Four arrested in NYC terror plot
posted at 8:16 am on May 21, 2009 by Allahpundit
I don’t get it. Who’d want to blow up Jewish temples and shoot down U.S. military aircraft? Oh, right.
The suspects were arrested shortly after planting a mock explosive device in the trunk of a car outside the Riverdale Temple and two mock bombs in the backseat of a car outside the Jewish Center, authorities said.
Cromitie is the son of an Afghani immigrant and his African-American wife. It is that connection to Afghanistan, investigators say, and an unhappiness with America’s ongoing war efforts abroad that allegedly drove him to become a terrorist.
In their efforts to obtain weapons, the defendants dealt with an informant acting under law enforcement supervision, and the FBI and other agencies monitored the defendants’ actions up to the time of arrest, including providing an inactive missile and inert explosives to the informant for the defendants. The Feds told CBS 2 HD’s Lou Young they picked up the inert weapons at a meeting in Stamford, Conn., and during the last few days secured small arms, including assorted handguns…
In talking to the FBI informant, Cromitie expressed interest in one day returning to Afghanistan, of dying a “martyr” and wanting to do “something to America”. When discussing the best targets, Cromitie allegedly told the infomant, “the best target (the World Trade Center) was hit already. When the conversation turned to attacking a synagogue, Cromitie allegedly said, “I hate those Jewish “expletie.” I would like to get a synagogue.
The suspects, according to the LA Times: “James Cromitie, also known as Abdul Rahman; David Williams, or Daoud; Onta Williams, or Hamza; and Laguerre Payen, or Amin.” The cops think they’re freelancers, unconnected to any terrorist group. They all have rap sheets for petty crimes, so speculation is that they got together through prison contacts. I wonder which of them, if any, were jailhouse converts.
The most interesting detail about the arrest is how far the cops let the plot proceed, to the point of letting them actually plant fake bombs in cars outside the temple. I’m sure that’s deliberate: There’s nothing new about police selling weapons to would-be jihadis to generate the “overt act” requirement for a conspiracy charge — that’s what sunk the Fort Dix Six — but the earlier the plot is busted up, the harder it is to convince a jury that the suspects really meant to do harm rather than just shoot their mouths off idly about some half-assed desire for jihad. (See, e.g., the Sears Tower case.) The NYPD took a calculated risk here; imagine the public outcry if the suspects had ditched the bomb plot at the last second and instead rushed into the temple with guns blazing. Thank god it worked out.
NY1 has a few highlights from the police presser. Click the image to watch.
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I’m 96% sure these are Obama voters who are not satisfied with the pace of “hope and change”.
elduende on May 21, 2009 at 8:24 AM
This is one problem with politically correct racial identification. Was she really African, possibly with ties to overseas radicals, or was she of several generations of American blood with dark skin?
jgapinoy on May 21, 2009 at 8:24 AM
I guess all that apologizing by Obama didn’t accomplish much.
Doughboy on May 21, 2009 at 8:26 AM
Bingo.
BTW, thanks for working long hours to keep us informed, AP.
jgapinoy on May 21, 2009 at 8:26 AM
NY deserves it. Serves those racists right for not voting Obama in the last election.
Er, what?
rbj on May 21, 2009 at 8:27 AM
I guess all that apologizing by Obama didn’t accomplish much.
Doughboy on May 21, 2009 at 8:26 AM
Nope. Just laughter, derision, and an impression of weakness.
kingsjester on May 21, 2009 at 8:27 AM
The nutroots ‘talking points’ are out. It was orchestrated by the FBI.
So predictable.
JammieWearingFool on May 21, 2009 at 8:28 AM
Isn’t that what Ace (and jgapinoy above) is saying: Cromitie was of Afghani descent and was upset about American intrusion in Afghanistan, the other three were jailhouse converts. Which makes a perfect analogy for what might happen if the U.S. were to mix Gitmo terrorists into the general prison population.
LastRick on May 21, 2009 at 8:28 AM
Once again, the perpetrators were not:
Right-wing extremists
Pro-Lifers
NRA members
Tea Party attendees
Evangelical Christians
Zionist Jews….
Disturb the Universe on May 21, 2009 at 8:30 AM
Obviously these four were zionist agents who were attempting to discredit and bring disrepute upon the most glorious and peaceful religion of the world Islam. Their non islamic actions have nothing to do with jihad, which is a term that only a neo zionist like Commissioner Kelly would use to describe those non islamic acts. Indeed, everyone knows that jihad is like buddhist yoga practices, meant only for developing inner peace and spiritual enlightenment. Anyone who says otherwise is an islamophobe xenophobic bitter bible clutching redneck cousin marrying fool. /sarcasm.
As for me, I commend the NYC Police Department and FBI for this work. I hope the case is brought in federal court, because if the feds or NYC PD used warrantless GPS device(s) to track the movements of these genocidal maniacs, the NYS Courts might be mandated under the recent NYS Court of Appeals ruling to exclude evidence based upon insertion of such GPS device(s) without such warrant. Also interesting that the arrest is one the eve of Obama’s national security speech (which was scheduled to take the attention away from former VP Cheney’s AEI speech this am), and the day after the Senate rebuked the Obama Administration on closing GITMO.
eaglewingz08 on May 21, 2009 at 8:31 AM
Good for FBI and NYPD intel.
Keep it comin.
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:32 AM
So, the FBI lies? The CIA lies?
Yep, that is a great way to go forward in the war on
terrorcontingency operations.We’ll all be safe once we are deaf, dumb and blind.
myrenovations on May 21, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Is this a hate crime?
hip shot on May 21, 2009 at 8:32 AM
OT: What ever happened to Ray Kelly’s son Greg Kelly who used to be on FOX news?
Disturb the Universe on May 21, 2009 at 8:33 AM
Good question. Surely, they will get harsher sentences as hate crime perpetrators than as “free lance” terrorists.
Disturb the Universe on May 21, 2009 at 8:34 AM
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:34 AM
I’d love to open up a can of “man-caused-disaster” on these thugs.
Sheesh.
Nice work by the feds, though.
bluelightbrigade on May 21, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Predictable indeed. The left desperately needs any Islamist terror threat to disappear with The One’s presidency so they can say no terrorist threat to us existed until Bush stirred them up.
flipflop on May 21, 2009 at 8:36 AM
Mr. Obama should let these freedom fighters go .
steviedfromnc on May 21, 2009 at 8:36 AM
I think he got a morning gig on one of NYC’s Fox affiliates.
flipflop on May 21, 2009 at 8:37 AM
Thanks. I’ve been wondering about that for a while.
Disturb the Universe on May 21, 2009 at 8:38 AM
Well, good ruck with that, I say.
It’s going to get worse — the Islamists see a huge opening.
Now its just the debate between how to proceed that is going on in their ranks.
Some think it’s time to step up the Stealth Jihad — others want to get their bomb on.
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:38 AM
Damn Presbyterians.
Mr. Bingley on May 21, 2009 at 8:39 AM
YEa he is I just saw him on Fox’s NYC. I kinda feel bad for him.
LOL
Fox Cable always sends people to Fox Five New York.
Like Heather Nauert — remember her she was on John Gibson’s show
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:39 AM
Well, thank goodness that the DHS is monitoring the important threats to the country, like the Tea Parties and the Federalist Society……
Techie on May 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM
This doesn’t make sense. Why is New York the locus of the Overseas Contingency Operation? Someone tell the White House.
flyfisher on May 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Janet NapoloReno is still convinced that they were involved somehow.
jgapinoy on May 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM
1)
Uh… isn’t this why Gibbs said Gitmo has to be closed? So as not to be a rallying call for our enemies? I hope O&co or at least America wakes up to the fact that you can’t always make everyone happy and sometimes you just have to do what’s right.
2) I wonder how O&co is going to modify their response/solution to the Democrats not funding Gitmo-Closing? I was pretty sure he could have found some rubbish to say, but this puts things in a new light.
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 8:41 AM
We need to find common ground.
jeff_from_mpls on May 21, 2009 at 8:41 AM
Yep, it’s all America’s fault, we’re such a bad, evil country, we’re driving nice regular joes to do something like become a manmade disaster.
/do I really need a sarc?
4shoes on May 21, 2009 at 8:42 AM
Hey, Obama is probably still convinced that they are just misunderstood siblings.
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 8:42 AM
Oh, I guarantee that O will work this one in a few times over the next few weeks.
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 8:43 AM
This will definitely be a interesting day. With Mr. Preesident’s “Security” speech followed by Dick Cheney’s.
The Administration did not want to see this information come out this morning.
kingsjester on May 21, 2009 at 8:44 AM
We will find common ground.
When the Islamists convert us and we all say Alhamdi’illah!
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:44 AM
The Chosen One needs to get his Hope and Change message out…maybe it’s time to bring in Rev. Wright to help rehabilitate our image in the World.
djn on May 21, 2009 at 8:45 AM
Anyone up for some Uyghurs?
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 8:45 AM
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:39 AM
Can we send Shep to some obscure affiliate?
Disturb the Universe on May 21, 2009 at 8:45 AM
It would be a great day if and when Fox did that.
Maybe somewhere in Idaho
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM
Hey, I guess this is where O and the Islamists have something in common. They say things like “finding common ground,” when they really just want to you take their beliefs to be your “common ground.” Sounds, er, fascistic.
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM
On the bright side, since Barack “Lee Iacocca” Obama has now ramped up the CAFE standards, the chances of a successful car bombing have greatly decreased, because all future vehicles will be too small to hold any explosives and will be in the shop most of the time for repairs.
Genius!
Mr. D on May 21, 2009 at 8:47 AM
You could almost say that those people who drive those big bulking cars are
environmentalterrorists.Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 8:48 AM
These are just gentlemen with a contrary opinion.Call them anything but do not call them ‘terrorists’.
MaiDee on May 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Common ground sounds so fun!
BAAAAHAHAHAHAH
“Shi’ite! This car is too small!!! F*cking Americans!!”
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Another reason for Islamists to bomb the US
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Frackin’ Evangelicals, always trying to blow things up.
Bishop on May 21, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Frackin’ Evangelicals, always trying to blow things up.
Bishop on May 21, 2009 at 8:51 AM
I know. You have to watch out for those killer casseroles.
kingsjester on May 21, 2009 at 8:53 AM
I know, right?
On a more serious note — I’m really dreading what’s down the road for us.
Airport sec. is a joke. People think we’re safe in the skies now?
My dad was a pilot for American Airlines out of NYC until about 2002. They made HIM take off his shoes while Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Faisal bin Tariik ibn Zayyid bin Mahmoud ibn Abuaila Bin Turkiyya bin Lashkar bin Sayyid bin Muhammad got to walk by through security.
Plus — cargo is the real threat. He and his pilot buddies didn’t worry about hijackers anymore (none of them were about to tolerate that shit — especially with the emergency axe on board), but since so little cargo is actually scanned….
Just throw whatever device in the cargo bay and bye bye.
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:55 AM
So what I’m saying is
Yesterday was a small victory.
But in the larger scheme of things, we are losing domestically, IMHO.
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM
HEADLINE:
Obama and Timmy Geithner Swoop down on confused/misunderstood terrorists of possible Middle-Eastern/Asian Descent. Obama promises Transparency, yet a tough trial. Obama also promises Geneva conventions will sorta be followed.
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 8:57 AM
Any bets that Dick Cheney will be mentioning this incident in his upcoming speech?
Obama, on the other hand, will probably avoid this issue like the plague. Not that the media will even ask him a question about it, however.
Olbermann will probably scoff and use the word “teabag” 20 times or more to fill up his show, while deeming Cheney the “Worst person in the Woooorld”.
Nancy Pelosi will blame the CIA for not stopping the incident sooner, and that she was left in the dark about it.
Things Cheney should mention in his speech:
Key word about the Obama Admin: Naivety
The four terrorists and how there are many more we have yet to discover.
The war on terror is not over, despite the Glowbama effect.
1 in 7 Gitmo detainees released go back to Jihad, and how Obama will not tell you that.
The Dems may not say it, but they want to release all the Gitmo detainees, and Obama will eventually have his way. And, by the way, they will probably come to live in the USA and collect Welfare benefits.
darkmetal on May 21, 2009 at 8:58 AM
The mystery of Scare Force One’s flight several weeks ago is finally cleared up – Obama had it providing photo surveillance to break up this plot – Obama’s the hero, news at 11!
PatMac on May 21, 2009 at 8:58 AM
If I told you once I’ve told you a thousand times, it’s all our fault.
Akzed on May 21, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Did allah said “thank god”?
Hope and Change!
youngO on May 21, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Did allah said “thank god”?
Hope and Change!
youngO on May 21, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Did allah said “thank god”?
Hope and Change!
youngO on May 21, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Ahh yes, celebrate our diverse multiculturalism and the benefits that people of color & new cultures are bringing to this country.
What the left and much of the right are afraid to articulate is that our country and culture was founded primarily by western european, white, family oriented, judeochristian and entrepreneural values. Countries having values counter to these find us offensive and are envious that their values are not producing the goodies they crave. So we, stupidly, invite them here and they, eagerly, come to get on the dole and bring their filth, perverted beliefs, immorality and laziness with them.
The case can also be made that we also brought on much of our troubles today when we got muddled in the slave trade. Now, generations later we are suffering for the sins of our fathers. The ACORNS don’t fall far from the tree.
wepeople on May 21, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Ahh yes, celebrate our diverse multiculturalism and the benefits that people of color & new cultures are bringing to this country.
What the left and much of the right are afraid to articulate is that our country and culture was founded primarily by western european, white, family oriented, judeochristian and entrepreneural values. Countries having values counter to these find us offensive and are envious that their values are not producing the goodies they crave. So we, stupidly, invite them here and they, eagerly, come to get on the dole and bring their filth, perverted beliefs, immorality and laziness with them.
The case can also be made that we also brought on much of our troubles today when we got muddled in the slave trade. Now, generations later we are suffering for the sins of our fathers. The ACORNS don’t fall far from the tree.
wepeople on May 21, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Ahh yes, celebrate our diverse multiculturalism and the benefits that people of color & new cultures are bringing to this country.
What the left and much of the right are afraid to articulate is that our country and culture was founded primarily by western european, white, family oriented, judeochristian and entrepreneural values. Countries having values counter to these find us offensive and are envious that their values are not producing the goodies they crave. So we, stupidly, invite them here and they, eagerly, come to get on the dole and bring their filth, perverted beliefs, immorality and laziness with them.
The case can also be made that we also brought on much of our troubles today when we got muddled in the slave trade. Now, generations later we are suffering for the sins of our fathers. The ACORNS don’t fall far from the tree.
wepeople on May 21, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Ahh yes, celebrate our diverse multiculturalism and the benefits that people of color & new cultures are bringing to this country.
What the left and much of the right are afraid to articulate is that our country and culture was founded primarily by western european, white, family oriented, judeochristian and entrepreneural values. Countries having values counter to these find us offensive and are envious that their values are not producing the goodies they crave. So we, stupidly, invite them here and they, eagerly, come to get on the dole and bring their filth, perverted beliefs, immorality and laziness with them.
The case can also be made that we also brought on much of our troubles today when we got muddled in the slave trade. Now, generations later we are suffering for the sins of our fathers. The ACORNS don’t fall far from the tree.
wepeople on May 21, 2009 at 9:00 AM
That about sums everything up. Like Rush told Greta last night, at least Cheney gets results…
Ah, why didn’t we think of that. Of course!
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Dd allah just say “thank god”?
Hope and Change…before you know it he’ll put a capital “G”
youngO on May 21, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Ahh yes, celebrate our diverse multiculturalism and the benefits that people of color & new cultures are bringing to this country.
What the left and much of the right are afraid to articulate is that our country and culture was founded primarily by western european, white, family oriented, judeochristian and entrepreneural values. Countries having values counter to these find us offensive and are envious that their values are not producing the goodies they crave. So we, stupidly, invite them here and they, eagerly, come to get on the dole and bring their filth, perverted beliefs, immorality and laziness with them.
The case can also be made that we also brought on much of our troubles today when we got muddled in the slave trade. Now, generations later we are suffering for the sins of our fathers. The ACORNS don’t fall far from the tree.
wepeople on May 21, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Ahh yes, celebrate our diverse multiculturalism and the benefits that people of color & new cultures are bringing to this country.
What the left and much of the right are afraid to articulate is that our country and culture was founded primarily by western european, white, family oriented, judeochristian and entrepreneural values. Countries having values counter to these find us offensive and are envious that their values are not producing the goodies they crave. So we, stupidly, invite them here and they, eagerly, come to get on the dole and bring their filth, perverted beliefs, immorality and laziness with them.
The case can also be made that we also brought on much of our troubles today when we got muddled in the slave trade. Now, generations later we are suffering for the sins of our fathers. The ACORNS don’t fall far from the tree.
wepeople on May 21, 2009 at 9:01 AM
We already have. The name of the place is Guantánamo.
Shy Guy on May 21, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Ahh yes, celebrate our diverse multiculturalism and the benefits that people of color & new cultures are bringing to this country.
What the left and much of the right are afraid to articulate is that our country and culture was founded primarily by western european, white, family oriented, judeochristian and entrepreneural values. Countries having values counter to these find us offensive and are envious that their values are not producing the goodies they crave. So we, stupidly, invite them here and they, eagerly, come to get on the dole and bring their filth, perverted beliefs, immorality and laziness with them.
The case can also be made that we also brought on much of our troubles today when we got muddled in the slave trade. Now, generations later we are suffering for the sins of our fathers. The ACORNS don’t fall far from the tree.
wepeople on May 21, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Don’t think they have not thought of that vulnerability.
Weren’t there a bunch of muslim cargo handlers arrested at JFK a few years back planning to blow up the Airport’s fuel line that ran through the entire city in the hopes that huge parts of NYC would blow up too? Do I remember that correctly? anyone?
elduende on May 21, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Wow
whoa
what is going on?!?!
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 9:03 AM
This risk is required under the rules of lawfare. Someday, trying to fight a war using the legal system will come back to haunt us.
BohicaTwentyTwo on May 21, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Oh they definitely have thought of it.
Yes they wanted to detonate that fuel line a mile or so out from the airport.
From what I understood though, due to the pipes’ construction, damage would have stayed local
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Oh…I dunno….
Here is a presbyterian minister and pro-lifer that murdered a doctor and his driver.
Here is a veteran and survialist that killed a lot of Americans.
Here is a white supremacist gun-nut and Glenn Beck admirer that killed policemen.
I bet there are still a lot of people in Oklahoma that wish Tim McVeigh had been “detained”.
strangelet on May 21, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Do I remember that correctly? anyone?
elduende on May 21, 2009 at 9:02 AM
You are correct, though sometimes I wonder how any of those savages manage to tie their own shoes; igniting a valved, compressed fuel line? Duh.
Bishop on May 21, 2009 at 9:05 AM
See, what you don’t understand is that the Islamists are part of a global effort. You don’t want to see that — you blind yourself to it.
How many THOUSANDS of attacks in the last 10 years have occurred because of Islamic operatives?
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 9:06 AM
strangelet on May 21, 2009 at 9:07 AM
You don’t understand, do you?
In fact, you refuse.
People like McVeigh don’t have any groups with actual legs or influence backing them up.
The Islamists in this country have CAIR, ISNA, et.al. backing them, supporting them, and influencing policy at the highest level of government.
This is why they are infinitely more dangerous. A handful of angry people you mentioned are no match; not suitable for a comparison.
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM
Yes, clearly everything you mentioned is involved in the NYC terrorist ring… It’s the Butterfly Effect… (that is the “theory” that keeps you up at night, right?)
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 9:10 AM
What a tragedy it would be if these four goofs were tossed into Gitmo after being “kidnapped” off the streets in an “illegal” covert operation even though they were just “innocent balloon vendors” trying to “make a decent living” taking care of their “little kids.”
Jonknee, where for art thou?
Bishop on May 21, 2009 at 9:10 AM
Bishop on May 21, 2009 at 9:10 AM
Alright. Sweet tea all over the monitor. You owe me, buddy.
kingsjester on May 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM
How many were against Americans that have resulted in the death toll of the Oklahoma City Federal building?
I’m not saying ignore islamic fundies targeting American targets.
We tend to catch them right, like the fundies that were targetting Camp Lejune and this bunch.
But that doesn’t diminish what army veteran Tim McVeigh did.
He killed a whole daycare full of preschoolers.
He killed 168 Americans.
Should he have been detained?
strangelet on May 21, 2009 at 9:13 AM
3 of them were jailhouse converts to Islam. Yeah lets put the detainees in our prisons. That is a great idea. Idiots.
sammypants on May 21, 2009 at 9:14 AM
Don’t know about last 10 years, but it’s 13,236 since 9/11/01.
flipflop on May 21, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Should he have been detained?
strangelet on May 21, 2009 at 9:13 AM
He was executed, Ap stalker.
kingsjester on May 21, 2009 at 9:15 AM
In the wake of Poplawski’s massacre, the Department of Homeland Security issued a report warning of the mounting threat of “right-wing extremism.”
Hey, any of you guys see the matching report about “left-wing extremists,” because I must have missed it. Then again perhaps there never was one which is why Nappy had to withdraw the report about the “right-wing.”
You would think they would have one for the left too, in the wake of the intended molotov cocktail attack during the GOP convention:
“”Court documents unsealed Wednesday said DePalma talked about ways to make the flammable liquid in his bombs stickier, so that it would adhere to the targets and burn longer and hotter. He told the source he wanted to attack police officers at the convention, saying, “I will light one of those pigs on fire,” the documents say.”"
Bishop on May 21, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Absolutely if there was any evidence he was going to do what he did.
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Strangelet is comparing apples to
orangesrocks.flipflop on May 21, 2009 at 9:16 AM
She does have rocks in the head.
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 9:17 AM
I thought so. Here’s hoping the patriots at the NYPD stay on the game.
Thank god for small favors. Not the brightest bulbs these muslims but then the carnage in Iraq has been caused by exactly this type.
elduende on May 21, 2009 at 9:17 AM
My point was (it’s early) is yes, if there was any evidence that he was going to do what he did. However, he paid the ultimnate penalty for his actions. The guys in Gitmo are still breathing. How many of them are killers? How many Terrorists are still out there?
kingsjester on May 21, 2009 at 9:19 AM
FIFY
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 9:19 AM
It doesn’t diminish anything, you’re right.
He should have been detained — you’re right.
But DHS is WRONG, dead wrong, for coming out with these ridiculous reports on “right-wing extremism” among army vets, as if it is some epidemic in America. Islamism in America is the real epidemic.
Of course counter-terrorism ops, domestically, should be broad with their work on things other than Islamism, but it is the primary threat, and it would behoove of the FBI, DHS, and other domestic agencies to focus on what is truly at the zenith of the threat nexus in the US — Islamism. Angry, white, military veterans should be completely secondary.
And I’d say the same thing about ELF, and other left-wing terror groups! They do not hold primacy over Islamism in the threat list, nor should they.
So to those on this thread mocking DHS, I’m with you.
blatantblue on May 21, 2009 at 9:19 AM
Hmmmm, these wannabe jihadists don’t fit Napalitano’s terror list profile. That particular demographic was not included.
Amazing.
FireBlogger on May 21, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Nope, I just object that you guys try to spin the DHS report as unjust persecution while slavering for increased surveillance of Islamic fundies.
I just happen to think that ALL proto-assassins and incipient bombers should be detained, whether they are army vet Tim McVeigh or ex-con James Cromitie.
Cognitive dissonance is endemic in the GOP.
strangelet on May 21, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Thank god for small favors. Not the brightest bulbs these muslims but then the carnage in Iraq has been caused by exactly this type.
elduende on May 21, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Which is why I thank the living stars each and every day that I live in America, a place which on the whole has honest, ethical and professional police officers. A huge, understated plus for our nation.
Bishop on May 21, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Blasted Amish….
sven10077 on May 21, 2009 at 9:20 AM
“No, no, look over here… er, uh, but… LOOK!”
+1
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Clearly Napoleon didn’t know they could drive their buggies to NYC.
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 9:21 AM
This was an obvious Jewish plot to place Islamic’s in a bad light…isn’t that how many liberals justify these things?
right2bright on May 21, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Same song, 100000th verse. The perps’ backgrounds, the plot, the left-wing denials. All of it.
Dark-Star on May 21, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Have you considered….the purpose of the DHS report has been executed, and that is why it was withdrawn?
That Americans have had their consciousness raised on right wing extremists, and the extremists have been served notice they are being monitored.
Jus’ sayin’.
strangelet on May 21, 2009 at 9:25 AM
First, I don’t recall specifically saying that we should increase surveillance of Islamic Fundies…
Second, there is a difference between an American citizen and a non-American citizen (as if the labels don’t point this out). So if your argument is with intercepting information from another country vs this country, well, there is something called the Constitution – it does form our laws for AMERICAN citizens.
I can agree with you on this, if there is sufficient evidence that an American citizen is a soon to be assassin, then they should probably be arrested and tried.
Upstater85 on May 21, 2009 at 9:26 AM
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