Finally: Liz Cheney vs. Scary Larry O’Donnell on waterboarding

posted at 1:19 pm on May 22, 2009 by Allahpundit

Her interview last night with Anderson Cooper is actually more interesting, since AC achieves something O’D never does — asking her a good question, i.e. whether her dad isn’t making America less safe right now by constantly broadcasting to jihadis how supposedly vulnerable we are under Obama. (Tom Ridge, former DHS secretary, politely disagrees.) Even so, I feel like I owe you the O’Donnell clip given (a) his meltdown over Cheney’s speech yesterday and (b) the sheer feebleness of his efforts here. Gone is the invective about how “sleazy” Cheney is now that he has to say it to his daughter’s face. Instead, all he can muster are questions that answer themselves, like why Cheney wants to release more CIA memos if the release of the torture memos was so damaging (answer: to correct the record distorted by Obama), and indictments of Bush that actually come off, bizarrely, as quasi-defenses. The highlight comes when he wonders why, if waterboarding’s effective, it was only used on three people. Liz handles that one herself, although any reasonably well informed eight-year-old could have explained it to him.

On a related note, Politico’s solved the mystery I posed yesterday of why The One would do something as stupid as schedule a speech opposite Cheney, thereby giving him a megaphone by inviting media comparisons. Answer: The moronic Democrats in Congress begged him to do it. No wonder. Click the image to watch.

Update: I should mention, I’m seeing a lot of Twitter buzz today about U.S. News’s trial balloon of Liz Cheney for Congress. Is this happening? Grassroots power??


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unfunny-losers//s.

Upstater85 on May 22,2009 at 2:04PM.

Upstater85: Say it ain’t so,Joe!!haha:)

canopfor on May 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Let’s publish a picture of Lawrence O’Donnell driving down the street with his babysitter, but not the picture of him dropping her straight off at home. If one picture gives people the wrong idea, why wouldn’t the second one make things worse?

Jim Treacher on May 22, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Someone remind me,who is Larry O’Donnell and why does anyone care about his opinion?Liz is AWESOME.She and Sarah are great examples of why fathers should take a large role in raising their daughters.The reason the femnazis hate Sarah and Liz is because they are what the femnazis want to be and can’t.Who says a woman can’t have it all?Not Liz or Sarah.If I had the opportunity I think I would vote for Liz for any office.

DDT on May 22, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Let’s publish a picture of Lawrence O’Donnell driving down the street with his babysitter, but not the picture of him dropping her straight off at home. If one picture gives people the wrong idea, why wouldn’t the second one make things worse?

Jim Treacher on May 22, 2009 at 2:20 PM

I like the way you think.

progressoverpeace on May 22, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Cheney is working her way up, now she just has to get through the 23.5 hours a day of msnbc false claims.

Tremmy on May 22, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Cheney/Cheney 2012

txag92 on May 22, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Oh, and notice how ABC labels it “enhanced interrogation techniques” in the description, but screams “TORTURE” in the headline. And of course, the seemingly obligatory “waterboarding reenactment” footage flashed on the screen while she’s talking.

Jim Treacher on May 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Kick-A$$ Liz strikes again….! I love it….!

DL13 on May 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Unrelated… she’s better-looking than MMc and far more intelligent.

mankai on May 22, 2009 at 2:29 PM

L.Cheney/S.Palen 2012

He’ll need need some ointment after that boofooin’ he just got.

TheSitRep on May 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM

extremely cogent analysis. to correct the record, he wants to endanger the country! what an adult.

sesquipedalian on May 22, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Did you really mean to admit that Obama has endangered the country? Oops.

Or did you mean that you’re fine with telling the terrorists how we got information out of their buddies, but you don’t want to know whether or not it stopped another attack?

Jim Treacher on May 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM

She makes good points, but honestly I am sick to death of news interviews with opponents shouting over each other. No decorum, no manners, and no shame – this is what politics has become because this is what the media has made it – a vitriolic name-calling shouting match. It’s an embarassment.

Beo on May 22, 2009 at 2:32 PM

What a tool. “If waterboarding kept America safe, why don’t we waterboard everyone?” Does this guy actually make a living asking these sort of questions? He actually made himself sound more stupid and knee-jerk reactionary than he did previously.

Mord on May 22, 2009 at 2:37 PM

ODonnell is such a piece of s%$!
His only debating tactic is to interrupt and get louder as he loses the argument. He got his arse handily handed to him here.

Sugar Land on May 22, 2009 at 2:39 PM

O’Donnell is such a piece of garbage. Scumbag bigot. Levin tore him a second pooper yesterday.

Red Cloud on May 22, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Cheney presents facts and accurate accounting about the release of documents and how enhanced interrogation worked on three scumbags.

O’Donnell presents fiction and exaggerated accounting.

This is the kind of fighting back we need in the GOP. A clear concise voice that can present truth and consequences to the reckless policies of the administration.

Kini on May 22, 2009 at 2:50 PM

So far there’s no Republican challenger for Dingy Harry’s senate seat. Please Ms. Cheney, move to Nevada, establish residency and run against him. A Cheney kicking Dingy Hary out of office would be the sweetest thing!

Trafalgar on May 22, 2009 at 2:54 PM

I have to mute any video with O’Donnell talking. He is such a foaming at the mouth partisan hack I can’t listen. Funny how the Left chastizes the Right for their “extremeists” but has nothing but lunatics speaking for them.

katiejane on May 22, 2009 at 2:55 PM

Liz Cheney and Sarah Palin, having recently come on the national stage, are true role models for a new women’s movement. The tired, old progressive’s version of the women’s movement was rooted in deception and has proven over the past few decades to be very misleading to many women. These two are strong, responsible, courageous women that are successful in and out of the home. They conduct themselves with dignity and pride and most of all, they aren’t harsh in their tones or actions. Let the media continue to tear them down, they get stronger each and every time it happens and many women are taking note of that.

sherry on May 22, 2009 at 3:02 PM

She is popping up all over and kicking butt!

Someone needs to put Liz Cheney quotes up against Megan McCain quotes and see who knows what their talking about… It wouldn’t even be a comparison.

jeffn21 on May 22, 2009 at 3:04 PM

I have a feva and the onlyperscrition is more Liz Cheney!

Even the former head of the Republican party has taken noticeof her skills, RINOs beware.

mpgrunt787 on May 22, 2009 at 3:07 PM

UC Law

School statement: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as “Senior Lecturer.” From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

Elizabeth graduated from McLean High School in 1984. She received her bachelor’s degree from Colorado College where she wrote her senior thesis, “The Evolution of Presidential War Powers,” in 1988.[1] She received her Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree from the University of Chicago Law School in 1996, having also taken courses in Middle Eastern history at the Oriental Institute.[2] She and husband Perry have five children: three daughters, Kate, Elizabeth, and Grace; and two sons, Philip and Richard.

[edit] Early career

I wonder if she saw Obama hanging out with Ayers and Rezco in the alleys of chicago?

seven on May 22, 2009 at 3:11 PM

Why on earth would anyone want to bury Liz Cheney in Congress?

She’s exactly where we need her right now. We’ve finally got someone out in front of the public, making a persuasive case for Republicans on the national security front and nailing progressive pundits to the wall. You won’t see her dad wrangling with the Lawrence O’s on the left, but Liz is uniquely attractive as a talk show guest. It’s a near perfect bully pulpit; the press can’t tar her for machismo; and she can’t be consigned to the fund raising, vote grubbing, partisan quagmire of Washington.

The Cheney’s have got Obama on the defensive. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!

JM Hanes on May 22, 2009 at 3:12 PM

sesquipedalian on May 22, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Why did you not approve of the US taking out serial torturer Saddam Hussein and his goons? After all, they were torturing innicent civilians, not terror suspects.

Del Dolemonte on May 22, 2009 at 3:12 PM

Liz is breath of fresh air and she handles herself very well. However, it doesn’t take much to make O’Donnell look as stupid as he is.

duff65 on May 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM

I hope Liz didn’t erase an answer in the 3rd grade, because if she did, she is about to feel the wrath of 20 million nutters prying into every corner on her life.

She makes sense. Therefore, she must be destroyed.

notagool on May 22, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Why did you not approve of the US taking out serial torturer Saddam Hussein and his goons? After all, they were torturing innicent civilians, not terror suspects.

suspects are presumed innocent too. welcome to America.

sesquipedalian on May 22, 2009 at 3:35 PM

I LOVE how she doesn’t get shaken and never backs down. She is inspiring.

pjean on May 22, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Larry O’Donnell is a piece of crap and puts politics over security.

afotia on May 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Liz put the smack-down on that fool. Love it!

Claypigeon on May 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM

This O’Donnell guy isn’t very rational or smart.

Liz Cheney is sharp.

therightwinger on May 22, 2009 at 3:55 PM

If she’s not going to run for office, then she needs to start a course for conservatives: How to Conduct Effective Interviews with an Overtly Biased Media and every conservative politician should be required to take it.

yogi41 on May 22, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Larry is such a putz.

PersonalLiberty on May 22, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Liberals are simply hateful people who will say and do anything to make a point and don’t care if their own words and ideas make sense even to themselves. They don’t care. They are about accusations and attacking the opposition with anything that will stick. They have no scruples, principles, or shame.

They are for nothing. When it comes to what they are against, anything goes. A liberal only uses “American Values” as an attack against those who have any.

Jaynie59 on May 22, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Girl on girl smackdown. Nice job Liz.

If that interview had gone on for one more minute I’m sure we would have heard Lawrence screeching “Liar, Creepy Liar” again.

BTW, I am in favor of torturing jihadist scumbags who take pleasure in slitting the throat of their enemies. Or journalists. Or contractors. Eff them, O’Donnell, Obama and every donk who cares more about the welfare of terrorists than our own troop.

fogw on May 22, 2009 at 1:54 PM

After another minute you would have seen a towel fly through the air and land on him ending the fight.

Sapwolf on May 22, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Liz Cheney is so “bad ass” that Chuck Norris uses her as a body guard.

TheSitRep on May 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Keep it up Liz, and you’ll get that comic book like the Cuda. Then they will have the combo issue when she and the Cuda take on some Dem tyrant and tag-team him into oblivion.

Damn, you have to be upbeat in the GOP with a sweetheart like this on our side.

Sapwolf on May 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM

I’d love Liz to run for Senate instead of Congress.

promachus on May 22, 2009 at 4:14 PM

It’s fun watching Liz Cheney reduce O’Donnell to a whiny, screaming, out of control fool. But then, I guess just about everyone does that.

Still, she is better informed and better spoken than any congressional Democrat I can think of, so the notion of a run for congress seems quite logical.

O’Donnell, on the other hand, is exactly where he belongs – helping to shape the reputations of the liberals who run HuffHo and the MSM.

Jaibones on May 22, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Somewhere…deep in the now known secret bunker…the father of Elizabeth watches his daughter, a slow tear forming and crawling down an old hard face.

Yes, even the hardest of us all can have a…Beck Moment.

Thanks Vice-President for giving to us, the unworthy, your wonderful girl to maybe some day lead our fight.

Good job.

Sapwolf on May 22, 2009 at 4:50 PM

She seems like an excellent conservative. I hope she runs and wins. Of course my morals are questionable for some because I’m Catholic and conservative, but for me she’s the real deal.
Randy

williars on May 22, 2009 at 4:52 PM

I don’t get it, why not say that waterboarding is torture and argue that we should torture terrorists who are suspected of having knowledge of actively planned warcrimes?

The dems want to argue it both ways: “torture is evil” and “it doesn’t work”. If you even have to make that second argument, then you don’t really think the first argument is enough. Thus, by having an open debate about torture, you establish that most will agree with the principle of torture in one case or another, and so it is just a question of whether terrorists should be tortured. From there it’s a slam dunk.

Currently, we are using the euphemism “enhanced interrogation” for waterboarding, which the dems rightly call us on – it’s obviously torture, no matter what legal opinions say. We then make a utilitarian argument that it works, and they counter it with a utilitarian argument that it does not. By even making that argument, they admit that torture might be okay if it worked.

So knock the torture is evil argument out from under them by removing their argument that we are trying to conceal what we did, and then systematically prove that it works if they want to have that debate.

I hope that makes sense…

ebrawer on May 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM

We are seeing why the lefties are so desperate to discredit the Cheneys and shut them up. O’Donnell got schooooooled.

ddrintn on May 22, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Update: I should mention, I’m seeing a lot of Twitter buzz today about U.S. News’s trial balloon of Liz Cheney for Congress. Is this happening? Grassroots power??

Ironic though that 2 of the 3 people who seem to be able to muster the stones to take on Obama are women.

ddrintn on May 22, 2009 at 5:08 PM

ddrintn on May 22, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Very telling, indeed.

ladyingray on May 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM

The mediator introduced O’Donnell as a former Senate staffer? The guy is just a commentator.

davod on May 22, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Liz Cheney for Congress?….Liz Cheney for President!!!!!

jjverdi on May 22, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Liz is breath of fresh air and she handles herself very well. However, it doesn’t take much to make O’Donnell look as stupid as he is.

duff65 on May 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM

O’Donnell is the same doofus that claimed his sources told him 22 indictments were coming down in the Plame case including against Karl Rove.

jjverdi on May 22, 2009 at 5:44 PM

The mediator introduced O’Donnell as a former Senate staffer? The guy is just a commentator.

davod on May 22, 2009 at 5:26 PM

He’s served time as a Democrat flack.

ddrintn on May 22, 2009 at 6:07 PM

jverdi, I second that motion! Liz Cheney for president, 2012!

Special K on May 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM

O’Donnell is trying for the coveted ACORN public spokesman position.

Wine_N_Dine on May 22, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Liz Cheney is so sharp. We need more people like her to represent us.

sinsing on May 22, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Keep putting odonnell on tv. Now the moron, confused liberals are for not releasing anyone from gitmo. By next month these people will be screaming that the Bush administration considered closing gitmo and almost put Americans in peril. We are living in bizarro world.

peacenprosperity on May 22, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Oh yeah and let me add, I hope everything that this guy is wishing on the Bushes and Cheneys in the dark recesses of his mind happens to him 10 fold. We should all pray for that.

peacenprosperity on May 22, 2009 at 8:35 PM

And of course, the seemingly obligatory “waterboarding reenactment” footage flashed on the screen while she’s talking.

Jim Treacher on May 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM

With what looked like a perfectly tranquil “victim”.

Daemonocracy on May 22, 2009 at 8:41 PM

The main problem with Larry O’Donnell is, his mother doesn’t change his diapers often enough.

*** BOYCOTT MSNBC ***

byteshredder on May 22, 2009 at 9:08 PM

I should mention, I’m seeing a lot of Twitter buzz today about U.S. News’s trial balloon of Liz Cheney for Congress. Is this happening? Grassroots power??

I hope it is true,because we need her.

Very informative,precise,and compelling while Odonell gets smacked by his own liberal talking points and is reduced to yelling and filibustering.

She is very impressive.

Baxter Greene on May 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM

My GOSH, I’m so crushing on Liz Cheney!

I DO believe that the guy was getting yelled at from the producer. Mainly cuz they have to cut away for a hard break and they (being leftist tools) don’t want to leave on a note that “please note that larry is in favor of water boarding 500 people”.

Liz…your awesome baby! Just awesome.

Handel on May 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM

ebrawer on May 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM

surrendering to the false premises of the left are why we are where we are today. that will get us nowhere.

plus, i think that we would collectively look like morons if we adopted this strategy because then we would be “torturing” our men and women in the military. how would we explain that?

Joe Caps on May 22, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Liz Cheney for Congress? Where do I sign up? She has been hands down one of the best spokespersons for conservatism I’ve seen this year. Oh heck yes!

DaMav on May 23, 2009 at 1:28 AM

OMG! Liz Cheney rocks! She had Lawrence on the defensive the whole interview and threw him off his game. Liz refuted his attacks with facts and did not let Lawrence shout her down though he tried his sexist best.

LOL! I loved how she got him to inadvertently say we should have waterboarded all 500 Gitmo prisoners! She turned the tables on O’Donnell BIG TIME!

Be Careful Liz. The MSM and Liberals are plotting against you this very moment because you PWN’D them in this debate.

Great Job Liz!!

sarahpalinfan99 on May 23, 2009 at 2:07 AM

I’m STILL waiting for a wussie leftist to show me the federal law that defines waterboarding as torture or even makes waterboarding illegal. An executive order won’t cut it, executive orders CANNOT overrule federal law or even the UCMJ….I’ll be waiting, you traitorous leftist scum.

nelsonknows on May 23, 2009 at 3:24 AM

The whole staff, and CEOs of MSNBC should be sent to GITMO for a few years of water-boarding, and real leg tingling. I’m sure they’ll tell us that they’re paid DNC agents to sink America. The rotten traitorous bastards!

byteshredder on May 23, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Liz for president!

deewhybee on May 23, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Lawrence O’Donnell and Keith Olberman are proven examples of the epitome of evil. They may be able to twist lies into talking points for the lemmings,but the truth is beyond their comprehension. The hate that oozes from every part of their bodies is indicative of the liberal way of dealing with that which they cannot perceive.

volsense on May 23, 2009 at 5:28 PM

suspects are presumed innocent too. welcome to America.

sesquipedalian on May 22, 2009 at 3:35 PM

We take care of the mentally disabled here, so you’ve got nothing to worry about. Welcome to America.

Jim Treacher on May 23, 2009 at 5:56 PM