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	<title>Comments on: California speaker: Voters find budgetary proposals &#8220;too complicated&#8221; or something</title>
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		<title>By: Liberty Pundit &#124; Oh, Those Stupid Voters That Hate High Taxes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty Pundit &#124; Oh, Those Stupid Voters That Hate High Taxes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AZfederalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZfederalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 04:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The idea that they voted down a tax hike because it’s “too complicated” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

  You know, I bet ol&#039; King George said very close to the same thing about those &quot;stupid American Colonists&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The idea that they voted down a tax hike because it’s “too complicated” </p></blockquote>
<p>  You know, I bet ol&#8217; King George said very close to the same thing about those &#8220;stupid American Colonists&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DSchoen</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSchoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“read the unbelievably condescending editorial the Sacramento Bee”

&lt;blockquote&gt;Lay off some state workers? Which ones? And how many? Remember, the entire state payroll is about $25 billion. You could lay off every last one of them every Highway Patrol officer, every prison guard, every state firefighter, every health inspector, every professor in the UC and CSU systems, every DMV employee and every nameless, faceless paper-shuffling bureaucrat and the state would only be barely in the black. But if you want to do that, go ahead. You&#039;re in charge, remember.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Nope, we don’t have to lay them all off.

Simply reduce their pay by 40%!  $10 billion right off the top and no one loses their job!

(it will still be 10% over the national norm)

As an added benefit this will put them under Obama’s “new” tax increases!  

BRILLIANT EA!!

In fact we can tell the Ca. gov workers their getting Obama’s “SPECIAL” tax cut!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“read the unbelievably condescending editorial the Sacramento Bee”</p>
<blockquote><p>Lay off some state workers? Which ones? And how many? Remember, the entire state payroll is about $25 billion. You could lay off every last one of them every Highway Patrol officer, every prison guard, every state firefighter, every health inspector, every professor in the UC and CSU systems, every DMV employee and every nameless, faceless paper-shuffling bureaucrat and the state would only be barely in the black. But if you want to do that, go ahead. You&#8217;re in charge, remember.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope, we don’t have to lay them all off.</p>
<p>Simply reduce their pay by 40%!  $10 billion right off the top and no one loses their job!</p>
<p>(it will still be 10% over the national norm)</p>
<p>As an added benefit this will put them under Obama’s “new” tax increases!  </p>
<p>BRILLIANT EA!!</p>
<p>In fact we can tell the Ca. gov workers their getting Obama’s “SPECIAL” tax cut!</p>
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		<title>By: DSchoen</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSchoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Speaker Karen Bass (D-Los Angeles):

“a very specific message”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes they were, and yes we did.

The &lt;strong&gt;VERY&lt;/strong&gt; specific message?

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;RESIGN!!!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Speaker Karen Bass (D-Los Angeles):</p>
<p>“a very specific message”
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<p>Yes they were, and yes we did.</p>
<p>The <strong>VERY</strong> specific message?</p>
<p><strong><em>RESIGN!!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Pyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On the contrary you stupid liberal moron. The California voters understood the measures on the ballot very well. That’s why they went thumbs down. Californians are sick and tired of being taxed to death for social engineering experiments, and paying for 10 million illegal aliens that are sucking the life blood out the state.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sounds good, only one problem, the voters are the ones who keep voting in tax and spend liberal democrats year after year after year. 

I live in California, and the people of this state have the government they deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On the contrary you stupid liberal moron. The California voters understood the measures on the ballot very well. That’s why they went thumbs down. Californians are sick and tired of being taxed to death for social engineering experiments, and paying for 10 million illegal aliens that are sucking the life blood out the state.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds good, only one problem, the voters are the ones who keep voting in tax and spend liberal democrats year after year after year. </p>
<p>I live in California, and the people of this state have the government they deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: oakpack</title>
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		<dc:creator>oakpack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help us solve our budget problems = Just give us your money.........idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help us solve our budget problems = Just give us your money&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: unclesmrgol</title>
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		<dc:creator>unclesmrgol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Exit quotation: “Good morning, California voters. Do you feel better, now that you’ve gotten that out of your system?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not even the Gubernator&#039;s claim that the State might have to sell things like the Golden Gate Bridge or the Coliseum were enough to sway the people of Fresno into voting for the Initiatives...

So, to answer your question in a nutshell -- Oh yes!  

Now, once our politicians get done with punishing us by eliminating or reducing &lt;b&gt;essential&lt;/b&gt; services such as police and fire, and they still can&#039;t budge us to vote yes on the California Stimulus, maybe they&#039;ll grow a few and work on a more equitable pay-as-you-go method of funding services.

I know, we&#039;re talking here about Democrats, but hope does spring eternal.  After all, it sometimes takes the village idiot to teach the rest of the Village of the Damned what needs to be done...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Exit quotation: “Good morning, California voters. Do you feel better, now that you’ve gotten that out of your system?”</p></blockquote>
<p>Not even the Gubernator&#8217;s claim that the State might have to sell things like the Golden Gate Bridge or the Coliseum were enough to sway the people of Fresno into voting for the Initiatives&#8230;</p>
<p>So, to answer your question in a nutshell &#8212; Oh yes!  </p>
<p>Now, once our politicians get done with punishing us by eliminating or reducing <b>essential</b> services such as police and fire, and they still can&#8217;t budge us to vote yes on the California Stimulus, maybe they&#8217;ll grow a few and work on a more equitable pay-as-you-go method of funding services.</p>
<p>I know, we&#8217;re talking here about Democrats, but hope does spring eternal.  After all, it sometimes takes the village idiot to teach the rest of the Village of the Damned what needs to be done&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SilverStar830</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilverStar830</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman, Karen Bass, is 200 pounds of two-faced crap stuffed in a hundred pound sack.

Just before the recent special election, this sack of crap gave out over $551,000 in PERSONAL STAFF pay raises while California was, and still is, laying off state workers and cutting the salaries of other state employees. While people are losing their homes and businesses are closing their doors for good, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/la-me-govt-payraise22-2009apr22,0,4197895.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;she&#039;s giving her personal staff from 5% to 19%+ pay raises.&lt;/a&gt;

Then, only after people raised a huge stink about the raises, she acknowledged her &#039;bad timing&#039; and cancelled the raises. &lt;strong&gt;But&lt;/strong&gt;, this reprobate also went further and also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-govt-payraise23-2009apr23,0,4194428.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;laid blame on &quot;people who oppose public education&quot; for having to take back the raises.&lt;/a&gt;

...just another typical piece of crap politician blaming the people for not doing the elected political officials job of governing? Yes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman, Karen Bass, is 200 pounds of two-faced crap stuffed in a hundred pound sack.</p>
<p>Just before the recent special election, this sack of crap gave out over $551,000 in PERSONAL STAFF pay raises while California was, and still is, laying off state workers and cutting the salaries of other state employees. While people are losing their homes and businesses are closing their doors for good, <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/la-me-govt-payraise22-2009apr22,0,4197895.story" rel="nofollow">she&#8217;s giving her personal staff from 5% to 19%+ pay raises.</a></p>
<p>Then, only after people raised a huge stink about the raises, she acknowledged her &#8216;bad timing&#8217; and cancelled the raises. <strong>But</strong>, this reprobate also went further and also <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-govt-payraise23-2009apr23,0,4194428.story" rel="nofollow">laid blame on &#8220;people who oppose public education&#8221; for having to take back the raises.</a></p>
<p>&#8230;just another typical piece of crap politician blaming the people for not doing the elected political officials job of governing? Yes!</p>
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		<title>By: California voters soundly reject tax and spend policies, the media misses the point! &#171; The Daley Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator>California voters soundly reject tax and spend policies, the media misses the point! &#171; The Daley Gator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update! The Democrat response to the voters? You are too stupid to understand! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Snidely Whiplash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snidely Whiplash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been giving the budget mess here in California a lot of thought. There needs to be a spending formula based on a rolling average of the state GDP (not sure if there is really a term for this on a state level, but basically the state version of a national GDP) over a 3 year or 5 year period. More importantly, that spending level needs to control government employee pay, as well as social programs, etc. So in down years, government employees would have to take a pay cut, and in up years they would get pay raises.

This would incentivize government employees, including the legislature, to maximize GDP, not tax revenue. In order to do this the state would need to be more business friendly than it currently is, reducing taxes and red tape for businesses.

You&#039;d need to put some of the excess in good years aside in a special rainy-day fund for the down years since you would be using a rolling average. That is a good idea anyway, but something very difficult for any politician to do (not spend every tax dollar they can get their hands on).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been giving the budget mess here in California a lot of thought. There needs to be a spending formula based on a rolling average of the state GDP (not sure if there is really a term for this on a state level, but basically the state version of a national GDP) over a 3 year or 5 year period. More importantly, that spending level needs to control government employee pay, as well as social programs, etc. So in down years, government employees would have to take a pay cut, and in up years they would get pay raises.</p>
<p>This would incentivize government employees, including the legislature, to maximize GDP, not tax revenue. In order to do this the state would need to be more business friendly than it currently is, reducing taxes and red tape for businesses.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d need to put some of the excess in good years aside in a special rainy-day fund for the down years since you would be using a rolling average. That is a good idea anyway, but something very difficult for any politician to do (not spend every tax dollar they can get their hands on).</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Budvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Budvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that most people here won&#039;t notice or care about the cuts. 

For example, as far as increased class size goes a motivated student could learn in a class of 50.  Most of the schlubs that go to HS here couldn&#039;t learn even if they were in a class of 5 students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that most people here won&#8217;t notice or care about the cuts. </p>
<p>For example, as far as increased class size goes a motivated student could learn in a class of 50.  Most of the schlubs that go to HS here couldn&#8217;t learn even if they were in a class of 5 students.</p>
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		<title>By: ColdWarrior57</title>
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		<dc:creator>ColdWarrior57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds alot like the song from Best little whore house in Texas.

&quot;I Dance a little side step&quot;.

SOS in Washington DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds alot like the song from Best little whore house in Texas.</p>
<p>&#8220;I Dance a little side step&#8221;.</p>
<p>SOS in Washington DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Big John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 22:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it was sheer stupidity coming out of her mouth, she said it better than TOTUS could. She actually looked like she knew what she was saying and not simply reading it mindlessly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it was sheer stupidity coming out of her mouth, she said it better than TOTUS could. She actually looked like she knew what she was saying and not simply reading it mindlessly.</p>
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		<title>By: jarodea</title>
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		<dc:creator>jarodea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is one difference (of many) between myself and Liberals.  They think most voters are idiots when they don&#039;t vote left, I think most voters are idiots regardless of which way they vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is one difference (of many) between myself and Liberals.  They think most voters are idiots when they don&#8217;t vote left, I think most voters are idiots regardless of which way they vote.</p>
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		<title>By: eaglewingz08</title>
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		<dc:creator>eaglewingz08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the socialists have telegraphed their next move. Since the people are &#039;too fatigued&#039; to vote the way the libtards want them to vote on referenda, look for the Cali legislature to heal the populace by restricting what referenda can be brought to a popular vote. No more agita in the political class by those unwashed masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the socialists have telegraphed their next move. Since the people are &#8216;too fatigued&#8217; to vote the way the libtards want them to vote on referenda, look for the Cali legislature to heal the populace by restricting what referenda can be brought to a popular vote. No more agita in the political class by those unwashed masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Political Thought &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Those Stupid California Voters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense Political Thought &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Those Stupid California Voters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just don&#8217;t understand. Haven&#8217;t we all been told that outspending your opponent 10 to 1 ensures victory, which was why we needed to take the money out of politics at the national [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just don&#8217;t understand. Haven&#8217;t we all been told that outspending your opponent 10 to 1 ensures victory, which was why we needed to take the money out of politics at the national [...]</p>
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		<title>By: capejasmine</title>
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		<dc:creator>capejasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only in California, but all across this nation, it&#039;s time to clean house. 

Senator Specter on tv yesterday, covering for Pelosi, also said, the CIA lies.  Proving once again, that getting re-elected, is far more important, to these bloated, incumbents. Time to let them know, that they are NOT nearly as important to us, as they are in their own minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only in California, but all across this nation, it&#8217;s time to clean house. </p>
<p>Senator Specter on tv yesterday, covering for Pelosi, also said, the CIA lies.  Proving once again, that getting re-elected, is far more important, to these bloated, incumbents. Time to let them know, that they are NOT nearly as important to us, as they are in their own minds.</p>
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		<title>By: byteshredder</title>
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		<dc:creator>byteshredder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;California speaker: Voters find budgetary proposals “too complicated” or something&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;
ARE YOU FOOLS PAYING ATTENTION???&lt;/strong&gt;


On the contrary you stupid liberal moron.  The California voters understood the measures on the ballot very well. That&#039;s why they went thumbs down. Californians are sick and tired of being taxed to death for social engineering experiments, and paying for 10 million illegal aliens that are sucking the life blood out the state. When you fools figure that one out, then there may be some progress.  If you can&#039;t, then the next voter initiative will be cutting you legislatures back to just a few days a month in Sacramento.
&lt;strong&gt;
ARE YOU FOOLS PAYING ATTENTION???&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>California speaker: Voters find budgetary proposals “too complicated” or something</p></blockquote>
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ARE YOU FOOLS PAYING ATTENTION???</strong></p>
<p>On the contrary you stupid liberal moron.  The California voters understood the measures on the ballot very well. That&#8217;s why they went thumbs down. Californians are sick and tired of being taxed to death for social engineering experiments, and paying for 10 million illegal aliens that are sucking the life blood out the state. When you fools figure that one out, then there may be some progress.  If you can&#8217;t, then the next voter initiative will be cutting you legislatures back to just a few days a month in Sacramento.<br />
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		<title>By: seven</title>
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		<dc:creator>seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russia had the solution.  They dis allowed voting because people couldn&#039;t know what was best for them.  Central Planning knew better than the people.  
People have voted in politicians that are confused by complexities.  too complicated.  Spend less than you take in and lower taxes is too complicated for them.

Oh then she does the &quot;we have to act quickly&quot; line.  

that translates to if we don&#039;t act quickly, if we think about it, it may start to seem like a stupid move.  so we must act quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia had the solution.  They dis allowed voting because people couldn&#8217;t know what was best for them.  Central Planning knew better than the people.<br />
People have voted in politicians that are confused by complexities.  too complicated.  Spend less than you take in and lower taxes is too complicated for them.</p>
<p>Oh then she does the &#8220;we have to act quickly&#8221; line.  </p>
<p>that translates to if we don&#8217;t act quickly, if we think about it, it may start to seem like a stupid move.  so we must act quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Schell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Schell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bass believes she is smart because she lives in the Sacto bubble and only talks to people who agree with her.  Dumber than dirt in any other situation, mean about it, too.

Caroline Kennedy without the &quot;y&#039;knows&quot;, and proud of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bass believes she is smart because she lives in the Sacto bubble and only talks to people who agree with her.  Dumber than dirt in any other situation, mean about it, too.</p>
<p>Caroline Kennedy without the &#8220;y&#8217;knows&#8221;, and proud of it.</p>
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		<title>By: calbear</title>
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		<dc:creator>calbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s not that voters are weary of taxing and spending, it’s that they’re weary of having to think real hard and trudge on down to the polling place every few months or so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or, to put the blame where it belongs, &quot;Our well-funded campaign didn&#039;t sell it properly.&quot;  You might disagree with that, but it&#039;s basically what she&#039;s saying.

She&#039;s right about having too many special elections, though.  I&#039;ve gone to the polls five times in the last 18 months, three times due to special elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s not that voters are weary of taxing and spending, it’s that they’re weary of having to think real hard and trudge on down to the polling place every few months or so.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, to put the blame where it belongs, &#8220;Our well-funded campaign didn&#8217;t sell it properly.&#8221;  You might disagree with that, but it&#8217;s basically what she&#8217;s saying.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s right about having too many special elections, though.  I&#8217;ve gone to the polls five times in the last 18 months, three times due to special elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bee is circling the drain too, and has held half its readership in abject contempt for decades. Very few people will mourn its imminent collapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bee is circling the drain too, and has held half its readership in abject contempt for decades. Very few people will mourn its imminent collapse.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ugly American</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ugly American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They did this same spin on Prop 8, basically saying that religious blacks were too stupid to properly decipher our complicated ballot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They did this same spin on Prop 8, basically saying that religious blacks were too stupid to properly decipher our complicated ballot.</p>
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		<title>By: Geministorm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geministorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Voters are stupid&quot; - Joe Liberal

Why is this news again?

I think this is the basis for why liberals want a socialized country; free markets and individual liberty can&#039;t be trusted in the hands of buffoons. Hell, didn&#039;t Prop 8 teach anyone anything? If democracy won&#039;t give them the result they want, they&#039;ll manipulate the courts to do it for them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Voters are stupid&#8221; &#8211; Joe Liberal</p>
<p>Why is this news again?</p>
<p>I think this is the basis for why liberals want a socialized country; free markets and individual liberty can&#8217;t be trusted in the hands of buffoons. Hell, didn&#8217;t Prop 8 teach anyone anything? If democracy won&#8217;t give them the result they want, they&#8217;ll manipulate the courts to do it for them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 2Tru2Tru</title>
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		<dc:creator>2Tru2Tru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After months of having to watch fake firemen, with smudged theatrical soot rubbed on their forehead, I became much less confused. By election date, I was filled with an almost zen like clarity and peace. I didn&#039;t even have to talk to groups of 30, 300 or congregations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After months of having to watch fake firemen, with smudged theatrical soot rubbed on their forehead, I became much less confused. By election date, I was filled with an almost zen like clarity and peace. I didn&#8217;t even have to talk to groups of 30, 300 or congregations.</p>
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