So where’s my conscience-clause exemption? Who do I need to see to opt out of support for Obama’s executive decision (I guess he decided it was in his pay grade) to force taxpayers to subsidize abortions for foreigners?

Please help me with this. Why do the libs support supressing the black population? I’ll tell you one thing. If it weren’t for this disparity, the libs would never lose an election.

marklmail on May 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM
I disagree. I think that though recent polls show that the majority are against abortion, I don’t think people vote based on this issue alone. And vice versa. There are lots of fiscal conservatives, pro-gun, pro-finish-wars-correctly, anti-socialists, pro-democracy voters that are not pro-life that voted for McCain.

shick on May 21, 2009 at 4:10 PM

I think what marklmail is saying is that given the skewed demographics of abortions in this country, the liberals have aborted away a healthy advantage they would have otherwise.

canditaylor68 on May 21, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Thank your for this comment. It was educational. I have four children with the oldest 13. He has been homeschooled from the beginning and we have to find a new eductation solution for him. This information has helped.

Please help me with this. Why do the libs support supressing the black population? I’ll tell you one thing. If it weren’t for this disparity, the libs would never lose an election.

marklmail on May 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM

I disagree. I think that though recent polls show that the majority are against abortion, I don’t think people vote based on this issue alone. And vice versa. There are lots of fiscal conservatives, pro-gun, pro-finish-wars-correctly, anti-socialists, pro-democracy voters that are not pro-life that voted for McCain.

Fisting? I doubt that term is uttered by a teacher in any classroom in America.

Grow Fins on May 21, 2009 at 2:05 PM

I didn’t disagree with you. But it was discussed in a school auditorium somewhere. Don’t remember where but I agree that it’s not the norm. Teaching birth-control in schools, however, is more prevalent.

Guess what, doll–God had apparently another plan for you, in case you couldn’t tell.

But the claim as it was originally made is clearly an exaggeration. This stuff happens rarely, if at all.

Grow Fins on May 21, 2009 at 1:57 PM

The author said “We object to schools teaching bizarre sex practices like fisting”. I don’t see a claim about the frequency of the practice. The author clearly says “for example”, and gives one particular example.

You ought to just admit you were wrong or confused, or whatever.

I get the impression we’re supposed to be grateful that he acknowledged prolifers exist and that he’s civil.

That’s exactly the impression I got from Teh Won of Arrogance! Thanks Laura; thought I was the only one.

folks who believe that comprehensive sex education is the best way to assure that young girls don’t unexpectedly find themselves at the abortion clinic

Hey Lisa Weasel Miller of Newsweek NewSpeak, if abortion ain’t a bad thing then why worry about young girls at abortion clinics?

Try, try to be somewhat intellectually consistent there “Newsweek.” Never mind; know you are totally incapable of that.

YMMV but if the purpose is to teach kids to not get pregnant, that can be accomplished in an hour. If the purpose is to teach kids to not get an SDT, that can be accomplished in another hour. (And I don’t mean an hour’s worth of abstinence teaching; I mean saying *this* is how you get pregnant, and *this* is how you get diseases and *these* things lessen but do not remove your risk.) But sex ed has evolved well beyond the purpose of protecting kids. That’s why we object.

Laura on May 21, 2009 at 2:42 PM

I agree with your points to the extent that I think sex education should be clinical and focused on preventing pregnancy and disease. Theoretically, it should require the students to take an infant or young child home for a week and respond to the child’s every need. They can then write a term paper on how a baby would change their social life and plans for the future.

I agree. It’s just such a non-issue to me, anyway. Sex is natural.

And it’s going to happen around puberty.

So let’s just get on with it, and knock off this ridiculous idea that men marry virgins.

Please.

AnninCA on May 21, 2009 at 2:17 PM

That’s not the point, Ann, and you know it.

The real point is that our POTUS is blithely telling good parents, and citizens concerned about the human rights violations we call “abortion”, to STFU – at a catholic university of all places.

Our POTUS needs to focus on his own kids. Not ours.

Our POTUS needs to stop wasting out tax dollars by sending overseas to fund abortions (genocide/population control)

Our POTUS needs to acknowledge why he voted to kill babies who survive abortions.

Our POTUS needs to stop pretending to be a moral authority on something he said was above his pay grade.

Sure, kids have sex. So what? It’s not a schools job to tell them not too (unless its on school property or at school-sponsored functions). But it’s NO ONE’S place to supplant parenting with sex education that amounts to “everyone’s doing it”, which is definitely what is going on.

If you’re gonna be laissex faire about teen sex, then keep your hands off of what values parents should be able to teach their children.

Laura

Thanks for the response.

fair enough. But the claim as it was originally made is clearly an exaggeration. This stuff happens rarely, if at all.

Grow Fins on May 21, 2009 at 1:57 PM

I think that the concern is that our society continues to advance to new levels of depravity. Curriculum in liberal hands continues to “push the boundaries” with horrendous results.

I personally believe that homosexuality is a perverse and deviant lifestyle, and should never be taught as an “acceptable lifestyle choice”. I only heard tiny mentions of it when I went to high school, and never in a positive light. Now I live in a quiet suburban area in Ohio… and they have CLUBS in high school that advocate homosexuality!

At the current rate of moral decline, I shudder to think what will be taught in a few decades…

Sex is natural.

So is farting, but parents (especially parents of ten year old boys) spend a good deal of time admonishing their children to control that particular bodily function and to reserve it for a particular time and place. No one seems to think that’s ridiculous, unreasonable, or impossible.

jeff_from_mpls on May 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM

I saw the /sarc tags, they were just hard to see.

But yeah, it’d be easier to see them if it weren’t so true.

This topic’s making me sick.

Grow Fins on May 21, 2009 at 12:42 PM

That’s your comment? That’s the thing you chose to focus on?

And it’s going to happen around puberty.

So let’s just get on with it, and knock off this ridiculous idea that men marry virgins.

Please.

Grow Fins on May 21, 2009 at 2009 at 1:41 PM

As you noted there is proof that it has been taught,but lets think another direction.As the mother of 4 kids(1 is now 20,the rest are teens) I have to share with you how hard it has been to instill sexual morals into a child that has been informed in school that its perfectly normal if he or she has certain sexual feelings to act on those feelings as long as they use protection.

I have taken advanced human sexuality courses in college recently where we discussed various paraphilias,and in doing so I discussed some of the behaviors with my adult children who have informed me that most of what I was asking about was covered either in health class amongst the material, or later on amongst the kids and their friends on the internet. Sixty-six percent of all adolescents have reported wanting to try certain explicit acts upon viewing those acts.

Its pretty safe to say that around 75 percent of all males in the United States learn their sexual behaviors from explicit materials. Having said that,interjecting the idea that this is okay, and normal. Instead of attempting to teach our children self control and getting away from the instant gratification society that we have become , we choose to tell our children that we have no trust in them,and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The very education we think is protecting our children merely serves as a vehical in which pressure is exerted on our children to be normal-and normal is (of course according to the teachers)-sexually active. We indoctrinate our children into sex,starting from the age of 5 on instead of empowering them in their own will and inner strength to put off until they are emotionally,physically, and financially capable of handling the consequences of a mature sexual relationship. This is the biggest contributor(IMO) to the abortion/teen pregnancy rates that exist in this country.

The US Census says that 12% of the US population is black.

But you claim that 32% of abortions are of black babies.

The only way that could happen is if abortionists disproportionately exterminate blacks, and that would be genetic cleansing which liberals are totally against.

jeff_from_mpls on May 21, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Your faulty logic doesn’t disprove statistics. You are right in suggesting the outrageous. The very originating purpose of Planned Parenthood was genetic cleansing. Look it up in it’s founder mother’s own words, Margaret Sanger.

shick on May 21, 2009 at 12:59 PM

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Please help me with this. Why do the libs support supressing the black population? I’ll tell you one thing. If it weren’t for this disparity, the libs would never lose an election.

gridlock2

Fisting? I doubt that term is uttered by a teacher in any classroom in America.

So I am asking any liberals out there, tell me where we can have common ground on partial birth abortion…and are you willing to forgo this practice if you deem it barbaric?

right2bright on May 21, 2009 at 1:59 PM

The states have room from the courts to legislatively restrict partial birth. Is it being put to a vote? It seems like it would have majority support in most states.

I guess it also has to do with what are your limits on “bizarre?

gridlock2 on May 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM

I think Grow Fins is specifically referring to things like fisting. I feel dirty even typing it.