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California speaker: Voters find budgetary proposals “too complicated” or something

posted at 9:45 am on May 21, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Via Gateway Pundit. And so the progressive spin on Tuesday’s crash-and-burn emerges: It’s not that voters are weary of taxing and spending, it’s that they’re weary of having to think real hard and trudge on down to the polling place every few months or so. Remember, supporters of the budget initiatives outspent opponents 10 to 1 and had Schwarzenegger’s full backing; even low-information voters who don’t regularly follow the news surely know that the state’s circling the drain financially, thanks to the national coverage California’s problems have gotten. The idea that they voted down a tax hike because it’s “too complicated” rather than because they simply don’t want new taxes is laughable, especially considering that the reason they’re required to ratify new tax hikes in the first place was an anti-tax measure passed by California voters in 1978. The same people who demanded the right to reject tax increases are supposedly “fatigued” by having to vote on them? Not likely.

Dumping on voters is par for the course among California’s political/media class, though. If you haven’t seen it yet, go read the unbelievably condescending editorial the Sacramento Bee tried to flush down the memory hole before Doug Ross rescued it. Exit quotation: “Good morning, California voters. Do you feel better, now that you’ve gotten that out of your system?”


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“Voters are stupid” – Joe Liberal

Why is this news again?

I think this is the basis for why liberals want a socialized country; free markets and individual liberty can’t be trusted in the hands of buffoons. Hell, didn’t Prop 8 teach anyone anything? If democracy won’t give them the result they want, they’ll manipulate the courts to do it for them…

Geministorm on May 21, 2009 at 1:39 PM

They did this same spin on Prop 8, basically saying that religious blacks were too stupid to properly decipher our complicated ballot.

The Ugly American on May 21, 2009 at 1:50 PM

The Bee is circling the drain too, and has held half its readership in abject contempt for decades. Very few people will mourn its imminent collapse.

Mike D. on May 21, 2009 at 2:26 PM

It’s not that voters are weary of taxing and spending, it’s that they’re weary of having to think real hard and trudge on down to the polling place every few months or so.

Or, to put the blame where it belongs, “Our well-funded campaign didn’t sell it properly.” You might disagree with that, but it’s basically what she’s saying.

She’s right about having too many special elections, though. I’ve gone to the polls five times in the last 18 months, three times due to special elections.

calbear on May 21, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Bass believes she is smart because she lives in the Sacto bubble and only talks to people who agree with her. Dumber than dirt in any other situation, mean about it, too.

Caroline Kennedy without the “y’knows”, and proud of it.

Harry Schell on May 21, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Russia had the solution. They dis allowed voting because people couldn’t know what was best for them. Central Planning knew better than the people.
People have voted in politicians that are confused by complexities. too complicated. Spend less than you take in and lower taxes is too complicated for them.

Oh then she does the “we have to act quickly” line.

that translates to if we don’t act quickly, if we think about it, it may start to seem like a stupid move. so we must act quickly.

seven on May 21, 2009 at 3:21 PM

California speaker: Voters find budgetary proposals “too complicated” or something


ARE YOU FOOLS PAYING ATTENTION???

On the contrary you stupid liberal moron. The California voters understood the measures on the ballot very well. That’s why they went thumbs down. Californians are sick and tired of being taxed to death for social engineering experiments, and paying for 10 million illegal aliens that are sucking the life blood out the state. When you fools figure that one out, then there may be some progress. If you can’t, then the next voter initiative will be cutting you legislatures back to just a few days a month in Sacramento.

ARE YOU FOOLS PAYING ATTENTION???

byteshredder on May 21, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Not only in California, but all across this nation, it’s time to clean house.

Senator Specter on tv yesterday, covering for Pelosi, also said, the CIA lies. Proving once again, that getting re-elected, is far more important, to these bloated, incumbents. Time to let them know, that they are NOT nearly as important to us, as they are in their own minds.

capejasmine on May 21, 2009 at 3:52 PM

So the socialists have telegraphed their next move. Since the people are ‘too fatigued’ to vote the way the libtards want them to vote on referenda, look for the Cali legislature to heal the populace by restricting what referenda can be brought to a popular vote. No more agita in the political class by those unwashed masses.

eaglewingz08 on May 21, 2009 at 4:56 PM

That is one difference (of many) between myself and Liberals. They think most voters are idiots when they don’t vote left, I think most voters are idiots regardless of which way they vote.

jarodea on May 21, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Although it was sheer stupidity coming out of her mouth, she said it better than TOTUS could. She actually looked like she knew what she was saying and not simply reading it mindlessly.

Big John on May 21, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Sounds alot like the song from Best little whore house in Texas.

“I Dance a little side step”.

SOS in Washington DC.

ColdWarrior57 on May 21, 2009 at 6:48 PM

My guess is that most people here won’t notice or care about the cuts.

For example, as far as increased class size goes a motivated student could learn in a class of 50. Most of the schlubs that go to HS here couldn’t learn even if they were in a class of 5 students.

Lou Budvis on May 21, 2009 at 7:00 PM

I’ve been giving the budget mess here in California a lot of thought. There needs to be a spending formula based on a rolling average of the state GDP (not sure if there is really a term for this on a state level, but basically the state version of a national GDP) over a 3 year or 5 year period. More importantly, that spending level needs to control government employee pay, as well as social programs, etc. So in down years, government employees would have to take a pay cut, and in up years they would get pay raises.

This would incentivize government employees, including the legislature, to maximize GDP, not tax revenue. In order to do this the state would need to be more business friendly than it currently is, reducing taxes and red tape for businesses.

You’d need to put some of the excess in good years aside in a special rainy-day fund for the down years since you would be using a rolling average. That is a good idea anyway, but something very difficult for any politician to do (not spend every tax dollar they can get their hands on).

Snidely Whiplash on May 21, 2009 at 8:11 PM

This woman, Karen Bass, is 200 pounds of two-faced crap stuffed in a hundred pound sack.

Just before the recent special election, this sack of crap gave out over $551,000 in PERSONAL STAFF pay raises while California was, and still is, laying off state workers and cutting the salaries of other state employees. While people are losing their homes and businesses are closing their doors for good, she’s giving her personal staff from 5% to 19%+ pay raises.

Then, only after people raised a huge stink about the raises, she acknowledged her ‘bad timing’ and cancelled the raises. But, this reprobate also went further and also laid blame on “people who oppose public education” for having to take back the raises.

…just another typical piece of crap politician blaming the people for not doing the elected political officials job of governing? Yes!

SilverStar830 on May 21, 2009 at 9:42 PM

Exit quotation: “Good morning, California voters. Do you feel better, now that you’ve gotten that out of your system?”

Not even the Gubernator’s claim that the State might have to sell things like the Golden Gate Bridge or the Coliseum were enough to sway the people of Fresno into voting for the Initiatives…

So, to answer your question in a nutshell — Oh yes!

Now, once our politicians get done with punishing us by eliminating or reducing essential services such as police and fire, and they still can’t budge us to vote yes on the California Stimulus, maybe they’ll grow a few and work on a more equitable pay-as-you-go method of funding services.

I know, we’re talking here about Democrats, but hope does spring eternal. After all, it sometimes takes the village idiot to teach the rest of the Village of the Damned what needs to be done…

unclesmrgol on May 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Help us solve our budget problems = Just give us your money………idiots.

oakpack on May 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM

On the contrary you stupid liberal moron. The California voters understood the measures on the ballot very well. That’s why they went thumbs down. Californians are sick and tired of being taxed to death for social engineering experiments, and paying for 10 million illegal aliens that are sucking the life blood out the state.

Sounds good, only one problem, the voters are the ones who keep voting in tax and spend liberal democrats year after year after year.

I live in California, and the people of this state have the government they deserve.

Joe Pyne on May 21, 2009 at 11:09 PM

Speaker Karen Bass (D-Los Angeles):

“a very specific message”

Yes they were, and yes we did.

The VERY specific message?

RESIGN!!!

DSchoen on May 21, 2009 at 11:41 PM

“read the unbelievably condescending editorial the Sacramento Bee”

Lay off some state workers? Which ones? And how many? Remember, the entire state payroll is about $25 billion. You could lay off every last one of them every Highway Patrol officer, every prison guard, every state firefighter, every health inspector, every professor in the UC and CSU systems, every DMV employee and every nameless, faceless paper-shuffling bureaucrat and the state would only be barely in the black. But if you want to do that, go ahead. You’re in charge, remember.

Nope, we don’t have to lay them all off.

Simply reduce their pay by 40%! $10 billion right off the top and no one loses their job!

(it will still be 10% over the national norm)

As an added benefit this will put them under Obama’s “new” tax increases!

BRILLIANT EA!!

In fact we can tell the Ca. gov workers their getting Obama’s “SPECIAL” tax cut!

DSchoen on May 21, 2009 at 11:54 PM

The idea that they voted down a tax hike because it’s “too complicated”

You know, I bet ol’ King George said very close to the same thing about those “stupid American Colonists”

AZfederalist on May 22, 2009 at 12:56 AM

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