Powell to Rush and Cheney: Yes, I’m still a Republican

posted at 2:43 pm on May 24, 2009 by Allahpundit

Time for another round of increasingly tedious GOP big tent/small tent navel-gazing, this time with moderates on the offensive. Powell’s point about Limbaugh not being above criticism is fair enough but I don’t know what he expects from big shots like Steele who’ve been forced to grovel to him. As the GOP shrinks, it relies more heavily on the base for fundraising; the base adores Rush, so as a matter of simple politics, party leaders can’t afford to take him on. It’ll necessarily fall to moderates like Powell who are outside the process and have nothing to lose by antagonizing El Rushbo to push back. If the Republican brain trust is hot to expand the party, Cornyn’s strategy of tempting independents by running some moderates for Senate is probably their best play right now. The public backlash to Hopenchange’s ruinous spending should take care of the rest, if and when it happens. It will happen, right? Right?

Below Powell, as a variation on today’s theme, you’ll find a quickie of Tom Ridge hitting Rush for his “shrillness.” Should be a fun day at EIB tomorrow.

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I said almost “all states had segregation laws.” If someone said that the laws were federal, it was not me. You have me confused some else.

baldilocks on May 24, 2009 at 8:38 PM

I’ll add an anecdote to your conversation, if i may. The original title on the house I live in (built in southern California in 1937) says it can only be owned by “a member of the Caucasian Christian race.” Now, I don’t know that “segregation laws” per se were on the books here in the 1930s, but with housing restrictions like that you would wind up with de facto segregation in housing and in schools as well. Public transportation could be another tweak that would reinforce certain housing and labor patterns. Of course, the “Christian” part was added to make sure the Jews didn’t slip in by passing as White. Jews were kept out of the wealthiest part of town until the late 50s by similar restriction and “gentlemen’s agreement.” So segregation with a capital S? Maybe not, but it sure was systematic and apparently both official and legal.

okonkolo on May 24, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Eventually, when I was discovered by the people with whom I lived, there was quite a commotion, and I was dragged away, while the other little boy was left crying. I was brought back to the cottage where I got quite a beating, to the point that I was unable to go out for the rest of our stay.

I was totally clueless about what I had done wrong, and about what was wrong with going over to the other side of that rope. I still am. But I have never forgotten that little boy.

Loxodonta on May 24, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Grew up in the North in the 60′s. Went South camping alot during vacations. A group of us were playing basketball at the campground. A group of black boys came and played basketball with us. No big deal, lots of grins and high fives, boys and girls playing together and it was fun. Wham, the park ranger showed up and made the blacks leave! The rest of us just stood there with the basketball bouncing away….no one could figure out what was so wrong. I received my first hard lesson in forced segregation. All the parents were cool about it and explained it well. No beatings like you loxodonta but I will never forget it.

Coastal Paradise on May 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Zell Miller, 2004.

Conservative Southern Democrat, probably never really fit in with the National Democratic agenda. Didn’t run for reelection.

cs89 on May 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Yes. Thanks for the memories!

And Zell Miller was treated with the greatest respect by Democrats and liberals after he endorsed Bush.

Ah ha. Sure. And I’m the Queen of England.

Loxodonta on May 24, 2009 at 9:27 PM

There is really no point in having this discussion since Powell and Ridge are not listening. They say they want a debate and then they call Rush shrill.
Powell and these RINO’s just need defeated. Then when we are in power,, they will talk like they were on our side all the time. That is what they do. They follow the wind.
I still think Ridge is a decent guy,,, he is being used here. I bet he hasn’t even listened to Rush’s program or even know for sure what Rush has actually said.

JellyToast on May 24, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Q. What do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A. A good start.

Q. When a lawyer falls in the water, why don’t the sharks attack?
A. Professional courtesy.

Q. Why did New North Jersey get all the toxic dumps and New York all the lawyers?
A. New North Jersey won the toss.

Wethal on May 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Fixed it for ya

The difference between residents of North Jersey and South Jersey is the North Jersey folks say they are from New Jersey and the South Jersey folks say they are from South Jersey. Fact – the ten southern-most counties of NJ voted overwhelmingly in 1976 to secede from New Jersey. But it was a non-binding referendum so it didn’t stick.

CatchAll on May 24, 2009 at 9:33 PM

As for Rush being an entertainer,,,
No,, it is the mainstream media that are the entertainers.
They entertain every thought and message the Dems and Obama send their way. They are nothing but a joke!
Rush and talk radio are the real media. They are the real journalists!

JellyToast on May 24, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Nancy could learn some things from Powell about dancing under pressure.

Upstater85 on May 24, 2009 at 5:19 PM

OT But Nancy Pelosi is currently in China with John Kerry spreading their charisma and alarmism about global climate change. I’m sure that the clout that those two clowns have will affect Chinese environmental policy./s

onlineanalyst on May 24, 2009 at 9:34 PM

One thing about that: his grandfather felt that he needed a black male role model. Why? Sounds racist to me. My white brother-in-law doesn’t think that his sons need a black man to show them how to be men.

baldilocks on May 24, 2009 at 7:40 PM

The twisted white grandfather needed the male role model himself. If they’d been in San Francisco, it might have been China Town he’d hung around, ohne Barack. The “black” role model was a matter of carnal convenience and happened to fit the politically “artistic” Communist movement in Hawaii /author from Chicago. Grampa got to pretend he was babysitting while he was chewing the breeze or getting a blow job.

A historical aside, regarding adoption of black children, following the Black Is Beautiful and the Black Power era, it remained the Blacks organizing to make it officially unacceptable for whites to adopt a black child, that the black baby must be raised by blacks, only blacks could truly understand/love the child. And the ACLU supported that claim. The same pretense exists for black only clubs at schools, buying only from black merchants, networking in an inbred fashion still.

No, I am not saying that ALL blacks feel that way. But we’d recognize that the Reverend Wright congregation is yet the largest and most powerful in that sector of Chicago where Oprah was an active member as well.

Where I grew up, our school was not segregated though the minorities were truly a minority, but we were all friends with each other, growing up together. We made friends with the kids in our classes; people attended their neighborhood schools, and there were ethnic neighborhoods where whites were the token minority in a predominately brown or black population of students. Before the riots, people got well enough along with their own friends, and no one was abused for being “out of place” visiting an ethnic neighborhood where there was a lot of tiny enterprise, like seamstresses working from their homes, bakers, enchilada tamale makers, tiny little restaurants, florists, or family farmers, back around 1960s in Maricopa County before the snowbirds moved in.

maverick muse on May 24, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Colon Bowell endorsed Obama. What more does one need to know? There is nothing more to say. McCain is about as mushy moderate, limp and flaccid as one can get without looking at a picture of Pelosi in a thong.

Geochelone on May 24, 2009 at 10:09 PM

In the “great Free State of Maryland” and now a liberal bastion if there ever was one, as I boy I remember colored only water fountains & restrooms and the beaches on the way to the Chesapeake Bay all had signs, “Gentiles only!” Who was in power during these times: Democrats of course. Hypocracy abounds with race and party alike. Bigots all Powell and company.

wepeople on May 24, 2009 at 10:25 PM

I think a GOP candidate with a libertarian streak of self-reliance akin to what Goldwater and Reagan conveyed would do well against a Dem opponent by highlighting the creeping statism that their party is pushing.

dedalus on May 24, 2009 at 8:05 PM

Dedalus: You are describing Sarah Palin to a T.

onlineanalyst on May 24, 2009 at 10:28 PM

dedalus on May 24, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Yeah, but the question had to do with how conservatives of today would view Eisenhower. That’s as meaningless as asking how Babe Ruth would hit modern-day pitching. Impossible to say for sure. Different people, different eras.

ddrintn on May 24, 2009 at 10:30 PM

I wonder if someone who is a Democrat and who believes in trickle-down economics, is strong on national security and doesn’t believe the government can solve social and economic problems would be considered a “DINO”?

Personally, I don’t believe they exist-haven’t seen any.

Point is, what I’ve described is what I view as a Republican and the good General doesn’t fit that description.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 24, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Rush and talk radio are the real media. They are the real journalists!

JellyToast on May 24, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Well, that and the various UK media outlets. The MSM here (apart from Fox, for the most part) just can’t be trusted at all anymore. Pravda was harder on the Communists than MSM is on Obama and the Democrats.

ddrintn on May 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Doesn’t Powell understand how idiot he sounds? He’s in a logical hole, and yet he digs.

As I was out mowing the back 20, I pondered the headline and Colon’s puffy, stupid face, and I could only come up with three scenarios for Puffy’s support of an inexperienced nitwit leftist vis a vis his self-righteous blather about being a “Republican”.

1. He’s actually a liberal, but was hiding it like a champ for the past thirty years, while voting for Reagan (2), Bush 41* (2), and Bush 43* (2) (* liberals, both).

Not likely.

2. He means what he says, and while advocating for more moderate voices in the GOP he decided that a highly partisan, leftist Democrat with a noticeably disdain for the American military and no experience in his entire life at running anything was “more qualified” to run the country and two war fronts than his “long-time friend” and contemporary, with his multi-generational history and legendary personal story in the American military, his clearly moderate record on a number of high profile domestic issues, and his decades of experience in the House and Senate.

If this is true, of course, then he’s either stupid, senile, or otherwise incapacitated, mentally.

Or,

3. He simply found the possibility of a black President of any kind, any quality, or any qualifications, too compelling an opportunity for “history” or whatever to pass up, and so he voted for Obama to be President of the United States because of the color of his skin, and not the content of his character.

Ahem. Oh, the irony of it!

Jaibones on May 24, 2009 at 10:43 PM

(how idiot he sounds?)(oh, never mind)

Jaibones on May 24, 2009 at 10:44 PM

3. He simply found the possibility of a black President of any kind, any quality, or any qualifications, too compelling an opportunity for “history” or whatever to pass up, and so he voted for Obama to be President of the United States because of the color of his skin, and not the content of his character.

Ahem. Oh, the irony of it!

Jaibones on May 24, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Actually, though, I can understand that motivation among blacks of good will in this country. What I object to is the absolute indignation when someone mentions that as the motive for voting for Obama. It’s racist to assume the obvious.

ddrintn on May 24, 2009 at 10:52 PM

General Powell is an Obama confidant, how does that wash with being a member of the GOP? I think it’s time to dump the GOP. They want all of us conservatives to sit down and shut up, while they drive the party back to the left.

Conservatives don’t have a voice in the GOP. Every candidate for president since Reagan has been a moderate. The GOP as currently fashioned is a smaller than the Dems, but still, big government party. It’s time for conservatives to leave, and start our own party.

Kjeil on May 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM

The GOP as currently fashioned is a smaller than the Dems, but still, big government party. It’s time for conservatives to leave, and start our own party.

Kjeil on May 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM

The problem with that is that it just guarantees Democrat victories as far as the eye can see.

ddrintn on May 24, 2009 at 11:09 PM

I respect his service to his country and his character, but Powell voted for skin color, just like the rest of the 96% of African-Americans.

Star20 on May 24, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Coastal Paradise on May 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Well coastal, I grew up as an army brat through the 70′s. Bases in Michigan, Texas, Arizona, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Germany (twice). My memories involve kids who were Mexican, African, Puerto Rican, Japanese, German, whatever. Somehow…it never mattered to us. So as an adult I find myself continually asking…WTF?@!?!?!?!?

I understand that it might exist in our grandparents and sadly our parents….but people in their 40′s???? I have yet to experience any form of criticism based on someones skin color from anyone less than 60 yrs old (unless the person complaining happens to have black or brown skin). But then I live in Kalifornia…..

Fighton03 on May 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM

Peter Principle + Affirmative Action = Colin Powell.

BowHuntingTexas on May 24, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Actually, though, I can understand that motivation among blacks of good will in this country. What I object to is the absolute indignation when someone mentions that as the motive for voting for Obama. It’s racist to assume the obvious.

ddrintn on May 24, 2009 at 10:52 PM

I agree that this is undoubtedly his mindset, and that he simply cannot abide the irony of the last quote. Blacks, by their “race is everything” minority identity, have made Martin Luther King’s glorious goal unattainable.

You cannot have it both ways. If race is everything, then the content of our character is irrelevent, a coincidence. And in this instance, I suggest that the content of Obama’s character is scheiste.

Jaibones on May 24, 2009 at 11:18 PM

So, the way to “build” the party is to endorse the nominee of the other party, the socialist nominee? Powell claims to have voted Republican for the past 50 years, which means he would have voted for Nixon and Goldwater, as well as Reagan and the Bushes, BUT he couldn’t bring himself to vote for his good friend, John McCain. Even Republican-leaning moderates are going to find all of that very, very hard to believe. No doubt they will also be very, very confused about what kind of nominee the GOP could field that would win back Powell’s endorsement. I, for one, would like to hear Powell give a few names that he could support over Obama — my gut tells me he can’t. If this guy is a Republican, I’m a Martian. General, take me to your leader!

littleguy on May 24, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Powell. . . .Digging himself a bigger liberal hole with every interview.

Rode the coat tales of the republicans to the point
of SOS. Backed Obama in the election. Now says he’s
really a republican. Errrr A new republican.
The chalkboard and fingers type.

Texyank on May 24, 2009 at 11:46 PM

It’s time for conservatives to leave, and start our own party.

Silly talk. This would guarantee Democrat Party governments forever. It would be better and easier for conservatives to take back the GOP.

Basilsbest on May 24, 2009 at 11:46 PM

Powell, Ridge, Newt all had their shot at leadership, all 3 crashed & burned, and couldn’t get elected to high office today, even with a pocket full of miracles! Now, with deflated self worth, they’re reduced to being played and pumped-up by the leftist media. Has beens, enlisted to toss manure on any genuine conservative awakening.

The long-term future and economic salvation of the teetering USA is not to the left. Yes, the statists will try to sink us all, but we, the producers, are close enough now to sense that we need a radical course correction to keep us off the rocks. The Republican left, and its handmaidens like Newt, offer us more of what brought us into this hazardous condition. TeaParty Time! Am I being to shrill?

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on May 24, 2009 at 11:50 PM

Fun Time at EIB tomorrow? Not likely. Probably a fill in host with Rush on the back Nine. 100 Million buys you that luxury.

I watched Colin Powell and Gary Sinise on the Memorial Day Celebration on PBS Tonight. Didn’t catch Rush there.

AYNBLAND on May 25, 2009 at 12:02 AM

I watched Colin Powell and Gary Sinise on the Memorial Day Celebration on PBS Tonight. Didn’t catch Rush there. AYNBLAND on May 25, 2009 at 12:02 AM

Well, how Patriotic of you BLAND! I went to the VFW Hall and got a beerbuzz on with a cadre of Vets, who shared stories about their buddies. As for elRushbo, you can bet many Vets saluted him tonight too!

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on May 25, 2009 at 12:15 AM

Congratulations, Gen. Powell. Through your tireless efforts your opinions have become as relevant to me as Meghan McCain’s.

Y-not on May 25, 2009 at 12:27 AM

Sometime in the future, the historians of the day (and that is assuming the earth hasn’t degenerated into a spherical Islamo-fascist wasteland) will be digging around looking for the things that ultimately brought about the demise of the greatest nation that ever existed.

I believe there will be two things that will figure prominently in their findings:

1) Will be a piece of legislation that was actually a constitutional amendment.

2) Will be a person’s name.

The constitutional amendment I am referring to will be the 16th.

The name will be that of Barack Hussein Obama’s.

Colin Powell turned his back on his supposed party and endorsed Obama for POTUS.

At the end of the day, whether it was done for racial reasons, or some other reason, it really doesn’t matter, as I believe Obama is doing so much damage to this nation so rapidly that we are probably going to lose our status as the preeminent world power before he leaves office, and could very well lose far more than that.

Colin Powell has no business in the Republican Party, and neither do a whole lot of other people, particularly those who support any part of the Obama agenda.

Obama is hell bent on bringing about a for-real “post American” world. No sane, right-thinking American who truly believes in freedom and liberty should want to have any part in that.

Dave R. on May 25, 2009 at 12:50 AM

Yes, I’m still a Republican

Now Colin, I thought we weren’t supposed to label people.

Knave, standeth not between me and mine throne!

Bet you kept the five-gallon flush models for yourself.
Silence! Guards!

Rush needs to get Paul Shanklin on this.

Feedie on May 25, 2009 at 12:57 AM

Powell is a hypocrite… He left the GOP & endorsed Obama because he couldn’t tolerate Palin’s conservative views. Now he’s out parading around talking big GOP tent, something he didn’t practice last Nov. when he had the chance.

RaisinsofWrath on May 25, 2009 at 1:00 AM

Okay. Just so I’m clear on this. We now define Republican Moderates as those who endorse voting for a Democrat candidate over a Moderate Republican candidate or those who become a Democrat when things don’t go their way. Is this right, AllahPundit? Just so I understanding the GOP’s new winning strategy and what my voting affiliation entails. Oh, yeah and former VP Cheney and Rush are the shrill ones per the Moderate Republican Ridge. Am I missing anything.

BWAHAHAHA!!!!! Classic!

Sultry Beauty on May 25, 2009 at 1:08 AM

I don’t really understand why Powell is even talking about this issue, given his switch to Dems in the election.

Other than ego, that is.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 1:52 AM

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 24, 2009 at 10:35 PM

DINOs went extinct years ago. The closest living relative is Joe Lieberman who isn’t technically a democrat anymore and even before that, his stand on baby killing alone, not to mention his voting record, made it impossible for him to ever be a democrat in name only. In fact, his endorsement of McCain for President proved McCain to be more of a RINO than Lieberman a DINO.

Dollayo on May 25, 2009 at 1:53 AM

Powell to Rush and Cheney: Yes, I’m still a Republican</blockquote

BULLSHIT POWELL…ONLY IN YOUR DREAMS!

byteshredder on May 25, 2009 at 1:55 AM

In spite of the messenger, I do agree with Powell that inclusion is needed.

What’s interesting is that I disagree with him on what issues are problematic. I think it’s the social issues, not NSA.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 1:59 AM

You know, the more I think about it, the odder this story gets. I wonder if Powell has some compulsion to betray.

There’s a strange theme in his life.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 2:07 AM

In spite of the messenger, I do agree with Powell that inclusion is needed.

What’s interesting is that I disagree with him on what issues are problematic. I think it’s the social issues, not NSA.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 1:59 AM

FFS. This has been gone over. There IS inclusion in the GOP. Anyone can join, anyone is welcome if you agree with at least some of the ideals of the party and not be a freaking idiot like Powell and McCain jr, insisting that the GOP change it’s core values from CONSERVATISM to something left of center.

If that’s what you want for the GOP, then obviously you won’t be welcomed. Then go off screaming about the lack of inclusion.

When will the retards get it already?

Spiritk9 on May 25, 2009 at 2:18 AM

Colin Powell: Not the Man You Think:

As an Army officer, Powell’s superiors considered him a consummate “team player.” They could count on Powell to haul their water despite any contradictory feelings he may have had. Powell’s blind loyalty was demonstrated during a second tour in Vietnam (1968-1969), where as deputy assistant chief of staff for operations G-3 at Americal Division headquarters in Chu Lai, he was asked to handle a potentially embarrassing letter a young soldier had written to Gen. Creighton Abrams, commander of all U.S. forces in Vietnam.

The soldier had written about rumors of a massacre that Americal Division soldiers had committed in the hamlet of My Lai 4 in South Vietnam. Although he did not mention My Lai in the letter, the soldier complained that Americal soldiers were indiscriminately killing Vietnamese civilians. Such acts, the young soldier warned, “are carried on at entire unit levels and thereby acquire the aspect of sanctioned policy.”

Several days after he received a copy of the letter, Powell sent a memo to his superior, the adjutant general, making the outrageous claim that the young soldier had not given enough specifics upon which to base an inquiry. The purposely blind Powell said the soldier’s charges were false except for “isolated instances.” He wrote that “relations between American soldiers and the Vietnamese are excellent.” Powell’s damage control efforts soon proved fruitless and the My Lai massacre burst onto the world stage like an atomic explosion, severely damaging the U.S. war effort in Vietnam. On the orders of Lt. William Calley, soldiers from the U.S. Army Americal Division had indeed indiscriminantly gunned down an entire village of men, women and children.

Although Powell’s attempt to cover up the massacre was unsuccessful, he had at least proven his willingness to do what was necessary to please his bosses. For his two tours of duty in Vietnam, Powell, who was never exposed to serious combat, was awarded the Purple Heart for a minor foot wound he received after stepping on a “punji stick.” He was later awarded a Bronze Star for heroism and the Soldiers Medal for pulling two men free from a non-combat related helicopter crash.
- Tom Ashworth and Ted Sampley, U.S, Veteran Dispatch, October/November, 1995 Issue

MB4 on May 25, 2009 at 2:21 AM

Well, why should we listen to Colin Powell?

It is philosophically and intellectually impossible to both embrace fiscal conservatism — let alone social conservatism — and endorse Barack Obama. Endorsing Obama is the most informative thing Powell has done, politically, and what it means is that his definition of a Republican is different from mine.

It always interests me that self-described “moderates” paint a picture of Rush-addled ultra-conservatives being in a shrill minority that no one else likes or wants to play with, and yet somehow torpedoing “moderates” whom everyone except those terrible ultra-cons loves to death.

If the evil ultra-cons are in such a tiny minority, and everyone else is so enamored of “moderate” candidates, why don’t the “moderate” Republicans get more votes? Why don’t they win all the elections, if they’re so popular and attractive to “independents,” “moderates,” “centrists,” Democrats, and, like, everyone on the whole planet except the Dittoheads?

The logic looks elusive from here. In fact, it looks an awful lot like a comfortable, reflexive alibi.

J.E. Dyer on May 25, 2009 at 2:34 AM

Colin Powell was, and remains, the consummate “Brown nose” who is attracted to men in power. If it had looked like McCain would win the election I doubt very much that Powell would have endorsed Obama. He might well have voted for him but I doubt that he would have publicly endorsed him.

MB4 on May 25, 2009 at 2:39 AM

When will the retards get it already?

Don’t worry too much. I’m definitely not Republican. I’m certainly not going to jump from Democrat to Republican when the tone is what you express.

I moved to Independent.

But I most definitely am not going to line up behind whatever it is you’re selling.

That’s a promise. So relax.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 3:14 AM

“In the weeks leading up to war with Iraq, Collin Powell’s State Department negotiated with Ankara’s parliament for permission to use Turkish territory to launch 62,000 US troops against Iraq. Despite being authorized to deliver millions in US aid, Powell failed to secure a “northern front” for the Coalition forces. This left the most advanced division in the U.S. Army stuck in Texas and over 14,000 pieces of equipment, including the latest M1-A2 Abrams battle tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles and Apache attack helicopters on ships in the Mediterranean Sea. Additionally, this division boasted the Army’s most sophisticated computer systems, allowing for the first time in actual battle, the linking of all vehicles, tracking both each other and the enemy on the battlefield.
It wasn’t until almost a month later that the 4th ID finally joined the war effort after having been re-routed through Kuwait, arriving too late to be part of the initial attack. With the advance of American troops into the Sunni Triangle and the last vestiges of Iraqi resistance thought to be crumbling, it was not clear whether the 4th would see any action or take more of a stabilization role. The 4th ID had initially been a key part of the American war plan, to invade Iraq from the north through Turkey as the 3rd Infantry Division invaded south from Kuwait.
It is now understood that many troops loyal to Saddam abandoned their posts and uniforms and took up arms against Coalition forces when they reached the outskirts of Baghdad. Had there been a simultaneous push down from the North, as originally planned, the al Queda uprising and Sunni Insurgency may never have come to pass and many of those who perpetrated terror in post-invasion Iraq would have been captured or killed at that time.
It can be said with a fair amount of certainty that, had Collin Powell succeeded diplomatically with the Turks, a lot of Americans and Iraqis would be alive today.
Powell failed, the liberation of Iraq got bogged down in a near Civil War, President Bush and Republicans were harmed politically and now he presumes to lecture Conservatives as to whom they should listen to.” Screw him.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on May 25, 2009 at 3:21 AM

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on May 25, 2009 at 3:21 AM

Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres,
She hasn’t been kissed in forty years,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
She had the form like the back of a hack,
When she cried the tears ran down her back,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
She never could hold the love of man
‘Cause she took her baths in a talcum can,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
She had four chins, her knees would knock,
And her face would stop a cuckoo clock,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
She could beg a franc, a drink, a meal,
But it wasn’t because of sex appeal,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
She could guzzle a barrel of sour wine,
And eat a hog without peeling the rind,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

The MPS think they won the war, Parley-voo.
The MPS think they won the war, Parley-voo.
The MPS think they won the war,
Standing guard at the café door,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

The officers get the pie and cake, Parley-voo.
The officers get the pie and cake, Parley-voo.
The officers get the pie and cake,
And all we get is the bellyache,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

The sergeant ought to take a bath, Parley-voo.
The sergeant ought to take a bath, Parley-voo.
If he changes his underwear
The frogs will give him the Croix-de-Guerre,
Hinky-dinky, parley-voo.

You might forget the gas and shells, Parley-voo.
You might forget the gas and shells, Parley-voo.
You might forget the groans and yells
But you’ll never forget the mademoiselles,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Just blow your nose, and dry your tears,
We’ll all be back in a few short years,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

Murphy9 on May 25, 2009 at 3:27 AM

I don’t get it, Murphy.

At all.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 3:41 AM

I don’t get it, Murphy.

At all.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 3:41 AM

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on May 25, 2009 at 3:21 AM

Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

Murphy9 on May 25, 2009 at 3:45 AM

Powell is a hypocrite… He left the GOP & endorsed Obama because he couldn’t tolerate Palin’s conservative views. Now he’s out parading around talking big GOP tent, something he didn’t practice last Nov. when he had the chance.

RaisinsofWrath on May 25, 2009 at 1:00 AM

So True. I never really thought about it quite this way. Powell was trying to kick Palin out of our tent. I Love Sarah.

And now Colon is a titular head on a Rino’s butt.

Geochelone on May 25, 2009 at 3:51 AM

Let the “Law of Unintended Consequences” begin………

………. welcome to the game, General Powell.

Seven Percent Solution on May 25, 2009 at 3:58 AM

I still don’t get this long poem at all.

Hinky Dinky?

Whatever. The poem doesn’t communicate any real message.

Hope it gave the author pleasure. That’s about all it’s worth.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 4:00 AM

>}(:@~*

Seven Percent Solution on May 25, 2009 at 4:01 AM

You know, I just think Powell may be acting out something bigger than him.

He has a knack for betrayal.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 4:01 AM

Whatever. The poem doesn’t communicate any real message.

Hope it gave the author pleasure. That’s about all it’s worth.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 4:00 AM

It gave meaning and pleasure to millions of men during the Great War.

Priceless.

Murphy9 on May 25, 2009 at 4:05 AM

Didn’t Powell vote for Obama?

sabbott on May 25, 2009 at 6:21 AM

Powell is just keeping his Republican “credentials” so that his new leader can claim bipartisan appeal. Look for it in coming ads near you (2012),

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2009 at 6:58 AM

Reiterating his support for closing down the terrorist detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Powell said Cheney’s opposition was an affront to Obama’s predecessor as well.

“Mr. Cheney is not only disagreeing with President Obama’s policy, he’s disagreeing with President Bush’s policy,” Powell said.

And, citing Cheney’s suggestion in a speech last week that President Obama only wanted to close Guantanamo to make Europeans happy, Powell said, “No, we’re doing it to reassure Europeans, Muslims, Arabs, all the people around the world, that we’re a nation of law.”

Lending credence to Democrats argument that moving the Gitmo detainees to American soil would not put the country in danger, Powell said he was “not terribly worried about one of these guys going to a super lock-up.”

PATHETIC PRESUMPTIVE POWELL POSTRATION

Colin took his marbles and went home long before the Bush presidency completed tenure. On WHAT authority does Powell trump Cheney on Bush’s determinations regarding Guantanamo Bay since Condi Rice is the authority on what Colin is feigning for himself.

Colin has an insulated life not to be the target of terrorists, painting himself AS IF Mr. Nice Good Guy, and his indifference to importing jihadist terrorism into homegrown prisoners to spew onto Americans is reprehensible.

Colin Powell wants us all to hate ourselves, and has joined Obama and Rev. Wright’s premise.

PLEASE put up a thread for Memorial Day so that we can focus on the millions of Americans who served to protect our Constitution rather than their own political agendas.

God Save the Right,
and have mercy on America.

maverick muse on May 25, 2009 at 7:41 AM

I still don’t get this long poem at all.

Hinky Dinky?

Whatever. The poem doesn’t communicate any real message.

Hope it gave the author pleasure. That’s about all it’s worth.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 4:00 AM

It’s the words to a song the US troops sang in World War I. American soldier meets French mademoiselle.

If singing it, or any other soldiers’ song (“John Brown’s Body” ring a bell?) for a moment lifted a soldier’s spirits, then it had had worth.

Wethal on May 25, 2009 at 7:56 AM

I would safely bet that Tom Ridge has never listened to Rush’s show.

mankai on May 25, 2009 at 8:09 AM

Dear goopers, you never cease to amaze me. Ridge and Powell critique your party and you cry like little babies. I guess in “the new gop” no one is allowed to evah critique. Kind of like the old Soviet Union.At least your being true to your dogma, everyone shall follow a strict litmus test, if anyone fails to do this, they risk being scorned at Hotair and going to bed without their supper. I guess Ridge will have to be thrown under the bus too, actually talking bad about the great and powerful Oz(RUSH)No one is allowed to pull back the curtain on the wise and powerful Rush. Ridge needs to go on bended knees and beg Rush for forgiveness. When does John Cornyn get thrown under the bus for backing Crist over Rubio? Cornyn couldn’t even wait for the gooper primary? Will you “keepers of the flame” let him get away with it? How about Newt? He went off the reservation somewhat on MTP, will he get thrown under the bus too? So many (perceived) enemies, so little time to fight them all. I just love me some smell of shrinking gop in the morning. Oh, by the way, prepare thy self to lose a few senate seats in 2010. And please, continue to be shrill, its working out so well for your side.

athensboy on May 25, 2009 at 9:04 AM

athensboy on May 25, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Which is why the RNC is outraising the DNC…

Wethal on May 25, 2009 at 9:07 AM

Powell critique your party and you cry like little babies.

Powell isn’t a conservative, indeed by his actions he isn’t even a Republicain.

Why should I give a rip what he thinks?

gdonovan on May 25, 2009 at 9:11 AM

athensboy on May 25, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Ridge hasn’t held elective office for years. Ridge backed out of running for senate in 2010. DId he have an idea of what the PA GOP (it’s a closed primary) would think of him?

If you look up at the new Headlines thread, the PA GOP is now likely to back Pat Toomey for senate in 2010. Low taxes. Small government. Part of the GOP core principles, to which Powell does not ascribe. But Toomey does. So does Rubio in FL.

By the way, the FL GOP is now backing away from supporting Crist in the primary, too, and will stay neutral. Cornyn has yet to weigh in on whether the NRSC will back off. In PA Cornyn has the choice of Toomey or letting Arlen win.

Wethal on May 25, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Pardon the tread hi-jax
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Q. Why did New North Jersey get all the toxic dumps and New York all the lawyers?
A. New North Jersey won the toss.
Wethal on May 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Fixed it for ya
The difference between residents of North Jersey and South Jersey is the North Jersey folks say they are from New Jersey and the South Jersey folks say they are from South Jersey. Fact – the ten southern-most counties of NJ voted overwhelmingly in 1976 to secede from New Jersey. But it was a non-binding referendum so it didn’t stick.
CatchAll on May 24, 2009 at 9:33 PM

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http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/npl/nj.htm

Looks like a close race on toxic sites so far as I can see. We here in the glorious Socialist State of New Jersey have more than enough lawyers and poisoned ground water to go around.
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As for the bold part, N v S… Nonsense. People from Jersey say we are from JERSEY. The others are NYC or Phila. transplants, or illegals.
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And as for the secession vote, that was over the state’s de facto taking control of large tracts of land under the pinelands moratorium act, and a disparity in funding for projects big and small (you know, confiscation and taxation without reciprocation).
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Either way, Powell has a lot of nerve… IMHO.
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RalphyBoy on May 25, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Powell and Ridge and McCain and others like them are the reason that I will abandon the GOP on national elections. I will not compromise my principles to vote for another GOP candidate that does not subscribe to conservative principles.

I did it for the last time in 2008 and we see what it got us. Never again.

Hogeye13 on May 25, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Colin Powell can say whatever he wants, but he is not a Republican and Ridge is RINO. The country club libs are killing us, because they MUDDY THE GOP IDENTITY.

Powell supported and voted for Hussein because of his RACE. Obviously Hussein is not a Republican. He’s a devout SOCIALIST. Therefore Powell is too.

dogsoldier on May 25, 2009 at 9:31 AM

“When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck.”

Indiana poet James Whitcomb Riley (1849–1916)

Uniblogger on May 25, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Sure, CNN, MSNBC, et al are leading with this story. They want the Democratic Party to be in power forever. If the Beltway Elite “Moderate” “Republicans” control the party, the Democrats will never lose.

kingsjester on May 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM

To all those whining about how the GOP should be a bigger tent, how we shouldn’t throw moderates under the bus, how we can’t win without moderates & Independents – aren’t the moderates doing the exact same thing to Conservatives?

Moderates want the Conservatives to STFU and be quiet. All Moderates want from Conservatives is financial support and their votes. Conservatives are supposed to stop thinking their positions are important because they make some moderates uncomfortable. Moderates want Conservatives to be more pro choice, more anti-gun, and more big government.

You almost wonder why those moderates aren’t harping at the Dem Party. Why shouldn’t the Dems move toward the center more? Why should the GOP move to the Left to fill the void at the center at the price of principle? What good is it for Republicans to win election if they are no different than Dem-lite?

katiejane on May 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Although Powell’s attempt to cover up the massacre was unsuccessful, he had at least proven his willingness to do what was necessary to please his bosses. For his two tours of duty in Vietnam, Powell, who was never exposed to serious combat, was awarded the Purple Heart for a minor foot wound he received after stepping on a “punji stick.” He was later awarded a Bronze Star for heroism and the Soldiers Medal for pulling two men free from a non-combat related helicopter crash.
- Tom Ashworth and Ted Sampley, U.S, Veteran Dispatch, October/November, 1995 Issue

MB4 on May 25, 2009 at 2:21 AM

To cover real horror in Vietnam, Powell would lie.

To admit he was actually in on all of the intelligence that Bush knew prior to the attack on Hussein is more than Powell can muster.

To disrepute real honor, Powell would lie about Guantanamo.

To endanger Americans with the most subversive of all terrorists within our walls inside American prisons is Powell’s self damnation and national betrayal.

Powell wants to keep his Republican tag just so he can sabotage the party from within, to enact the massacre of American conservatives on Obama’s dime.

maverick muse on May 25, 2009 at 9:52 AM

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 4:00 AM

You don’t know much about our own cultural history.

You don’t have to “get it” all, but at least acknowledge what EVERYONE KNEW at one point.

When introduced to what was common knowledge based upon common experience, not legend, at least take it for what it was.

No one needs to judge the unknown as anything other than unknown. Relevance is another matter all together.

maverick muse on May 25, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Murphy9 on May 25, 2009 at 3:27 AM

Murphy, that sounded like a nursery rhyme to me when I was a kid too young to figure. Hadn’t heard it since, had no idea what it was about until you brought it up. How about that, WWI; live and learn. Thanks.

Is that the urtext, or did you update/revise it?

maverick muse on May 25, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Obama had to drag out a token Republican with enough stature to face off against Cheney since he is a hopeless beta male community organizer and couldn’t pull it off himself.

Only Dems could view someone who voted for a Dem for president as a Republican. Exactly which GOP positions does Powell support? Powell lost me for good when he didn’t man up and tell the truth about Armitage’s role in the Plame scandal (the first step was when he backed out of supporting the Iraqi resistence in the first Gulf War and left them to Saddam’s devices in the name of war planning purity).

inmypajamas on May 25, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Powell : doesnt vote republican, doesnt campaign for republicans, and doesnt support republican principles. He just works for them.

If youre a dem like say Richard Armitage, Colin plays CYA for him while people within the administration he apparently has no sense of loyalty to twist in the wind.

Ask not what your party can do for you, Colin, ask what you can do for your party. Because right now, it aint much.

Opportunity Costs on May 25, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Yeah a poster on another blog suggested Hussein sent Powell out to sow discord. We should just ignore them as the non entities they are.

dogsoldier on May 25, 2009 at 10:37 AM

It is fair enough to say that Rush is not above criticism. I have criticized Rush in continuing to attack McCain when McCain has compiled a conservative voting record in the Senate; it is an unhelpful distraction from what Rush is invaluable in doing — exposing Obama, the Democrats and the mainstream media for what they are. But it is another thing to say that we should overlook that Powell by his actions and words did leave the GOP. We don’t and can’t ocverlook that.

Dick Cheney probably was very unhappy to learn of Powell’s disloyalty in not telling Bush and Cheney that Armitage was Novak’s source and letting Bush and Cheney get piioried in the press about the “leak” about Valerie Plame.

John McCain has every right to be furious about Powell’s disloyalty in the last Presidential election in endorsing and voting for Obama and undercutting McCain’s real strength as the candidate who knew (and does know) foreign policy, military matters and national security.

Now, at a time of Obama is responsible for enlarged Government and multi-trillion deficits, Powell is supporting that Left wing agenda, and not limited Government, fiscal responsibility and persoanl responsibility, which is what Republicans believe in.

Powell is no Republican.

Phil Byler on May 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM

If the Republican Party includes people like Powell, then that explains why I’m an Independent.

WildBillK on May 25, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Powell to Rush and Cheney: Yes, I’m still a Republican

Did Powell’s nose grow when he lied like that?

Bicyea on May 25, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Gee, you guys better brush up on your doughboy songs.

And when they came home they sang: “How ya gonna keep ‘em down on the farm after they’ve seen Paree?”

Blake on May 25, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Colin knows about false flag ops.

Akzed on May 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM

I always enjoy these kind of statements.
The guy at the gym, after bragging about all the strippers he’s slept with, telling me he’s a good husband because he remembers his anniversary every year.
The young lady I once dated that told me sex with a stranger doesn’t count because you don’t actually care about them.

If you vote for a radical leftist, you’re not a Republican.

Lying to yourself is ok, if that’s what it takes to live with what you are. But please don’t try that sh*t with people smart enough to know better. Get bent, Mr. Powell.

austinnelly on May 25, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Time for another round of increasingly tedious GOP big tent/small tent navel-gazing

Two questions:
1. Why is it always the navel that gets gazed at when there are far more interesting things to see?
2. Has anybody asked Powell what he actually thinks a Republican is?

whitetop on May 25, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Didn’t Powell vote for Obama?

sabbott on May 25, 2009 at 6:21 AM

Publicly endorsed and presumably voted for. He has beclowned himself.

Jaibones on May 25, 2009 at 11:08 AM

With Powell, the debate is not even whether moderates are welcome in the GOP. Republicans simply don’t endorse far-left-wing Democrats over centrist Republicans, period. His endorsement of B.O. was so blatantly race-based that the retired general ought to be ashamed of himself. And if race is a deciding factor for you, then you’re definitely in the wrong party.

cackcon on May 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Two questions:
1. Why is it always the navel that gets gazed at when there are far more interesting things to see?
2. Has anybody asked Powell what he actually thinks a Republican is?

whitetop on May 25, 2009 at 11:01 AM

1. Your not supposed to just gaze at it but to dent it:

How to Good-bye Depression

2. Don’t know.

Blake on May 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Keeping a high profile R straw man is paramount for BO.

Hey Colon, how’s your son doing? You know, Mikey, the son you forced in as head of the FCC as a condition for taking SOS, the moron who wrecked the whole communications industry by being mesmerized with texting on his cell phone to the exclusion of all other responsibilities?

Sorry, by calling Mikey one, I didn’t mean to insult morons.

MarkT on May 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM

cackcon on May 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Amen. Over 90% of blacks voted for Obama. I wish Powell would “man up” and admit that he voted for Obama because he’s black, and that he didn’t want to be one of the lone black people who didn’t vote for a fellow black person in a historic election. Instead, Powell uses lame rhetoric (“big tent” BS) to justify his vote. Powell is McCain-lite.

Dagnar on May 25, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Rush is “too shrill”? I guess Ridge is just shrill enough?.

Akzed on May 25, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Powell is a front-running fraud, plain and simple. McCain is as moderate as they come in the GOP yet Powell threw him under the bus and voted for Obama. So his problem can’t be with just “radical conservatives”. What conservative values or principles does Powell hold? In this same interview he also said he voted for Jimmy Carter. That alone almost disqualifies every opinion he has.

Exit question: If both candidates were black who do you think Powell would have voted for?

titus_pullo on May 25, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Colin Powell is not a “moderate” and shouldn’t even be allowed to comment on the Republican Party after endorsing the biggest Socialist Democrat since FDR for President.

Instead, he is a left-wing kiss-ass, who never acknowledges that his rise to power was initiated by the nearest thing we have had to a conservative President in living memory: Ronald Reagan.

The best thing to do with Colin Powell is to ignore him like the rest of Democrat media he so adores.

Stepan on May 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Who cares what Powell says. He is not in our party. I can say I’m a far-left liberal democrat too. Doesn’t make it so.

Isn’t this the “moderate” who endorsed the far-left liberal over the actual moderate in the last POTUS election? Just checking to make sure I get my facts correct.

matthew26 on May 25, 2009 at 12:00 PM

When I watch that Powell interview, what I see is a guy who was once well-respected who is beginning to realize he endorsed a train wreck of a president and he’s trying to mop up his reputation. The moderate/conservative Republican narrative is a convenient story for him — and others like him — who are beginning to fear that a few years down the road they’re going to need an explanation for why in the hell they ever endorsed this guy. Powell’s “I’m a Republican” statement actually means “I think the democrats are heading south in a big way” and I want to minimize my collateral damage.

Rational Thought on May 25, 2009 at 12:14 PM

It gave meaning and pleasure to millions of men during the Great War. Priceless.
Murphy9 on May 25, 2009 at 4:05 AM

If singing it, or any other soldiers’ song (”John Brown’s Body” ring a bell?) for a moment lifted a soldier’s spirits, then it had had worth.
Wethal on May 25, 2009 at 7:56 AM

Sometimes, the silliest things can lift a person’s spirits. And sometimes, all a person has left is their spirit.

This is Memorial Day. Try not to forget.

John Brown’s Song was an inspirational marching song of Federal soldiers during the Civil War, which in different ways, is still happening in our country, as can be seen in this thread. Soldiers might sing this song off and on for hours, making up lyrics as they marched along. It had so many different versions,I can’t cite a correct version of the lyrics. Here’s a decent and brief performance.

We’re fighting a different kind of slavery today.

Is that the urtext, or did you update/revise it?
maverick muse on May 25, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Original text.

Ancient sound recording.

Loxodonta on May 25, 2009 at 1:06 PM

The careerists must be replaced if we are to take our country back.

The beltway elites are a bunch of pandering low lifes impressed only with themselves and corrupted to the core.
Citizens must lead and elect an army of fellow citizens with experience in the real world to replace the current ruling class else the media and beltway carreerists will forever Lord over us like kings over serfs.

Virtually all incumbants should be replaced by citizens and TERM LIMITS forced upon the politicians so that they can never again consilidate their power in D.C. and the liberal Northeast wilst ignoring the wishes of the vast majority of everyday citizens.

Obama may be the disaster needed to wake the sleeping giant and Sarah may be the reformer needed to lead us out of our serfdom, out of our shackles and chains.

Powell, McCain shameless panderers living off the very few honorable years they had in service to this country, but now arrogant, ignorant elitists presuming to tell the citizenry what is good for them, begone your best days are far, far benind you.

dhunter on May 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Rush and talk radio are the real media. They are the real journalists!

JellyToast on May 24, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Beam us up, Scotty, no intelligent life here.

trailboss on May 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Rush is “too shrill”? I guess Ridge is just shrill enough?.

Akzed on May 25, 2009 at 11:34 AM

LOL

maverick muse on May 25, 2009 at 1:45 PM

I did agree with Powell on the GITMO issue, in that Obama has still failed to offer a real plan on what he intends to do with the remaining people there.

AnninCA on May 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Loxodonta on May 25, 2009 at 1:06 PM

My Grampa with his wonderful baritone voice sang that with Gramma accompanying him at the piano when I was knee high.

How about that for memories from yesteryear.

maverick muse on May 25, 2009 at 1:50 PM

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