Oh my: No bailout for California, says White House
posted at 10:09 am on May 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
Not yet, anyway. I’m surprised, but only because the thought of The One declining a request for free taxpayer money seems unfathomable, like Santa telling a kid he really is getting coal in his stocking this year. Santa doesn’t do that.
Of course, Santa doesn’t have to run for reelection either. Given that voters nationally oppose a California bailout by a margin of 35 points and that California’s likely to stay blue in 2012 no matter what happens, this is actually a no-brainer.
Axelrod indicated that federal intervention on California’s behalf would set a dangerous precedent.
“There’s no doubt that there are states all over this country who have problems — not problems the size of California — but significant problems. And every governor in the country wants and needs assistance,” he said…
Even if the president were to make an exception for California, the aid would need to come on unattractive terms so as not to send a message that distressed states can expect Washington to engineer a painless rescue.
Although the $700-billion federal bailout fund potentially could be tapped to help California, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner expressed doubt Thursday that he had the authority, without new congressional legislation, to aid California under the program originally set up by Congress to rescue financial institutions…
California Democrats are working to build a case for federal intervention, noting the state’s importance to President Obama’s efforts to turn the economy around.
“Allowing California to go belly up presents a great risk to our hoped-for continued economic recovery,” Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Burbank) told Geithner.
How strange that Team Barry would suddenly become sticklers about TARP’s proper purpose and cavalier about the systemic effects of letting a huge entity fail. They were happy to ignore the former and fret about the latter when it came to rescuing GM, which is now set for $30 billion more in, ahem, “loans” as part of its imminent bankruptcy. In any case, as I emphasized, there’ll be no bailout yet, but once the economy recovers a bit and Obama has some new political capital to spend, all bets are off. George Will eyes the game plan in California:
The Obama administration, which rewarded the United Auto Workers by giving it considerable control over two companies it helped reduce to commercial rubble, will serve the interests of California’s unionized public employees and others largely responsible for reducing the state to mendicancy.
These factions will flourish if the state becomes a federal poodle on a short leash held by the president. He might make aid conditional on the state doing things that California Democrats and their union allies would love to be “compelled” to do: eliminate the requirements of two-thirds majorities of both houses of the legislature to raise taxes and pass budgets, and repeal Proposition 13, which voters passed in 1978 to limit property taxes. These changes would enable the legislature (job approval rating: 14 percent) to siphon away an ever-larger share of taxpayers’ wealth and transfer it to public employees. Such as prison guards, whose potent union is one reason California’s cost-per-inmate (about $49,000) is twice the national average.
Per the LA Times piece, Barney Frank’s already talking about passing legislation to let Treasury tap TARP to aid ailing states. If you missed Reason TV’s video the other day about the coming California-ization of America under Obama, now might be a good time to catch up.










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It’ll be interesting to see exactly when the economy does recover enough to give Obama political capital…the recovery has been pushed back twice now already…I’m skeptical about any recovery at all during this term.
AUINSC on May 22, 2009 at 10:13 AM
I’ll be back.
Daggett on May 22, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Perfect solution…
Bailout California – fine.
BUT the price to pay is NO CA electoral votes in 2012, NO CA senate seats through 2012, and NO CA reps in the house.
Could be the BEST use of taxpayer funds yet in this bailout era.
gatorboy on May 22, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Why do I think that even if California goes bankrupt their pension and benefits obligations to public employees will still end up getting billed to the Feds?
gabriel sutherland on May 22, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Jee Arnold, you went to the movies with and put out and he didn’t even pick up the tab.
Do you feel used?
Mr. Joe on May 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM
There is the matter of the $2.00/hr pay cut for the teachers union. Remember? The Abortionist in Chief flatly stated no bailout as long as the teachers union were getting a paycut.
Note to Golden Staters: You’ve been terminated.
BobMbx on May 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Why not bail california out , and give 55% to the SEIU?..
the_nile on May 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Buy me a star on the boulevard
It’s Californication
Red Cloud on May 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Great!!
Can we get the Terminator/Mad Max vibe to get started in Kalifornia???
Looting, Chaos, Anarchy – this will be the greatest film evah!!!!!
izoneguy on May 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM
“The Golden State” out.
“The Welfare State” in.
Congratulations California. Get to the choppa!
gabriel sutherland on May 22, 2009 at 10:17 AM
My guess? Obama seizes control of all California state assets, sells them to the European Union and grants full operational control of the state to the SEIU.
Flyover Country on May 22, 2009 at 10:17 AM
I guess the California Girls (Nancy, Diane, and Babs) don’t carry much weight with the Obammy.
Blake on May 22, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Good to hear it. We don’t need a bailout.
Is this something that happened in your childhood AP?
FontanaConservative on May 22, 2009 at 10:18 AM
You betcha!!!
Other states will sue the feds the minute any money flows from the fed to bail out Kalifornia. Where will it stop? The Feds are setting themselves up for an epic fail. At some point a state will stop sending in the gas taxes and the FICA taxes.
izoneguy on May 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM
“You can’t touch me, I’m in the Union”.
OldEnglish on May 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Free money doesn’t seem so free anymore
EricPWJohnson on May 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM
I think Obama wants to punish the anti tax sentiment in California.
the_nile on May 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM
California needs tough love. Hopefully in the process, they will get serious about sending all the illegal immigtant leaches back to their home countries, and at the same time ween all the “lay about” welfare trough sloppers off the government dola.
Expelling the illegal immigrant cheaters and motivating the layabouts to get off their butts may be the spark that helps them turn things around there.
saiga on May 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Can someone find the expiration date on this? I am sure there is one.
Brat4life on May 22, 2009 at 10:21 AM
…unless the “kid” is GOP.
jgapinoy on May 22, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Axelrod indicated that federal intervention on California’s behalf would set a dangerous precedent.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Like nationalizing the auto industry the banking industry, and the healthcare industry doesn’t? Maybe they should just nationalize California and turn it into a ‘District of Columbia’. The upside being that all those pesky Congress critters and State legislators would go away.
percysunshine on May 22, 2009 at 10:22 AM
I’m skeptical, very skeptical. Bailing out states paves the way to end federalism. Obama will never let a crisis go to waste.
petefrt on May 22, 2009 at 10:22 AM
It is sad to see a state that produce a Ronald Reagan be reduced to this.
Damn liberals and Rino’s dam them all to hell
unseen on May 22, 2009 at 10:22 AM
All this time, when I heard people talk about “the big one” that is surely going to hit California, I thought they meant earthquake.
But now I’m thinking it’s something more like what Will is contemplating.
myrenovations on May 22, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Actually, that is a good point…the rejection of tax increases in CA doesn’t bode well for Obama’s overall scheme…he’ll have to make an example out of anybody that doesn’t toe the line on the tax increases he’ll have to start pushing very soon on the federal level.
AUINSC on May 22, 2009 at 10:24 AM
The backlash from a bailout of that liberal cess pool will be off the charts. We all see the retards spending money beyond sanity.
They need to take care of their own house.
dogsoldier on May 22, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Great
Now Arnold is going to have to borrow money from Skynet
blatantblue on May 22, 2009 at 10:25 AM
I hope this doesn’t interrupt my kid’s services.
I tell you I have lived in CA all my young adulthood and was soaked by all the taxes. Now that I am a dad with a slightly autistic son, I am finally getting my fair share of those vaunted government services. My son got free pre-school and now has a tax-payer funded “shadow” at his kindergarden class — basically his own teacher that just follows him around all day making sure he stays focus on the class. When he gets home everyday there is waiting for him a tax payer funded team of cute asian girl therapists to work with him on socializing skills. I tell you, his brian is a bit disorganized right now (a lot like mine was at his age), but it is nothing that would not be fixed as he matures. But if these services are available, and it were your kid, and you paid all those taxes all those years, wouldn’t you take advantage of it? Or would you rather those services go to some illegal alien?
tommylotto on May 22, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Blah blah blah. Only thing that matters is that THE POLLS don’t support it. They’ll find away around it when the outrage dies down.
marklmail on May 22, 2009 at 10:25 AM
No kidding. They didn’t seem to lose sleep over doing all that. And look how well that has turned out thus far.
mjk on May 22, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Bankruptcy courts allow a company to re-write contracts.
Would a state bankruptcy allow a state to re-write it’s constitution?
MarkTheGreat on May 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM
MarkTheGreat on May 22, 2009 at 10:25 AM
No more aid to Mexico.
Johan Klaus on May 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM
California legislatures only option left:
percysunshine on May 22, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Just because you need something, doesn’t mean you are entitled to it. Much less going to get it.
MarkTheGreat on May 22, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Hint, hint.
Grafted on May 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM
I don’t believe it. The only hold up is trying to find a new term for bailout. Spin that printing press, what could go wrong.
Cindy Munford on May 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Oops…linked to:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKTRE54L1VG20090522
percysunshine on May 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM
I don’t believe them. They feed off distress. The bailout will be reworded and slide in under cover of the next distraction.
sherry on May 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Obama is playing a dangerous electoral game. If California isn’t happy with him, it opens the door for the “real GOP” (i.e. not the Jerkinator) to come in and at least compete.
Obama isn’t likely to lose California, New York, or New Jersey but the way things are trending, he may have to spend money and time there, money and time that won’t be going to Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Virginia, Nevada, and North Carolina.
If the 2009 governors races and the 2010 mid-terms break bad for him, look out. It will be game on for 2012.
Nat Hound on May 22, 2009 at 10:31 AM
The “It’s too big to fail” argument coming in 3….2….1….
D2Boston on May 22, 2009 at 10:31 AM
It is to big to flail.
percysunshine on May 22, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Quite your whinning.
I’ve paid into SS my entire life, I’m not going to get a penny of it back.
Just because you paid taxes doesn’t mean squat. So have millions of other people.
MarkTheGreat on May 22, 2009 at 10:32 AM
I also have a slightly autistic son. He has difficulty talking and understanding people. He has great difficulty staying focused.
In school he does not get a special assistant. He gets 1/2 hour a week with an OT. Beyond that we pay for our own therapy. I mean the idea of my federal taxes going to support your state is simply infuriating!
Ted Torgerson on May 22, 2009 at 10:34 AM
As I said over in the headlines on this: The White House knows whatever they gain by bailing out the California Democrats and unions is offset by the anger they’d get from voters in the 49 other states, and the requests for similar bail-outs from pols in at least half of those states.
So they can’t bail out California directly. But they can spend Memorial Day weekend trying to figure out who has standing to file a lawsuit in court (the state teacher’s union? SEIU? ACORN?) to get a judge to rule Tuesday’s votes unconstitutional, and to order state taxpayers to fork over the money demanded to support California’s overspending. That way they can claim to have no fingerprints on the decision, and hope there are enough swing voters out there who believe that to get away with the scam.
jon1979 on May 22, 2009 at 10:34 AM
I bet if a Democrat were running California that’d be a different answer.
What happened to “spreading the wealth around”?
Skywise on May 22, 2009 at 10:35 AM
They waited for the vote and then decided…pretty simple.
tomas on May 22, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Dude…you make this same comment everytime the CA budget mess is brought up.
Joe Caps on May 22, 2009 at 10:36 AM
The taxpayer shouldn’t be picking up the tab for services like that to begin with. Plus, they’re exorbitantly expensive because they’re tax payer funded.
What do illegals have to do with it?
darwin on May 22, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Axelrod is only showing the administrations opening negotiating position. When they get their pound of flesh, they will bail out California. Standard operating proceedure for loan sharks and crack dealers.
percysunshine on May 22, 2009 at 10:37 AM
He will find a way to call it something else. Like a waterboarding reparation funding.
How about a 50 billion dollar railroad? To Harry Reid’s town? Can we use UAW to build the cars?
seven on May 22, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Yeah, part of the problem…”screw you guys, I want my free cake”
AUINSC on May 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM
I would find it hard to believe that those same services wouldn’t be available to a non citizen child living in the US, we (U.S. in general) seldom deny anything to children. I hope you child thrives.
Cindy Munford on May 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Children = Punishment for having sex
BobMbx on May 22, 2009 at 10:40 AM
So real downsizing? I will believe it when I see it …
tarpon on May 22, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Obama will reinstall Grey Davis as CEO/Governor, hand over the billions, and all will be well..
TexasJew on May 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM
I don’t profess to see all the angles, but if Obama does this, I think he opens the door to huge losses in 2010. Members from clear-blue states will be safe, but those in purple areas may be in serious trouble. I think we’re going to be floundering, if not foundering, economically speaking, for some time. And all Obama is doing is tying anchors to the economy’s neck. Honestly, when people think of California, they think of Hollywood, San Francisco, and illegal aliens, and I can’t see a lot of voter appeal for bailing those groups out.
BuckeyeSam on May 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM
They said the same about the car companies.
And you still believe them?
blue13326 on May 22, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Ummm, we do have a Democrat running California; his name is Arnold.
yogi41 on May 22, 2009 at 10:43 AM
It expires when California has a Democrat governor. At this point the politics is pretty simple: Arnuld gets the blame for messing up the state and thus Bambi has no reason to spend political capital or financial capital to prop him up.
PackerBronco on May 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM
The following story happened roughly 35 years ago. From AmericanHeritage.com:
Sound eerily familiar?
History repeats itself X 1000.
tru2tx on May 22, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Yep. He needs either judicial or congressional cover on this one.
a capella on May 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM
o/t: we need to write/call/email our congressjerks about cap ‘n trade. gateway pundit’s prediction is that it would raise taxes/prices for family of 4 by $2,900 per year.
that & the massive inflation we will be seeing will bankrupt many families.
write/call/email your congressmen today!
kelley in virginia on May 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Man, the other 56 states are going to be PISSED!
CDeb on May 22, 2009 at 10:51 AM
If we took all the money back that is sent to ACORN and their affiliates it would be a good start. We continue to feed corruption.
If you quit giving away houses, medical and unemployment to those that are not citizens and are breaking our laws they will go back to where they came from and we will then be able to balance our budget.
But, then who would vote for democrats then??
workingforpigs on May 22, 2009 at 10:54 AM
I comiserate with your situation and likely would do exactly what you are doing. Your situation is, however, the perfect illustration of how the left aims for resignation from all of us. Milk the producers and then throw them a bone. In a just world you have all that money you’ve worked hard for instead of supporting millions of mexicans, junkies and welfare mothers who add nothing to your life or to your state. Then you could afford those services yourself or you or your wife could stay home and give your son the best attention available, that of his own mother or father.
peacenprosperity on May 22, 2009 at 10:55 AM
It is simple math, that the polititians, and most of the residents won’t face.
Count the number of retirees on a state, county, city, pension.
Now add the cost of replacing those retirees (basically almost every state, county, city, job has another retired or on disability leave).
Now add the cost of servicing illegal aliens who pay a small % back to the gov. entities.
That alone will create your shortfall…now add the cost of additional gov. programs, school administrators, illegal medical, schooling, social services, police and you can’t be in the black.
right2bright on May 22, 2009 at 10:58 AM
MarkTheGreat on May 22, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Nor do we want it. If we get a bailout, it will undermine all we did to push these props back at the Governor. It will also be a corrupt thing to do. Though I don’t think our Governor and Legislation need any more help showing us that.
FontanaConservative on May 22, 2009 at 10:59 AM
If you rob Peter to pay Paul, Paul never complaines…
Or for you:
If you rob the taxpayer to pay tommylotto, tommylotto never complaines.
right2bright on May 22, 2009 at 11:01 AM
I’d just love to see them try it. Sacramento is only a day’s drive for most people in the state, the Capitol would be flooded with pissed off homeowners demanding legislator blood.
I gotta admit, though, that I feel just a twang of sympathy for Arnold. He can’t cut state jobs and wages without pissing off the shrill unions, and he can’t raise taxes without pissing off everyone else.
The sad thing is that if the state only adopted the 2005 budget we’d have a substantial surplus.
TheMightyMonarch on May 22, 2009 at 11:02 AM
This seems to be part of a pattern. Barack Obama acknowledges reality at the last possible moment … and for as long as it is absolutely necessary.
This habit is disastrous in foreign policy, where you are dealing not with economic forces but with strategic actors.
njcommuter on May 22, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Not yet…but soon.
Voters have been proven to listen to what the President says, but not pay attention to what he does.
They might not call it a bailout, but California will be getting some money from your pocket sooner or later.
Asher on May 22, 2009 at 11:11 AM
They already own CA. Why pay for it twice? Now if it was a Red State, they’d get the money in exchange for handing over the keys.
TheBigOldDog on May 22, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Tommylotto, I think you’re missing the point. Those services are NOT available in other states. No where close. Yes, by all means use what is available to you there to your benefit, but why the hell should other taxpayers, outside CA, subsidize your services?
They absolutely should not, they are ovgerwhelmed paying for those services out of their own pocket for their own autistic kids.
ORconservative on May 22, 2009 at 11:17 AM
I don’t believe them. They feed off distress. The bailout will be reworded and slide in under cover of the next distraction.
sherry
Does Ogabe use a distraction wheel, with pictures of Rush, Cheney, Newt, Palin, etc. to make his choice or does he go hi-tech with a computer and randomizer function?
SKYFOX on May 22, 2009 at 11:18 AM
TARP has only one purpose: Increase Democrat Control! There is no need to TARP California, because they are well under Democrat Control. However, if other states not under Democrat Control need a bailout, watch out.
TMK on May 22, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Even further, tommylotto will find a way to justify it.
MarkTheGreat on May 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM
It depends on what you mean by “recovers.” If you mean, “when the annualized reduction in GDP drops below double-digits”, I hate to break it to you, but that won’t happen until everything Obama did in the last three months is reversed.
And that won’t happen while he is in office.
logis on May 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Can he just give California to a union?
capitalist piglet on May 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM
By the “economy recovers” he means that once they can get all the media outlets reporting recovery for 5 straight business days.
It will happen, soon. They’re organizing it now.
ORconservative on May 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM
You can take your entitled breederiffic mindset and shove it.
So you paid taxes and are happy to get some of that $ back. Big freaking whoop. I’ll never see a penny of the money I put into Social Security, and that’s just for starters.
Oh yes – and did I mention that Childfree people like me are SICK of paying for the decision of others to have kids? Why in the 7 levels of Dante’s Inferno do you feel like you need money taken from the populace at gunpoint, simply because you put two body parts together? Why can’t you raise your kids on your own bloody dime like countless generations before? Why do I have to pay for your speshul snowflake – especially when as others have demonstrated on this very thread that they can do just fine without government handouts?
Dark-Star on May 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Obama might be incompetent and naive, but the people pulling his strings aren’t stupid. They know damn well a California bailout(which in turn would lead to a New York bailout and a New Jersey bailout and so on…) would spark a revolution in this country. Perhaps a nonviolent one like the tea parties multiplied by 1000, but even the drive-bys would be hardpressed to spin it favorably.
Doughboy on May 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM
How long does it take TOTUS to change his mind?
N4646W on May 22, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Our Dear Leader will have his way.
Too bad there’s nowhere else to go to run from the coming tyranny.
spmat on May 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Do I have this right? PRCa goes belly up, so the Fed’s want to hold it up as a shining example and follow suit? Did I miss something here?
N4646W on May 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM
The Kalifornians moving out of there, would they vote for the same government in their new states? Like AZ, NV, ID, and others?
cjs1943 on May 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Asking the citizens of Iowa to pay a bailout to the RICHEST STATE IN THE UNION is way too easy to pillory.
So no significant money payment will take place here. The federal government will end up doing nothing but placing more controls on the California government, and abolishing many of the citizen’s rights in that state’s constitution.
Ahnold will whine once he figures out how completely screwed he is; but it won’t matter. This ain’t no investment bank here. A Socializing government is kinda like Tony Soprano – except with nuclear weapons.
What the deal lacks in formality, it more than makes up for in simplicity: Once you stick your hand out, he owns you, body and soul.
logis on May 22, 2009 at 11:38 AM
The other day someone posted a link to all the Ca Departments. There is no need to cut the essentials when there are so many unessential departments doing God only knows what.
I’m sick of having a gun held to my head. CA can raise taxes ’till the cows come home and it won’t be enough to educate all of central america. Yes, if a kid shows up to a school that child is taken in no questions asked…then the kid gets free breakfast, free lunch, free after school care and free medical and its parent’s don’t contribute a damn dime to the state or fed because they don’t make a declared wage and when they go to the store to buy something from their immigrant shop owner, lie the country they came from they don’t charge the sales tax. I was in Chinatown last week, saw a pair of sandals I liked, bought them and the chinese lady who sold them to me didn’t give me a receipt and put the cash in her pocket. I called the Board of Equalization and the guy I spoke to said they were overwhlemed trying to get people to remit the sales taxes. The guy told me his life was put in danger when the owner of a taco store came after him physically when he tried to tell him he was opearating illegally. THe owner didn’t pay his taxes and lost his permit! The guy from the Board told me he gets no support from the State in these cases and so he is frustrated. I actually felt sorry for him.
This country will be in the toilet but the end of Obama’s first term…and for those of you who haven’t figured it out…that is the point… we’ve been destroyed from within..
CCRWM on May 22, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Remember, everything that comes out of the affirmative action administration is a lie. EVERYTHING.
Expect bailout by July.
jukin on May 22, 2009 at 11:39 AM
I did not set up the State system. The budget was set in Sacramento. They hired the employees, and these employees are going to get paid whether my kid gets the services or some other kid gets them (legal or not). I certainly have paid more than my fair share of taxes into the state’s coffers. Of course, I oppose high taxes, large government, states bailouts, etc. But now that we live in this socialist utopia, I help pay for it, and my kid could use the services, am I suppose to deny my kid because of my political philosophy?
tommylotto on May 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM
We’ll see in 2010.
GarandFan on May 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Obama will give aid to California, but there’s no way it’ll be a straight-up bailout. He’ll have to come up with some sort of creative alternative, kinda like how they’re going after talk radio without reinstating the Fairness Doctrine.
Of course, once the rest of the country gets wind of the fact that California was bailed out in some fashion, Obama will be left with the same outcome. 49 pissed off states.
Doughboy on May 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Hussein has bigger plans for Cali,..ownership has a nice ring to it.,..he just wants the Terminator to beg more!!
christene on May 22, 2009 at 11:47 AM
You’re a nasty, ugly and cold person. I rather pay to help an autistic child then let it flounder and never become productive in society and then have to support it for life anyway.
I’m angry about many things but helping out special needs kids and their families isn’t one of them…
CCRWM on May 22, 2009 at 11:49 AM
We pay 173.00 per day per idiot in the congress. Let’s start there. It costs us 1.8 million PER representative and 2.4 per senator. I can think of some immmediate cuts.
Then, we are paying people to take care of their relatives. Remember the SIEU arm-twisting? That was whom the union protected from wage cuts. Family members staying at home with their relatives are home health care workers protected by the union.
Then while we rank 47th in per child education, we are paying my lovely friend summer school pay for……you ready? First graders. Yep.
Oh, wish to retire early? No problem. After 20 years, you get 90% of your retirement. But here’s the sweet part. You can just apply for a new job within the government and draw both! *whooopi!
I told you guys. Our tea parties were dead serious out here.
And yes, news media….now you understand why it WAS about taxes, you morons.
AnninCA on May 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM
The only circumstances where California will cut “real” spending, the size of the state government, employees, benefits and NOT receive a federal bailout is if a Depression ensues.
Currently we are in a severe recession that they hope will change with the trillions in bailout funds etc.
patrick neid on May 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Then move to Canada, socialist. And take the socialist speshul snowflakes with you.
TMK on May 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM
As was mentioned above, Gerald Ford was widely criticized for his initial decision not to bail out New York City with headlines like “Ford to New York: Drop Dead.”
Somehow, I don’t think we’ll get similar headlines unless the blame is shifted onto Geithner from Obama.
teke184 on May 22, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Yawn. One of the oldest bingos there is…can’t you come up with anything better?
Added the missing bit for you. Nice attempt at redirecting the argument, though.
Dark-Star on May 22, 2009 at 12:08 PM
One of the legitimate purposes of taxation and government spending is to promote the general welfare of the community. With no offense intended to the childless, their contribution to the community will only last seventy or so more years. Then their mark on the community end. They are a dead end. If you do not pro create and generate more productive members of society to stimulate the economy and pay taxes, YOU are an economic drain on the economy, and I have no qualms about an disproportionate share of government spending going to those involve in the actual perpetuation of the community, as oppose to a momentary blip.
tommylotto on May 22, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Ah yes, I wondered how long it would be before this came up. The second oldest (and second stupidest) bingo – if you’re not breeding and doing TMIJITW, you’re a ‘leech’. Because the only way to make a lasting contribution is to have kids.
Dark-Star on May 22, 2009 at 12:14 PM
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