Wow: It’s time to legalize drugs, says … Tom Tancredo?
posted at 9:55 pm on May 21, 2009 by Allahpundit
Via the Cato Institute, a shocker that shouldn’t feel as shocking as it does. Because Tanc’s top priority has always been the border, it stands to reason he’d be willing to take bold measures to strengthen it. De-fanging Mexico’s narco-cartels by yanking their black market out from under them would go a long way towards making it safer, albeit not necessarily more secure. Even so, this is Sir Tancelot we’re talking about — staunch supporter of the war on terror, stalwart social con, and of course crusading anti-amnesty advocate. Watching him embrace one of the left’s pet social issues isn’t unlike watching Obama come out in favor of waterboarding in extraordinary circumstances. Which, like Tanc’s position here, would also be the correct one.
Below the news clip you’ll find an informative new promo for the Showtime series “Weeds.” At least, I think it’s informative. I’m too worn out to fact-check it. Click the image to watch.
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he was on it and its illegal…so what would the difference be?
and if it was legal, they wouldn’t have to steal to get it, because it would be cheap.
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:35 PM
whatever. I know you can get addicted to it. methodologies to being hooked and not being hooked.
If you wanna smoke pot, go ahead. I won’t stop you but I will tell you I told you so when you can’t get your high anymore and move onto hard drugs.
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Take another hit homesick. Catch you all another day when the sane people come back.
R D on May 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Whenever this issue comes up I ask the same questions. When prohibition was in effect did more or less people use alcohol. Answer: less, why because people fear the law.
Same goes for drugs today.
Will more or less people use drugs?
Will more or less soldiers use drugs?
Will more or less people be strung out?
To all the answer is more. To all society will be worse than the current situation. I think the drug war is working. The cartels are getting desperate as we continue to expand the border wall.
Check out the other APReport Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2GxFHXK_KA
American families have enough to battle with than to now have to convince their children that a “legal” substance is bad.
sjramos on May 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM
and I knew a lot of bodybuilders…and they didn’t do meth…they weren’t that crazy…and some of them were VERY good…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM
LOL cheap. So what? What if it WAS cheap right?
Do you realize real junkies don’t work… so HOW THe F*CK do they get the money to pay for their cheap drugs!
Riddle me that one batman!
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 10:37 PM
So..outlaw Big Mac’s for health reasons and legalize dope for ? Don’t kill murderers or rapists but kill babies. Somethings f**ked up here folks.
faol on May 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM
It’ll come in their new and improved welfare pay packet.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 10:39 PM
First off, the drug cartels will still do a booming business despite ‘legalization’ because they’ll simply lower the prices to under-cut the high prices of the ‘legalized marijuana’ vendors, PLUS, it won’t be taxed sky high.
Second, that YouTube video is so full of lies and misleading information that it’s almost impossible to differentiate between it and the a-typical propaganda movies of the old Soviet Union. Above all, in recent decades Marijuana has been cross-bred and genetically manipulated to the point where it is far far more potent and super powerful than it was just 20 years ago. In ‘olden times’, it was grown and used primarily for hemp products (like rope and burlap sacks, etc), and when it was ingested it was very mild and used primarily by shaman and ‘witch doctors’. Now, idiots using the ‘legalization will stop smuggling and crush the cartels’ argument are using that argument simply to further their own PERSONAL agenda and has nothing to do with anything as ‘noble’ as fighting crime and the suffering of society. That is, unless they’re just plain stupid.
The number one priority of all druggies is to obtain and maintain their supply of drugs. The number two priority is to get the best they can at the cheapest price possible. More bang for their buck. Like any and every other commodity out there, the lowest price and best value for the same product wins, hands down, every time. That’s what will keep the cartel’s business booming.
Legalization will do nearly nothing to stem the flow of smuggled drugs and will do nothing to stifle drug cartels and anyone who suggests differently is simply one of those drug starved dipsticks living in their own little fog shrouded world and are desperate to get and have their dope without a guilty conscience, and nothing more.
What legalization will undoubtedly do though is make the drugs way more accessible to the youths who will pinch it from Mom and Dad and adult siblings and relatives and further fully encourage youths to use drugs because, heck, it’s legal now!
SilverStar830 on May 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM
The above statement demonstrates that you are simply talking out of your arse.
People under the influence of heroin with superhuman strength?!?! Puh-leezze!!
People under the influence of heroin have real trouble lifting their head off the pillow. They couldn’t fight a cold.
Do your homework.
JohnGalt23 on May 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM
oh man… just another thing I have to pay for.
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM
LOL. What sci-fi novel are you living in. When I was young two Thai sticks ran you about $7. There were no grow lights, drip systems, or vacuum sealed transportation bags involved.
I can see it now, the THC Workers Union, helping keep the munchie makers happy!
Limerick on May 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 10:39 PM
The REAL stimulating stimulas.
faol on May 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Pandora’s Box………….
…….. Marijuana, Cocaine, Heroin, PCP, LSD, Magic Mushrooms, Hash, Honey Oil, Meth, Nitrous, Glue, Paint in a Bag, Moonshine, Steroids, Licking Frogs, Speed Balls, Coco-Puffs,
and what would be the age limit, 18 or 21……….?
……………..Come on people,
get creative. You and your family taking the nice Memorial Day weekend trip, pull into a rest stop filled with any drug you want, and hundreds of those on them……
……………… The Law of Unintended Consequences.
Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM
you’re an idiot.
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM
And the smoking ban has supporters like Buckley and Huckabee. Not exactly a bunch of flaming liberals. A conservative/right-wing stance, too? Or is it a lefty stance they happened to agree with?
Oh, and George Schultz opposes the embargo on Cuba and was on the Buffett/Taxanator Economic Recovery Council. Friedman was an agnostic who believed that, while opposing a conscripted force, thought the nation should be able to force military training. I’m not about to jump on board with them either.
amerpundit on May 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM
you forget one thing there penis wrinkle.
When they are looking for a FIX.. they are all tweaking out, trpping and have a aweosme little nervous twitch and will freak out on you if you do not give them what they want!
So STFU and go away galt. As even the book didn’t have drugs you pathetic loser. You
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 10:42 PM
So should we bring back prohibition? While the overall number of drinkers went down, dangerous binge drinking was up. Along with crime and a whole host of other undesirable side effects (it vastly enriched the mob, exactly like what’s happening today with the big cartels).
jonknee on May 21, 2009 at 10:42 PM
FIFY
I don’t relish giving freebies to people on the street, and I certainly don’t relish paying the social price in terms of taxation and lost resources of (even more) freely available drugs.
a) Yes they are.
b) As the child of two alcoholics, and the father of a drug-abusing son, I do. Murder destroys a life, and drugs do too. Murder causes tremendous hardship for those who either depended upon or loved the murdered person, and drugs exact that same hardship on those in equivalent relations to an abuser. In fact, drugs go further. The murdered person does not steal to remain murdered, while the drug abuser does to continue their behavior.
The dealer is the shooter.
unclesmrgol on May 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM
HOW AM I AN IDIOT RIGHT!
I proved YOU wrong. REAL JUNKIES DO NOT HAVE A JOB. So tell me how these PEOPLE PAY for their FIX, RIGHT!
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Great! Super weed, super slavery… now we just need Super Tea-Parties!
TMK on May 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM
how about you do yours.
Ever seen a heroine addict loking for a fix who is tweaked out and has a nervous tick? Yeah, how about you go tick them off and see what happens there little man.
Nice name… to bad you don’t live up to the book.
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM
why don’t you stop foaming at the mouth, and back that statement up then with stats from a reputable source…
Mr. Miles Davis was a heroin addict all his life…he managed to work, didn’t he now??
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM
This is a no-brainer and always has been. When you criminalize an activity that does not victimize anyone, like the use of narcotics or prostitution, you just open things up for a rampant black market of real criminals and lead to violent organizations filling the vaccum to augment their cash flow.
This endangers a massive amount of people – not just those who choose to participate in these activities despite their illegality and are at risk of obtaining dangerously prepared street drugs, spreading STDs or being preyed on by assailants who know a “criminal” is not going to be seeking help from law enforcement, but unconnected innocents who get caught up in the crossfire.
When you consider the fiscal situation, it’s even more absurd to support these oppressive and misguided laws. For one thing, the government is missing out on countless tax dollars that could be obtained from transactions occuring now illegally and under the table. At the same time, we’re pouring an endless stream of dollars down the drain in order to police, prosecute and incarcerate relatively harmless criminals.
Finally, I can’t understand how opposing the drug war is deemed a liberal view while supporting it is supposed to be a conservative decision. It’s the leftists who normally want to micromanage the lives of individual citizens, claiming to do so for the best interest of collective society. Conservatives are supposed to stand for non-intrusive, minimal government and individual liberty. That’s not to say they would encourage people to use narcotics, it’s to say they should know that it isn’t any of their business what individuals may choose to do with their own bodies.
Sign of the Dollar on May 21, 2009 at 10:46 PM
well I’ll take them over you or any other ‘conservative’ around today…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM
I am talking ALL Junkies.. not just Heroine addicts.
Look who can’t answer a question. And FYI why don’t you talk to someone else before you go there concerning drugs since you obviousy do not have a clue!
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 10:48 PM
How often do you see people on the street buying beer or cigarettes from shady Columbian fellows?
It has been a long time since you were young. The game has changed.
jonknee on May 21, 2009 at 10:48 PM
correction, not all his life, he managed to overcome it..
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Right. Because a true conservative stance would be supporting a national smoking ban, allowing the free flow of money to support a dictator, or perhaps forcing a population to undergo military training against their will in a time of peace. I’m broken up, truly I am.
amerpundit on May 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM
ok then it should be real easy to post your stats, and make me look foolish…go ahead and prove that ALL ADDICTS cannot hold a job, and have to steal…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Here’s a fun little anecdote. We’ve been helping a young (19 yr old) woman, lives in a duplex within our neighborhood. Just had a baby, baby is hooked on methadone. Baby is still in hospital while it goes through withdrawal.
I am told that the child will likely be taken from this mother, who was unwilling/unable to break her methadone habit. Which, I believe, is provided legally as an alternative to heroin.
So figure these kinds of scenarios into the whole legalization picture. It’s incredibly costly, and I don’t mean just money.
TexasDan on May 21, 2009 at 10:51 PM
right, and YOU speak for conservatism…you founded it right?? buckley, burnham, and chambers were just front men for you…
right rolleyes…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:51 PM
ROTFL! That’s it kid! It HAS been a long time since I was young and typical of young today is that you ‘invented’ the game. Keep dreaming, kid. The world isn’t any different today then it was in 1960, or 1860, or 1060. Same folks, different clothes. Your generation will claim the discovery of sex any day now.
Limerick on May 21, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Even at the risk of imperiling all of surrounding society? Maybe even an entire country? And, Legalization of drugs does not and will not encourage the very use of drugs?
Truly fascinating… bullcrap.
SilverStar830 on May 21, 2009 at 10:51 PM
the very illegality itself is a draw to many people to do drugs…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:52 PM
So many stupid arguments! Sobriety, it seems, of itself confers no cognitive benefits.
Is this that “compassionate conservatism” I hear so much about?
Right now we have to pay to lock up all the offenders. I’d be interested to see which costs more.
Ever lost a family member to an car accident? Let’s criminalize automobiles!
+1
If a study proved that the practice of your religion placed a greater-than-average burden on society, would you consent to it being banned? I hope so–it’s about time America takes the lead in math and science again.
How would a couple of years in the state penitentiary have done for him? Outpatient therapy for me but not for thee, eh?
How do you reconcile the War on Drugs with freedom, or with the U.S. Constitution?
My understanding is that it is impossible to use PCP without becoming a danger to others. There’s no problem keeping it illegal, for the same reason it’s illegal to drive on the sidewalks.
hicsuget on May 21, 2009 at 10:53 PM
and which president has stopped the free flow of money to Saudi Arabia or china??
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Buckley didn’t “found” conservatism, my punctuation-challenged friend. Neither did Chambers. Abraham Lincoln spoke of being a conservative long before any of them were even thought of. They also don’t speak for conservatism, as Buckley himself made clear in an episode of Charlie Rose back in the 90s.
amerpundit on May 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Should I get off your lawn too gramps?
Legalization would decimate the cartels over night. A small minority of people would choose to grow their own, while most would end up buying at whatever the approved outlet would be (tobacconists?). It happened with alcohol for your generation, so you should know!
jonknee on May 21, 2009 at 10:55 PM
I didn’t see Rush mugging little old ladies.
SnarkVader on May 21, 2009 at 10:55 PM
The Absolute Best Thing Said All Night!! Thank You!!!
R D on May 21, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Don’t fall out of your walker there old timey man. ; )
thomasaur on May 21, 2009 at 10:56 PM
lets rewrite history now ala Orwell..
in fact he did found modern conservatism…deal with it.
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:56 PM
You’re confusing conservs with Libertarians. Conservs think anything they think is good, and therefore should be imposed on the rest of us. Libs think that anything they ‘feel in their hearts’ must be right, and therefore should be imposed on the rest of us. Libertarians just say stay the hell off my lawn and we’ll get along fine.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 10:57 PM
How often do ‘shady Columbian fellows’ actually take to the streets to sell beer and cigarettes at a greatly reduced cost compared to legally sanctioned vendors for the same product?
If they did, then the answer would be: a great very many.
Your logic, or rather lack thereof, makes about as much sense as the jonesing junkie does when he’s scheming and lying to get his next fix.
SilverStar830 on May 21, 2009 at 10:57 PM
but of course YOU do.
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 10:57 PM
I thought glue and paint already were legal. If they’re not, my kindergarten teacher has a lot of explaining to do.
hicsuget on May 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Self serving LIES!
SilverStar830 on May 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM
China doesn’t have a dictator. It may have a Communist regime which puts protests down, but I’m unaware of a dictator. By the way, if you’re ever in Beijing, you must visit Jingshan Park. I had a lovely conversation with a Chinese man there about how a one-party system isn’t a good form of government.
As for Saudi Arabia, it’s an unfortunate situation which is purely tactical. No tactical advantage is to be gained by propping up Fidel Castro.
amerpundit on May 21, 2009 at 10:59 PM
I said,
Driving while high doesn’t qualify, just as driving drunk doesn’t.
It’s such a phony contention that conservatives think that they are “for small government”. Some conservatives are, but most?
The “War On Drugs” is as big a failure as the “War On Poverty”. GIANT FAIL, YEAR AFTER YEAR, WITH NO HOPE OF SUCCESS.
Sometimes I wish you statists would just hop on a giant spaceship and leave this planet to those that actually give a damn about liberty — or the other way around, so long as I don’t have the authoritarians screwing up things.
toliver on May 21, 2009 at 11:00 PM
No worries there. The Department of Transportation made it illegal for me not to wear seat belts. ;)
Limerick on May 21, 2009 at 11:00 PM
No. But I do express my opinion when a policy they end up supporting runs counter to the definition they themselves have applied to conservatism.
amerpundit on May 21, 2009 at 11:00 PM
75 years later, suckers still buy the Reefer Madness malarky. Folks, if that movie had been made today, it would have been directed by Michael Moore.
Tanc’s absolutely right. Prohibition didn’t work. Legalize, regulate, and tax. Turn a liability into an asset. Provide Americans with more chances to make their own choices on what to do with their lives. The opposite way simply leads to the outlawing of more and more things. Remember Huck? Mr. Fast Food tax?
Anything can be abused. The problem is the person, not the substance.
MadisonConservative on May 21, 2009 at 11:00 PM
who are you???? did you steal madison’s login???
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 11:01 PM
They would be out there in a heart beat if there were profit in it. Cigarettes have a smallish black market (mostly just avoiding state taxes), but alcohol has almost none. You’re even free to brew at home even though almost no one does.
jonknee on May 21, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Actually limerick, those are very fair questions.
1) how big drug markets will be under legalization is difficult to calculate. Now, unlike my legalization brethren, I won’t try to tell you overall drug use will go down… it won’t. It will go up.
But the question is, what drugs will they be using. I’m fairly certain cannabis use will go up. But I also think you’ll see what economist’s call the substitution effect take hold, where people will start using cannabis in place of alcohol, since the risk premium associated with them will be equalized.
Second, in the long run, I think you will see less people using heroin and cocaine. The fact is that most people who get introduced to heroin and cocaine do so through markets created to deliver another black market product, namely cannabis. What happens is someone buys cannabis from a black marketeer, and that black marketeer offers to sell him something stronger. You legalize drugs, and you can separate these markets, so that a cannabis buyer never has to be exposed to the heroin or cocaine market if he chooses not to.
2) We will become a more productive society by legalizing drugs. Right now, we have massive economic inefficiencies associated with the drug war. We spend billions on drug law enforcement which goes down a black hole. We spend billions locking up drug users, and further lose billions of dollars in tax revenues due to work lost resulting from their incarceration. We lose tens of billions in tax revenue due to a hundred billion dollars in profits from drug sales going untaxed.
But all that pales in comparison to the loss of GDP associated with hundreds of billions of dollars flowing away from our shores, in the form of net exports. Legalize drugs, allow them to be sold by American corporations, and all those hundreds of billions stay onshore, and thus add to our GDP, rather than detracting from it.
JohnGalt23 on May 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM
I think the whole ‘banning tobacco’ was more of an emotional outburst by a sad old man…I wouldn’t put that in the same league as his writings in the National Review..where I remember reading his support of drug legalization…just as I remember reading Solzhenitsyn’s address to harvard…I subscribed for a long long time…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Tanc’s not a Social Con, he’s a principled libertarian- probably the rarest of political animals left. Someone outta adopt him like a low land gorilla before his ideas vanish from the American landscape once and for all.
abobo on May 21, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Somebody needs to spend less time in the red light district, and more time rereading Atlas Shrugged. John Galt was a heroine addict–her name was Dagny Taggart, and he just couldn’t get enough.
hicsuget on May 21, 2009 at 11:03 PM
very good points…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Stop it! Just stop it! You and your logical arguments….
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Gotta wonder who picked up a plant and said ” Hey Satawanta stick this in your mouth and set it on fire. You’ll love it. Centuries later we argue about it.
faol on May 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM
there are no real good answers…its just the lesser of two evils…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Legalization of homosexuality and Islam encourages conversion. Better kill them all now before all our kids become gay Muslims.
hicsuget on May 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM
I think the ancients were smarter than we give them credit for…the antikythera(sp?) mechanism for example…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 11:07 PM
OK. I’m with you. And your point is?
radiofreevillage on May 21, 2009 at 11:07 PM
As have I. He was a thoughtful and intelligent person who put many long hours into his columns and, as you can tell by the seemingly decades he put in between each word as he spoke, didn’t just say things he didn’t mean. He acknowledged in that column how his position put him in opposition to his very own stances.
I would call very little of what Mr. Buckley thought out and wrote down for mass publication an “emotional outburst”. Especially when he recognizes how it contradicts what he stands for.
amerpundit on May 21, 2009 at 11:07 PM
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 11:07 PM
And the Yo Yo as a weapon.
faol on May 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM
All the more reason that heroin and cocaine should be legalized over marijuana if there has to be a distinction. I’m not saying there should be a free-for-all, but they need to be decriminalized and regulated by the FDA. Furthermore, it’s practically impossible to have a serious overdose from marijuana, but taking a badly-cut or unresponsible amount of cocaine or heroin – or using unsanitary paraphenilia to do so – is often deadly at worst and can lead to a scary hospital trip or the spread of disease. The effects of neither of these two drugs (and most any other you can drag out as a “scary” example of legalization gone “too far”) is radically different from certain pharmaceuticals that are widely available already. It’s time to take the commerce out of the hands of America-hating terrorists, psychotic Latin drug cartels and violent American street gangs and make things safer and more profitable for our citizens.
Sign of the Dollar on May 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM
given our 1,400 year war of islam against all that is not islam…..don’t worry though…armageddon will take care of the islamic radical problem…
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Now, having been saddened quite enough by the memory of what we lost last February, I will need to bid you a good evening. 6AM meetings come very soon. It’s been a great debate.
amerpundit on May 21, 2009 at 11:10 PM
hicsuget on May 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM
No! Iminadinnerjacket say’s there are no gay Muslims.
faol on May 21, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Removal of a stable dictaroship and chaos in the region. Good point, actually. Was it intended?
radiofreevillage on May 21, 2009 at 11:10 PM
not a chance….islam has been at war with all that is not islam for 1,400 years…and the CIA did NOT support bin-laden in afghanistan. its not the Israel/palestine problem that makes them hate us…its because we do not bow down to allah…
this sounds like a typical liberl ‘its the US fault’
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 11:12 PM
right4life on May 21, 2009 at 11:12 PM
You infidel you.
faol on May 21, 2009 at 11:13 PM
The way things are going with all the taxes on anything bad for you: You make it legal (weed) and just tax it at what used to be crazy insane rates. No one will be able to afford it. Problem solved! Oops you can grow your own. Ahhh, what to do? I’m still trying to recover from the taxes on smokes. Good lord!
kahall on May 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM
DUDE!
I haven’t read the whole thing yet as it is at my cabin where I have been reading it on weekend. You just screwed up more then I want to read now. Thanks.
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM
You are far to old to be up this late posting. Go to bed.
Loxodonta on May 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Stop I never see him anymore.
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM
My comment in response to another:
hicsuget’s response:
hicsuget has a powerful lead in the “Stunningly Imbecilic Comment” award category.
Anyone who cares to challenge him for the lead is going to have work really really hard to beat that.
SilverStar830 on May 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Let’s see what the NHTSA has to say on the matter…
NHTSA Study of Driving Under the Influence of Cannabis
THC’s effects after doses up to 300 µg/kg never exceeded alcohol’s at BACs of 0.08 g% and were in no way unusual compared to many medicinal drugs (Robbe 1994). Yet THC’s effects differ qualitatively from many other drugs, especially alcohol. Evidence from the present and previous studies strongly suggests that alcohol encourages risky driving whereas THC encourages greater caution, at least in experiments. Another way THC seems to differ qualitatively from many other drugs is that the former’s users seem better able to compensate for its adverse effects while driving under the influence.
Hmmm…. now which, do you suppose happens more often… someone shooting someone else while stoned, or while drunk.
My money is on the latter.
JohnGalt23 on May 21, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Nope he just FUed the book I was reading. Now I have no interest in it.
He wins.. hands down.
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 11:19 PM
You stop! Got to bed too. Maybe you’ll see something there.
Loxodonta on May 21, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Fixed.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 11:20 PM
I suggest we legalize everything.
Think of the sales tax revenue.
And the savings on law enforcement.
Loxodonta on May 21, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Lox hun.. it is ONLY 7:30 … little early hun LOL!
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Hey 1060 wasn’t so bad. The rats took some getting used to but all in all I can’t complain.
This is one of Allah’s favorite hit getters. The four never ending circles of HA…
1. Abortion
2. God
3. Pot
4. DUDE
Limerick on May 21, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Loxodonta on May 21, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Cool! Wheres the dynamite stand?
faol on May 21, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Early to bed, early to rise,
Gives a marriage a healthy surprise.
Loxodonta on May 21, 2009 at 11:25 PM
And who are we going to believe… you, or our lying
eyesreason?JohnGalt23 on May 21, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Loxodonta on May 21, 2009 at 11:25 PM
I am not married and he is 120 miles away at the moment.
no reason for a healthy surprize today.
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Ewwwwwwwww!!!!!! Stop it.
trailboss on May 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM
My brother is a heroine addict. Who was a Meth head, who was a cocaine user in the highest regard who was a roid head and of course pot.
I have seen him go from a normal kid into the what he is now.
I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Ever.
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM
When was the last time he heard your voice?
Loxodonta on May 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Tancredo is more of a soc-con than you think. He’s pro-life, hetero-marriage, and a bit more of Christian conservative than many think.
Agree with the rare political animal take.
katy on May 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM
I have seen many lives destroyed by drugs. I wish I had an answer.
faol on May 21, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Then you are a fool.
Yeah… a hundred billion dollars a year can really make an organization desperate. [rolleyes]
I have no intention of selling out my freedoms, wrecking the US economy, and allowing drug cartels to take over governments all over this hemisphere, just in order to help some parents who are too weak to teach their children right from wrong, and cry for Big Daddy government to do the job for them
JohnGalt23 on May 21, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Sure you can get hooked on pot. You can kick it easily though.
I wonder if you can get hooked on alcohol too?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. REAL HEAD SCRATCHER. I don’t smoke but I’m not selfish, moralizing, or authoritarian enough to tell other people they can’t.
It’s safer than many, many legal drugs, and certainly far safer than alcohol.
Dr. Manhattan on May 21, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Couple days ago. When he asked for my mom on the phone (since she is no living with me) and he was asking her for somemoney to do a score.
he does not live up here, he is in the south I think.
upinak on May 21, 2009 at 11:35 PM
If drugs are legal, they are so cheap that they can panhandle for the money. Or they can sell blood. Or work one day a month to buy it.
When drugs are illegal, they are so expensive they have to hold up liquor stores, 7-11′s, and innocent homeowners.
So, why are you in favor of people committing armed robbery?
JohnGalt23 on May 21, 2009 at 11:35 PM
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