his positions.

I think you need to remember Cheney is NOT the one who released the documents……The Stink did AND The Stink only released a partial portion of the doc’s which put W in a bad light. Cheney called him on it & now The Stink is scrambling to make the EVIL Cheney be silent. So put that in your relevancy bong & smoke it.

BTW, Reality, it’s where I live unicorn free. Your world, unicorns run free.

VikingGoneWild on May 26, 2009 at 12:25 PM

The Bush Administration refused to respond to the most hate filled propaganda assault in our nation’s history on him, personally, and his party, that has ever been in our history. Since the dims own the mainstream media, the brainwashing by the media and public school systems has lemmings repeating talking points that are ingrained by these conditioned responses on their mental psyche. Responses by Cheney are a long time in coming, but it will not effect public perception overnight. It is a step in the right direction.

volsense on May 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM

UltimateBob on May 26, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Bob I totally agree.

But mark my words… Cheney is going to be sticking around for a while. Heart and health problems or not. Just by this, I am thinking he is going to go out for the long haul!

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Does anyone else besides myself think that Cheney is gearing up for the Presidentual run?

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

I sure hope so, but I’m worried about the health of his heart. But, if he has Sarah as VP, I wouldn’t worry about it.

Now, back to reading the rest of the thread.

cjs1943 on May 26, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Obama’s bringing separate coalitions together

underceij on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Keeping the members of a coalition in seperate rooms and providing a different message to each, is uh…a coalition?

Where does “bringing together” fit with that?

What you really meant to say is “The Emperor has really nice clothes”.

BobMbx on May 26, 2009 at 12:27 PM

chunderroad on May 26, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Powell is very adept at stabbing people in the back. Maybe he’ll hang around long enough to find out how it feels.

Cody1991 on May 26, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Remember, nobody outside of Chicago really even heard of Obama 4 years ago.

UltimateBob on May 26, 2009 at 12:25 PM

The media was breaking out the kneepads after his speach at the 2004 Dem convention. It was breathlessly spoken of as the greatest human utterance ever, until his next speach.

CDeb on May 26, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Cheney was always strictly a far-left bogeyman. I think the vast majority of Americans either had no opinion or a favorable opinion of him. They never heard or read any of the fever-swamp bullshit about Cheney being some dark evil mastermind of an endless-war-that-takes-away-all-of-our-civil-liberties policy. I think most people actually remember him most for his calm, in-charge manner on 9/11 and afterward. It was Bush that the country soured on, as much because of his personality as his policies, and that is why he is still such an easy and lazy target for the Obama crowd. I think the White House is going to be flailing in vain trying to demonize Cheney with the broad electorate.

rockmom on May 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM

That might be a good first step for conservatives back towards relevancy.

underceij

The last thing I believe you want is relevancy for conservatives, so pardon me while I treat your suggestion for the crap that it is.

SKYFOX on May 26, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Something is stirring…

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM

He’s grooming his daughter Liz to make a run for something. That’s whats brewing.

What state does she live in? Any open seats? Perhaps Secretary of State for whomever?

Knucklehead on May 26, 2009 at 12:33 PM

I’d prefer that fresh Republican leadership take that role, as I wrote earlier this year, but in the absence of any such leadership, Cheney appears to be doing an effective job.

It’s better that Cheney’s doing it, because nobody can claim he’s pulling one over on them with his warmth and charm.

Telling the truth, plainly and simply, has set a liar back on his heels. Who woulda thunk it?

Jim Treacher on May 26, 2009 at 12:33 PM

I don’t think VP Cheney is interested in being POTUS.

His daughter the ohtwer day said he really doesn’t want to be in the limelight, but nobody else is doing what needs to be done.

Young repub leaders need to get a clue and adopt Mr. Cheney as a mentor.

He would make great Chief of Staff though.

davidk on May 26, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Even if Cheney’s contempaltinga future run, I’d welcome him with open arms. We need tough guys like him.

promachus on May 26, 2009 at 12:34 PM

This simply a case of the experienced adult versus the amateur man child.

katiejane on May 26, 2009 at 12:35 PM

The media was breaking out the kneepads after his speach at the 2004 Dem convention. It was breathlessly spoken of as the greatest human utterance ever, until his next speach.

CDeb on May 26, 2009 at 12:28 PM

That is true, but then he briefly fell off the radar screen after he proclaimed he would not run for President.

Well, we see where that promise is today…. on the junkpile, like the rest of his promises. I guess his buddies Rev Wright and Bill Ayars twisted his arm and convinced him that he should run.

UltimateBob on May 26, 2009 at 12:35 PM

The difference between seasoned, and experienced, and inept, childish, and dishonest.

capejasmine on May 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Well, it’s easy for Cheney. His story has stayed consistent all along.

Mr. D on May 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Sure it’s easy to debate when you aren’t a liar!

conservnut on May 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM

No, it’s easiest to debate when you can tell lie after lie (like Obama and Biden) and no one calls you on it!
And it’s even easier when you separate the audience by their values and lie differently depending which audience you are speaking to.

Christian Conservative on May 26, 2009 at 12:38 PM

The country would have been better off had he been Pt resident. He wouldn’t have sat back and took it the way Bush did. He would have fought back like he is now and he would have won supporters with his straight forward, no BS approach.

TheBigOldDog on May 26, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Knucklehead on May 26, 2009 at 12:33 PM

She apparently lives in Virginia, if she lives in the same as house as her husband because her husband lives in Virginia. So, she could be challenging Jim Webb in 2012.

Someone else has said that since she studied in Colorado, she could move there and make a run and that’d make it possible for her to run in 2010. But, she needs to do it quickly as there’s no time remaining.

GOP bigwigs are apparently suggesting that she become versed in military policy. I think she’d be a deadly SOS but she needs to pile up more experience in the next 4 years so that she can be ready for a GOP administration but she can do that how?

As you can see, Liz is playing on mind for some time now.

promachus on May 26, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Cheney took Barry
to school, then to the wood shed
Barry got smacked down

ladyingray on May 26, 2009 at 12:41 PM

underceij on May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Thanks for your… concern.

Jim Treacher on May 26, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Cheney was muzzled by Bush, so the left painted his image — left as the undertaker to an incompetent administration.

Cheney unleashed is a different story.

Feedie on May 26, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Cheney’s always had a low-key approach to all of his interviews or speeches. I remember the media was amazed at the Cheney-Lieberman VP debates…about how great it was to to have 2 thoughtful men discussing the issues.

Cheney hasn’t changed at all. The negative perception of he and other Bush folks was allowed to happen. The Bush family’s vision of a “Kinder, gentler” nation is laudable, but GWB just took it too far.

The idea that Mr. Cheney is Darth Vader is totally the fault of the Bush folks. They let it happen (sorry, still makes me go “grrr”).

Mr. Cheney is reacting normally. Finally, someone is.

cranbone on May 26, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Think of it this way, upinak: Cheney has served his country. Under any other new president, that would’ve been sufficient. But Obama went after him, so now Cheney’s standing up for himself and everyone who served with him. He’s succeeding in that role. Asking more of him at this point seems premature.

Jim Treacher on May 26, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Does Dionne believe that builds Obama’s credibility, or undermine it?

The only reason to read Dionne is to marvel at the way he twists logic and bludgeons credulity in order to make his case for Obama.

I love how he adds that the president made an “unscheduled” appearance before both groups. Really? It was unscheduled? He just popped in and decided to make his case(s) since you media types were all there anyway?

EJ Dionne: Whitehouse pawn.

landshark on May 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Just to finish my thoughts on Liz Cheney, from her TV appearances she has the temperament of a SOS than a senator/crongresswoman. She’s another John Bolton in the making, I hope.

promachus on May 26, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Something is stirring…

upinak on May 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Young repub leaders need to get a clue and adopt Mr. Cheney as a mentor.

davidk on May 26, 2009 at 12:34 PM

This is my take on it too – if a republican – one who has his principles and priorities in line – and has a spine – can have a very positive future following Cheney’s lead.

tru2tx on May 26, 2009 at 12:47 PM

The Won tells his audience what they want to hear and then continues down the road of Marx.

jukin on May 26, 2009 at 12:49 PM

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