GOP’s new favorite website: The Huffington Post
posted at 8:36 pm on May 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
Understandable yet repulsive. No political site has a greater reach (their traffic dwarfs ours) and, with the possible exception of TPM, no political site is read more avidly by a lefty media that’s already known to consume blogs mainly from their own side of the aisle. If you want to put your message out on the Internet, HuffPo’s the logical megaphone. Never mind that it’s one of the most rabidly liberal sites in America.
Needless to say, the thought of Republican congressmen asking a hard left site for access says all you need to know about how badly conservatives are trailing online right now despite certain people’s best efforts. Ahem.
Arianna Huffington, who co-founded the eponymous site four years ago this month, said that increased Republican engagement “is a reflection of our traffic, our brand, and the fact that we are increasingly seen … as an Internet newspaper, not positioned ideologically in terms of how we cover the news.”…
“HuffPo and [Talking Points Memo] really are the assignment editors for many in the Washington press corps — particularly the cables,” said Brian Rogers, who was a spokesman for Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign. “That’s not just a Republican hack saying it — that’s speaking as a press guy fielding calls and e-mails daily from the MSM that start with, ‘Did you see this thing on Huffington Post?’ They were effective and they wasted a lot of our time.”…
“The reality is that at the end of the day, like them or dislike them, sites like The Huffington Post, Plum Line, Salon, and others can drive news,” said Brad Dayspring, press secretary for Cantor. “For that reason alone, being responsive and even proactive — especially on wedge issues — has become more prevalent as political communications has evolved.”…
Even veterans of the conservative movement seem to want a piece of the liberal blog action.
Grover Norquist, President of Americans for Tax Reform, said that he’s been approached to write for The Huffington Post and intends to do so in the future. It can be useful, he said, as a way to turn the tables on Democrats who claim the Republicans aren’t offering any alternatives to their policy positions.
I’m torn about this. On the one hand, I don’t want to carry water for the GOP by lending them Hot Air’s platform. On the other hand, instead of playing ball with the left-wing press by posting only to the sites they frequent, Republicans could force them to broaden the scope of the sites they read by giving exclusives to righty blogs. Exit question: What’s an insecure blogger to do?
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No, you are intelligent, compassionate, and are a decent human being,………..
………. but please provide just one example that Leftist Liberal Democrats treat anyone with respect that oppose them.
Seven Percent Solution on May 23, 2009 at 1:20 AM
Okay, ‘go for it’. You’re smarter, and probably casting Pearls Before Swine………
Janos Hunyadi on May 23, 2009 at 1:21 AM
I don’t agree with bigots. I definitely don’t enjoy being around them. However, if they want to vote with me, I’m not going to stop them.
No, as of now, you aren’t from another planet, but you might be sent to Janet’s detention planet… :)
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:22 AM
ooooooooh, aaaaaah, oh. Oh yeah, that was good.
*happy sigh* Thanks, I needed that.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 1:22 AM
Entertaining……….
………. isn’t it?
Seven Percent Solution on May 23, 2009 at 1:23 AM
Bishop can play with me anytime. I got it down pat.
america does not torture
wake up cons
pelosi speaks the truth
all is well
It’s sort of like Sufi-Zen Koan style.
But a bit more inane.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:23 AM
“he’s been approached”
Who wants whom?
notropis on May 23, 2009 at 1:24 AM
:>
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 1:24 AM
Nailed it!
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 1:26 AM
Certainly. Just give me a few years.
Can hum a few bars? That might help me remember.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:26 AM
“Solve” ? This is HuffPo Logic: No examples are given, no specifics, with only a Dummy Code for getting rid of private enterprise and supplanting it with
ALL NPR, ALL THE TIME
no ‘corporate news’ there…….
“where the news is actually the news” is a classic HuffPo mix of jibberish and juvenile leftism
Janos Hunyadi on May 23, 2009 at 1:26 AM
More private competition, less government control, please.
Of all sectors of the economy, communication should be the least regulated.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:28 AM
Well what ever planet you are from I think you always have well thought out posts. So it must be a good planet.
I agree with what you said Michelle said. I really think there is so much more that we agree on in the party but lately it seems to have devolved into name calling. And making up new names to call others.
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 1:29 AM
What about Kristen Powers?
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:31 AM
Awesome! Thanks, Ed, though I hope you’re enjoying your vacation rather than reading this….
FloatingRock on May 23, 2009 at 1:31 AM
So, I take it you like the extreme influence that Rupert and George exert over media outlets by way of financial leverage?
You must therefore agree that plastering “Bo” all over the newspapers for a week was great reporting, in that it both sold extra papers and certainly informed the electorate on an important issue.
Is that what you are saying?
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 1:32 AM
Yes, and I have mixed feelings too. There has been such excess in favor of individual rights and no individual sacrifice, that it’s a large factor in pulling the nation apart. Unfair to some individuals — yes, but how about what is best for the governance and preservation of a great nation?
Along similar lines, term limits isn’t about “fairness” to politicians.
Feedie on May 23, 2009 at 1:33 AM
I hate bigots and black people and anyone who kinda sounds jewish.
2Tru2Tru on May 23, 2009 at 1:37 AM
The trolls, I almost always ignore, but I’ve lost my temper with a few of the posters here. Some are bigots. Some are just bullies. I get angry because I see them driving wedges in the base and driving away potential allies. Lately, I’ve been trying to ignore them until I can come up with a better strategy of dealing with them.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:37 AM
I wouldn’t say there has been an excess on individual rights. For example, the way the unions are now more then ever being encouraged to organize the vote. No, I’d call it more pandering to special interest groups. In the end, these special interest groups end up with the fewest individual rights (mostly because of who they vote for). I also don’t see how forcing one to register themselves directly at a county office is unfair. It’s very fair. Everyone is held to the same standard. What is unfair is running around trying to register the lazy people that will vote for your man, but not finding the lazy people that won’t vote for your man.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:38 AM
Communication is the least regulated, and should remain so. But it is the influence of a very small number of very large corporate interests that is leading to a homogenization of news sources, and therefore of the informative value they bring.
The gov’t has very little say in what makes the news, and rightly so. Bush had little because he was hated, Obama has more because he is worshipped, but in general gov’t has little real power over the media.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 1:39 AM
Ah, yes, I know the group you are referring to. I think there are really two groups. One is the upset group that is just trying to vent – and they do so in an immature, ignorant manner. The other is a bunch of real true bigots that know exactly what they are doing.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:40 AM
I must confess that THAT is fun.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 1:40 AM
No TV. I’ve only encountered her writings a few times, but you may be correct. But is she a “Leftist” or more of a traditional or classical liberal. There is a big difference.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:40 AM
It looks like someone to be unnamed up the thread a little ways does not want to join our conversation anymore………
Seven Percent Solution on May 23, 2009 at 1:43 AM
Look, there are always going to be some problems, but right now we see some of the traditional news sources struggling to survive. News Papers are dieing more or less. The networks are struggling. And cable is trying to find it’s place. The bad is that some are evolving into celebrity gossip news sources – but then, I guess there is a demand for it (which means our society needs to be better educated). You also get more extreme opinionated commentators – but again, if it sells, someone must want to watch it.
The good news is that we are seeing some reasonable news sources kinda-sorta emerging online. I think if the gov’t stays out of any bail-outs, we might see more.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:44 AM
Laura in Maryland I would love to see principled candidates in both parties and your ideas are excellent.
However, I think that the GOP’s need list (as Rush said) begins with a fall from grace by The One ( I dare not say fail). If his dilettante socialism actually works, we are in for a heapin’ helpin’ of it for decades. And if the congress reins him in, it may be enough to keep us in a sluggish economy and a slowly deteriorating world situation for his entire term. First, the MSM would continue to blame the economy on President Bush and not the higher taxes, spiraling energy costs and government entitlements that will be laid upon the economy like a milestone. Second, you have no doubt noticed the nascent trend to forget about liberty, peaceful intentions toward the US and even the most basic human values as criteria for evaluating foreign governments. So who cares which forces triumph in the era of a weak USA?
The mess President Bush left behind may be nothing compared to the nightmate world The One is creating for us.
IlikedAUH2O on May 23, 2009 at 1:45 AM
I understand, and am worried about that issue as well. But I have no government solution to this problem that is not worse than the problem. I’m open to ideas, though.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:45 AM
Eh, I don’t think she qualifies as a classical liberal. Here’s what Wiki has. She’s left of center, that’s for sure.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:46 AM
I’ve experienced that with a few people with whom I agree. Some of the social issue zealots get so worked up that I wonder if they are plants from HuffPo sent here to make us look bad.
Reason and information goes a lot farther in changing hearts and minds than does a bunch of chest thumping and screeching. It is a shame they haven’t figured it out.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 1:48 AM
I doubt there is a ‘government’ solution to the problem. I believe there is a free-market solution. I don’t know just what that may be; just venting my frustration on the current state.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 1:48 AM
There are actually rather few people in the nutroots. The problem is that poll respondents will say they favor this or that (and indeed most people have a non-leftist POV)…but they can be bought…and Dems are there with the benes.
So you may report that you think the government will provide poorer health care than the private sector, but you also a member of the teacher’s union. So you vote to get yourself a raise.
This is done over and over with the Left….they are only about power, nothing else. The trolls are fools.
r keller on May 23, 2009 at 1:48 AM
No, Lox, you had the solution above. You mentioned that education is key. I think you were spot on. A well educated (notice I didn’t say well-informed) population will demand better information. I’m not suggesting we make everyone into Rocket Scientists, but teach people to think for themselves instead of in a collective.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:49 AM
Yeah well someone called me a troll the other day and others invited me to leave the party. I was on the ballot last election for a minor position as a Republican but my views are too liberal? I’m not the real Republican but the others who aren’t nearly as involved are? That just makes me angry.
One person’s troll may be another person’s ally.
I agree with getalife being a pain. But really I’d rather keep the naysayers around they make good foils.
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 1:49 AM
Let me guess… Jenfidel? She can be on the war path quite a bit.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:50 AM
Thanks. I don’t mind disagreements, even if they get heated. I like learning about and exploring different ideas and opinions. I learn this way. I like diversity of ideas.
Yet, at the same time, I would like to help forge a majority vote on some major problems. And i can’t blame some people for only willing to compromise so far, or even not at all, on some issues. I too have principles that I will not compromise.
But how to assemble that majority to save our country from economic disaster and a major terror strike, I don’t know.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 1:51 AM
It says a lot about a woman when she can driver her husband into the arms of a man. Though only the left sees that as desirable.
jdkchem on May 23, 2009 at 1:51 AM
The only thing I can think of is my son having “sleepy dreamies…”
……… good night all.
And to all our sevice men and women all over the world,
Thank You For My Freedom and have a Happy Memorial Day Weekend!!!
Seven Percent Solution on May 23, 2009 at 1:51 AM
I agreed with you about that. This one thing would deter a lot of vote fraud too. I guess what I meant about the rights part is people are voting for things out of selfishness or to feel good, because it’s been so long since there’s been any real consequences for it. That may be ending anyway. I still pray for a soft landing.
Feedie on May 23, 2009 at 1:52 AM
I can agree there. It may be that the ‘internets’ have come along at just the right time, when we need new sources of info, sources we can pick and choose from. We get to educate ourselves that way, not be spoon fed.
I grew up on Walter Cronkite, and I haven’t found anyone since that has had both the gravitas and the cojones he did.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 1:53 AM
g’nite
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:53 AM
Right on, right on.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 1:54 AM
No and I guess I’d rather not say. It embarrasses me. And I decided I was pretty stupid. I think I need to stay off the Palin threads.
I’ve been on the war path against terms like RINO lately. It is just so elitist to claim your brand is so much better than everyone else’s.
So I probably made someone mad with that.
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 1:55 AM
Yeah, I don’t like it when people vote for these reasons, but I’m convinced that if someone actually got a message about individualism out there, people would want to rally behind this. There would be those that wouldn’t, but then it would be easier for us to spot the real progressives amongst us…
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:56 AM
People who think and reason (or at least I try ;-)) come to all kinds of different conclusions. Don’t mind heated debates at all, with intellectually honest people. Like John Stewart, the trolls can’t mask themselves for long.
Feedie on May 23, 2009 at 1:57 AM
Hehe… Hey, I’m all for tolerating moderate republicans so long as they tolerate me. If they can’t, then surely they must be RINOs… Don’t worry, I got called a troll by Jenfidel. I think someone called Blatantblue a troll, right, Lox?
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:59 AM
Thanks. I’m with you, but I have the feeling that even if nukes were raining on us from Iran and N. Korea, the MSM would spin it as new allies surrendering their weapons to The One. Style pages would list radiation poising as “the new black” – it goes with everything.
Even if/when he fails, they will never report it, and if they do they will blame of Republican roadblocks for any problems they cannot pin on Booosh. We have to get out there and do some ‘splainin every time Obama wants a new program. Cheney did a great job of pulling the rug out from Barry’s Gitmo speech. We need to do this every time Obama opens his mouth.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 1:59 AM
The fact that any of us would even consider any requirement for voting is what makes us Republicans.
Democrats aren’t going to even let us ask of ID! So a test would be discrimination.
And frankly a voting test does have a history of that in the south. You really can’t ignore the history of testing it was used to keep blacks from voting.
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 1:59 AM
Yeah, I’m still waiting for it to be “official” that Colbert is in fact NOT a republican. I’m shocked at how many people on the left don’t think we know this.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:00 AM
Kept Obama from taking over another car company.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:01 AM
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 1:59 AM
The thing is I consider myself–I live my life so conservatively! It blows my mind that anyone could consider me anything but conservative…
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 2:01 AM
I know this will not be popular, but I would encourage you to read some of the fact-checking done after ‘Dick’ spoke. It will definitely sound lefty or biased to you, but you should do it anyway. Keep educated. Trying to remember sources…
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:03 AM
Perhaps such tests were used to keep blacks away, but who’s tactics where those?
Further, if there are doubts, we should have a national debate about it. No, that doesn’t mean Arianna Huffington gets to write an OpEd in the safety of her own site and Michelle Malkin goes on Fox and Friends. It should be held on all of the major networks with the leaders of the movements – Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarians, Greens, &c.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:04 AM
…and there was great rejoicing! Let the Ford Co. say AMEN.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:05 AM
Often people will throw around labels just to silence you… Isn’t that what they do with Teabaggers?
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:05 AM
Yeah Cheney was great. I wrote a couple of haikus… I was considering looking up the requirements for a sonnet… 14 lines… rhyming scheme…
Ode To Dick Cheney
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 2:05 AM
Recently I had one of my very few person-to-person contacts since the inauguration. It required a long ride and the person talked a mile a minute.
At first I was told how terrible the economy was. When I got a word in about how the only sector that seemed to be growing was government, I was told that we need bigger government during times like these to help people.
And then we got on a highway that was undergoing “improvements,” with little crews of workers and their police details standing around, doing nothing, every few miles. So, the talk changed to all the wasteful spending the government does on such things.
As we arrived at our destination, I was never able to point out that much of the expansion of government was EXACTLY for the types of projects being called wasteful during the ride. But on the ride back, I did hear how wonderful Obama was, over and over and over again.
So, I was left with that alien from another planet feeling again.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 2:06 AM
Here’s a start
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:07 AM
Perhaps, but clearly Cheney made some remarks that irked Obama. He clearly drew Obama into a fight, and Obama took the bait. Further, we should give Cheney credit for at least attempting to have a “rational” discussion – this coming from someone that was completely against Cheney a few days ago. Now, I have to give him some credit for sticking with his story and not just running around ranting.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:07 AM
I’m with you, my husband and I have had this conversation. You see those Jay-walking people on Leno. And you think that person’s vote counts as much as mine. It is ridiculous!
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 2:08 AM
Amen.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:08 AM
Hahaha
I can totally sympathize.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:09 AM
Condi’s father was turned away from registering to vote when he couldn’t pass the test by guessing “how many beans are in the jar”. Guess which party pulled that one. An elder in his church told him to register Republican instead, and sure enough he was able to register without a problem. You’ve got to love those
empathetic Dems.Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:10 AM
Ah… but as of now, their vote does…
HAHA!
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:10 AM
Fair ’nuff. I really really liked Dick when he was HW’s SecDef. I felt the same early on in W’s administration, but after 9/11 he seemed to go a bit dark and scared. I have to think he is still suffering the after effects, and not necessarily to the good.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:11 AM
So you think you can trust the MSM to “fact check” Cheney? No thanks. They are the same people pushing that Pelsoi is not really lying.
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 2:11 AM
I want the memos declassified. Cheney wouldn’t say they validate his position only to have Obama call his bluff. So I want someone to get that done.
If Cheney is lying let the chips fall where they may. But if he isn’t… chips should fall for either side.
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 2:14 AM
I like the way Dick Cheney debates and gives speeches. I like the way he thinks. That said, I am unsure about his possible love of Big Brother the Protector. I’m not a fan of the “We must prop of the dictators so the worse dictators don’t take over.” Yeah, it was used in the past, but it doesn’t mean it’s ideal; however, he really doesn’t speak so much on such issues, so it’s hard to peg him down.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Agreed. This might be one of the first transparent things done in a long time.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:15 AM
I agree Cheney did get sort of dark after that hunting accident and he became a national joke. Prideful man I think.
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 2:15 AM
Tolerance must always be a two way street, you RINO!
And that blatantblue exchange was hilarious. I nearly choked several times. He was also accused of being Allahpundit!
Allahpundit is a shapechanger, you know. From another universe. Very devious. Gotta keep an eye on him at all times. Did you know that he isn’t a real Christian?
Shocking! But true.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 2:16 AM
Well I need to go. Thanks for the discussion.
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 2:16 AM
Funny how things change over time. It took a dem President (Johnson) to overcome Southern Dems filibuster that got the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:16 AM
No way. He seems so religious! Now really good-night!
petunia on May 23, 2009 at 2:17 AM
Haha… I think this applies to Sen. Graham very well…
+1
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:18 AM
‘nite
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:18 AM
When Obama’s own intelligence guy admits that useful information was gleaned, and no one can prove that terrorist have attacked us since 9/11, I’m good.
Besides, I don’t want to misuse the MSM’s time. They still have several Palin children left to investigate.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:19 AM
Is Politico MSM? Regardless, the better ones give references you can track down.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:19 AM
The problem is consolidation. We are spread too thin. The right could group together its best and brightest in one place instead of spreading them out over many sites like Big Hollywood, Right Wing News, Michelle Malkin, Daily Gut, Jim Treacher, Power Line, Moonbattery, Ace of Spades, Gateway Pundit, American Thinker, Patterico’s Pontifications, IMAO, etc etc etc
They need a rich power broker who can bring everyone together, form a company that includes partial ownership to members, and create one supremely influential site with brilliant writers that put HuffPo to shame.
Speaking with many small voices creates incoherent noise, while speaking as one powerful voice comes in loud and clear.
Stickeehands on May 23, 2009 at 2:19 AM
Eh, good question. I think they offer a good source of news and often break news no matter what. That said, I always feel as though they are leaning left on opinion pieces. Plus there’s Wuerking…
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:22 AM
Well, the HuffPost was originally funded by a gay Republican…
TexasJew on May 23, 2009 at 2:24 AM
I have no doubt that the Bush administration made mistakes in the War on Terror.
The thing is, we haven’t been attacked since. For that, I will always be grateful to Bush, his administration, the staff in intelligence, and all members of the armed forces, most especially those who gave their lives for our safety.
I am simply unwilling to jeopardize those gains, and dishonor those sacrifices. Therefore, an examination of any errors should be for making improvements to our safety and reducing risks to our troops, NOT for the cheap political games being undertaken by our Deer Leader and his fawns.
And since this seems to be all about politics, I really do hope they are hoisted by their own petards.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 2:25 AM
Now that is a whole nuther thread. Ok, here’s a basic thought, something to warm your heart just before beddy bye.
AQ first tried to take down the WTC in 1993. They didn’t attack us again till 2001. Eight years in between. Cheney says he and Bush kept us safe for seven years. In scientific, verifiable fact terms, Dick’s assertion makes absolutely no sense.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:25 AM
Is Politico MSM? Regardless, the better ones give references you can track down.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:19 AM
They are as MSM as they come.
Can you imagine the number of hits they would get if they started to take on Obama, now that his numbers are finally about to tank?
TexasJew on May 23, 2009 at 2:26 AM
AQ first tried to take down the WTC in 1993. They didn’t attack us again till 2001. Eight years in between. Cheney says he and Bush kept us safe for seven years. In scientific, verifiable fact terms, Dick’s assertion makes absolutely no sense.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:25 AM
How freaking stupid.
You wouldn’t know a scientific argument if it bit you on the ass.
TexasJew on May 23, 2009 at 2:28 AM
10-4 Backdoor. That’s a definite maybe on that one.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:29 AM
Perhaps Cheney’s assertions aren’t correct, but I don’t know about the scientific process about saying they don’t make sense. Aren’t you assuming that the same amount of attacks were attempted in those first eight years instead of the last eight years? Plus some on the right would argue that because we brought the war to them, they were too busy fighting in the homeland to attack us…
I don’t think this is something with an easy answer.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:29 AM
And your ‘scientific argument would be…?
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:30 AM
Goodnight, petunia.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 2:32 AM
Exactly what I am getting at. Cheney keeps making the assertion that we have been kept safe. It could be just as true that AQ takes on average 8 years to successfully attack on US soil.
Neither is defensible because there is no cause and effect established, because there is not enough information.
Every time I hear Bush or Cheney or anyone else make that statement, I cringe. (Actually I want to hurl)
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:35 AM
Fact: We have not been successfully attacked at home during the Bush Administration since 9/11.
Argue with that fact and nothing else. The Obama Administration’s repackaging of Bush Administration policies under new “retard leftist” friendly labels is meaningless as long as it keeps us safe.
Preferably people like trailboss would receive bullets in their heads from al Qaeda during the next attack, but I suppose we have to keep them safe along with genuinely innocent people. If they could be exterminated along with the other undesirables I would shed few tears.
Tabris on May 23, 2009 at 2:35 AM
So I suppose the solution is to release the memos. Further, if there is going to be any investigations, all members of congress at the time (and perhaps at the current time) need to be investigated.
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:37 AM
Which Planet of the Fucking Assholes did you just arrive from?
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:37 AM
Because TexasJew already took the words right out of my keyboard, I’ll try a different approach. 9/11 happened in September 2001 (there’s a SNL jeopardy answer in there somewhere) and the Bush/Cheney team left office in January 2009. The time in between is seven years and four months, but most people would allow seven years for rounding.
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:38 AM
Well, if releasing the memos would resolve the issue without hurting our national security…
As to the second part, amen, brutha.
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:39 AM
Which Planet of the F*king Assh***s did you just arrive from?
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:40 AM
Well, I don’t see how it could really hurt national security. I mean, if there are essentially two theories for how things went down, then the truth is probably in their somehow. Further, we’re releasing enough other things. In the end, it would be transparent – something Obama promised, but doesn’t seem to be delivering on…
Upstater85 on May 23, 2009 at 2:42 AM
The only reason AQ hasn’t attacked us is because they are like so totally not into it right now. The fact that Bush/Cheney put them on the defensive and coerced information about new mass murder plots from a few scumballs has nothing to do with it;)
Laura in Maryland on May 23, 2009 at 2:43 AM
Transparency. What a concept. Promises? What promises?
trailboss on May 23, 2009 at 2:43 AM
To me, there are two major issues that absolutely define conservatism: Fiscal responsibility and national defense. I am able to tolerate differences and forge compromises on all other subjects. But on these two, I strongly believe we must have at least broad agreement on principles.
Due to my condition, I never served in the military. I never studied this area either, so I must rely on those who have and still do. However, I have seen the consequences of US weakness via Jimmy Carter. And I have seen the consequences of US strength, via Ronald Reagan. I prefer the Reagan approach.
So, on defense, I want to err on the side of being over-protected than under-protected, for being too defensive and aggressive than too open and passive.
Loxodonta on May 23, 2009 at 2:44 AM
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