Video: Mancow gets waterboarded
posted at 4:00 pm on May 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
I’m too lazy on an afternoon before a holiday weekend to check our archives for how many clips I’ve posted of private citizens voluntarily waterboarding themselves to prove how awful it is. Suffice it to say the number’s greater than three, which of course is the total number of terrorists waterboarded by the CIA. Like Hitchens, Mancow readily calls it torture, which must make this the first torture technique in history that can double as a shock-jock radio bit. Needless to say, the ethical question isn’t whether waterboarding is harrowing; every account of it that I’ve ever read says it is. The ethical question is whether it’s necessary and effective, harrowing or not, in drawing out life-saving info in an emergency situation. I’d have been interested in hearing Mancow’s opinion, post-boarding, on whether he’d still use the procedure if he thought it might avert a terrorist attack. I know which way I’d bet.
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Purely hypothetical.
DarkCurrent on May 22, 2009 at 7:01 PM
THAT’S waterboarding? Ya gotta be kidding me! That guy needs to change his name from Mancow to Manb!tch.
Jeebus! I got drunk in college and on a bet I snorted an entire BEER up my nostrils! That crap was irritating as hell because it foamed up and it was cheap Budweiser, the “Red & White Skullcrusher”. Waterboarding is a walk in the park compared to beer-snorting.
Mancow is a wimp. Tell him to turn in his Man Card immediately. For cryin’ out loud, if you know what’s coming all you have to do is hold your breath. As out of shape as I am I can still hold my breath for more than 60 seconds.
The only reason I can think of why the Islamic terrorists hate waterboarding so much is because the smelly turds don’t bathe in the first place!
CatchAll on May 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Pusillanimous
abinitioadinfinitum on May 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Please define “ethics” for us.
Del Dolemonte on May 22, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Waitaminute.
Mancow… I remember Mancow. There are flashbacks.
Being forced to listen to Mancow is torture.
Waterboarding Mancow is payback.
Mew
acat on May 22, 2009 at 7:23 PM
That just about covers it.
ElectricPhase on May 22, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Ignoring if water-boarding is torture or not, (it’s not) there is then the question if water-boarding, and/or torture produces useful results. As with the product of any interrogation, you need to decide what is truth. There are several ways of doing this, including but not limited to already knowing the answer to some of the questions you ask, using differentiated stress detection,(lie detectors) when asking asking questions about the previous answers, and dosing the interrogated with alcohol, or other drugs to reduce their ability to lie.
darktood on May 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM
- The Cat
P.S. I just quoted myself.
MirCat on May 22, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Ohhhhhh! That looks like torture!
Let me try it to be sure.
Is it me, or are all of these sanctimonious civil libertarians demonstrating their masochistic tendencies?
Why don’t they volunteer for some jumper cables to the nipples or maybe forty lashes with a cat-o-nine tails?
Maybe our military could use them to find out if stepping on land mines hurts.
walkingboss on May 22, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Obama solves the Gitmo crisis by declaring enemy combatants to be fetuses.
win win
Mr. Joe on May 22, 2009 at 7:57 PM
hee hee.
HornetSting on May 22, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Ten seconds after it is over and the pussy is babbling about how terrible it is. What kind of torture is that? What a sissie. Let the sissie paddle out in a northeaster and have his leash break. Spend 30 minutes in the break zone trying to tread whitewater and see how much water comes out of your sinuses. I’ve had water coming out of my sinuses for two days. They did this to the sheik 180 times! What kind of torture is it if you can do it 180 times? It ain’t torture if they can do it 180 times and you still clean your plate at dinner. What a country of sissies we have become. Woos!
peacenprosperity on May 22, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Ten seconds after they are done and he’s babbling about how bad it was. What a little woosie. The sheik was waterboarded 180 times and went back to his cell and cleaned his dinner plate. What the hell kind of torture is that? If you can talk as soon as it is over then it ain’t torture. Let the fruit paddle out in an northeaster and have his leash break. Spend 30 minutes in the break zone trying tp tread whitewater. I’ve had water coming out of my sinuses for two days and thought it was awesome. Your lying on the table, they’ve explained it on tv and radio 1000 times and you know what is coming and still cry like a baby whine like a sissy when it’s over. If you don’t have permanent marks on your body then it ain’t torture. “Ooohhhh, it was sooo bad.” What a little fruit. I hope no one is ever in the position that they need this guy to heroically save them because he will just wet his pants and cry.
peacenprosperity on May 22, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Sorry for repeating myself but my post totally disappeared the first time and I wanted to have my say.
peacenprosperity on May 22, 2009 at 8:07 PM
One of the requirements for something to be considered “torture” is that it must inflict lasting physical or psychological damage. What lasting physical or pyschological damage did Mancow endure here? If he can talk about it seconds after it is over, the experience, however unpleasant, should not be called torture.
DarkKnight3565 on May 22, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Sounds like he had a past trauma in his childhood with drowning so no wonder he didn’t last that long. I have plenty of liberal commentators waterboard themselves and last much longer than this.
Of course it is not going to be a pleasant experience, that’s why it was used and that’s why it worked.
Is it torture? If you do it to me enough times I will most likely say it is but the fact that I was even willing to volunteer doesn’t make it true torture in my mind. I would not volunteer to have my testicles hooked up to jumper cables or have my finger nails plucked. Everyone is rushing to be waterboarded though.
Daemonocracy on May 22, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Slip a couple of bamboo shoots under his nails and see how he compares them.
faol on May 22, 2009 at 8:34 PM
“One of the requirements for something to be considered “torture” is that it must inflict lasting physical or psychological damage.”
DarkKnight3565 on May 22, 2009 at 8:09 PM
So… You’re saying that being forced to look at Pelosi naked would rise to the level of torture? I would agree that it would, I would choose waterboarding first, as I write, I am poking out my minds eye.
M-14 2go on May 22, 2009 at 8:38 PM
sheik khalis lasted almost 2 minutes one time.
if you can eat dinner after whatever the experience is then it wasn’t torture.
By the way the one thing all these liberals don’t talk about is the strict guidelines outlined in the use of these interrogation techniques. The terrorists basically could stop the procedure just as easy as this bullfruit did. Of course after they looked in his eyes and determined he wasn’t in any danger they got him ready for another session. When they used sleep deprivation one of the guidelines was that if there was any indication that the guy was hallucinating they would have a doctor check him out and stop the procedure. Also the liberals scream that khalid had it done to him 180 times as if it were 180 days of torture. What this guy did constituted 1 time. They could have done khalid 180 times in one afternoon. I guarantee after he gave in and he was spilling his beans he was being served a kosher dinner.
peacenprosperity on May 22, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Cruel and inhuman.
peacenprosperity on May 22, 2009 at 8:44 PM
You succeeded in that and did a dam# good job of it:
Right on target!
Baxter Greene on May 22, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Hmmmm let me see…
Mancow (as with hitchens) still has his head attached to his pudgy little body. His arms attached, His penis is unaltered, his vagina is unharmed (which is what happens to many muslim women), his fingers aren’t injured, he doesn’t look like he was thrown in a shredder, He hasn’t been gutted, or stoned, or any chemical like acid thrown in his face to disfigure him, hasn’t been buried up to his armpits and then kicked till dead, arms/hands/feet haven’t been cut or broken and he hasn’t had to be forced to watch his wife or daughter being gang raped.
Just had the unfortunate (yet uncomfortable) act of blowing his nose, before sitting up and walking out the door to change his pannies.
Listen mancow and hitchens…it’s SUPPOSED to be uncomfortable. Not disfiguring.
Handel on May 22, 2009 at 9:04 PM
If this is torture, it is a fairly humane and benign form of torture as the subject is able to recover almost instantaneously with no long term ill effect.
Unfortunately, the conversion of the Pelosi-types will come at a high price and will be paid by average citizens.
When a society reaches a point that it refuses to take reasonable steps to defend itself from unreasonable people it is time to fear for the long term survival of the nation.
moxie_neanderthal on May 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Incorrect. Teh One was an elected senator at the time. He was “in office”, in fact he was in an office that had a much greater ability to influence housing policies than W was. He chose not to involve himself, when another person in a similar elected office actually attempted to do something about the situation before it exploded.
Fighton03 on May 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM
and going to the Dentist is torture too.
We are such a kinder gentler nation on wimps.
mew…
Indian Outlaw on May 22, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Its torture light, but its still torture.
I don’t care if we use it on terrorists either.
V-rod on May 22, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Then again, long term imprisonment and isolation can be put in the same category, which that method of punishment is ok with the left.
V-rod on May 22, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Well, I am just an awful person because I am fine with it being called torture. (Even though I don’t think it is) But if they need to do it. DO IT.
Cindy Munford on May 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM
When water boarding them, I wouldn’t ask them any questions…..no matter how much they wanted to spill their guts. I might even insist on using holy water, and letting them know what they are being baptized in…..no 72 virgins for you Abdul.
Because I am Evil.
Dr Evil on May 22, 2009 at 9:48 PM
These guys had worse planned for New Yorkers in the name of what religion ???? go ahead guess, and no they aren’t Amish or Quakers.
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/22/the-jihadi-virus-in-our-jails/
Dr Evil on May 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Does not meet the definition of torture. Anyone who was truly tortured would not be able to discuss it so easily 5 seconds later. Extreme discomfort? Sure. This debate has become meaningless. Not one person on earth lost a moment of sleep over what was done to KSM. Political posturing and phony moralizing is all I see.
echosyst on May 22, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Perfect description of her.
- The Cat
MirCat on May 22, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Not one person on earth lost a moment of sleep over what was done to KSM. Political posturing and phony moralizing is all I see.
echosyst on May 22, 2009 at 9:54 PM
A lot of people have lost sleep over what he did to their loved ones but no one is discussing his victims or who they left behind. How they jumped from fiery sky scrappers. How they fought to take over a plane that was probably headed for the Capitol. The people who were calling their loved ones for the last time, to tell them they loved them and good bye. The flight attendants that got their throats cut with box cutters…I haven’t forgotten.
Dr Evil on May 22, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Torture:
When a Faggot is allowed to fondle and rape a child and destroy that child’s innocence.
When a women is allowed to walk into a facility and have a trained physician rip the baby out of the womb..which had no say-so.
I read one post tonight that accused us of being double-minded when it comes to Abortion and Death Pentalty including war.
1) The Fetus has never done anything to anyone and has no choice or say so…therefore, if it’s a female, the mother has just violated the Female’s choice in a life or death situation.
2) War: War sucks but has to happen. Without war, we would either speak German or Japanese and bow before Hiroto or Hitler..take your pick. It’s Political war, think Vietnam and Black Hawk Down, which sucks. Turn our boys loose and they are home in a matter of months…not years.
3) Torture: I wonder if the same people who have a problem with torture of someone who is threatening our country vs the procedure where a pair of scissors are inserted into the base of a baby’s skull so it dies prior to the chin exiting the Birth Canal!
will sass u on May 22, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Hey, why don’t we soak some Swine Testicles in the water while we are at it!
will sass u on May 22, 2009 at 10:19 PM
I had an incompetent dentist as a kid who apparently bought his drill and novacaine second-hand and loved Olivier in “Marathon Man”.
One year I had 7 cavities.
Mancow can pound salt- big baby.
jjshaka on May 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Nobody would ever volunteer to be subjected to real torture.
Pythagoras on May 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM
All these clips are proving is how different from real torture this actually is!
Why don’t they do some real he-man torture of themselves. Like,, make videos of themselves getting their fingers broken one at a time,, or having their hands smashed with hammers,, or flesh carved off their thighs,,,eyeballs sucked out with a vacuum cleaner,,, If waterboarding is such torture and they are being so brave by putting themselves through this time and time again,, well, lets see them do some other kinds of torture on themselves and we can judge how brave and courageous they really are.
JellyToast on May 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM
or translated to “whaaa whaaa whaaa”.
Comon. These guys are the first ones to say : “Praise allahbooblies! I am not afraid to DIE FOR MY CAUSE AND DIE FOR MY ALLLAHBOOBLAHS!”
And then they is subjected to 14 seconds of water boarding when they start saying “uncle-babba’s!”
Please.
Your little week sister “its torture” squeak makes you sound a little like a soap box nancy, with his panties riding up his nether crevace.
Reach down, reach down DEEP, stick your finger in there, grab that and give a firm yank. (SHHLLL-POP!!)
..Or at the very least switch to boxers. Cuz goodness knows, the constraints of your tighty whitey’s are making your man-baubles shrink up.
MAN-UP!
Or your new name should be lawrence o’donnel.
Handel on May 22, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Are we sure he wasn’t Kool-Aid-boarded? How else do you say “I’m fine” and then call it torture?
Ronnie on May 22, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Torture isn’t binary.
Ted Torgerson on May 22, 2009 at 11:54 PM
I have one word for Mancow: PUSSY
I refer you all to the well-known Al-Qaeda Torture Manual
and here at the Jawa Report
Tell you what Mr. Absolutely-It-Was-Torture…let’s try drilling through your hand with a power drill next time. Or how about a red hot steam iron pressed into your chest? Perhaps we can shoot your fingers off one by one — surely you won’t have any childhood flashbacks on that one? Of course, if none of that works, we can just hack your f___ing head off, but we’d have to do that in one take.
Aren’t we all so tired of these sanctimonious beta people who never would have the stones to face our enemies let alone support us in our desire to be protected from them?
On a scale of 1 to 10 where decapitating someone is a 10, waterboarding is really a random number between 0 and 1 depending on how much of a liberal wuss you are.
jcmorris on May 23, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Get back to me when anyone who so sanctimoniously water boards themselves volunteers to choose between jumping off a building or burning to death.
Hawkins1701 on May 23, 2009 at 12:38 AM
There are many things that suck; Mariah Carey’s music, Spaghetti-Os, the Disney Channel, and, yes, waterboarding. The fact that something sucks doesn’t make it torture. Okay, so being forced to listen to Mariah Carey may be torture.
The bottom line: If it didn’t suck, it wouldn’t work.
Wingo on May 23, 2009 at 1:32 AM
What’s wrong with liberals water-boarding themselves?
Hopefully this will catch on with liberal media pundits, and with student radicals and their professors at college and universities everywhere.
And when they get bored with that- hopefully again, they’ll up the ante upon themselves with even more drastic forms of of torture…google Medieval torture devices just to give yourself some idea of what “fun things” they could subject themselves to.
8-track-vinyl on May 23, 2009 at 2:00 AM
This is just ridiculous. I’m sorry, but “torture” never looked so harmless. Yes it sets in a feeling of panic. So does looking out of the window of a tall building for some people. Stick waterboarding in a box with recognized methods of torture like finger nail pulling, broken fingers, cut muscles, and burns with a hot iron. Now tell me, which one in the box isn’t like the others? If you can’t answer that question your IQ is clearly lower than your age.
Stickeehands on May 23, 2009 at 2:52 AM
That’s not an ethical question; that’s a question about the pragmatic consequences of the technique. Waterboarding could be both necessary and effective and still be morally impermissible.
Bill Ramey on May 23, 2009 at 3:03 AM
This is the same weenie, Mancow, that Danny Bonaduce beat up in a parking garage in Chicago.
LAUGHABLE!
I’ve seen worse at a Baptism at the river.
nelsonknows on May 23, 2009 at 3:19 AM
REALLY Girlcow…waterboarding is torture? Says who? The UCMJ?….NOPE….federal Law?…. NOPE…….The Geneva Conventions?….NOPE! Show me ONE law making waterboarding torture AND or illegal.
nelsonknows on May 23, 2009 at 3:27 AM
That was really quick. Either Man Cow was acting or he’s a really big baby.
SoulGlo on May 23, 2009 at 5:49 AM
Lol…seriously?
He’s very delicate, isn’t he?
Asher on May 23, 2009 at 6:55 AM
I’m curious. If an interrogator had pretended to play Russian roulette with an empty gun on KSM, would that have been torture?
ddrintn on May 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM
The question isn’t about waterboarding its about whether Mancow is now unable to step into the shower.
So what if he was scared and intimidated is that now a consideration we give our violent enemies?
Speakup on May 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM
The LA Times take on this [Cheney's assertions of lives saved is hard to prove] is absolutely correct on the face of it. Of course it’s hard to prove Cheney’s assertion when the current Administration is actively suppressing the documentation which would prove it. I also note that the LA Times was really selective this time in choosing their “terrorism experts” — particularly absent is Brian Jenkins of the Rand Corporation, who is normally a local staple in LA Times stories of this type, and who was one of the participants in the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks, aka the 9/11 Commission. The LA Times waits until the last paragraph in the column to unload the meat:
unclesmrgol on May 23, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Excellent.
unclesmrgol on May 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Um:
1 – wtf? holding his nose? isn’t the point that water is supposed to go up the nose to make them feel like they’re drowning?
2 – tie his shoes together but not hold his feet – what’s the point in that?
3 – feet elevated, but head not on the downslope?
Which part of Mancow’s experience there would make him feel like he’s drowning?
Am I missing something here? That looked completely fake and far less severe than other similarly staged demonstrations.
Midas on May 23, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Sorry Mancow, Eric Holder, Hussein’s AG stated before congress that it is not torture. Unpleasant does not equal permanent damage. What waterboarding is, is effective.
You’re not supposed to like it, dumbass.
dogsoldier on May 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM
And in almost all cases the Mother’s guest was invited even if the lock on the door broke.
CWforFreedom on May 23, 2009 at 4:00 PM
I’m surprised he didn’t wet his panties.
If you can sit up and talk, completely unharmed immediately after a procedure, it’s not torture. It’s scary, but it’s not torture.
Pussy.
darwin-t on May 23, 2009 at 5:34 PM
To me bungee jumping, Tilt-o-Whirls and roller coasters are sheer torture. Seriously.
So, should they set up a new Gitmo on International Drive in Orlando?
Dr. ZhivBlago on May 23, 2009 at 6:13 PM
I’m surprised he didn’t wet his diaper. If you can sit up unharmed and talk about a procedure immediately after it’s done, it is not torture.
darwin-t on May 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Lemme know when leftists are signing up for the electrocution, nail pulling and piano wire segments.
moxie_neanderthal on May 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM
the hitchens video is better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58
i am tired of the semantics argument about whether it’s torture or not.
i am fine with calling it torture, or whatever. we have to make hard choices to SAVE LIVES, and this is obviously the most humane way available to physically coerce information out of people.
i have no qualms with it at all.
homesickamerican on May 23, 2009 at 7:50 PM
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