GOP’s new favorite website: The Huffington Post
posted at 8:36 pm on May 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
Understandable yet repulsive. No political site has a greater reach (their traffic dwarfs ours) and, with the possible exception of TPM, no political site is read more avidly by a lefty media that’s already known to consume blogs mainly from their own side of the aisle. If you want to put your message out on the Internet, HuffPo’s the logical megaphone. Never mind that it’s one of the most rabidly liberal sites in America.
Needless to say, the thought of Republican congressmen asking a hard left site for access says all you need to know about how badly conservatives are trailing online right now despite certain people’s best efforts. Ahem.
Arianna Huffington, who co-founded the eponymous site four years ago this month, said that increased Republican engagement “is a reflection of our traffic, our brand, and the fact that we are increasingly seen … as an Internet newspaper, not positioned ideologically in terms of how we cover the news.”…
“HuffPo and [Talking Points Memo] really are the assignment editors for many in the Washington press corps — particularly the cables,” said Brian Rogers, who was a spokesman for Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign. “That’s not just a Republican hack saying it — that’s speaking as a press guy fielding calls and e-mails daily from the MSM that start with, ‘Did you see this thing on Huffington Post?’ They were effective and they wasted a lot of our time.”…
“The reality is that at the end of the day, like them or dislike them, sites like The Huffington Post, Plum Line, Salon, and others can drive news,” said Brad Dayspring, press secretary for Cantor. “For that reason alone, being responsive and even proactive — especially on wedge issues — has become more prevalent as political communications has evolved.”…
Even veterans of the conservative movement seem to want a piece of the liberal blog action.
Grover Norquist, President of Americans for Tax Reform, said that he’s been approached to write for The Huffington Post and intends to do so in the future. It can be useful, he said, as a way to turn the tables on Democrats who claim the Republicans aren’t offering any alternatives to their policy positions.
I’m torn about this. On the one hand, I don’t want to carry water for the GOP by lending them Hot Air’s platform. On the other hand, instead of playing ball with the left-wing press by posting only to the sites they frequent, Republicans could force them to broaden the scope of the sites they read by giving exclusives to righty blogs. Exit question: What’s an insecure blogger to do?
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Well, I don’t know if you’d call this a promise or empty, worthless words…
SUBJECT: Transparency and Open Government
My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:45 AM
Hope! Right now it is all just hopeful thinking.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:45 AM
Yeah, I know, I’m with you. Being a tad sarcastic earlier.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:46 AM
Reaching out to bullies only works in after-school specials. In the real world, it will just get you an atomic wedgie at recess.
That may explain some of Barry’s facial expressions and stammering.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:47 AM
Yeah, I think most people would prefer the Reagan way…
I like how you say National Defense instead of Offense. I think we got into shady areas when we started getting involved with say the Balkans…
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:47 AM
Yeah, but the sad thing is that Obama may have given Change, Hope, and Transparency bad names… fortunately he hasn’t used the R word too much (Reform)
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:49 AM
Under Barry, yes. But under Cheney, fighting AQ was a policy.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:50 AM
I like Pelosi, she is our leader, er speaker. She is mentally bankrupt and Kalifornia is financially bankrupt! We are so happy with our government. They can do no wrong.
Bluehanky on May 23, 2009 at 2:51 AM
The only reason AQ hasn’t attacked us is because they are like so totally not into it right now.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:43 AM
Arugula. It’s the arugula. I can feel it.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 2:52 AM
I agree. Now when it comes to some of the other Bushies, I don’t know what their policy was. I think Rumy could have done a heck of a lot better job, and I’m not comfortable with propping up Semi-Sharia gov’ts to fight the uber-Sharia gov’ts.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:52 AM
Yes, it is policy and practice now and then. I’m not saying W and Dick did not keep us safe, I am saying that his assertion can only be taken on ‘faith,’ without further information.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:52 AM
Nooooooo! Not the dreaded Arugula! Run for your lives!
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:53 AM
I think this is one of several reasons he is doing what he’s doing now. He realizes it may be up to him to defend his record, and try to convince people that he’s right.
Then there are the other reasons… I think one is to keep Obama on the defensive…
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:55 AM
See, I thought it was the Green Cars.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:56 AM
Maybe I’m getting too tired to think, but are you asserting that there may have been attacks to which we are not privvy? I’m honestly not understanding your line of thought here.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:56 AM
No, Pelosi is morally bankrupt, keep your terms straight.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:56 AM
Yes, as much as I hate to admit this, Pelosi does have half a cup of brain.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:57 AM
and to keep good people who had to do unpleasant things out of kangaroo court!
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:58 AM
And that. I think it’s his way of saying, if you are going to take out my guys, I’ll wipe your whole team out.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:59 AM
In the real world, if you haven’t the ability to fight back, and if nobody cares about you and nobody takes the fight to the bullies to stop them, then you really have no choice but to submit. Reaching out to bullies is a strategy to improve the conditions of your servitude when there is no other option. Of course, you can spit in their food you serve them, but that satisfaction is not very substantial.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 2:59 AM
Why don’t we have our own HUFFPOST?
therightwinger on May 23, 2009 at 3:00 AM
I am sure you are right on both counts, and I don’t blame him for trying to defend his record. It’s just that like all pols, he benefits from the fact that there are so many ‘known unknowns, and unknown unknowns.’ Because we don’t have clear and unequivocal answers, well, there’s always faith.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 3:00 AM
One is enough!
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 3:00 AM
If you put one in the back of your Hummer, can you still claim to be “driving” a green car (along with the kids and groceries)?
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 3:01 AM
Yep yep… I think in the end, America is going to have to just move forward and try to get out of this whole mess. That said, we should also look at some of the facts so we can be better prepared for the future.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 3:02 AM
Let’s ask Ahnold…
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 3:02 AM
Amen, and amen.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 3:04 AM
ROFLMAO!
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 3:04 AM
OK, my eyes are burning, and I got stuff to do tomorrow. ‘Nite, all.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 3:05 AM
Because we have integrity. Now go stand in the corner and think about what you’ve done;)
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 3:06 AM
Women are so emotional! It’s like they’re another species!
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 3:06 AM
Good night, pleasant dreams.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 3:07 AM
Well, lets not overdo the fairness!
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 3:07 AM
‘tah!
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 3:08 AM
As always, thanks for a very pleasant discussion. Thought and laughter provoking.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 3:08 AM
Yep. Now wait a minute, I’m no woman; I’m a broad. Big difference.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 3:09 AM
Women are a species? I was beginning to think they were a holographic figment of my fevered imagination. Wow. Where can I see some?
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 3:09 AM
That would be a different website…a much different website.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 3:11 AM
You are a very smart and tough cookie. Vitamin fortified. Sweet, but not syrupy. A little nutty, too. Just desserts.
Good night to you, and thanks for exchanging posts.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 3:12 AM
Thank you. I enjoyed your posts. Sleep well.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 3:14 AM
You remain a puzzle to me. Of course, so is nearly everything, but I do hope we can exchange posts again.
Until then, try to be good.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 3:16 AM
Oh the irony.
Connie on May 23, 2009 at 3:16 AM
Hawkdriver! Take food care of yourself and those in your company. Be of good spirits. I send you my best.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 3:20 AM
Thanks Lox. I hope to remain somewhat of a puzzle for the foreseeable future. Till then, I will try to be good.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 3:20 AM
Interview Megan McCain in your boxers while blushing.
- The Cat
MirCat on May 23, 2009 at 3:32 AM
It is my view that one cannot be overprotected, but one can be successfully protected.
OldEnglish on May 23, 2009 at 4:12 AM
WELCOME TO YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE NEOCONS!
BobAnthony on May 23, 2009 at 6:04 AM
Why doesn’t the Right have its own HuffPo?
Well those on the right tend to have:
1) Ethics,
2) Morals,
3) Standards.
Hey if you want to ditch those for page hits you, too, can start a HuffPo.
Believe me, if your self-esteem as a blogger depends on page hits, then you really are going to have to lose those items… but then you are going to join the Left not be an advocate for those things.
Luckily there are other reasons to blog that don’t depend on page hits. You may not be read, but if that isn’t part of the equation as to why you blog, then it doesn’t matter.
ajacksonian on May 23, 2009 at 7:02 AM
Embrace it AP, and get those republicans to post links back to HA. We may win a few independents the lefty trolls will get frustrated by the closed enrollment for comments and leave with spittle on their monitors. It’s a win win!
conservnut on May 23, 2009 at 7:17 AM
It’s the cause, not the effect.
Eventually botox seeps into your brain (proven fact). I wonder how much longer before it hits her brainstem and makes it shut down completely?
Squiggy on May 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM
Why go anywere else, you can get all the Palin bashing right here.
KBird on May 23, 2009 at 8:04 AM
Idk
I tend to think hot air is doing great
Some have written about huge revamping. This is not needed.
blatantblue on May 23, 2009 at 8:23 AM
Bring more haiku!!
Maybe a slightly new design
But in accordance with this ones style.
blatantblue on May 23, 2009 at 8:25 AM
One more thing
someone mentioned having think tank biatches writing here
i say “yea!”
idk, you could have, say, michael cannon from CATO to write about healthcare.
you could have ryan mauro to write stuff about nat sec. from time to time
cross post a spencer post? (where’d his Qur’an blogging go?)
have sex pert do a post every week? ok thats too much
blatantblue on May 23, 2009 at 8:42 AM
BTW — Lox you gotta get to bed earlier.
blatantblue on May 23, 2009 at 8:45 AM
The only republican quoted is the ‘highly successful’ mouthpiece for Sen. McCain’s Presidential campaign, and we know how that went don’t we? One has to wonder whether this is just another indication of McCain’s sympathies with the democraps.
eaglewingz08 on May 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM
Allahpundit, it sounds as though you plan to post for Huffington as well as for Malkin.
You’re not speaking for the politicians, but for yourself. Why does it sound as if you’re begging for an excuse to get on the blue bandwagon next to McCain?
Conservatives blogging @ Huffpo better assume the stance of missionaries of charity with no expectations to be dashed. Answer the call if you feel it. Just realize what’s in store, as no good deed goes unpunished. Nothing but grief, casting pearls before swine.
Progressives, however, are the “other” on the other hand.
No surprise.
Being all things to all people means being nothing to anyone, a political survivalist rule of thumb, hiding in the cracks.
Matthew 7:13
Has Arianna propositioned Allahpundit, and what has Michelle Malkin to say on the subject? Dialogue is always interesting; but being heard over the mob is more than a challenge. It’s not as if you don’t know that going into the Huffpo Colosseum.
Liberals require more than either TLC or jolts to achieve their awakening.
It isn’t the Gospel, but the Constitution that conservatives fight to preserve for posterity. There are words from the wise that bear remembering so as to avoid the vane effort to re-invent the wheel as a so-called bipartisan uno party progressive.
Matthew 5:13
Luke 8
Matthew 12
You can’t fool those who’ve seen it all before, regardless of political persuasion.
Testing the water. Exactly what is your goal and do you have the guts to admit it? Changing horses midstream as a matter of convenient prosperity, saying anything for applause, if the shoe fits, wear it.
I could well be mistaken, projecting what I’ve seen before on what is occurring. But so it seems.
$.02 whatever
maverick muse on May 23, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Morons need not imply that conservative Christians do not fight to preserve the Gospel.
But conservatives come in all creeds, and in the US Constitution are allied.
maverick muse on May 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM
The lengthy citation that you provide re the conflict between the tribal mindset and the individual’s one shows how much the hard Left in its collectivism is like radical Islam.
onlineanalyst on May 23, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Exit answer: Stay the course?
locomotivebreath1901 on May 23, 2009 at 10:32 AM
I used to be able to post on Huff’n'Puff post, and had been able to for over a year. Just recently I logged in and was told I was disabled from posting.
I was more respectful and less crude to those I disagreed with than at least 80% of the posters there. So yeah, I’m guessing they are trying to control what “free flow of ideas” is on their site.
ynot4tony2 on May 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Well, I don’t know if you’d call this a promise or empty, worthless words…
SUBJECT: Transparency and Open Government
My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:45 AM
*
Anyone who doesn’t admit that Obama is the out and out chronic liar that he is, is stupid or dishonest themselves.
marklmail on May 23, 2009 at 10:56 AM
The only thing HuffPo does is really monitor the comments. I saw a couple of posts by Hillary in the primary, but those disappeared. Arianna is lying here. Her blog is not only liberal, but she’s dedicated to her own agenda.
I can’t imagine how allowing anyone a “guest” article could mean you’re carrying water.
But, hey….just my 2 cents.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM
A Conservative blogger posting on HuffPo would be like Liz Cheney guesting on MSNBC. Enter at your own risk. You are target practice.
kingsjester on May 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM
I post there. Don’t know why they let me. *haha
Maybe I’m good for stirring up postings, since I rarely agree with the “progressives.” It still rather galls me to see that they consider themselves that. They are as nasty as far-right types who compare everything they disagree with to Nazis.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM
It’s called The Fox Nation!
YYZ on May 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I suppose someone could imitate HuffPo on the conservative side.
It’s would require some money, though.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Betcha Rush would contribute generously, and anonymously.
Come to think of it, you’d probably get support from a whole bunch on talk radio hosts. Michelle might assemble a team of them for such a project.
petefrt on May 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM
So all the traffic Huffington gets is from Registered Voting Americans? Whats the break down, how many hits does the site get say from Canada or Valenzuela? So the Republican Party wants to reach out to the French who read Huffington Post?
The Republicans need a blitz, plant some seeds, add some water $$$ and see which one of many start up blogs appeals the most to people…Then Kick em up a notch with a Kool Marketing Campaign. Why would anyone want to plant a Conservative Seed on Huffington Post it would only attract Trolls – are they an undeserved demographic? How many Trolls are American Citizens who Vote Republican? Sure it might increase Huffington’s traffic is that the point?
The Republicans need to hire some good Marketers.
Now I am a Conservative, and Independent, NO way am I patronizing Huffington. Not interested, I would rather live in the dark.
Dr Evil on May 23, 2009 at 11:25 AM
It would also require someone with ambition to pull it off. It’s a lot of work! Arianna actually decides on every major headline.
She’s very involved, in short.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Is that the HuffPo format? I’ve posted at Fox Nation a few times, but it takes them so long to moderate the comments that there’s no near real time dialog, as there is here. By the time the post shows up, I’ve all but lost interest in adding more to the thread.
petefrt on May 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Huffington Post is, definitely, leading the way on new media methods. No doubt about that.
The conservative blogs are still quite behind in that field. And this IS an awfully good time to take back a bit of power over media. If the conservatives fail to do so, then they can’t continue to complain about the press.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM
No, the implication was that Fox News provides the same slant.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Actually, the implication was that Fox Nation sucks.
Say what you want about HuffPo (and everyone here pretty much has), but at least there is some original stuff done there. With all the resources of News Corp., all Fox Nation is is a bunch of links to articles attached to usually misleading headlines.
But HuffPo’s comment boards are not that hot either. I hate to say this, but DailyKos figured out the best way to organize a very long message board.
YYZ on May 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Sometimes, it’s about the ideas, not the numbers. That’s why Ed’s analysia is picked up by Rush, and your Meghan drivel gets lost.
Right_of_Attila on May 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Really? I never have gone there. It doesn’t make sense to me, format-wise.
Ariana is dumping some money into actual reporter salaries, so there is some original stuff. Her leads into new articles aren’t as good as Hot Air’s. There’s virtually nothing but a headline intro. It’s a link deal strictly.
And then she has the guest commentators feed in articles that I wouldn’t pay 10 cents for. I suspect she doesn’t pay them, either. She shouldn’t. It’s usually mostly ego-driven posts.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:45 AM
I do admit I was surprised by the lack of good conservative sites.
This is the best of the bunch.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:51 AM
I do admit I was surprised by the lack of good conservative sites.
This is the best of the bunch.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Maybe this is the feedback they need? Maybe our brains are being picked :)
Dr Evil on May 23, 2009 at 12:00 PM
So far, there is no ideological litmus test at Hot Air for the right to post. That’s why. And I hope there never is such a test.
You stay on topic and your posts are rational, at least so far. Perhaps I’m mistaken, but your views appear to be more aligned with traditional liberalism, which is far different than today’s brand.
There is some overlap between conservative, libertarian and traditional liberal views. Where we can be in alliance, you will make a good contribution. I hope you will seek opportunities for such agreements. But when you must disagree, please do. So far, I have read no nastiness from you. As long as this is the case, your disagreements will still be a contribution.
If we are to make a conservative-libertarian alliance that can achieve a nationwide electoral victory based on unifying principles, there will be some screamers and bigots that come along for the ride. But there will also be people who might normally vote Democrat that are very worried about the current dangerous policies being pursued by that party. That may well include you or others like you.
Of course, in response to your unusual views, you will be ignored, debated, or thrashed about and called a host of names. Just as is done between members of the various camps on the right. We are a such difficult bunch to herd. But as long as you continue to respond as a thoughtful lady with a different opinion, you will find a niche here. That’s my guess.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 12:26 PM
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Write your understanding of “progressive” as it appears yours is yet the naive traditional dictionary understanding, not acknowledging the American version of Marxism from the early 20th Century onward in politics.
Marxists hijacked language in order to use pretty words to cover ugly reality: it sells, and that is the prerequisite of propaganda.
maverick muse on May 23, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Huffpuff would have huge numbers. Liberals need someone to talk to who agrees with them completely on heavy issues. They are isolated unto themselves and 30 percent of 300 million is a lot of folk. Plus wealthy liberals think like poor liberals, except they have mexican gardeners
Conservatives are divided between working conservatives who want the government to support the bill of rights and not soak them, and a group of wealthy conservatives who want the government to keep out of their money flow. The globalist conservatives and progressives despise the libertarian, religious worker conservatives. The wealthy elitist conservatives spend a lot of their energy and money trying to contain the ambitions of the other group.
A large part of commentary on the subsidized conservative web sites is spent beating up the base for not obeying. That discourages dialogue.
I don’t look at huffpro numbers as bad. A consistent enemy is easier to vanquish although it takes a healthy opponent. IMHO, the elitist/progressive movement has empowered liberals by wasting time trying to change conservatives into RINOs.
On the other hand, if you want some bucks right now, convert and go liberal. The money men in the RINO-RNC will do everything to keep a base-line conservative poor
entagor on May 23, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Thank you, Lox. I have figured out this much. I am a traditional liberal.
I guess we’re a true minority in this new age.
AnninCA on May 23, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Yes, you are. I do appreciate your compassion for others that underlies much of you political ideology. I too feel very compassionate. The problem that traditional liberals and compassionate conservatives have is with pragmatism. The best compassion is done freely, person to person. When government does it, the compassion most often turns into a smothering blanket. Now, keep posting. You do stir things up!
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Conservative, libertarian and traditional liberal views share the ideal of individualism and indiividual freedom/responsibility. As a libertarian-conservative, I consider classic liberals my ally (and progressives as my collectivist, totalitarian enemy). My hope is the electorate will realign as you suggest, into individualist versus collectivist camps.
petefrt on May 23, 2009 at 1:12 PM
And just how do we individualists form into a mass movement?
That’s a tough one.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:15 PM
I cringe every time I venture over to Huffpo. Finally gave up trying to post over there as my comments never get posted.
redridinghood on May 23, 2009 at 1:15 PM
In a sense, it’s almost a contradiction in terms, isn’t it.
I believe you’re correct that there are a growing number of Democrats who are increasingly uneasy about the progressivist takeover of their party… and our country.
petefrt on May 23, 2009 at 1:21 PM
The Godfather of American Liberalism: H.G. Wells, novelist, historian, authoritarian, anticapitalist, eugenicist, and advisor to presidents
Fred Siegel, City Journal
maverick muse on May 23, 2009 at 1:28 PM
That’s funny. Because you weren’t around here back when they had the Hot Air vid’s, MKH, KP, and other guest video bloggers. You weren’t around here when this place had some kick and took chances and went out onto the streets. Now, you are here and it’s nothing but atheist related posts and cop-hate videos and silly stuff that really has nothing to do with where we need to go from here and what we can do to get there. With the exception of a few posts now and then.
Yet, you’re content in being snarky and you tell me that if I want ‘monolithic’, I should go elsewhere. Funny, that. Because this site is more monolithic in its content and far more snarky now than it has ever been at any other time.
SilverStar830 on May 23, 2009 at 2:25 PM
The last time, I went to Huff po, liberals even after winning this last election, were going off, right,and left, on a thread. The context of the thread, was doing away with Republicans, and conservatives. And I don’t mean off their site.
That was all I needed, and I never went back. Vicious, vile, mean, people post there, and Ariana is fine with that. She loves it. That in my opinion, taints her, as a reporter, and leaves her no credibility. Especially when a friend of mine went, and posted on the previous mentioned thread, and because of their conservative views, were banned.
Don’t feel insecure, Allah. Word is getting out. I’ve already invited many of my friends, to come here, and read. I’m sure they’d love to comment, but in time, I’m sure you’ll open that up again, and I’ll try and let them know, when you do.
Anyone, that wants to hang around, such a site, is welcome to, but I can’t stand all the ugly that goes on there.
capejasmine on May 23, 2009 at 2:47 PM
That would be a meaningful statement if the Democrats were making that claim in good faith. They aren’t. They don’t have to. There isn’t a news organization, besides Fox maybe, that even makes an effort to fact-check the Democrats’ assertions.
spmat on May 23, 2009 at 3:16 PM
By moving in the same direction.
Chaz706 on May 23, 2009 at 3:53 PM
That means focusing on the issues which unite us, and advancing them, while agreeing to disagree, as amicably as possible on all other issues.
Yes? No? Suggestions?
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Precisely.
I look at 1776 as a prime example. That’s where I do most of my thinking on the subject.
The colonies couldn’t agree on much. At some point, they couldn’t agree on unity to fight the British Empire.
But when push came to shove, they moved in the same direction and beat the Brits (granted, I seriously think that the entire American Revolution was an act of God, but that required effort on our part too).
The simplest way to put it Loxodonta is this: you have 13 individuals in an elevator. Are they necessarily a group?
Now halfway between floors the elevator stops. Are they a group now? Is that a guaranteed certainty? If they do become a group, what would they have to have done to become such?
Chaz706 on May 23, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Perhaps the prime issue of today is thus: If a government is big enough to give you everything, it’s powerful enough to take it away.
If all this spending really does come to pass, weather it works or not, Government will have the right to intrude on all aspects of life at some point. You could extend this to the GM/Chrysler Debacle (Sanctity of Contracts is a huge issue in and of itself, perhaps the largest I’ve seen so far. Perhaps Government will now dictate what car you drive, or if you drive at all). Supreme Court nominations (Rule of Law vs. Rule of Men. There’s a prime issue in and of itself again.). Socialized health care (a matter of life and death if there was one in a modern age). I could go on and on. There are plenty of examples (and I invite others to bring up as many as possible, as sort of a list of crimes against the Obama Administration–please link to or cite examples).
One thing we must keep note of is this: the Revolution began with a very small minority that was vocal enough on sound enough principles. We must find our principles and stand on them, or nothing else matters.
I’ve drawn a few, now lets get moving in that direction shall we?
Chaz706 on May 23, 2009 at 4:07 PM
I’m now permanently banned from from posting on Arianna Huffington’s HUFFPO website. I made the mistake of directly copying posts from rabid lefties ranting against everyone from Bush to Cheney to Sarah Palin, and then simply changed the names in these rants to my favorite liberal whipping-boys, BHO, Biden and Pelosi. Naturally, since I wasn’t towing the lunatic left party line, they didn’t just ignore my post, they banned me from posting under the three aliases I used, and have now blocked my IP address.
Wow, that ditzy Greek skank and her jack-booted censor goons are soooooooo tolerant of contradictory opinions.
StimulateTHIS on May 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM
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