Obama: Hey, we’re out of money
posted at 12:12 pm on May 23, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Via Breitbart, an important newsflash from The One in case you hadn’t heard that we’re running trillion-dollar deficits these days. See if you can balance the nuance of his point about Medicaid and Medicare being completely unsustainable long-term with his burning desire to nationalize most of the country’s heath-care industry.
Update: Drudge has a transcript.
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I give her a 36. The letter grades don’t come close to detailing her cluelessness.
progressoverpeace on May 23, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Well, duh.
They both did. They wanted the same thing, nationalization of hospitals. Free health care. Hillary was just trying to sound more moderate on it.
It is the socialization of medical treatment that shut those hospitals down. Expect more closings under Obama.
Count to 10 on May 23, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Fine with me. I really don’t even really even get snark attackers.
It’s just so crude, I guess, to me.
But you should post and have fun. And do so without a cinch of guilt, since I would never let someone like you have a smidge of power over my own reactions.
So enjoy and feel potent.
I suspect this is where you get to experience this. :)
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 1:47 PM
I don’t think you grasp how much Democrats HATE the small businessman.
Rae on May 23, 2009 at 1:47 PM
That’s right. No discussion with a person who screams “the only way to fix the economy is socialized medicine” and then says that the Constitution requires us to pay for everyone’s healthcare. You have exposed yourself fully today as just another Axelrod mouthpiece. Your claims that you voted for McCain are nothing more than a ruse.
And then further digs a hole by claiming Hillary care is the only answer from someone who obviously has no idea how bad her plan was. If it was so great, why did it fail so miserably?
Knucklehead on May 23, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I’m to scared to go to HuffPo to see what thier take is on that……interview?
heshtesh on May 23, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Bambi can’t be out of money. There’s always next month’s welfare check taken from The Man supposed to magically appear in the mail box.
viking01 on May 23, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Maybe I’ve missed something here. When I read the Costitution I got the idea the government had certain responsibilities:
1) Establish justice (enforce the law)
2) Ensure domestic tranquility
3) Provide for the common defense
4) Promote the general welfare (didn’t read that as welfare to those who don’t work or healthcare from cradle to grave)
5) Secure the blessings of liberty (keep the government out of our lives)
I don’t see universal healthcare or trying to save the planet in there anywhere. I’m sure someone can enlighten me. Ann???
Les in NC on May 23, 2009 at 1:51 PM
OK, but we’ve had 7 major medical centers close in LA. It’s so not due to anything but private insurance issues.
But if you need to see more, I’m personally game.
I’ve decided that’s what it will take. You’re going to have to step over dying people on the sidewalk to change.
In the meantime, you really think your insurance police protects you like crazy.
I am guessing that you’re in denial big-time.
JUST a guess. You could really have a great policy.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Its a matter of reestablishing the fetters on government. It seems to be entropic in nature, with those limitations only established at the outset, and eroding over time.
Count to 10 on May 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Hey Ann. You there?
Is this a summer gig for you? When was your last class?
How long have you been commenting at HA? Seems only the last couple of weeks.
And now you’re here everyday, all day.
But the last open registration was a few months ago. Where you not interested in politics after registering? Is that why you waited to get involved here?
You mention Kos and HuffPo often. You sound familiar with those sites.
What screenname do you use there? You must have encountered lots of people there that were pro-Obama. I’m sure you couldn’t control yourself since you are supposedly so anti-Obama.
As a friend of yours, I’d like to read your postings at other sites, because I don’t want to misunderstand you.
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM
“With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.”
– James Madison
progressoverpeace on May 23, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Yes. In the long run, emergency treatments are far more expensive than preventative care. The issue is how to provide for preventative care. First, we’re out of money, so that cannot be ignored. Every dollar spent today for preventive care must be saved elsewhere, today. Second, if we remove all negative consequences for poor decision making, how does that improve decision making skills?
Compassion doesn’t work without pragmatism and personal responsibility. We need all three in play for any effective solutions to our health care problems.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:53 PM
P.S. Those of you thinking you’ve got “great” policies?”
You better rethink.
You make a claim, and your “great private provider” declines, you have no out.
Good luck.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 1:53 PM
“Private insurance issues” basically means “government interference issues”.
Count to 10 on May 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I’ll have to give an F as well, unless she can answer the question I’ve posed directly several times before, including once in this thread:
‘Ann, have you ever lived under a nationalized healthcare system?’
A simple answer to that might raise her grade to an F+.
DarkCurrent on May 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Nearly everything you’ve said here, the denial business, the India crap and stepping over dead bodies (why not children, the effect would have been better) you’ve said before.
It’s as if you’re taking info from a paper (7hospitals in LA) and pasting it here.
But have you run out of info?
Do you need to go back to your superiors and get some more ammo? Need to re-load Ann?
Have you shot your wad Dave?
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Except, you know, to pay for it yourself.
Count to 10 on May 23, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Well said.
progressoverpeace on May 23, 2009 at 1:55 PM
You’re home so much during the day Ann. Who pays for your healthcare?
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Great quote…thanks
Les in NC on May 23, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Probably you…..and me.
Knucklehead on May 23, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Ni hao DC. Long time. Hope u r good. Here, Ann is upset about problems in India. I assume she is Indian, although I didn’t know that was a popular Indian name.
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 1:57 PM
You’re welcome. It’s one of my favorites and shows how the Founders understood, full well, the deterioration that would naturally occur with time.
progressoverpeace on May 23, 2009 at 1:58 PM
OK, but we’ve had 7 major medical centers close in LA. It’s so not due to anything but private insurance issues.
But if you need to see more, I’m personally game.
I’ve decided that’s what it will take. You’re going to have to step over dying people on the sidewalk to change.
In the mean time, you really think your insurance police protects you like crazy.
I am guessing that you’re in denial big-time.
JUST a guess. You could really have a great policy.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Who uses hospitals for the medical care? Who are really uninsured in California? Oklahoma passed a law, guess what their emergency rooms are not crowded or over burdened anymore…legal immigrants people with green cards -visas don’t abuse the system, they can be deported if they do.
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2009/05/23/news/local/doc4a1444ee4a33f801955980.txt
Dr Evil on May 23, 2009 at 1:58 PM
If you want to participate in flame wars and be called a troll, post like this.
If you want to contribute to an honest discussion from a perspective that differs from most of us here, don’t post like this.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:59 PM
A very good and timely reminder. Thanks.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Sorry, AnninCA, I will always be able to trade gold for Medical Care, but your “Gimme for Free” won’t buy you a clean bandage.
Not only does she have no answers, but notice that the mask slipped and the “Totalitarian” peeked out.
GunRunner on May 23, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Every issue of Obama’s to fundamentally change the character of one of our American institutions is fought for by them here on the blogs. There’s no Ann. He/she/it is paid to infiltrate these conversations and press talking points, and steer the conversation towards pre-approved ends.
Today, private health insurance is the culprit that will kill us all if we don’t do what St. Barry says immediately.
Repudiate this Stasi agent of Obamas. It’s frightening how his secret police act as agents provocateurs to stir up dissent.
IMPEACH OBAMA. THE FAILED OBAMA ADMINISTRATION MUST BE STOPPED!!
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Soros.
Duh!
Wingo on May 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Is there any truth to the claim that medical procedures were significantly cheaper prior to substantial government regulation and policy intervention? I am looking around now, but I seem to remember hearing that surgery was something you used to be able to pay for out of pocket about 70-80 years ago. I’ll post back if I find something reliable…mostly because it completely derails this “government is the solution to healthcare” BS.
blankminde on May 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Well I’m off to a bar-b-que. Have a good holiday all and I’m sure most here know what we are celebrating/remembering. on a side note, progressoverpeace, I can’t post at work but enjoy your posts during the week.
Les in NC on May 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM
TALKING POINTS
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Honestly, here’s my political position.
I knew we elected a weak healthcare president.
I do not think Obama will get much passed in this arena.
I think it’s a terrible mistake on domestic policy.
But done is done.
He never was about this.
My personal opinion? Oh boy, you guys have missed the boat. It is the key factor holding back private business.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 2:03 PM
So you would help a dying person in India but you are okay with abortion? I guess i am okay with stepping over the dying person to save a baby.
akerralls on May 23, 2009 at 2:03 PM
My experience with freebies is that nobody values anything that they get free. We’re seeing this with 50% of taxpayers falling off income tax rolls.
If enough people aren’t paying for health in a system in which they are told by Obama that they have an entitlement to it, we will have a train wreck.
I hope the GOP’s largely free-market solutions are communiciated to voters.
AnninCA: the only thing I agree with you about is that I’d like to see health-care divorced from employment. It would help with portability. I disagree with your criticism with individual plans–there are few products because there’s no market. The GOP idea of providing a substantial credit to acquire insurance is a good idea. That would put employees and self-employeds on par. I don’t know if the GOP is requiring it, but I think I’d favor a national requirement to show proof of some level of catastrophic insurance. Why not? States have these for auto insurance. Sure, that involves liabiity to third parties, but what’s the difference if people go without insurance and expect taxpayers to pick up the tab when they show up in emergency rooms?
Problem paying? Cancel the cable service and sell off the plasma screen TV.
BuckeyeSam on May 23, 2009 at 2:04 PM
PISS OFF. SCRAM ANN. GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE.
I don’t care where you’re born, or what your passport says, but you aren’t American. You are an enemy, not for your opinions, but for your tactics.
YOU SLIMY, CONNIVING, JUDAS, WHORE.
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 2:04 PM
AnninCA,
I hope you understand that there is no functional difference between you demanding “Free” Medical Care for yourself and demanding your field be harvested for free. You still want someone to “Yasser Masser” and to do what you want rather than equitable trade.
GunRunner on May 23, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Whatever, guys……I’m glad you’re happy with your health insurance.
Good to know. Enjoy!
But please, don’t ever complain!
That would be totally obnoxious.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 2:05 PM
I’m good, thanks.
Ann should come see the awesomeness of our socialized healthcare system here in China. Almost as awesome as the socialized healthcare system I lived under in Japan, which is strange considering the wealth gap between the two countries. I guess socialization is the great equalizer.
DarkCurrent on May 23, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Scroll up roughly 20 minutes ago. It said this already.
THERE’S NO ANN. THIS IS A FAKE. IT’S SOMEBODY READING FROM A SCRIPT. SHE/IT/HE HAS TO WORK UNTIL A CERTAIN TIME, AND HAS NO MORE NEW INFO. SHE WILL DISAPPEAR SOON WHEN HER SUPERVISOR NOTICES HER DISTRESS.
ANN ISN’T THE FIRST HERE, AND SHE WON’T BE THE LAST.
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Wow, nearly as clueless as the socialist sock puppet in chief.
I wish I could look into the future using a high def big screen TV so I could video capture the look o n AnninCA’s face when heshe finally realizes how stupid heshe has been by using the neighbors dirty socks as hisher thinking apparatus, and it dawns on himher that zerobama is nothing but a carny huckster in a suit getting handjobs from people like Ayers and Wright for a little under the table cash…..meanwhile, we’ll be taking marching orders from China.
The picture would be priceless to have NOW, worthless when it actually happens.
Spiritk9 on May 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM
According to a recent report, the United States has $480 billion in excess spending each year in comparison to Western European nations that have universal health insurance coverage. The costs are mainly associated with excess administrative costs and poorer quality of care.14
In this new report MGI finds that the United States spends approximately $480 billion ($1,600 per capita) more on health care than other OECD countries and that additional spending is not explained by a higher disease burden; the research shows that the U.S. population is not significantly sicker than the other countries studied.
Instead, MGI found that the overriding cause of high U.S. health care costs is the failure of the intermediation system — payors, employers, and government — to provide sufficient incentives to patients and consumers to be value–conscious in their demand decisions, and to regulate the necessary incentives to promote rational use by providers and suppliers.
Using some of the same research that is being touted to push healthcare reform-Ive come to the conclusion that the greatest causes of our healthcare crisis in this country is bureaucracy and quality of care(this happens when we do not have enough healthcare providers). Do we really think the fix will be more bureaucracy and even greater lack of providers due to the system being overburdened?
These reports both state that the reason we have high healthcare costs is bureaucracy,low-quality of care and lack of rationing. How do you suggest we fix this without a government ran healthcare program. How do we not ration care, cut bureaucracy, and offer quality care without costing the American worker/taxpayer trillions of dollars. The bigger question is how do we justify trillions of dollars per year in new spending to get rid of $480 billion dollars per year in old spending?
canditaylor68 on May 23, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Frankly, JiangxDad…..You’re the handle I don’t recognize.
You’re vigorously obnoxious, however.
New handle?
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Blue Cross / Blue Shield Preferred PPO.
Doing just fine thanks mr/mrs socialist, so keep yer stinking hands out of my pie.
Spiritk9 on May 23, 2009 at 2:10 PM
JiangxiDad is a prolific commenter on HA.
DarkCurrent on May 23, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Yeah, just joined today. Made so many new friends already :)
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 2:12 PM
LOL. Everyone here knows JiangxiDad.
progressoverpeace on May 23, 2009 at 2:12 PM
In free enterprise you can dump your insurance company for a competitor. In “free” Obammycare the gummint decides whether a procedure is needed or if you have become a burden to The State.
Now don’t make waves about your daughter’s state-forced abortion and the denial of your wife’s chemotherapy Mr. Jones or there may be an IRS audit in your future by that angry new quota hire ACORN sent us down at the district office.
viking01 on May 23, 2009 at 2:12 PM
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2009/05/23/news/local/doc4a1444ee4a33f801955980.txt
What really causes hospitals to close in LA? The same policy -non immigration enforcement,that is straining the rest of California’s resources.(San Fran Nan, enforcing American Immigrations Laws is UnAmerican) How does that woman sit 2 steps away from the Presidency?
Dr Evil on May 23, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Anyone see the immense irony of President Obama saying that we are out of money and signing a new bill on Credit Cards just after he spent the last 100 days running berserk in spending with our ‘National Credit Card’?
Uniblogger on May 23, 2009 at 2:12 PM
I’m a small business owner (landscaping) and the healthcare issue hasn’t hurt my business one bit. But the outrageous taxes I’m forced to pay, along with new regulations is about to kill me. If cap and trade is passed, I’ll close my business down putting 8 people out of work.
Your Axelrod talking points don’t hold water and you have no idea what you’re talking about.
And how about some proof about the 7 medical centers closing down due to private health insurers? Put your money where your mouth is.
Knucklehead on May 23, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Anyone have the clip of Obama saying that one of the reasons for the crisis is healthcare? I distinctly recall him saying that.
Connie on May 23, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Actually JiangxDad is highly intelligent and his posts are worth reading, however you have answered none of the points made here other than to say “Whatever”. Again:
I hope you understand that there is no functional difference between you demanding “Free” Medical Care for yourself and demanding your field be harvested for “free”. You still want someone to “Yasser Masser” and to do what you want rather than equitable trade.
Well?
GunRunner on May 23, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Hopey/Changey has broke the bank,
outstanding,and in record breaking
historical speed!
Just think,its takes a ‘Community Organizing’
Activist Liberal President,to bring America to
her knees!
Nice rewrite of America by the Liberal Socialist Regime!!
Now,you Democrats out there,how’s the Change and Hope
work’n out for ya!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on May 23, 2009 at 2:14 PM
That’s the first thing I have ever heard Hussein make that wasn’t either “um-um-um”, or a damn lie.
Yeah, right, Urkel – we’re broke, and now you’re destroying our currency with Bernanke and that other clueless idiot.
TexasJew on May 23, 2009 at 2:16 PM
A key factor holding back private business is the loot now taken to insure against Junk Justice.
The more small business has to pay in protection against the Litigation Lottery the less can be allocated towards employee benefits.
viking01 on May 23, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Remember folks. The truly FRIGHTENING thing here has nothing to do with health care. What’s truly frightening it that the President of the United States, his administration, and allies, attempt to infiltrate these blog conversations between private citizens and surreptitiously, secretly, and deceitfully attempt to manipulate your conversations and beliefs. “Ann” is nothing individually, just a slug. But together, the Anns of our world are dangerous as hell.
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 2:18 PM
I have seen Dad around a while and Dad is not quite as inane as Ann. Not even close. :)
Jamson64 on May 23, 2009 at 2:18 PM
First up for National Health Care, the Joe/Ted Kennedy Plan, every citizen gets a lobotomy so they will purchase a new, floating, GM car.
2Tru2Tru on May 23, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Can’t be, we still have checks and printing presses.
/s
TheSitRep on May 23, 2009 at 2:19 PM
AnninCa,
I have had Blue Cross my whole adult life, and they have paid for treatment for cancer, severe allergies,chronic sinus problems, etc. A couple of times I have had to make a phone call or write a letter to get something covered, but that’s it.
What the government needs to do is remove roadblocks to independent insurers so that the self-employed can get coverage, not take over the whole system. That’s worked out so well for energy and education, hasn’t it?
/sarcasm
PattyJ on May 23, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Girl, you are so full of BS.
Every state has a Dept of Financial Services and/or a Dept of Insurance that acts as an advocate for consumers on all matters of insurance. A carrier cannot simply deny care or cancel a policy of insurance just because a claim is made. You think we’re a bunch of fools? Think again.
All carriers have rules and regs that they must follow in order to continue doing business in any given State. If they violate the State rules and regs they get spanked with heavy and sometimes debilitating fines and penalties.
Now, from what you’ve said, it seems that all of the woe’s are coming out of caleeforneea. Well, sister, why not get rid of your effing sanctuary cities and stop giving all the freebees to the millions of illegals that have infested your lands?
The key to health care “reform” lies in Tort Reform.
Get a job, Ann.
Key West Reader on May 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Just imagine Pelosi, Kennedy, the IRS, the Post Service , or the BMV handling your insurance.
Jamson64 on May 23, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Just for sh!ts and giggles, from The Precedent’s Georgetown speech on April 14th:
progressoverpeace on May 23, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Knucklehead on May 23, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Imagine how many older and experienced docs are going to say “screw it”, take their money and toys and just retire?
TexasJew on May 23, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Hows this for an image:
A prostate or OB/GYN exam at your local DMV office. Sounds quite pleasant, no?
Key West Reader on May 23, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Running out of cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
————————————–
Was it Serendipity,
were the stars aligned,
act of Gawd,
Man made disaster,
a mess left at Hopey`s feet,
Social Engineering runneth amuck,
by design,
all the bailouts,Stimulus cash didn`t work,
where the hell are the 5 to 10 million new
jobs Changey promised,
could it be the extra $1,500 tacked on to the
new cars for the new fuel emission standards,
could it be,that the Liberals have tried this
tax and spendus over and over,and over,and
over,but hey,this time they`ll get it right!!!!
canopfor on May 23, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Heh….I’ve made the argument. Good to see you and JiangxiDad and Dark Current still giving the adult POV.
genso on May 23, 2009 at 2:25 PM
The coffers were full Jan 20. What happened to the money?
Wade on May 23, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I thought you were dead! Where’ve you been?
DarkCurrent on May 23, 2009 at 2:30 PM
We already have DMV / IRS health care. Unfortunately it’s called the Veterans’ Administration.
viking01 on May 23, 2009 at 2:31 PM
They’re already doing that. My folks (in their 80’s) have lost 4 doctors in the past 5 or 6 years. They’ve folded their tents at early ages and walked away because of the outrageous malpractice insurance and the DEA breathing down their necks every time they prescribe pain medication.
The Government is already telling doctors how to prescribe. Won’t it be nice when their running the whole show/
Knucklehead on May 23, 2009 at 2:32 PM
There they go again, using the word “invest” as a cover for what they really mean; “federal spending”.
Note to conservative commentators; they keep trying it, we need to keep calling them on it.
cranbone on May 23, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I agree that a key to reform lies in tort reform. The WSJ has reported in the past year or so how a few states that have done so are thriving.
I’m sure that the Dems aren’t proposing it, and I’m not aware that the GOP is either.
That’s unfortunate.
BuckeyeSam on May 23, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Wade on May 23, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Bambi must think it is W’s fault. He didn’t leave an unlimited allowance / trust fund for Zero to throw at Scare Force One junkets and graft for Bambi’s activist handlers.
viking01 on May 23, 2009 at 2:36 PM
no, they weren’t. but there certainly was more than there is now…
homesickamerican on May 23, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Sometimes I feel like I’m living in some kind of dream Bizarro world, only the wheels are still round.
Why are the people of this country just sitting back contently while Barackus Casaer and his maniacal Senate destroys this countrys future and opens us up for a complete take-over, or even complete annihilation?
SilverStar830 on May 23, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Question?
Can a President be impeached for
reckless spending that has put
America in Dire Straights?
Or,is it more like Treason,after all
Obama has almost caused a Financial
9/11!!(And yes,I`m being really sarcastic
on the 9/11!).
canopfor on May 23, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I’ve actually been traveling in your part of the world moving money and making investments. I’m determined not to help fund this crap.
genso on May 23, 2009 at 2:42 PM
I guess bailing out the UAW is pretty costly. But it’s not real money, after all, since Ben Bernanke is printing it at the rate of 200 billion per week.
I bought a 100 trillion dollar Zimbabwe note on eBay a couple of weeks ago – should I send it to old Ben to help out? What a pal!
I sure hope that 99.9% of taxpayers are in that “upper 5%” that Obama is going to milk.
ObamaMath – another fine example of Affirmative Action at work.
TexasJew on May 23, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Oh man, for awhile there I was thinking I thought that we needed serious health care reform, until you called someone a SLIMY CONNIVING JUDAS WHORE and now I’m convinced that your viewpoint is the correct one.
Proud Rino on May 23, 2009 at 2:43 PM
So, is it you don’t like the truth or just the tone?
genso on May 23, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I think I’ll toss in my two cents worth about JDad. I’ve been here a couple of years and have seen ‘em come and seen ‘em go and I’ve seen JDad for quite a long time. Usually one of the more lucid posters here but I don’t think I’ve seen him this unhinged at someone before. I think he must be on to this “AnninCa” character. Don’t let the ba$tards get you down,Dad.
Big John on May 23, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Good to see you back safe.
DarkCurrent on May 23, 2009 at 2:47 PM
YOU SLIMY, CONNIVING, JUDAS, WHORE.
JiangxiDad on May 23, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Stop defaming Judas. At least he was a better money manager than Obama!
TexasJew on May 23, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Thanks. How are thinks in the Middle Kingdom?
genso on May 23, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Good. Were you here?
DarkCurrent on May 23, 2009 at 2:51 PM
msmveritas on May 23, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Hong Kong and Singapore. Going to Tokyo in August.
genso on May 23, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Or as Rahm told Bambi during his morning feeding: “All gone. Bye-bye”.
viking01 on May 23, 2009 at 2:54 PM
msmveritas on May 23, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Wow.
Should I also send Ben my 1946 100 quintillion Pengo note from Hungary, just in case he still runs a little short or if his printing press overheats?
TexasJew on May 23, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Nationalized health care will not help small business. Most small business earnings, are in the realm of what Obama leaves, as a cut off, for higher taxes. Which now stands at around $238,000 a year. Either way, the owners of these businesses, will be paying higher taxes. This will break them. Paying more out of pocket, to support nationalized health care, won’t sustain these business owners, it will destroy them.
I know people want this, because they see themselves calling the doctor that day, saying I’m not feeling well, and expect to just waltz in, and get care. It won’t happen. They’ve already said, they will ration care. Which means, russian roulette with your health. THEY will decide, if you need to see a doctor. THEY will decide if you get treatment, or what treatment you should have.
God help all the parents, with a sick child, when the government says, it’s to expensive to treat the childs ailments. God help the elderly, who will eventually see their demise, because Government said they could no longer afford to fund their heart meds, or high blood pressure meds. God help the individual, who caught their cancer early, only to be told, the chemo, and radiation don’t fit within the budget this year, and wait til next year. By that time, the cancer as mastisized into all vital organs.
Yeah…this is going to rock!
capejasmine on May 23, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Sounds like a Palpatine-type maneuver to me. Remember when they were trying to make a correlation to GWB and the Star Wars power-grab story?
Guess we’d better watch out for a mysterious “separatist movement” in case
PalpatineObama wants to “organize” America to be more “efficient” in fighting them off!/s
cranbone on May 23, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Look like he is going to need all the help he can get.
msmveritas on May 23, 2009 at 3:00 PM
You need to stop by Shanghai next time, at least for a beer.
DarkCurrent on May 23, 2009 at 3:00 PM
JiangxiDad has been here forever!
I can’t believe Ann said otherwise.
INC on May 23, 2009 at 3:01 PM
DarkCurrent on May 23, 2009 at 3:00 PM
genso on May 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM
oops…forgot to close quote.
genso on May 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM
You haven’t explained why this is so. Would you? Use numbers rather than general concepts and provide the linkage, please.
Do you also claim that our present health care system is preventing the economy from recovery?
a capella on May 23, 2009 at 3:04 PM
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